Would 7 days of zone control/pvp be better than wasteland EQ?

[Stasis01]

I think so - vote variance.

Having a guild come at a scheduled time and enforce a max showing for a static set time every week ruins this box for the entire week, and only encourages mass zerging and ahead of time positioning.

Time to rethink this model of wasteland red99 with no zone control, response time, trackers.

I am not saying Nihilum won't keep winning - I am saying if we keep this ruleset, you just end up with an empty box 90% of the time, and static dragon farming 10% of the time - very boring, this is not just a trend it's been this way for over a year.

[Andis]

vote in for variance

[freez]

I think so - vote variance.

Having a guild come at a scheduled time and enforce a max showing for a static set time every week ruins this box for the entire week, and only encourages mass zerging and ahead of time positioning.

Time to rethink this model of wasteland red99 with no zone control, response time, trackers.

I am not saying Nihilum won't keep winning - I am saying if we keep this ruleset, you just end up with an empty box 90% of the time, and static dragon farming 10% of the time - very boring, this is not just a trend it's been this way for over a year.

well put

[big mouth chew]

if a bunch of other people killing an npc or two "ruins this box for the entire week" then you need to re-evaluate your life, both in game & out
i dont give a Fuck bout dragons and i have a great time

food4thought

[freez]

chewie if you don't give a shit then don't post


seems like u care

[freez]

an npc or two = / = inny ct sev trak tal fay gore etc etc


they log in 50 people to do these mobs in 4 hours.


ya super healthy for box

[big mouth chew]

chewie if you don't give a shit then don't post


seems like u care

youve typed my name almost 100 times on these forms

seems like u care


back on topic tho, anyone remember when stasis joined nilly haha funny that he makes so many threads like this now
someone must have deleted a sow sword that he wanted

[Stasis01]

I don't know why you're so retarded, probably just trolling?

Anyways, yes if you don't care about the end game of the box, than variance and end game discussion really doesn't apply to you.

I am very glad that you find soloing mobs in guk, or whatever you do nowadays a great time.

[freez]

if it bothers you what I type out your name to respond to something stupid u say then don't post



huehue

[Tune]

u want variance but cant even get 1 mob on a full re-pop day

motives behind his idea more toxic than good

[Colgate]

u want variance but cant even get 1 mob on a full re-pop day

motives behind his idea more toxic than good

did you read?

I am not saying Nihilum won't keep winning - I am saying if we keep this ruleset, you just end up with an empty box 90% of the time, and static dragon farming 10% of the time - very boring, this is not just a trend it's been this way for over a year.

[freez]

u want variance but cant even get 1 mob on a full re-pop day

motives behind his idea more toxic than good

this man is there for the repop Mondays every single time


ofcorse you don't want variance

[Tassador]

if a bunch of other people killing an npc or two "ruins this box for the entire week" then you need to re-evaluate your life, both in game & out
i dont give a Fuck bout dragons and i have a great time

food4thought
Match set point!

[freez]

I haven't seen a foh tag in 3 months not sure why chewie would even add input he cant even kill ghoul lord anymore

[Not_Kazowi]

VZTZ had a great rule in place to help smaller guilds. Zone control and LNS.

Basically once you died you had to leave the zone for an hour. Thus if a smaller guild could snipe people off, they could essentially have zone control at some point and/or prevent the larger guild from doing the mob if they had key players on LNS.

Currently the no rules shit just doesn't work. The LNS was also nice because it prevented just total griefing and encouraged a somewhat healthier atmosphere.

[Andis]

Ive seen foh tag all the time

on the left side of yt daily

chewie and co. doing real good

[Stasis01]

u want variance but cant even get 1 mob on a full re-pop day

motives behind his idea more toxic than good



Hehe Tune so good.

Don't turn this into an Azrael/whoever vs Nihilum thing. I am only saying that there is no one that attempts to be a competing guild here for a reason.

Expecting people to form a guild that can mass and respond quicker to a repop every few months is beyond unrealistic.

Regular variance would apply those tactics every week, zone control, keeping trackers out, having stronger euro's, off times, mobilizing faster.

Expecting someone to build on those skills, for a repop that happens MONTHS apart is a joke, and really shouldn't be mentioned ever again.

[freez]

other than my 0 point kills I gave away yesterday chewie has more deaths last month - this month than I do on freez.

what does that say?


LOL

[Stasis01]

Empty box 90%, Stronger geared, and numbered hardcores 10% of the time.

Something doesn't seem right, sucks Sundawg probably saying everything is good in the ear of other devs.

I believe Sirken is a reasonable guy, but probably so out of touch with the state of box end game.

[big mouth chew]

thread title implies that this thread is about bluebie tears & lost dragons
thread content reveals its yet another chewie vs server thread
flame on ;)

[Stasis01]

I hate how people don't view this as an experimental project that can evolve to try to increase appeal, and population.

Chewie just so hardcore I guess, that crazy EQ badass.

[freez]

freez putting down chewie in 1 post = server aginst chewie


#lolkidyouarenotimportantpleaserelieveyourself

[Tune]

your "experiments" are just troll attempts to hurt the server

im hoping by now u've lost enough credibility that the gms stop listening

[heartbrand]

tune, you farm newbie players 24/7, and then talk about server health. cut the act.

[Retti_]

Make poll for devnoob and image server

I like those guys

[Twainz]

tune, you farm newbie players 24/7, and then talk about server health. cut the act.

Unless he thinks they are women irl. Then he powerlevels them, gives them epics and finds out they are dudes. Then tries to say he doesn't care that he got duped again.

[Tune]

tune, you farm newbie players 24/7, and then talk about server health. cut the act.

casual pvp here and there does not = farm.

trust me if i wanted to ruin some1s day i could make it my full time job

[Twainz]

casual pvp here and there does not = farm.

trust me if i wanted to ruin some1s day i could make it my full time job

Is that because you don't have a job? :D

[Tune]

seriously tho

you trolled the gms into announcing teams that did more harm than good.

Im all for teams if it came spontaneously.....

do the people a favor and stfu already u barely play

[Andis]

casual pvp here and there does not = farm.

trust me if i wanted to ruin some1s day i could make it my full time job

plays a bard since day 1

claims good at pvp lawls

[Tune]

if u want to do something constructive do what red dawn is doing , gains can be made

[Tune]

plays a bard since day 1

claims good at pvp lawls

i also never claimed to be anything

[Andis]

trust me if i wanted to ruin some1s day i could make it my full time job

[Tune]

failing to see how that claims i need to be good

[Retti_]

Tune top tier pvper. Knows is class and most mechanics better than majority because he researches, u r trolling if u don't agree. Even if he plays 8 days a week

[Andis]

wait refresh my memory tune

what happened when you logged into taarna or artax?

oh ya, died lolol

[heartbrand]

casual pvp here and there does not = farm.

trust me if i wanted to ruin some1s day i could make it my full time job

Tune Nihilum Joanah Red Dawn 3 Field of Bone [Level 52 Paladin Wearing Bronze]

Tune Nihilum Prplgrpz Flowers of Happiness 0 Guk [Level 52 necro in cloth armor, note 0 points because had been killed in last 10 minutes, possibly was naked @ time of kill]

Tune Nihilum Kergan 3 The City of Mist [Another level 52 player]

Tune Nihilum Stoopy Red Dawn 2 Field of Bone [Level 52 cleric in a bloodstained tunic]

Tune Nihilum Mooncricket Red Dawn 3 Dreadlands [Level 54 monk]


that's just one day of kills. dunno, I mean you call that pvp, shrug, it's a pvp server, it's not against the rules. I'm just saying, I don't personally view it as great for server health.

[freez]

casual pvp here and there does not = farm.

trust me if i wanted to ruin some1s day i could make it my full time job

is that why you and deka perma stunned me at bind till you could each split up kills getting points?

aka keeping me mezzed for 20 minutes to get those points.

that's some dedication bro

[Stasis01]

Tune #2 person invested in this system next to Nizzar.

I think you're really good, and won't have any problems with variance and will still be very successful, I just don't think this rule set allows for more than one guild, and that's shitty because it should be about growing a player base without straying far from calssic(matching the succesful blue idea).

[Sektor]

haha no way did this guy brag about being great/better than me and also cry about getting bindcamped in the same thread

lol chewies latest posts have been gold.

[freez]

lol was no bind camping, I was sitting at bind afk tabbed out when I got killed by 3 sharknado, they realized they were wasting their time after the first kill.

so I alt tab again and see im being chain mezzed and snared... for 20 minutes... with my hands off the keyboard lol

I thought It was genuinely a waste of their time so I didn't say anything or /q

[heartbrand]

I think Red Dawn will ultimately be able to contest WITH or WITHOUT variance. I'd like to make that clear. I just think variance would allow MULTIPLE guilds to potentially flourish and make the server as a whole more exciting by forcing people to log on more often than 3 hours once a week.

[Rust1d?]

What are the rules here for training? Is training allowed? If not, then there are rules on this server. Adding LnS rules and zone control may as well be added to make the game more fun instead of a grief and bind camp fest. Shit gets old quick bros.

[heartbrand]

This server desperately needs LnS rules.

[freez]

I think Red Dawn will ultimately be able to contest WITH or WITHOUT variance. I'd like to make that clear. I just think variance would allow MULTIPLE guilds to potentially flourish and make the server as a whole more exciting by forcing people to log on more often than 3 hours once a week.

I think nihilum would split or have a partial break off if they couldn't kill every high end mob in the game every Monday.

[Colgate]

What are the rules here for training? Is training allowed? If not, then there are rules on this server. Adding LnS rules and zone control may as well be added to make the game more fun instead of a grief and bind camp fest. Shit gets old quick bros.

if not in nihilum, train, get fraps'd, get suspended for 2+ weeks

if in nihilum, train, get fraps'd, GMs flip a coin, if heads, no problemo, if tails, the throwaway character gets suspended for 1 week while you log on your main every day

[Rust1d?]

So I do not understand why if there are rules for training why there are none for LnS and zone control. Zone control was what made VZTZ so much fun. You could pick a larger guild apart using hit and run and eventually gain control of the zone. Maybe they need more active guides in game...

[freez]

Tune Nihilum Freez 2 Field of Bone 12/4/2013 8:14:25 PM (afk)
Dekadenz Nihilum Freez 2 Field of Bone 12/4/2013 8:03:51 PM (afk)
Cyren Sharknado Freez 0 Field of Bone 12/4/2013 7:53:09 PM (afk)
Pyrokinetic Sharknado Freez 0 Field of Bone 12/4/2013 7:50:26 PM (afk)
Kilkur Sharknado Freez 0 Field of Bone 12/4/2013 7:48:44 PM (afk)
Pyrokinetic Sharknado Freez 3 Field of Bone 12/4/2013 7:48:02 PM (afk)
Dekadenz Nihilum Freez 2 The Nektulos Forest 12/4/2013 12:48:31 AM (chipp on freez)
Mask Nihilum Freez 3 The Emerald Jungle 12/3/2013 11:52:17 PM (chip on freez)


lol

[Rust1d?]

Damn lol

[Not_Kazowi]

VZTZ had a great rule in place to help smaller guilds. Zone control and LNS.

Basically once you died you had to leave the zone for an hour. Thus if a smaller guild could snipe people off, they could essentially have zone control at some point and/or prevent the larger guild from doing the mob if they had key players on LNS.

Currently the no rules shit just doesn't work. The LNS was also nice because it prevented just total griefing and encouraged a somewhat healthier atmosphere.

[Stasis01]

I have tried to get them to consider a forced guild LNS, if the guild leader of the losing side calls it, must be given etc.

Would be nice.

[heartbrand]

I have tried to get them to consider a forced guild LNS, if the guild leader of the losing side calls it, must be given etc.

Would be nice.

Pras

[freez]

I saw red dawn begging in ooc last night for lns after seb

no nihi spoke up

[Twainz]

I saw red dawn begging in ooc last night for lns after seb

no nihi spoke up

Nihilum cares.

[heartbrand]

I saw red dawn begging in ooc last night for lns after seb

no nihi spoke up

They dragged and rezzed all our corpses and granted it. Was a nice and appreciated move by Nihilum, that we will always grant in return as well. +1 for sportsmanship

[freez]

very interesting

[Holey]

other than my 0 point kills I gave away yesterday chewie has more deaths last month - this month than I do on freez.

what does that say?


LOL

scared of pvp?

[Andis]

Nihilum cares.

rofl

[Dullah]

u want variance but cant even get 1 mob on a full re-pop day

motives behind his idea more toxic than good

Exactly.

Completely transparent attempt to grief the dominant guild by making them keep trackers in every raid zone.

If you can't manage to get a guild guild together and fight when you know the mobs are going to spawn, you don't have a fucking chance with variance implemented.

[heartbrand]

i let red dawn lns last night and they killed a lowerlevel pal of mine on his own corpse run minutes later
live n learn namean

PM me name if possible, killing nakeds isn't allowed in red dawn [unless it's bind rushers like Candyman]

[Not_Kazowi]

Who the fuck is going to come fight your 50+ man raids on the day when EVERYTHING spawns at 4am? Be realistic dude. You guys want no variance because it would require more work for y'all.

Variance helps everyone not in Nihilum and would create pvp over raid mob. Instead of 60 people logging on raid day and going down the spawn list and logging off.

[Andis]

Who the fuck is going to come fight your 50+ man raids on the day when EVERYTHING spawns at 4am? Be realistic dude. You guys want no variance because it would require more work for y'all.

Variance helps everyone not in Nihilum and would create pvp over raid mob. Instead of 60 people logging on raid day and going down the spawn list and logging off.

omg pras rexx

never thought id say it

[Dullah]

http://i.imgur.com/1AsLfhA.png

This is the server you need to select before hitting the "Play Everquest" button.

[Bazia]

why didnt u quit after being banned on multiple toons

[DrNarcisse]

I love how Nihilum thinks variance will ruin the server. 90% of their guild never logs in unless its raid day then they're gone after 3 hours. With variance some smaller guilds might crop up to take on a few raid targets that get left over or missed. Players might quit Nihilum when they realize the commitment that Nizzar will want them to make (batphones at 4am for VS, then only 25 show up and 20 the next week and 15 the week after).

Sooner or later Nihilum will buckle under the weight of their own meat grinder and it will allow more non-zerg sized guilds to contend and fight over content. When you've recruited or have tried to recruit 99% of the level 60 population, you simply don't have anyone left to recruit.

So while Dullah and Tune cry about variance, the fact is anything that breaks up a guilld that fields 90% of the level 60 characters on the server in any way shape or form is good. Sure these players might like the ez mode Nihilum where they only have to log in 3 hours a week, but with variance wait til the batphones start coming at all hours of the day. Nihilum will die, the server will thrive. Get your pixel packages from Nizzar asap and gtfo and do your own thing :)

[Not_Kazowi]

I love how Nihilum thinks variance will ruin the server. 90% of their guild never logs in unless its raid day then they're gone after 3 hours. With variance some smaller guilds might crop up to take on a few raid targets that get left over or missed. Players might quit Nihilum when they realize the commitment that Nizzar will want them to make (batphones at 4am for VS, then only 25 show up and 20 the next week and 15 the week after).

Sooner or later Nihilum will buckle under the weight of their own meat grinder and it will allow more non-zerg sized guilds to contend and fight over content. When you've recruited or have tried to recruit 99% of the level 60 population, you simply don't have anyone left to recruit.

So while Dullah and Tune cry about variance, the fact is anything that breaks up a guilld that fields 90% of the level 60 characters on the server in any way shape or form is good. Sure these players might like the ez mode Nihilum where they only have to log in 3 hours a week, but with variance wait til the batphones start coming at all hours of the day. Nihilum will die, the server will thrive. Get your pixel packages from Nizzar asap and gtfo and do your own thing :)

Dude they already bat phone at all hours of the day. Shits way stupid. I was getting 10 texts a day until they took me off the list. I got back from Russia and had like 50 texts come in at once from an 8 day period.

[jeffd]

can't imagine logging into this server more than 1x/wk, let alone having it consume my life to the point of 50 txts/wk

will pray for ur souls pals

[jeffd]

the only eq related texts that are acceptable on mustard's phone are 3am drunk texts from pudge + smedy

[Rust1d?]

lol who the fuck logs in at like 4am for a raid? Unless the entire guild has no jobs and live with their parents...

On K&B I remember we had raids timed at 6pm but took like 4 people to kill.

[Twainz]

Dude they already bat phone at all hours of the day. Shits way stupid. I was getting 10 texts a day until they took me off the list. I got back from Russia and had like 50 texts come in at once from an 8 day period.

You're lucky Xico doesn't play. You would get the craziest french batphones at all hours of the day. 10 at a time lol. Miss Lamort.

[Not_Kazowi]

I don't know man. I never woke up to attend the raids lol. Made a few trak raids after work and that's about it. They also wanted to do full fear clears constantly and shit, it's insane.

Not dogging on them, we'll organized and they enjoy it but it's not for me at my point in life now. Too busy with work and fiancée

[freez]

oh man i just got trolled so hard
freez talkin bout points & kills & deaths & etc
got me to load up the leaderboard just to see

seriously dude? rank 1318?? on a 120 pop server?? almost 4 deaths for every victory?? time to stop posting

lol not sure if srs


cause u know my competition has full mr gear. what is a ***** to do but mez and pell?

whats your competition? and what do you use to fight said competition?


hahahahahhahahahahahha

[Retti_]

Wish raids were at 3 am again. Very peaceful w coffee.