View Full Version : To elderan ... continued leaderboard convo
Last post before the rollback I believe, was you saying you presently did not have the data available necessary to put more detail into the point award system. Correct me if I am wrong..
anyways. I think as it presently stands we are all in agreement that someone that just entered level 52 and a lvl 60 decked out in VP gear should not award the same amount of points. Clearly you do not have the data available to determine the level of the person that died, but given the fact that this server has such a small population. Would it be hard to have a counter running for every individual's name enters the leader board.
As it stands I guess that's how it currently works, however the timer for how the player is valued operates on a 10 minute timer. How about expanding that timer and having the formula also be impacted by said individual's KD ratio and other obviously relevant factors.
Someone whose last 5 entries over the last 24 hours into the leaderboard have been deaths, should probably be worth 0 points for the following few days or so. Where as someone who has a 9-1 kill to death ratio should probably yield 5 points on their first death, and following that their yield amount should go down.
I know that modifying the code to change the formula is not as simplistic as i present it, and i am sure its time consuming. I am happy to have a leader board at all. The only reason I bring about this conversation is because you seem very passionate about the server and am certain you'd like your leader board to represent the best possible data.
perhaps some polls for the community to vote on how they think points should be awarded could take care of some of the decision making work.
Elderan
12-03-2013, 04:42 PM
Last post before the rollback I believe, was you saying you presently did not have the data available necessary to put more detail into the point award system. Correct me if I am wrong..
anyways. I think as it presently stands we are all in agreement that someone that just entered level 52 and a lvl 60 decked out in VP gear should not award the same amount of points. Clearly you do not have the data available to determine the level of the person that died, but given the fact that this server has such a small population. Would it be hard to have a counter running for every individual's name enters the leader board.
As it stands I guess that's how it currently works, however the timer for how the player is valued operates on a 10 minute timer. How about expanding that timer and having the formula also be impacted by said individual's KD ratio and other obviously relevant factors.
Someone whose last 5 entries over the last 24 hours into the leaderboard have been deaths, should probably be worth 0 points for the following few days or so. Where as someone who has a 9-1 kill to death ratio should probably yield 5 points on their first death, and following that their yield amount should go down.
I know that modifying the code to change the formula is not as simplistic as i present it, and i am sure its time consuming. I am happy to have a leader board at all. The only reason I bring about this conversation is because you seem very passionate about the server and am certain you'd like your leader board to represent the best possible data.
perhaps some polls for the community to vote on how they think points should be awarded could take care of some of the decision making work.
Originally I had a more complex system in place. But people I showed it to did not like it. So I changed it to the simple system it has now. I would love to give points based on level but I cannot possibly keep track of the players level when the kill happened. yes the 60s are easy but people leveling are not.
Right now I am holding off changing the scoring system because something might be coming which I am not sure I can talk about here. But once I have more clarity on that I will then make changes.
I think the only real available data that you are able to plug into a formula and trace, is kill death ratios . Which have a general correlation with the level of the person and skill of the player. Regardless, thanks again and am glad to hear changes are coming.
heartbrand
12-03-2013, 04:49 PM
Remove the leaderboard, stop the toxic atmosphere on server, thx ur pal savior of server pop HB
Agatha
12-03-2013, 05:17 PM
Remove the leaderboard, stop the toxic atmosphere on server, thx ur pal savior of server pop HB
Retti_
12-03-2013, 05:20 PM
Can u summarize the OP into 1 fragment sentence and/or gif plz
Langrisserx
12-03-2013, 05:26 PM
maybe it could be voluntary, would people be willing to list their levels on the board somewhere... i mean, yea that gives the other guild advantage but who cares they been here for so long they not interested in pvp just loot
Silikten
12-03-2013, 05:45 PM
Just make it so only level 60 are worth points. That is how vztz was.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....
that actually does not sound like a bad idea at all. Just like in wow arena or other competitive games. You don't get to really compete in the arena season till you are max level. haven't given it enough thought, but this sounds like a pretty damn good idea.
Can't be having no lvl 43 gladiators.
Nirgon
12-03-2013, 05:51 PM
Who are the people who appoint you for things or that you showed this to that didn't like it one way or another? LUL
Great tool for GMs to use because they can see through anon. I'm sure its lvl 52-55s with 0 kills, 20+ deaths. 4 lvl range son.
DrNarcisse
12-03-2013, 06:57 PM
yellow text should be removed it promotes griefing, which ruined red99
Nah I'd say the lone GM accepting personal donations and the lone admin banning the entire top guild on the server ruined red99 :)
Kergan
12-04-2013, 01:17 PM
I think your goal was to make the leaderboard track more actual PVP battle kills rather than some lonely newb like me getting ganked in CoM by the same 3 people 5 times a day?
If so I think a change to a +/- 4 level range instead of 8 would alleviate a lot of that.
iiNGloriouS
12-04-2013, 01:24 PM
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....
Can't be having no lvl 43 gladiators.
Talkin' shit bout The Illuminati *****? We only harbor lvl 35-45 gladiators. BotB yknaw?
jeffd
12-04-2013, 05:05 PM
Can u summarize the OP into 1 fragment sentence and/or gif plz
lite cares 2 much abt a pvp board nobody but him cares abt on a dead 50 person server
heartbrand
12-04-2013, 05:07 PM
lite cares 2 much abt a pvp board nobody but him cares abt on a dead 50 person server
Bazia
12-05-2013, 12:39 AM
i enjoyed the board
i mean most people dont like dying because of it and there has to be some sting with the exp loss removed
SamwiseRed
12-05-2013, 12:58 AM
leaderboard and YT are entertaining, why would you take that away?
jeffd
12-05-2013, 01:42 PM
sz and rz had leaderboards
unconvinced u played classic eq
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