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renegadeofunk
11-24-2013, 12:50 AM
The search function won't allow the word 'duo' because it's too short, so here we are. If we're talking about endgame boss-level mobs what is the strongest duo for taking them down?

davedeck42
11-24-2013, 01:08 AM
enc/cleric, enc/sham, mage/cleric, monk/sham, depending where you are throw in druid or necro with those other combos and it gets even more ridiculous depending on what you can charm.

SamwiseRed
11-24-2013, 01:20 AM
paladin paladin

Clark
11-24-2013, 01:51 AM
Ench/Cleric | Ench/Sham | Monk/Shaman some of the best like dave said above. Even Ench/Druid is pretty strong.

Ciel
11-24-2013, 02:08 AM
Shm+SK

Swish
11-24-2013, 02:28 AM
This thread is akin to logging into WoW (trolls more easily spotted in EQ) and saying, "what's the best class in WoW? is it a warlock?"

...and starting off a 20 minute discussion/flame fest :D

Cleric/Enchanter is something I've done and loved a lot :)

Fregar
11-24-2013, 03:58 AM
What's the deal with cleric/ench?

Hasted pet, and cleric heal/stun in case of problem?

Andervin
11-24-2013, 05:00 AM
Ench/Druid ports are just too convenient

Menemas
11-24-2013, 05:33 AM
What's the deal with cleric/ench?

Hasted pet, and cleric heal/stun in case of problem?

Charmed, dual wielding, hasted pet. 8-10k hp Complete heals from cleric. Chanter CC abilities, cleric heals/stuns/roots and REZ for when things go bad.

Bazia
11-24-2013, 05:41 AM
enc/enc

/thread

Greegon
11-24-2013, 06:01 AM
naw

naw

Greegon
11-24-2013, 06:01 AM
necro with a rogue/monk real good

Cecily
11-24-2013, 06:56 AM
Nec / Rog or Dru / Rog is pretty nice. The druid combo is more mana efficient, but necro pets a good bit of dps. Nec / Mag / Rog is my favorite trio so far. 2 pet classes and 3 pets = win.

Relictor
11-24-2013, 08:05 AM
sk + shaman
godmode

Brut
11-24-2013, 08:29 AM
Shm + sk/monk.

Think monk moreso come Velious.

Clark
11-24-2013, 08:32 AM
Charmed, dual wielding, hasted pet. 8-10k hp Complete heals from cleric. Chanter CC abilities, cleric heals/stuns/roots and REZ for when things go bad.

Hero/Ac/Symbol/+40 sv all too :)

webrunner5
11-24-2013, 09:45 AM
High end 50 + on God Mobs Enchanter/Cleric. 50 Lower is Monk/Shaman.

He asked about endgame boss-level mobs. No SK or Pally has enough DPS to Duo that stuff. DPS is not really their job.

BattleToad
11-24-2013, 10:21 AM
What pairs best with a Bard?

webrunner5
11-24-2013, 11:24 AM
What pairs best with a Bard?

The problem with a Bard is they just can't heal enough to Duo with endgame boss-level mobs. And also there is VERY few really good Bards on here anymore. It is hard as hell to play one hour after hour twisting. And they don't really have the time to be social in a group with twisting so why be in one.

But below level 50 I would say Bard/Monk. Bind Wound and Mend is the only way they can survive. Sure aren't going to heal a Warrior.

I know dirty word but they really need to add Melody on P1999. There is just so few Bards in groups anymore it is scary.

Enxienty
11-24-2013, 11:30 AM
It also depends greatly which expansion your referring to whether its kunark or velious. I think in velious im not really sure the best duo is Monk / Shaman

HeallunRumblebelly
11-24-2013, 11:49 AM
Enc/Shm, hands down. Bonus points if they've got a pair of puppet strings--adds quite a bit to the duo :P

Efwan
11-24-2013, 01:51 PM
How has noone said Pal/Ench yet?!

orsk
11-24-2013, 02:12 PM
War/War

renegadeofunk
11-24-2013, 02:18 PM
Thank you all! I think it's pretty much down to enc/shm or enc/clr for me. Cleric has high hp buffs, rez and infinite pet healing with CH and c2. Shaman has slow/sow and powerful dots but kind of requires Torpor at the high end. Tough choice.

Secondary question -- does charming in Velious get much more annoying because I hear everything has high MR? Are there still some lower MR ones to charm in each dungeon?

Elements
11-24-2013, 03:02 PM
BP cleric + warrior.

Pint
11-24-2013, 03:26 PM
How has noone said Pal/Ench yet?!

BP cleric + warrior.

both underrated duos

Elements
11-24-2013, 03:40 PM
The search function won't allow the word 'duo' because it's too short, so here we are. If we're talking about endgame boss-level mobs what is the strongest duo for taking them down?

When you say end-game boss level mobs, do you mean named mobs in dungeons usually meant for groups? or raid-level boss mobs?

Lojik
11-24-2013, 03:50 PM
When you say end-game boss level mobs, do you mean named mobs in dungeons usually meant for groups? or raid-level boss mobs?

Raid-level boss mobs usually meant for groups

Tikker
11-24-2013, 03:57 PM
best duo is shaman/rogue imo

shaman SK is close, but not enough DPS for certain things

Gecko
11-24-2013, 04:13 PM
The search function won't allow the word 'duo' because it's too short, so here we are. If we're talking about endgame boss-level mobs what is the strongest duo for taking them down?

I'm not 100% sure what you mean by endgame boss-level mobs. I see that I think 'raid level' force. I also thing things are very situational. In HS, a good Necromancer is generally better than an Enchanter. In OS, it's the opposite.

I think the strongest endgame duo is probably 60 Enchanter + 60 Shaman for overall capability, especially if the Shaman has a few puppet strings. I think for farming Shaman + Rogue is the most efficient.

renegadeofunk
11-24-2013, 05:05 PM
I don't mean raid level necessarily, just dungeon bosses.

Teppler
11-24-2013, 06:20 PM
Necro/Necro for high level exp. Necro/Chanter for high level mobs. :D

Vicatin
11-24-2013, 09:03 PM
Ench/Shaman

dustysr06
11-24-2013, 09:28 PM
clr/ench IMO

cant go wrong with melee/sham either tho generally speaking

Splorf22
11-25-2013, 12:31 AM
shm/cle

both with strings

Clark
11-25-2013, 03:02 AM
BP cleric + warrior.

Ah yes classic, admirable combo

SamwiseRed
11-25-2013, 03:08 AM
superman and goku

Grubbz
11-25-2013, 06:07 AM
White Ranger and Green Ranger............. O Wait.......

Coolname
11-25-2013, 02:47 PM
BP cleric + warrior.


^that

Andervin
11-25-2013, 07:33 PM
The consensus seems to be enc/* :D

webrunner5
11-26-2013, 10:34 AM
A enchanter and a Shaman are really the 2 top solo classes on P1999 high end. But I still don't think they are the 2 BEST choices as a Duo. I think they have a lot of the same spell lines that overlap.

A Cleric brings CH and high HP buffs. Their heals are a LOT more mana efficient. Plus they have some pretty good Direct damage spells. Especially to Undead. Rez helps also. You know you are going to die every one in awhile doing high end dungeons.

But either way a Enchanter HAS to be in the mix for what the OP was asking about.

Tecmos Deception
11-26-2013, 11:05 AM
Realistically, shaman+enchanter have no detrimental overlap.

Yes yes, they both can slow and charisma buff and root and do a few of the same debuffs. But these overlaps are good things, not bad things.

It is a good thing that the shaman is the main slower (better slow, better able to handle aggro after a resist). It is a good thing that you have two people to try to slow very resistant targets. It is a good thing to have stacking MR debuffs for pets and very resistant targets. It is a good thing to have more charisma on the chanter. It is a good thing to have two classes who can root instead of just one.

The only overlap that isn't good isn't bad either, because the debuff spells like cripple don't get used anyways.

Elements
11-26-2013, 11:35 AM
Depending on the specific targets you want to do it will end up being bp cleric + warrior or enchanter+cleric/shaman