RnF

[Vandy]

Raid Scene
It continues to be an aggravating realization among CSR staff that 10% of the server population causes 90% of the problems. We are all for competition, but it needs to be fair competition. We are also all here for the same thing, to experience classic Everquest. The same guild monopolizing raid content for 2 years that they might not even need anymore is ridiculous, just to block other guilds from the chance of gearing up to take on the same end game content.

I was thinking to myself the other day and I came to ask myself.. Are we providing this server to give people the arena to compete to such bitter extremes that it has resorted to taking every absolute measure to be victorious, or are we here to provide a classic Everquest experience for everyone to enjoy?

A lot of you make fun of it in your own terms, but it really does come down to fighting over very old content.

Either way, we're tired of the constant bickering, the training, the ninja looting, and all the other bullshit that's going on. So here's what we're going to do.

Starting today and then evaluated when Velious is released the CSR staff will be keeping track of how the raid guilds are treating eachother. If we do not see a significant improvement in the behavior of the raiding guilds and how they treat eachother, Velious will be released without raid content. To be clear, we want an enjoyable raid scene for everyone, not just one or two guilds. This means working together to figure out a compromise when racing for mobs, and working with smaller guilds to let them have a chance at mobs you don't absolutely need for gearing main characters.

Don't think that this means you can continue shitting on each other and just not petition, the staff will still be watching.


I would like to request the complete removal of RnF. It contributes just as much to the shit show. If people want to rant and flame let them do it on their guild forums.

[Itap]

People can't rant in RnF now.

Sorry, some people are pissed that TMO has not only monopolized content for the past 2 years, but have been duping platinum and RMTing as well

[Friday]

This has got to be the worst post I have ever read on these forums.

[Messianic]

This is really shortsighted.

Removal of RnF creates headaches for moderators because RnF is a convenient sequester for BS most people don't care to read, and RnF spills into the other forums if it isn't allowed to happen in a designated place.

Sorry, RnF is practical and makes sense. Banning alcohol didn't prevent people from drinking themselves stupid; just guaranteed that violent criminals made money from selling it instead of honest people.

[Itap]

This is really shortsighted.

Removal of RnF creates headaches for moderators because RnF is a convenient sequester for BS most people don't care to read, and RnF spills into the other forums if it isn't allowed to happen in a designated place.

Sorry, RnF is practical and makes sense. Banning alcohol didn't prevent people from drinking themselves stupid; just guaranteed that violent criminals made money from selling it instead of honest people.

So much win in this post

[Vandy]

It is a post in response to what Rogean has asked us to do as a community to improve the general atmosphere of the server. Has nothing to do with TMO at all. We have to work to improve things z d RnF is festering cesspool. That is my Opinion and you are entitled to your vote/opinion as well.

[Ravager]

This is really shortsighted.

Removal of RnF creates headaches for moderators because RnF is a convenient sequester for BS most people don't care to read, and RnF spills into the other forums if it isn't allowed to happen in a designated place.

Sorry, RnF is practical and makes sense. Banning alcohol didn't prevent people from drinking themselves stupid; just guaranteed that violent criminals made money from selling it instead of honest people.

RnF has turned into an excuse to not moderate conversations and flaming a thread has become a tactic to sweep worthwhile conversations under the rug to maintain the status quo.

[Messianic]

RnF has turned into an excuse to not moderate conversations and flaming a thread has become a tactic to sweep worthwhile conversations under the rug to maintain the status quo.

Think of RnF as a dumpster. Why do you give a damn if there are feces in the dumpster instead of normal garbage?

[JerSar]

RnF has turned into an excuse to not moderate conversations and flaming a thread has become a tactic to sweep worthwhile conversations under the rug to maintain the status quo.

There are many people who post threads on these forums. There are 530 people logged into this website this second.

It's impracticable to expect that a handful of moderators would take their time to comb through all posts if RnF was removed.

RnF...

Nevermind.

[Ravager]

Think of RnF as a dumpster. Why do you give a damn if there are feces in the dumpster instead of normal garbage?

Think of a thread as a party. If one jerk ruins the party, do you throw everyone out on the street, or just the guy causing problems?

[Ravager]

There are many people who post threads on these forums. There are 530 people logged into this website this second.

It's impracticable to expect that a handful of moderators would take their time to comb through all posts if RnF was removed.

RnF...

Nevermind.

That's what flags are for.

[Barkingturtle]

RnF is classic.

[indiscriminate_hater]

RnF makes me feel better about my life

[Swish]

Would trade RnF for forum tags... think about it... :)

[Messianic]

Think of a thread as a party. If one jerk ruins the party, do you throw everyone out on the street, or just the guy causing problems?

RnF isn't a party. Your analogy sucks.

It's a bunch of homeless guys throwing shit at each other in a dumpster.

[Ravager]

RnF isn't a party. Your analogy sucks.

It's a bunch of homeless guys throwing shit at each other in a dumpster.

Plenty of good threads are forced into RnF because RnF has been made as an excuse not to moderate Server Chat. That's the point. Besides, there's plenty of other places on the internet to sling shit if that's really all you want to do. Creating a better gaming atmosphere seems to be Rogeans goal, and the arguement is that RnF is a detriment to that end.

[JerSar]

Plenty of good threads are forced into RnF because RnF has been made as an excuse not to moderate Server Chat. That's the point. Besides, there's plenty of other places on the internet to sling shit if that's really all you want to do. Creating a better gaming atmosphere seems to be Rogeans goal, and the arguement is that RnF is a detriment to that end.

Rather than remove RnF, why not just enforce a suspension or forum ban law to those who create RnF posts outside of RnF, removing their posts?

[Messianic]

Plenty of good threads are forced into RnF because RnF has been made as an excuse not to moderate Server Chat.

Ah, but that's not the point being made here. If moderation is the problem, that can be addressed. That's not the same thing as arguing "RnF is bad, eliminate RnF"

Besides, there's plenty of other places on the internet to sling shit if that's really all you want to do. Creating a better gaming atmosphere seems to be Rogeans goal, and the arguement is that RnF is a detriment to that end.

If the moderators are already doing a crappy job (supposedly) at moderating server chat, how well do you think they'll moderate it when RnF closes down and there's no place for the garbage?

Sorry, those of us who have been here for a while know it's better to have it than not. Ignore it and you're better off. If moderators are too quick to move stuff to RnF, that needs to be dealt with separately from "remove RnF".