Variance.

[Sirken]

just

"Yes" - I want variance

or

"No" - i dont want variance


i really dont care about the reasoning at this point, im sure i could look it up with a forum search. just gimme the yes or no.

its for science

[Sirken]

note- i didnt do a poll on purpose. fawk polls.

[Holey]

"No" - i dont want variance"

[Not_Kazowi]

Yes I want variance

[Sektor]

no - I don't want variance

[Colgate]

as the best player on this server and therefore the person with the most valuable and important opinion,

yes, i want variance

[Stasis01]

Yes - you will notice a trend of Nihilum, versus non Nihilum - unfortunately all the people who don't play here can't vote. I'm sure a high % of the players in control of this low pop box will vote yes as it benefits them. Those seeking a large pop are an endangered species these days.

[Andis]

yes - I want variance

server needs change.

[Twainz]

Yes. Don't like 50 man raids once a week.

[still_MORNIN]

Yes- want increased experience

[heartbrand]

Yes. I used to be against Variance, until I saw how Nihilum has a lot of trouble fielding people for the 3 day raids like Trakanon / Dracoliche, but for a once a week plow through everything fiesta they can get everyone on. With variance and having to have multiple bat phones, they won't be able to field 50+ to everything. I think Variance would be great. Imagine you're in Halls of Testing doing some gear clear and suddenly dozekar pops. Now you have a shot at a mob you may have never had before if it's "everything pops 30 minutes after each other and 70 people can log on for 3 hours and mow them all down."

[dwightgeary]

YES

[Sirken]

Yes - you will notice a trend of Nihilum, versus non Nihilum - unfortunately all the people who don't play here can't vote. I'm sure a high % of the players in control of this low pop box will vote yes as it benefits them. Those seeking a large pop are an endangered species these days.

i dont care which has more votes because the outcome has zero effect on the servers. like i said, im doing this for me and for science.

[freez]

Yes I want variance

[Andis]

Yes. I used to be against Variance, until I saw how Nihilum has a lot of trouble fielding people for the 3 day raids like Trakanon / Dracoliche, but for a once a week plow through everything fiesta they can get everyone on. With variance and having to have multiple bat phones, they won't be able to field 50+ to everything. I think Variance would be great. Imagine you're in Halls of Testing doing some gear clear and suddenly dozekar pops. Now you have a shot at a mob you may have never had before if it's "everything pops 30 minutes after each other and 70 people can log on for 3 hours and mow them all down."

HB making sense

pras

[lite]

Yes I want variance

Heartbrand flip flopping for the 3rd time. no surprise there.

[Instagib]

Yes

[Silent]

No thanks on the variance, Doesn't matter what side you are on. Will eventually leave people uninterested in killing mobs if they have to get up at X hour for every other boss despite the pixel lust that sets in.

[quido]

Yes Variance

[meatspin]

"Yes" - I want variance

[Tune]

no

thread doesn't even deliver

failed shut it down

[Sirken]

omg.

Yes or No. thats it.


this is why we cant have nice things

[Retti_]

No

TLDR no


Hi Sirken I love you

[meatspin]

Yes

[Twainz]

Yes

[Tikku82]

Yes

[Dullah]

"No" - i dont want variance

[Andis]

I was against it from playing blue but now

Yes , Variance plz

lolol someone bump my variance thread

rellapse confirmed retard

oh and yes variance

[Not_Kazowi]

So far the only "No's" are from nihilum members

[mikemandella]

Yes!

(yes from my cousin too)

-Oppressor

[Andis]

So far the only "No's" are from nihilum members

[magician]

"No" - i dont want variance

[Dullah]

Put variance on the teams server and have a ball.

Keep red pure and allow people to actually contest at a set time.

[DrNarcisse]

Yes I'd like Nihilum to have to log on for more than 3 hours a week while killing the dragons in the same exact order, week after week. So yes, I want variance!!!! :D

[Nizzarr]

Yes I want variance so whenever they batphone and cant get people on for two week straight they'll leave the server.

Also nihilum recruiting! need 30 more people for variance pst! pixel packages included

[Andis]

Keep red pure and allow people to actually contest at a set time.

keep red pure? nihilum makes this red server blue # 2

its a time for change

a RED change

Yes for Variance

[Colgate]

can i join?

[magician]

only if you make a character called lemonhead

[jeffd]

yes

lord mustard don't even raid, but nilly raiding @5am w/ 40 ppl prob not too good for server pop, u feel me

[heartbrand]

Red Dawn recruiting, pixel packages offered, PL's, groups, good chat, good people. Yes, you can get your trak bp / vs greaves and epic faster in Nihilum. But keep in mind 1) the server becomes incredibly boring after you get those "items" with nothing left to do and little feeling of achievement 2) those items are easily obtainable in a couple of months with velious 3) will feel much better obtaining when you do so as a guild where each persons effort and hard work is needed for victory. There's a reason America loves the underdog. Be an American, join Red Dawn, don't be a Canadian socialist free handout scumsucker.

[Bazia]

yes

[DrNarcisse]

Yes I want variance so whenever they batphone and cant get people on for two week straight they'll leave the server.

Also nihilum recruiting! need 30 more people for variance pst! pixel packages included

This is the whole point. Without variance you literally do nothing but have your same 50 wheelchair bound cripples log in and kill things in the same order each week. You are 90% of the lvl 60 population, who could contend with you?

Atleast with variance people might quit your guild out of frustration and start their own because they can pick off targets, the sick part is you will recruit more but one day no one will want to play under you because 99% of the players have gone through the Nihilum meat grinder, then what will you do for a living when you can't RMT all your plat/items?

[Dullah]

Lol, pick off targets.

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(of a person or action) showing a lack of experience, wisdom, or judgment.
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[Nizzarr]

This is the whole point. Without variance you literally do nothing but have your same 50 wheelchair bound cripples log in and kill things in the same order each week. You are 90% of the lvl 60 population, who could contend with you?

Atleast with variance people might quit your guild out of frustration and start their own because they can pick off targets, the sick part is you will recruit more but one day no one will want to play under you because 99% of the players have gone through the Nihilum meat grinder, then what will you do for a living when you can't RMT all your plat/items?

lol @ this.

We'll just get more people np

[DrNarcisse]

That's ok, I already addressed that.

one day no one will want to play under you because 99% of the players have gone through the Nihilum meat grinder, then what will you do for a living when you can't RMT all your plat/items?

[Rust1d?]

Yes- I want Variance.

Thanks!

[Not_Kazowi]

lol @ this.

We'll just get more people np

I just don't understand it. Why are you hell bent on making this server suck shit?

I don't think the server can be saved with these people playing. This shit is their life/job

[heartbrand]

they'll recruit more people when we start contesting also. who cares what Nihilum does? Dunno, I don't play to win 100% of the time. No1 in professional sports wins 100% of the time. You play, you win some you lose some. Who cares? All people need to see is a viable second option for obtaining loot and goals, and Nihilum will no longer be able to attract as many people. I'm working on doing that.

[Rust1d?]

Does Nizzar and the rest of them get paid to play EQ? If so let me know cause I wanna quit my job and farm pixels. :rolleyes:

Cannot wait for teams or LoZ to roll a new server (heard they are making a new server) so I can play some good EQ with good pvp.

[Something'Witty]

Not as simple as a yes or no for me. I would say yes if it was a narrow window, say ± 1-3 hours, but not ± 6-24 hours. I don't like the idea of one group / guild locking down raid targets because they know exactly when they are going to pop, but I also loath poopsocking.

[heartbrand]

Not as simple as a yes or no for me. I would say yes if it was a narrow window, say ± 1-3 hours, but not ± 6-24 hours. I don't like the idea of one group / guild locking down raid targets because they know exactly when they are going to pop, but I also loath poopsocking.

[DrNarcisse]

I just don't understand it. Why are you hell bent on making this server suck shit?

I don't think the server can be saved with these people playing. This shit is their life/job

Because he saw how Holocaust destroyed him and his shitty guild when we were still around, and he never wants to go through that again. So to combat it he just realized he has to recruit 90% of the high level players and get them on the pixel lust assembly line and no one will ever be able to overthrow his guild and he can continue making money from RMT.

Nizzar is one of the worst PVPers I've encountered, but theres one thing you can say about him: he has no life and is willing to spend 2+ years of it dedicated to leading a huge zerg on a 50 pop elf simulator for pixels. He has no desire to lead a 25 man guild because he'd get over run in pvp by even mediocre players. He needs the zerg or he is useless.

[raka]

YES - oooohhhh variance, wet, drippy, odorless.....
give it to me dirty dawg-no homo-yes homo-maybe some homo

[Greegon]

Yes. I used to be against Variance, until I saw how Nihilum has a lot of trouble fielding people for the 3 day raids like Trakanon / Dracoliche, but for a once a week plow through everything fiesta they can get everyone on. With variance and having to have multiple bat phones, they won't be able to field 50+ to everything. I think Variance would be great. Imagine you're in Halls of Testing doing some gear clear and suddenly dozekar pops. Now you have a shot at a mob you may have never had before if it's "everything pops 30 minutes after each other and 70 people can log on for 3 hours and mow them all down."

pras

No thanks on the variance, Doesn't matter what side you are on. Will eventually leave people uninterested in killing mobs if they have to get up at X hour for every other boss despite the pixel lust that sets in.

scum, dont lie, youll be there anyways

Yes Variance

shit i mean if jeremy thinks its a good idea it must be

YES to variance

[raka]

they'll recruit more people when we start contesting also. who cares what Nihilum does? Dunno, I don't play to win 100% of the time. No1 in professional sports wins 100% of the time. You play, you win some you lose some. Who cares? All people need to see is a viable second option for obtaining loot and goals, and Nihilum will no longer be able to attract as many people. I'm working on doing that.

[Rust1d?]

Because he saw how Holocaust destroyed him and his shitty guild when we were still around, and he never wants to go through that again. So to combat it he just realized he has to recruit 90% of the high level players and get them on the pixel lust assembly line and no one will ever be able to overthrow his guild and he can continue making money from RMT.

Nizzar is one of the worst PVPers I've encountered, but theres one thing you can say about him: he has no life and is willing to spend 2+ years of it dedicated to leading a huge zerg on a 50 pop elf simulator for pixels. He has no desire to lead a 25 man guild because he'd get over run in pvp by even mediocre players. He needs the zerg or he is useless.

Summed it up quite nicely. He must spend his entire day playing.

[Genedin]

Yes.

[Elderan]

No - Variance

You know people who don't get mobs always think the grass is greener so how do you think they will vote?

If you put variance in I will quit and never come back. My wife will be happy at least.

[Andis]

If you put variance in I will quit and never come back. My wife will be happy at least.

rofl the thought of his loss of pixel day - too much too handle

vote variance, YES

[Rust1d?]

No - Variance

You know people who don't get mobs always think the grass is greener so how do you think they will vote?

If you put variance in I will quit and never come back. My wife will be happy at least.

Don't let the door hit ya bro.

[Nizzarr]

Variance should be on the team server, where it belongs!

[Not_Kazowi]

No - Variance

You know people who don't get mobs always think the grass is greener so how do you think they will vote?

If you put variance in I will quit and never come back. My wife will be happy at least.

LOL

[Andis]

Variance should be on the team server, where it belongs!

your time is up pal

RED TEAM ASSEMBLEEEE

[HippoNipple]

Yes

[Elderan]

rofl the thought of his loss of pixel day - too much too handle

vote variance, YES

Nope it is the thought of I already put 25 hours a week into this game. Variance will require me to put closer to 40 hours in.

Pass..

[quido]

Cracks me up how scared of variance Nihilum is =)

[Not_Kazowi]

Nope it is the thought of I already put 25 hours a week into this game. Variance will require me to put closer to 40 hours in.

Pass..

Why don't you just change your life up? You don't have to play this game like a job unless it is your job.

[Twainz]

Nope it is the thought of I already put 25 hours a week into this game. Variance will require me to put closer to 40 hours in.

Pass..

Where do you spend 25 hours a week? You are only online for dragons days. Unless you count the 4 other accounts you have logged in with Elderan. 5 toons x 5 hours does = 25 hours total.


You literally only log on to PvE on A PVP SERVER. You have never once engaged in PvP unless Nizzar told you to.

[DrNarcisse]

No - Variance

If you put variance in I will quit and never come back.

Hilarious. Threatening to quit the server because he can't kill every dragon in the game in the same order every week over the same 3 hour period with 50 other bed ridden, wheelchair bound losers who only care about pixels on a pvp server.

Will you agree to being banned if variance is put in so we can make sure you uphold your promise?

[lite]

Nope it is the thought of I already put 25 hours a week into this game. Variance will require me to put closer to 40 hours in.

Pass..

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/43571149.jpg

[Stasis01]

Nope it is the thought of I already put 25 hours a week into this game. Variance will require me to put closer to 40 hours in.

Pass..

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Genedin]

Dis thread so hot right now.

[Andis]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/43571149.jpg

ROFL

[canardvc]

Yes - "I want variance"

[Retti_]

Nizzar good at trolling cus u can never tell if srs

[Stasis01]

Retti good at sucken D cause he goes balls deep.

[Retti_]

Stasis good at being mad cus mad

[Andis]

Retti good at sucken D cause he goes balls deep.

him and sektors

your skill in dick-sucking has been maxed (200)

[freez]

Hilarious. Threatening to quit the server because he can't kill every dragon in the game in the same order every week over the same 3 hour period with 50 other bed ridden, wheelchair bound losers who only care about pixels on a pvp server.

oooo god thats a sweet way to put it.


the fuckin truth

[Retti_]

Everything I do I do one hunnid ya dig my nig

[Nizzarr]

we have 20 people for trakanons, you guys cant even contest and you know when it spawns.

not sure why we'd need variance. You guys want some ez dragons @ 7am in the morning uncontested or something?

[Retti_]

Remember when entire box knew server was coming up and everything was up same time. We did like 10 mobs and they were still hammering to OT for talendor at 2 hours later

[HippoNipple]

Nope it is the thought of I already put 25 hours a week into this game. Variance will require me to put closer to 40 hours in.

Pass..

You could continue to play 25 hours a week and just have fun when you are on. Are you saying your life will come to a screeching halt if you are not able to slay every dragon in Norrath?

[freez]

we have 20 people for trakanons, you guys cant even contest and you know when it spawns.

not sure why we'd need variance. You guys want some ez dragons @ 7am in the morning uncontested or something?

no, you have 50 people for trakanons


shriveled up canadian nutsack taxidermist

[freez]

Remember when entire box knew server was coming up and everything was up same time. We did like 10 mobs and they were still hammering to OT for talendor at 2 hours later

might have something to do with the 50 vs 15

:rolleyes:

[DrNarcisse]

we have 20 people for trakanons, you guys cant even contest and you know when it spawns.

not sure why we'd need variance. You guys want some ez dragons @ 7am in the morning uncontested or something?

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You misrepresented someone's argument to make it easier to attack.

By exaggerating, misrepresenting, or just completely fabricating someone's argument, it's much easier to present your own position as being reasonable, but this kind of dishonesty serves to undermine honest rational debate.

Example: After Will said that we should put more money into health and education, Warren responded by saying that he was surprised that Will hates our country so much that he wants to leave it defenseless by cutting military spending.


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[HippoNipple]

we have 20 people for trakanons, you guys cant even contest and you know when it spawns.

not sure why we'd need variance. You guys want some ez dragons @ 7am in the morning uncontested or something?

It is impossible to explain to someone like yourself. You can't comprehend why others play the game for fun and not for a living.

[Rust1d?]

Nope it is the thought of I already put 25 hours a week into this game. Variance will require me to put closer to 40 hours in.

Pass..

LOL this kid puts 25 hours a week into this game? You do know you do not HAVE to log in every day right? You COULD have sex or take a a shit or eat...unless you are unemployed?

[Not_Kazowi]

There really is no argument against variance besides, "I am in nihilum and it would inconvenience me."

[DrNarcisse]

Remember when entire box knew server was coming up and everything was up same time. We did like 10 mobs and they were still hammering to OT for talendor at 2 hours later

Oh look another strawman

A straw man, also known in the UK as an Aunt Sally,[1][2] is a common type of argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[3] To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and to refute it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.[3][4] This technique has been used throughout history in polemical debate, particularly in arguments about highly charged, emotional issues. In those cases the false victory is often loudly or conspicuously celebrated.

[Retti_]

might have something to do with the 50 vs 15

:rolleyes:

50 vs 15 is your excuse to why you can't do uncontested dragon?

K

[HippoNipple]

Example: After Will said that we should put more money into health and education, Warren responded by saying that he was surprised that Will hates our country so much that he wants to leave it defenseless by cutting military spending.



Will is a lowlife socialist pig!

[Stasis01]

Nope it is the thought of I already put 25 hours a week into this game. Variance will require me to put closer to 40 hours in.

Pass..

Oh right, people just come and punch their time card here for 25 hrs a week and sit around waiting for dibs on Velious loot.

Fuck Smedy, good luck doing a promo video for here considering this is what the box is.

[Sirken]

ok thanks