All Devs would need to do is implement a trial Variance.

[Stasis01]

Would answer all speculation.

[Stasis01]

If population/competition/competing guilds taking mobs happens - can we agree it's a success?

[Holey]

If population/competition/competing guilds taking mobs happens - can we agree it's a FAILURE?

yes it would be a failure.

[Stasis01]

http://whokilledit.com/

Neck beards get to neckbeard, and other guilds have a chance to compete and have fun also - this is called bringing balance to red99.

[Holey]

http://whokilledit.com/

Neck beards get to neckbeard, and other guilds have a chance to compete and have fun also - this is called bringing balance to red99.

how is it balance when your gonna make it even worse for yall? lmfao.

[Sektor]

not classic

[Stasis01]

how is it balance when your gonna make it even worse for yall? lmfao.

For me personally? I see no one competing because they can't beat Nihi heads up zerg vs zerg, as has been forever.

How can it be worse than no one even trying to compete? Play better won't create players to recruit.

And most of the new players on the server with a Nihilum mentality will just go there as it's open recruitment.

If there's only one option for end-game, people will either join it or quit, and the box will remain the same.

[Nizzarr]

http://whokilledit.com/

Neck beards get to neckbeard, and other guilds have a chance to compete and have fun also - this is called bringing balance to red99.

This is called "My name is stasis and will not be tracking any target for my friends, I am an egoist bastard. My guild will not track as well but we'll magically get mobs from the best organized guild the server has seen."

You stated many times the only reason you want variance is to "fuck nihilum over".

Start a guild of your own Stasis! Oh wait, you're only in it for yourself.

[Stasis01]

Take Gream for example, a player from blue who came specifically for uncontested no variance pixels - was apped to Nihilum at level 45 in scraps.

The people with the mentality to control content will just join them.

The problem is people that have the mentality to shake things up, and compete against the #1 have no avenue to do it - hence stagnant, boring, low pop.

[Stasis01]

Where did I state that I want to fuck Nihilum over? I like most of Nihilum on a personal level, this is purely from a project point of view.

And like blue - I do expect you to get most raid mobs Nizz, I just wish people would have a chance to compete - hope is a powerful thing, and a few successful raid targets and people may just have fun playing here.

[Retti_]

Stasis lost botb to bluebies with shields

Got mad

Cries on forums

[Nizzarr]

If you are coming from blue and you have a decent reputation, or played with me in the past, you have a decent chance of getting a pixel package and powerlevel.

whats your point stasis? I know thats something you cant comprehend, you only think about yourself.

[Stasis01]

That was Tyrionn aka Knuckle who lost to Nizz with a shield on, although I probably would have too - boulders are powerful !

If you think I'm bitter that a barbarian beat me 1v1 without jboots and boulders enabled - look at all the top notch rogues who lost. Salem, Croup(Tarwine), Johnny who was played by Thrilla? Knuckle etc etc, the advantage was just too big - and I'm good with it.

I received a lot of msgs laughing that Nizz wouldn't even joust me and just ran away to boulderquest, that's a complement in itself for me - he straight up abused it instead of fighting because he knew I had a chance =)

[HippoNipple]

The zerg is logging on for their 3 minutes of forumquesting to slay the thread. DKP will be handed out.

[Stasis01]

My only point was with the low population, and fact that people with the mentality to be hardcore and control content can just join Nihi - the problem is the rule set is way too unbalanced for the other type of player who wants to try to compete and shake things up as the underdog

Things are too slanted for the hardcores, and it cripples population growth and player retention.

The play better argument just doesn't work here, and it would benefit the server overall with a ruleset that allows others to compete.

[Retti_]

Not bitter. Has pre written excuse on desktop.

[Stasis01]

If I brought it up it would be an excuse, I am just replying to your insult.

[Stasis01]

Elderan said the day before "whatever you do, don't joust Stasis" giving tips to Nizzar lol, I am comfortable with my skills pal, someday's I'm better than others though.

I expected Nizzar to stick me in the botb, maybe I should have tried to stick him - if we rematched I'd try to duelist and stick, but that won't happen so life will go on !

[Nirgon]

Remember when I made fun of everyone who didn't roll a barb rogue

Loved watching the matches and the feelings of validation

[Retti_]

If I brought it up it would be an excuse, I am just replying to your insult.

http://www.troll.me/images/good-guy-tyson/interesting-tell-me-more-.jpg

[Stasis01]

I had fun playing with Keto, best memories were the beginning of the box.

Botb was barbarian best of the best - and Gream won it.

Only person that should be embarassed is Nizzar for throwing away #1 by trying to joust Kabanazy instead of just bouldering him, eating a 1k+ BS and dropping 45% to 0.

That was the only choke moment I saw. Gream was lucky with poisons though.

[HippoNipple]

Remember when I made fun of everyone who didn't roll a barb rogue

Loved watching the matches and the feelings of validation

Just like all the dwarfs laugh at the barbarians every time they barrel roll through Norrath.

[lite]

Take Gream for example, a player from blue who came specifically for uncontested no variance pixels - was apped to Nihilum at level 45 in scraps.

i remember seeing him soloing in OT, lol. From leather tunic to VP gear.... People that jump immidiately to easy mode are so pathetic. Decorate a character asap = accomplished.

[Retti_]

Says sky dkp and royals farmer lite

Makes all of ur posts laughable

[HippoNipple]

i remember seeing him soloing in OT, lol. From leather tunic to VP gear.... People that jump immidiately to easy mode are so pathetic. Decorate a character asap = accomplished.

It is reasons like this that there is such a lash back on variance. It will destroy what some people enjoy so much about our server, but for the greater good of the server health it needs to be done.

I understand there are going to be players that want to play casually and get the best gear in game with a couple hours of work a week. If you are a pure PvE player that doesn't want to compete it is the perfect environment. Creating a social environment with competition, reputation and dynamic end game isn't the focus of everyone. Some people get caught up in nice items and just want to see their character with the shiniest of pixels. It isn't what Everquest was supposed to be but they don't have time to experience Everquest in a legit way so they rely on a crutch. The thought of playing without that crutch can be scary for players like Gream or Retti. They have leaned on the hard work of a couple in their guild and the server rules favoring zergs for so long now, and they do not want to be reliable for putting in as much effort as others to get their pixels.

Elderman is another example of a player that said if he is put on an even playing field with other players and has to compete for content he will quit the game. He wants all end game to be wound up in 3 hours a week. Being treated with entitlements breads laziness and often makes a person very defensive, and even offensive, when their toxic lifestyle is threatened. They are like a cornered dog snarling, ready to bite, to save their easy pixels at the cost of this games last resort for a legit PvP server.

It is a shame everyone can't have what they want but as a developer and fan of Everquest it is a no-brainer to cater to those that want competition and enjoy the spirit of what Everquest PvP was meant to be.

[Dullah]

No evidence suggests variance would in any way benefit the server.

Variance is by definition the antithesis of PvP.

[lite]

No evidence suggests variance would in any way benefit the server.

Variance is by definition the antithesis of PvP.

for sure, more of the same is a great alternative. it's played out, and continue to play out amazingly.

[lite]

But yeah as Stasis suggested with this thread, and as I reminded you guys, when Rogean tried to turn variance on ....Just give it a go.

If the server starts to go down hill, from its present state of greatness and competition.( LOLLLLLLLLLLLL ) Turn it back off ...

[Dullah]

Play better and stop begging staff to put in mechanics to give you an artificial advantage.

Variance is on blue because they can't pvp and they have 500+ people competing for the same raid mobs. We have 20-50 people doing those same raid mobs on this server, you whiny fgt.

[Stasis01]

I don't know 2.5 years and no crew has been able to attempt to compete, and just quit/jump ship.

Play better argument as stale as ur breath.

[Gaffin 3.0]

Variance aint gonna help this server the vets from blue know it, the people with brains like nirgon know it. Azrael and Red Dawn will attempt to steal a few kills just like ib/fe did to tmo for a few weeks then its back to usual farming for the top guild. You cant stop the no lifers BRAH

[Nirgon]

Tune is going to get infinite DKP tracking and send out a batphone.

You will have no one tracking and not send out a bat phone.

That's IT.

[Nizzarr]

you know, even when nirgon knows whats gonna happen, its time to give up.

[Retti_]

Pras Tune

[Stasis01]

Considering Nirgon is playing an anon toon in Nihi it's fairly obvious why he supports it - you think someone with his post count/immersion doesn't play?

http://whokilledit.com/ FE/IB got CT/Draco - seems better than NOTHING, FOREVER to me personally - good that we got the worst rogue I've ever seen to grace us with his opinion.

you couldn't have been important on blue Gaffin, I refuse to believe it - I've seen you play.

[Nirgon]

I'm not playing on red at all

I am telling you what is actually going to happen

[Retti_]

Duke I volunteer to create a ranger and share info with my guild.

[Gaffin 3.0]

Considering Nirgon is playing an anon toon in Nihi it's fairly obvious why he supports it - you think someone with his post count/immersion doesn't play?

http://whokilledit.com/ FE/IB got CT/Draco - seems better than NOTHING, FOREVER to me personally - good that we got the worst rogue I've ever seen to grace us with his opinion.

you couldn't have been important on blue Gaffin, I refuse to believe it - I've seen you play.

You dont know me ***** or what ive done on blue. Also not my point. If you followed anything over on blue which I know you havent, you would know that variance has done nothing to help other guilds.

[runlvlzero]

Would answer all speculation.

Sounds like a plea for sex...

All I need to do is just put the tip in! You'll love it, I promise!

[Gaffin 3.0]

Btw thats with IB/FE merged together they finally got some kills. They only got kills on server repops otherwise. Zerg vs Zerg. You feelers what im sayin dawg?

[lite]

Tune is going to get infinite DKP tracking and send out a batphone.

You will have no one tracking and not send out a bat phone.

That's IT.


That's just it ... I don't think anyone alive is anywhere near as interested as nihilum in killing these spawns. It's a very weird obsession. We simply want something other than a 50 man crew to attack, and if we occasionally get a boss then that's cool.

They can track all they want , and if they are still as passionate about this bank gear, have at it.

[Stasis01]

Last week whokilledit update was better for non TMO, as they also got Naggy.

Try again, worst player I've ever seen.

[Gaffin 3.0]

Never even played with you, but calll it how you see it dawg id fuck you up in a 1v1. Anyday anytime just like Gream buddy ol pal. Now excuse me while I go play Pokemon

[Stasis01]

That's just it ... I don't think anyone alive is anywhere near as interested as nihilum in killing these spawns. It's a very weird obsession. We simply want something other than a 50 man crew to attack, and if we occasionally get a boss then that's cool.

They can track all they want , and if they are still as passionate about this bank gear, have at it.

This is just it - people are fine with neckbeards neckbearing - 100% to one guild forever is too much, if you can't see the pendulum is swung way in the favor of the neckbeards with this ruleset you're blind, or don't care.

In the case of the devs I'd imagine it's the second one - since I've seen Rogean's gif and it's "this is free, go fuck yourself" which is not really an unreasonable opinion - people are just passionate about this.

[HippoNipple]

I'm not playing on red at all

I am telling you what is actually going to happen

Nirgon we have seen your posts sway to the dark side over the last couple months as your teeth slowly yellow. You are not fooling anyone here, your forumquesting days have come to an end.

[Retti_]

That's just it ... I don't think anyone alive is anywhere near as interested as nihilum in killing these spawns. It's a very weird obsession. We simply want something other than a 50 man crew to attack, and if we occasionally get a boss then that's cool.

They can track all they want , and if they are still as passionate about this bank gear, have at it.

Nobody wants mobs

Makes 10 threads a day to try and get free uncontested mobs

[Stasis01]

More spinning - people don't care if Nihi is on top, they just want an opportunity to compete.

Hence low pop no player retention in end game red99.

[Retti_]

Duke I volunteer to create a ranger and share info with my guild.

Duke u see this?

[lite]

simply want non 50v20's thanks

[HippoNipple]

As for who will bat phone on off hours and get raid targets, I don't think anyone doubts Nihilum will still do this. People against variance keep arguing this point but no one is arguing against them. You are talking to yourselves.

On the other hand Nihilum will not bat phone for raid targets they don't actually need like they do now. They currently feed on raid targets like locusts to grief the server and competing guilds because it is convenient and doesn't add much raid time. I for one do not think they will continue this if variance is added.

[Dullah]

thats y u stupid

[lite]

As for who will bat phone on off hours and get raid targets, I don't think anyone doubts Nihilum will still do this. People against variance keep arguing this point but no one is arguing against them. You are talking to yourselves.

On the other hand Nihilum will not bat phone for raid targets they don't actually need like they do now. They currently feed on raid targets like locusts to grief the server and competing guilds because it is convenient and doesn't add much raid time. I for one do not think they will continue this if variance is added.

yup. wouldn't care if they did continued to. shit I don't care if they continue to do faydadar after doing the Avatar of war ... it's fine. I just want a solution to the present problem of Zerg favoring static spawns.

[Nirgon]

I'll help you with this one, probably again but in very clear terms.

You mention that most people in Nihilum don't even like each other. Yet still, they form up in larger numbers, raid, collect dkp... maybe loot and leave.

However, the rest of the server that does not like each other is incapable of doing the same thing.

How about instead of hoarding things like pointless dkp that will never go toward a meaningful raid mob, you join banners, wipe both your entire "dkp systems" and go with something straight forward from 0? Oh, greed. The same reason why Nizzar and company don't want variance (GREED).

Variance is TERRIBLE, even if I got to sit here and laugh at Nihilum raging about losing their convenient Sunday raid day. Part of me does hate seeing a guild who was allowed every exemption in the book at no consequence that fields a developer who is also breaking the rules, succeed on this server. It's terrible and a disgrace. In fact, since things got better... how many true scumbags has Sirken banned despite having reasons to do so? That's neither here or there in this argument, but it does state that I show no favor of any kind towards Nihilum.

But, to me, that isn't worth ruining classic EverQuest by adding instancing or variance to content.

Recap: lots of people don't like each other in Nihilum but raid together and attack assist targets anyways, you should too. Variance is retarded and will end up with the same people who have all day to play EQ showing up for mobs at odd hours and none of you doing the same. The end.

Shameless plug for add item loot / fix resists.

[Gaffin 3.0]

I'll help you with this one, probably again but in very clear terms.

You mention that most people in Nihilum don't even like each other. Yet still, they form up in larger numbers, raid, collect dkp... maybe loot and leave.

However, the rest of the server that does not like each other is incapable of doing the same thing.

How about instead of hoarding things like pointless dkp that will never go toward a meaningful raid mob, you join banners, wipe both your entire "dkp systems" and go with something straight forward from 0? Oh, greed. The same reason why Nizzar and company don't want variance (GREED).

Variance is TERRIBLE, even if I got to sit here and laugh at Nihilum raging about losing their convenient Sunday raid day. Part of me does hate seeing a guild who was allowed every exemption in the book at no consequence that fields a developer who is also breaking the rules, succeed on this server. It's terrible and a disgrace. In fact, since things got better... how many true scumbags has Sirken banned despite having reasons to do so? That's neither here or there in this argument, but it does state that I show no favor of any kind towards Nihilum.

But, to me, that isn't worth ruining classic EverQuest by adding instancing or variance to content.

Recap: lots of people don't like each other in Nihilum but raid together and attack assist targets anyways, you should too. Variance is retarded. The end.

Shameless plug for add item loot / fix resists.

[Pudge]

Would answer all speculation.

forumquest aint about answers.

it's about speculation

[Stasis01]

I'll help you with this one, probably again but in very clear terms.

You mention that most people in Nihilum don't even like each other. Yet still, they form up in larger numbers, raid, collect dkp... maybe loot and leave.

However, the rest of the server that does not like each other is incapable of doing the same thing.

How about instead of hoarding things like pointless dkp that will never go toward a meaningful raid mob, you join banners, wipe both your entire "dkp systems" and go with something straight forward from 0? Oh, greed. The same reason why Nizzar and company don't want variance (GREED).

Variance is TERRIBLE, even if I got to sit here and laugh at Nihilum raging about losing their convenient Sunday raid day. Part of me does hate seeing a guild who was allowed every exemption in the book at no consequence that fields a developer who is also breaking the rules, succeed on this server. It's terrible and a disgrace. In fact, since things got better... how many true scumbags has Sirken banned despite having reasons to do so? That's neither here or there in this argument, but it does state that I show no favor of any kind towards Nihilum.

But, to me, that isn't worth ruining classic EverQuest by adding instancing or variance to content.

Recap: lots of people don't like each other in Nihilum but raid together and attack assist targets anyways, you should too. Variance is retarded and will end up with the same people who have all day to play EQ showing up for mobs at odd hours and none of you doing the same. The end.

Shameless plug for add item loot / fix resists.

They do it because there's no other option to compete or take raid mobs.

That doesn't work in a guild that obtains nothing, it isn't rocket science - and there's a reason it hasn't worked since release, regardless of the crew/time.

If you think that there are enough players to band together to take Nihilum heads up, you haven't competed or watched the scene - but I imagine you just benefit from this rule set as your anon Nihi toon.

[Dullah]

From the midst of stupidity, Nirgon emerges with logic.

dum
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tinfoil
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hat
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theories
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Recap: lots of people don't like each other in Nihilum but raid together and attack assist targets anyways, you should too. Variance is retarded and will end up with the same people who have all day to play EQ showing up for mobs at odd hours and none of you doing the same. The end.

[Stasis01]

Nirgon, who is against boxing that was enabled in classic cannot budge on variance as it is custom.

Nukes a Dark elf warrior with 1 SSOY and a shield named billy(instead of the called target) and gets yelled at by Gongshow tells people to play better.

Dis guy so out of touch with reality it's hard to read his garbage posts.

[Stasis01]

A trial implementation of Variance would clear this all up.

My theory - neckbeards get most, competition gets some - all are happy.

Current system - Neckbeards get ALL, competition gets none = no competition.

[HippoNipple]

I'll help you with this one, probably again but in very clear terms.

You mention that most people in Nihilum don't even like each other. Yet still, they form up in larger numbers, raid, collect dkp... maybe loot and leave.

However, the rest of the server that does not like each other is incapable of doing the same thing.

How about instead of hoarding things like pointless dkp that will never go toward a meaningful raid mob, you join banners, wipe both your entire "dkp systems" and go with something straight forward from 0? Oh, greed. The same reason why Nizzar and company don't want variance (GREED).

Variance is TERRIBLE, even if I got to sit here and laugh at Nihilum raging about losing their convenient Sunday raid day. Part of me does hate seeing a guild who was allowed every exemption in the book at no consequence that fields a developer who is also breaking the rules, succeed on this server. It's terrible and a disgrace. In fact, since things got better... how many true scumbags has Sirken banned despite having reasons to do so? That's neither here or there in this argument, but it does state that I show no favor of any kind towards Nihilum.

But, to me, that isn't worth ruining classic EverQuest by adding instancing or variance to content.

Recap: lots of people don't like each other in Nihilum but raid together and attack assist targets anyways, you should too. Variance is retarded and will end up with the same people who have all day to play EQ showing up for mobs at odd hours and none of you doing the same. The end.

Shameless plug for add item loot / fix resists.


You are wrong on this one doc. Your tunnel vision on classic has blinded you. Classic Everquest is an environment in which this games content can thrive in a competitive atmosphere. You get hung up too much on mechanics and don't allow for change that can provide the classic atmosphere with innovative improvements. You are a dinosaur my friend.

[Stasis01]

Nirgon is against boxing which is classic - his entire shtick of "things must be classic" have all fallen apart from that point on.

A subscription fee is irrelevant - no boxing is a custom idea that helps or hurts the box depending on your thoughts on it.

[Retti_]

I'll help you with this one, probably again but in very clear terms.

You mention that most people in Nihilum don't even like each other. Yet still, they form up in larger numbers, raid, collect dkp... maybe loot and leave.

However, the rest of the server that does not like each other is incapable of doing the same thing.

How about instead of hoarding things like pointless dkp that will never go toward a meaningful raid mob, you join banners, wipe both your entire "dkp systems" and go with something straight forward from 0? Oh, greed. The same reason why Nizzar and company don't want variance (GREED).

Variance is TERRIBLE, even if I got to sit here and laugh at Nihilum raging about losing their convenient Sunday raid day. Part of me does hate seeing a guild who was allowed every exemption in the book at no consequence that fields a developer who is also breaking the rules, succeed on this server. It's terrible and a disgrace. In fact, since things got better... how many true scumbags has Sirken banned despite having reasons to do so? That's neither here or there in this argument, but it does state that I show no favor of any kind towards Nihilum.

But, to me, that isn't worth ruining classic EverQuest by adding instancing or variance to content.

Recap: lots of people don't like each other in Nihilum but raid together and attack assist targets anyways, you should too. Variance is retarded and will end up with the same people who have all day to play EQ showing up for mobs at odd hours and none of you doing the same. The end.

Shameless plug for add item loot / fix resists.


http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6evrd96hq1rziwwco1_500.gif

[Stasis01]

I have seen everyone mass into one guild and fight Nihilum under the same banner - you know what happens?

People realise if they are going to put up with people they don't like, and play with a massive amount of players JUST to have a chance at raids mobs, they might as well just join Nihilum, since it's a Nihilum clone.

That is exactly what we don't want - as it is PROVEN not to work or make this fun/retain players.

[Stasis01]

If people can't compete unless it's by making their own zerg, all you're doing is mimicking Nihilum and will do it the same.

If somehow a guild manages to overtake Nihilum, maybe Nizzar dies IRL or something crazy - the neckbeards will all leave Nihi and join the NEW zerg, resulting in the SAME situation.

[Retti_]

Or lite and team stomp their feet like faggots that didn't get their way and rant about sky dkp and it being unfair if they merge and create a new system

[Stasis01]

I have heard the real situation about that - and it was the work on the database/recording DKP that was the issue as it was going to be thrown out completely, which I can understand.

More trolling. Play better, stop arguing about DKP, band together blah blah it's lite, checkraise, holocaust, griefing, don't work together - EXCUSES, the systems broken - MORE LAME excuses.

[Retti_]

I have heard the real situation about that - and it was the work on the database/recording DKP that was the issue as it was going to be thrown out completely, which I can understand.

More trolling. Play better, stop arguing about DKP, band together blah blah it's lite, checkraise, holocaust, griefing, don't work together - EXCUSES, the systems broken - MORE LAME excuses.

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/sl52459726.jpg

[Gaffin 3.0]

Your also making out variance to be some huge population bringer which it isnt. This is emulated eq with pvp server, not everyne wants to pvp so they go blue and still struggle with the same problems yet they have 800 pop non stop. Only reason Zek or any other pvp servers had pop was because of the huge playerbase being in the 10's of thousands. This box or teams will never be more than 300 pop steady with or without variance.

[Stasis01]

Your also making out variance to be some huge population bringer which it isnt. This is emulated eq with pvp server, not everyne wants to pvp so they go blue and still struggle with the same problems yet they have 800 pop non stop. Only reason Zek or any other pvp servers had pop was because of the huge playerbase being in the 10's of thousands. This box or teams will never be more than 300 pop steady with or without variance.

I don't even know how to reply to this garbage, only that you should use you're at the beginning.

[Stasis01]

I have proof that no one can compete here, as history is the evidence.

The fact that only Nihilum members argue with me is further lols. I know Rogean doesn't give a fuck about red, but maybe if I point this out enough they'll realize how hilarious the Red99 end game situation is.

[Gaffin 3.0]

I don't even know how to reply to this garbage, only that you should use you're at the beginning.

Read it again maybe? Pretty clear what I said. Talking to you is like talking to a bonzi buddy on repeat though, please go back to regular quad posting as it is retarded to even argue any valid points with you. Didnt work on blue will not work on red, is just a excuse for guilds with bad leaders.

[runlvlzero]

300 max on a perfect day in a perfect universe maybe 301.

[Stasis01]

Your also making out variance to be some huge population bringer which it isnt. This is emulated eq with pvp server, not everyne wants to pvp so they go blue and still struggle with the same problems yet they have 800 pop non stop. Only reason Zek or any other pvp servers had pop was because of the huge playerbase being in the 10's of thousands. This box or teams will never be more than 300 pop steady with or without variance.

Not everyone wants pvp so they go to blue and still struggle with the same problems? Pvp?

I agree that the population won't be the same as Live, I think that's obvious?

Your only point that I care about is that variance doesn't add population but back nothing up with logic or any reasons why.

I mean your two weeks on Red99 was the biggest joke of any player, you sound like a dumbass on teamspeak etc etc put down the bong, put a thought out opinion together, and I'll treat you like you aren't a complete fucking retard.

[Stasis01]

Or same problems that a top guild gets all the raid mobs? I've been following the blue raid tracker and it isn't 100% TMO so that isn't even accurate, I mean I don't even know who you play or what your angle is, I think you're just an idiot.

[Bazia]

Now excuse me while I go play Pokemon

Awww yisssssss

[Gaffin 3.0]

Or same problems that a top guild gets all the raid mobs? I've been following the blue raid tracker and it isn't 100% TMO so that isn't even accurate, I mean I don't even know who you play or what your angle is, I think you're just an idiot.

I was raiding content on blue before red even came out, Ive been in every top guild on both servers, my 2 weeks? Sounds like you just heard gay rumors people all made up about me, because Azrael was one of the shittiest guilds I been in despite Lite helping me finish my epic at lvl 52 and I thank him for that, I think agatha had some push in on that, but he's still my *****.

No shit we arent going to see live numbers, I said this server wont even see 300 pop with or without variance regardless if its put in.

My time on red I never saw you log on but maybe 3 times and I havent used "Gaffin" every character I played. Mark my words, disbelief or not variance isnt gonna help this server, nirgon and others already pointed out the main reasons. You say TMO hasnt got 100 % of the mobs blah blah, they never do around this time of year, its a fucking server on repeat for years now, raided the server firsts with IB. You are the fucking idiot to believe a non classic variance will help this 100 pop server.

[Stasis01]

So you wrote a paragraph to say nothing cool story.

I believe that you're a big shot from blue, LOL not.

[Gaffin 3.0]

So you wrote a paragraph to say nothing cool story.

I believe that you're a big shot from blue, LOL not.

Dawg even im known by many from rallos, who the fuck are you? Oh yah quad post rager mad cuz your guild is failure.

[Stasis01]

You didn't see me in-game because I don't hang around level 52 levelling areas(is that the lvl you made it to?)

I hang around Nihi guild binds, or hang out spots etc - where real players are at.

[runlvlzero]

Stasis obsessed with variance, u cant argue with the insane, I say give it, because IDGAF about nihilum really but it wont make the pop increase like he thinks it would

[Stasis01]

Care to find yourself on the leaderboard so we can compare? I don't feel like looking past like rank 500 and shit. --- to Gaffin.

[Retti_]

who the fuck are you? Oh yah quad post rager mad cuz your guild is failure.

Chortled

[Gaffin 3.0]

You didn't see me in-game because I don't hang around level 52 levelling areas(is that the lvl you made it to?)

I hang around Nihi guild binds, or hang out spots etc - where real players are at.

Grats dont care, I was talked shit to and griefed upon everyone because I posted a fraps of winning a duel against best geared rogue on blue before playing here and then using the same name, had I used another name it probably would have went alot different. Not to get offtopic here but I just wanted to point out the obvious that your mad as fuck your guild sucks and I get it.

[Stasis01]

Gaffin is a big wig from blue, has been in better guilds than I could dream of - Azrael was one of the shittiest guilds on the box and I am just mad that it sucks (I am not even Az crew, just loyal resistance member)

DRUM ROLL MOTHER FUCKERS I TOOK THE TWO MINUTES OUT OF MY DAY TO LOOK UP THIS PRO.

[Stasis01]

1382 Gaffin Rogue-96 18 14 51 0.35:1 11/14/2013

That's right Gaffin, you are 1382 / 1409 position on red99.

THAT IS 14 UNIQUE KILLS and 51 DEATHS LOL.

Please gtfo out of my thread, you sound like a retard on TS, you type like a retard on the forums - any legitimate proof is just further showing how bad you are.

[Gaffin 3.0]

Rustled

[Stasis01]

Yes I do admit, taking 5 minutes to look up how shitty you are was a good troll.

At least now we can move past all the garbage that comes out of your mouth, and it's proven that you're as shitty as I claimed.

[Zade]

It has been talked about by the staff. At this time, variance will not be implemented. You know when the spawn timers are. recruit more zerg and kill nilly.

[Stasis01]

TBH I would have saved timed if I started looking from the last page, LOL.

[Gaffin 3.0]

Mad

[Stasis01]

It has been talked about by the staff. At this time, variance will not be implemented. You know when the spawn timers are. recruit more zerg and kill nilly.

I disagree with the decision, but appreciate the response - thanks pal.

[Gaffin 3.0]

It has been talked about by the staff. At this time, variance will not be implemented. You know when the spawn timers are. recruit more zerg and kill nilly.

Lol ownt

[Dullah]

It has been talked about by the staff. At this time, variance will not be implemented. You know when the spawn timers are. recruit more zerg and kill nilly.

[Zade]

Lol ownt

not meant to be.

just the truth.

no feelings need be hurt.

[Stasis01]

Don't worry about Gaffin he's upset that he's literally bottom 10 on Red99.

[Labanen]

It has been talked about by the staff. At this time, variance will not be implemented. You know when the spawn timers are. recruit more zerg and kill nilly.Cool that you take input from the community and throw the idea around. Obviously i like the decision, but thats not the most important thing. Thank you sirs.

[Retti_]

It has been talked about by the staff. At this time, variance will not be implemented. You know when the spawn timers are. recruit more zerg and kill nilly.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/1015650/office-space-cubicle-o.gif

[Stasis01]

Cool that you take input from the community and throw the idea around. Obviously i like the decision, but thats not the most important thing. Thank you sirs.

/agree

[quido]

Retti, do you really think Nihilum considers you one of their own? Or are you just some guy lurking around until his next blowup?

[Nirgon]

Nirgon is against boxing which is classic - his entire shtick of "things must be classic" have all fallen apart from that point on.

A subscription fee is irrelevant - no boxing is a custom idea that helps or hurts the box depending on your thoughts on it.

Go play on the blue server for variance and tell me how great it is.

Grats on your dwarf rogue too.

[Retti_]

Retti, do you really think Nihilum considers you one of their own? Or are you just some guy lurking around until his next blowup?

Since I still like you even tho ur upset I'll let u in on a server secret.

I was nihilum until Kunark.

[Gaffin 3.0]

Don't worry about Gaffin he's upset that he's literally bottom 10 on Red99.

Tell us more about your feelings

[Stasis01]

Go play on the blue server for variance and tell me how great it is.

Grats on your dwarf rogue too.



Your logic is a failure "EVERYTHING MUST REMAIN CLASSIC, EXCEPT BOXING" and you justify it with garbage.

I just don't subscribe to your logic - to me it's bullshit, and play better is funny considering I've seen you play.

I'm good with no title bro, judge zade made his ruling - I'm good with that too.

[HippoNipple]

Big secret there. Retti has no loyalty and no one cares.

[Stasis01]

Since I still like you even tho ur upset I'll let u in on a server secret.

I was nihilum until Kunark.

If you think they like you, they don't, and that's not a troll.

[quido]

I'm not upset, I just think you're accepted with a level of mistrust and apprehension until your next RMT episode or dramatic in-game incident.

[Gaffin 3.0]

Your logic is a failure "EVERYTHING MUST REMAIN CLASSIC, EXCEPT BOXING" and you justify it with garbage.

I just don't subscribe to your logic - to me it's bullshit, and play better is funny considering I've seen you play.

I'm good with no title bro, judge zade made his ruling - I'm good with that too.

YES TELL US MORE

[Retti_]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/3975848/office-space-2-o.gif

[HippoNipple]

Your logic is a failure "EVERYTHING MUST REMAIN CLASSIC, EXCEPT BOXING" and you justify it with garbage.

I just don't subscribe to your logic - to me it's bullshit, and play better is funny considering I've seen you play.

I'm good with no title bro, judge zade made his ruling - I'm good with that too.

Watching Nirgon fight classic features is like watching my 70 year old colleague trying to email something with an attachment. The guy is set in his ways and can't evolve.

[Gaffin 3.0]

dat ***** playin eq?

[Visual]

Problem is that new server opening is like a bursting dam. People are going to flood the server at launch (regardless of rule set).

Either way, chalk up another one in the W column for the vztz trolls. Convinced the staff to wipe it clean 2 times (3 technically), then persuaded Rogean to make a server you never intended playing on (r99) and now this new Teams server. Bravo

[Stasis01]

No idea who you are, but the only VZTZ troll I know about is Cast, and he hardly had a hand in the teams idea.

[Pudge]

It has been talked about by the staff. At this time, variance will not be implemented. You know when the spawn timers are. recruit more zerg and kill nilly.

staff really think it's better for the server this way?

........... really?

[withinyouwithoutyou]

whats all this speak of variance

[Littlegyno 10.0]

Remember when I made fun of everyone who didn't roll a barb rogue

Loved watching the matches and the feelings of validation

http://i.imgur.com/q9WX0I0.jpg

[Gaffin 3.0]

ur sick gyno

[vouss]

Winning best of the best if a pretty lame reason to a roll a race you don't think is totally bad ass. If I had another chance I'd be a half elf rogue for sure.

[hagard]

The zerg is logging on for their 3 minutes of forumquesting to slay the thread. DKP will be handed out.

so tru

[Clark]

Would answer all speculation.

:D

[Dullah]

I got so much dkp this last week of forumquest. Bought my new warrior a fungi, cloak of flames and epic.

[Retti_]

HAHAHA