View Full Version : What compels you to help/not help people?
Spoonerism
12-04-2013, 08:36 PM
I have been thinking about how I have been playing the game as of late. I find myself helping people more than I level. This is my own choice though, obviously i get some kind of entertainment out of it, otherwise I wouldn't do it.
I am not a rich p1999 player. I've been helped here and there, I have an 18 druid and 26 shadowknight. My PP total at any given moment will be between 50pp-200pp, never have more than that.
Yet, when I am in gfay on my lvl 18 druid or 26 sk, (Unrest/Mistmoore area) I give out PP here and there to new players for spells. Or give them the extra item I am not currently using. Sure it is only 5 and 10pp, but when you are poor, it is a lot, lol.
I will wander in Crushbone on my 26 SK and pull mobs for groups of lower levels, sometimes for up to an hour, just for the heck of it. Not sure what satisfaction I am getting, but somehow I am enjoying myself. I will also sit at Orc Lift, or Newb Lift, offering buffs for anyone who wants them, 30 minutes at a time if not more sometimes. I will offer to find anyone's body near Gfay too with my SK if they have lost it.
I will sit in EC on my druid, and SoW ANYONE, and EVERYONE. I mean, if I see you running, and you are slower than SoW speed, I will chase you down, get a good deal in front of you so that I can SoW you without you stopping (because sometimes people just don't pay attention and stop.) I don't expect a tip, I rarely get one and that is OK, I don't feel I am doing it trying to get money, but just to be helpful.
What compels me to do this? Am I getting some sort of satisfaction knowing that I am "making someone's day"? Or just "helping and making a difference"? I think that is why? But not exactly sure.
What about you guys? What compels you do pull for lowbs. Or give out PP or items? Or run around newb zones and buff people, handing out HP buffs, Mana Regen, HP regen, whatever!
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Let's flip the coin. What makes you not want to help? I understand druids/enchanters/wizards/clerics going anon so they aren't bugged for ports, clarity or what have you. But if you are just sitting there, selling items, why not give someone a buff if they are asking in local chat for some?
My main run-ins with this is in EC while I buff and attempt to sell my items no one seems to want, lol.
People asking for clarity, breeze, SoW, skin buff, what have you. There are tons of people just sitting there, or just randomly running around in circles, trying to sell their wares.
Why not just click 1 button to SoW/Breeze someone? Why just ignore them all? You have mana, you have the buff, you are just sitting there, why not simply move your hand less than an inch and click the button to help someone out?
I am not talking about giving out free items to beggars, or free PP to lowbs, I am mainly just talking about the buffage. I have not really had many 50/60s, so maybe I just am not "numb" or "tired of" buffing people yet, and perhaps when I do get that high I won't buff people either, (but I doubt it, my current main goal is to get to 29 so I can at least limitedly port people around! (and maybe make some coin doing it :P)
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So anyways, I am just curious!
snoopsonicx
12-04-2013, 08:38 PM
SUPREME BOREDOM!
Cecily
12-04-2013, 08:38 PM
Walls of text.
Aeaolena
12-04-2013, 08:43 PM
My best guess is the person might be ninja AFK.
I am really guilty of this. I ran upstairs to get my son who woke up from his nap just today, and came back into my office three hours later.. only to realize I was logged in sitting at the EC tunnel the entire time. I think I had my AFK tag up (at least.) :(
I know a few people who log into EC while tabbed out at work, so they can 'tab in' and check auctions.
Telin
12-04-2013, 08:46 PM
This is how I usually play. I enjoy helping others in Classic EQ because you actually can affect someone. Other games you can't buff or hand out gear that makes a difference to them due to all the restrictive fairness garbage.
mtb tripper
12-04-2013, 08:46 PM
I usually don't help ogres or trolls
Cecily
12-04-2013, 08:48 PM
Asked for a Robe of the Spring and ES BP simply so I could ninja buff low level players.
When I'm in EC,(on shaman main, usually), Im AFK 94.3% of the time, and checking back in every so often to check replies/shill more.. People ask for buffs constantly, and if they catch me at the right time, they get em. I rarely reply to buff requests because most of the time they run off before I get back to the comp..
Additionally, I'm more inclined to give more buffs to people if they aren't twinked..
picklefixer
12-04-2013, 08:53 PM
I've helped a shit-ton of peeps here and there...given away lots of relatively good noobie items and who knows how much pp, mainly to counter balance all the help i never received on live.
I'm out.
Mrtwig
Samoht Farstrider
12-04-2013, 08:57 PM
I don't mind helping people, just not the beggars. I barely have any plats and my enchanter is still wearing cloth with a +7 CHA and a Rod of something at level 17 that a druid gave me for selling him 50 bear skins so he could do leather paddings for tradeskills.
I got to level 16 last week and have been casting breeze on every person who can use it everywhere I go. It feels nice when someone thanks you for it.
mtb tripper
12-04-2013, 09:04 PM
I agree with mrtwigs, I believe the world is a better place with donations to those who are already receiving government support
Lojik
12-04-2013, 09:18 PM
Depends on how much pp they give me
I like to have fun here.
I help others because i enjoy it and i hope it makes their experience more enjoyable.
Some folks are shit bags and suck at life.
They cant step up and take control.
They play shit bags in game cause it makes them feel good.
This is all.
Jimjam
12-04-2013, 09:23 PM
I'm logging on now to look for young sk/wars in innothule swamp to help :D
Sadre Spinegnawer
12-04-2013, 09:27 PM
As a child, me and the warren of feral deer that I lived with foraged for food daily. No one helped us; we didn't ask for any help.
One year, a hunter shot and killed the mother of one of the young fauns. No one cared; the hunter was pretty proud of himself in fact. All of us in the warren were shocked, traumatized for the rest of our days.
I still remember.
I'll help people from time to time, but it's a hard and cold world out there. It's hard to get over what I've seen.
baalzy
12-04-2013, 09:48 PM
I enjoy collecting random 'trash' gear while farming/xp'ing and giving it away (guess I should say I did, I'm currently broke as a joke and leveling a new character/farming passable equipment). Find some random noob war in gfay and giving them an axe of the iron back + treeweave is fun.
Swish
12-04-2013, 09:51 PM
Simply put... karma!
How much have you yourselves been helped when leveling up your first toon? Chances are you had some help from someone somewhere along the line. The further you go dressed in your starter gear? The more likely someone is to help you out.
That goes for the red server too, but nobody would dare admit it happens there :p
because it nurtures my superiority complex
fishingme
12-04-2013, 10:10 PM
a 1000 plat can't do me any good, can do a whole lotta good split up for 10 different lowbies in gfay.
Yumyums Inmahtumtums
12-04-2013, 10:21 PM
It's simply rewarding. I was once told to go back to Halas and remind the young ones they aren't forgotten. I have sent numerous people on this journey.
Do some pulls for people. My fun times lately has been to take some folks (14-20) all they downstairs in befallen. That place is deserted and has a sick zem.
mishurza
12-04-2013, 10:31 PM
Pay it forward.
When I first started on the server I got a ton of fat hookups: PP for spells, an FBR, braided cinch cord, gator scale sleeves, and a full set of cha jewelry. All of this from total strangers.
I do my best to return the favor now that I'm established. There are tons of pieces of gear that go unused because they aren't BIS but they are 100 times better than any gear a newbie can get.
Pullyn
12-04-2013, 11:01 PM
I do it for shits and giggles, karma, etc. Also its nice to have what I percieve as a good reputation. I hate sitting in EC trying to sell stuff, sometimes its easier to just hand it out. I often pass stuff down to people that I inspect that look like they could use it. Getting shit housed during a sky raid on a Friday also helps, I've probably given away over 7k doing that here and there on random Fridays.
webrunner5
12-05-2013, 12:22 AM
As a child, me and the warren of feral deer that I lived with foraged for food daily. No one helped us; we didn't ask for any help.
One year, a hunter shot and killed the mother of one of the young fauns. No one cared; the hunter was pretty proud of himself in fact. All of us in the warren were shocked, traumatized for the rest of our days.
I still remember.
I'll help people from time to time, but it's a hard and cold world out there. It's hard to get over what I've seen.
You need MORE help than anyone ever thought on here. Wow. :o
Kutsumo
12-05-2013, 12:43 AM
I help people when they're friendly, considerate, and especially when they don't ask for it or expect it.
username17
12-05-2013, 01:27 AM
I enjoy helping newbies because I was helped when I was a newbie and I remember how it felt.
I don't give out coin though. I primarily give out buffs (Shaman) and any newbie items I might happen to have at the time.
For example; I commonly kill targashin in FoB and give the mask to a random monk in the zone.
ripwind
12-05-2013, 10:10 AM
When I first started out Anleus hooked me and two of my friends up after finding out we were new players. I believe Etzio gave my bard, Romp, her first Lambent pieces at Orc 1 in EC.
I bet since then I've given away 40-50k in plat/gear to random players. Whenever I find good deals on nice lowbie stuff in the tunnel I snatch it so I can give it away guilt-free to some poor soul. If I over-pay the capitalist in me dies.
It's a blast giving legit new players gear. Things like weapons, hp rings, buffs, etc. make such a huge difference in the early game. A while back Tacite told me about doing bard pulls for lowbies fighting at the Kurn's entrance. Ever since, any time I'm near FoB, I run out there with my bard and do the same and try to give some stuff away, too.
skorge
12-05-2013, 10:28 AM
I usually hand out cloak of flames and fungi tunics to noobs when i get bored
webrunner5
12-05-2013, 11:08 AM
That is one thing I like about CoM is there is a ton of good weapons that drop there that I give to noobs. And on my Druid in the tunnel I always give out full buffs for those that ask. I never go annon in the tunnel.
Like it has been said everyone has been helped out at one time or another in this game.
Twainz
12-05-2013, 11:09 AM
Its hard to give out gear to noobs on red unless you find them with stuff on you. Most people are to afraid to meet with you from fear of being killed. I had to chase a bard through freeport to try and give him a couple k on my lvl 1 banker. The guy continued to run away and said he might take donations next time. Needless to say, I was sad that he was afraid to take my money because of PvP.
myxomatosii
12-05-2013, 11:55 AM
The power of Christ.
But no. I still remember getting 200p on my first char, a lv 17 shaman in Innothule from a stranger. I still remember getting 50p the day before. I got given full banded armor. Eventually a friend I was lvling up with Sunnyvale, bought me a full set of wis gear for like <1k. At the time I thought I was in extreme debt and thankful for the stats but eventually I started making money and started paying it forward to new players.
I gave away that 17/30 sword from seb yesterday to a lvl 6 pal using a rusty 2hs, basically just because why not. Anything under 1k I probably won't sell anyway so I usually just give it away. In groups I always pick up items that are passed or rotted for the express purpose of finding someone who can use it.
Rararboker
12-05-2013, 04:21 PM
Entertainment.
I'll help out new players occasionally with pp or items I've found in higher Kunark zones.
I'll also sit and watch you die to a named mob without supplying assistance.
So basically, don't rely on me for anything unless we are grouped, guilded, or already friends.
Dirtnap
12-05-2013, 06:19 PM
When I find gear I don't need I will usually hunt someone down who does need it. I was in a throne group in Crushbone on my paladin and we got several Dwarven Ringmail/ Dwarven Axe drops.
I ran around Gfay/Butcherblock looking for newbies to give them to. I always hold onto the patchwork you get from CB belts and give those to people as well.
I'll usually put the patchwork into bags, and give the whole bags and some PP.
Dalven
12-05-2013, 06:30 PM
The fact that somebody gave me 10pp for spells and a set of banded on my first day on the server inspired me to help folk - I know how chuffed I was when I got that stuff so I enjoy paying it forward, even if it is just minor shit like overpaying for CB belts.
Freakish
12-05-2013, 06:31 PM
I DMF people on the nec as long as I don't have to run to them. I rarely buff on the cleric because the buffs that they want I keep on page 40. Resolution is not a spell that a lvl 60 cleric casts much. Symbols cost a peridot + a lot of mana so I normally don't do them.
Totally spur of the moment. Sometimes i'll go and give group hero+symbol to every group in CoM. Sometimes i'll ignore rez requests and log out because i'm tired of playing EQ.
I do tend to toss out gear under 200p because I just can't be bothered to sell it and I can see someone would use it.
Claax
12-05-2013, 06:54 PM
Schfifty PL'd me and gave me plat when I was more of a newb than I am now, for no reason other than being nice. A guy named Risenin who I haven't seen around in a long time bought me fighting batons in EC when I was lvl 13 and Wiggles resed me countless times in Sol A.
These guys are big reasons why I help people out.
Sickle
12-05-2013, 07:35 PM
I am a fond believer of paying it forward. I remember someone handing out 100pp to any lowbies in EC tunnel the first week I started. I do the same about once a month, I go to orc camp in EC and if anyone is in cloth/leather/banded I just hand them 100-200pp and wish them well.
Even just splitting a orc or derv camp to help out the lowbies makes a world of difference for them and their attitude towards the server and community as a whole.
I also have met some of the people I have known the longest on this server from helping them in way or another. I know I befriended at least 20+ bard/Rogues in getting them their DE mask in Lguk.
zanderklocke
12-05-2013, 07:36 PM
I click people for fun with instant DS shield vambraces.
Sometimes I give stuff away.
I like to hang out at Orc 1 and AE snare all the mobs because it's my favorite camp in game.
I do it all because I want someone to make a forum thread about how great I am on the forums. ;)
Freakish
12-05-2013, 08:12 PM
Instant DA shield vambraces sounds mean. Way to kill the clerics off.
Acrux Bcrux
12-05-2013, 08:48 PM
One day i decided to run over to the orc camp to help the newbies out while hanging out in ec. Someone posted pics on the forums accusing me of 2boxing for no reason at all. After that, I try not to help many newbies. Guildies or players that i know i have no problem helping at all.
Ahldagor
12-05-2013, 10:50 PM
i like throwing on Ds's on lowbies in fob on my druid. all the marauders must pay for my shaman's death.
Jimjam
12-06-2013, 11:04 AM
In the past I'd sometimes log in just to help people when I was feeling alone at night. It was nice just to feel appreciated by someone who could have been half a globe away.
webrunner5
12-07-2013, 10:41 AM
I do it all because I want someone to make a forum thread about how great I am on the forums. ;)
You win a cookie. Great job. Keep up the good work. :p
Tasslehofp99
12-07-2013, 10:54 AM
I help those that help themselves.
Vandy
12-07-2013, 11:25 AM
The power of Christ compels you !
Spoonerism
12-07-2013, 11:59 AM
I am glad to see that people enjoy helping! I enjoy being helped, and enjoy helping. Helps make the server a more positive place and might keep more people playing rather than turning them away.
Every new caster likes to have a few PP for spells, or perhaps some buffs to get them through the 1-5 lvls real quick!
I know we all enjoy the classic experience, but as I told the new players I was buffing/giving a few PP in Rivervale/Misty Thicket last night who told me "I want the classic experience, thanks for the offer though", is that me helping you IS the classic experience.
I mean I didn't go bananas and give them 1000plat or some high dollar item, I just was giving them 10pp for spells/bags and such and throwing the low level druid buffs I had on them. (There were 3 separate instances of peolpe not wanting help, I found it interesting, but eventually they took the 5-10pp anyways, and when I buffed them, they didn't remove the buffs :P)
People buffing people, people giving helping out new players with a peice of armor/weapon or two, maybe a some PP. That IS classic, people helping people.
At least in my experience. When I first started playing EQ in 99/00, right after Kunark came out but a little before Velious, I was shown the ropes by a Dwarf, who gave me a Dwarven Ringmail tunic, fine steel weapon, made some leather armor for me, and gave me some PP. (Also showed me to Kaladim to turn in belts and such.)
So..people helping people is classic! At least to me... lol
sanforce
12-07-2013, 05:21 PM
Having 800k or so in items and a decent amount of plat lying around compels me to go out of my way and hook someone up about once a month. That or I will just spend time helping someone with a quest, mob kill, etc. Helping random people is just part of the game for me (sometimes). However, I generally like to /friend people after meeting them and giving them items. It sucks when you never see that name show up again on your friends list.
zanderklocke
12-07-2013, 05:41 PM
Instant DA shield vambraces sounds mean. Way to kill the clerics off.
Haha just noticed I out DA instead of DS.
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