Velious Prep

[Salem Orchid]

Red Dawn will disband and any members that made it past the 50+ grind will join Nihilum, including Checkraise.

[heartbrand]

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Velious Status: Ready

[Fame]

Red Dawn will disband and any members that made it past the 50+ grind will join Nihilum, including Checkraise.

http://www.gifcrap.com/g2data/albums/Celebrities/Nicolas%20Cage%20laughing%20like%20a%20mad%20man.g if

[Tassador]

It's obvious feeder clan anti pvp. So glad nihilum won those guys deserve it!

[Holey]

imagine, during pvp, run into a yeti cave.
thats a bright idea, lets run into a cave where theres a dead end!

[Retti_]

imagine, during pvp, run into a yeti cave.
thats a bright idea, lets run into a cave where theres a dead end!

Lold

[Andis]

imagine, during pvp, run into a yeti cave.
thats a bright idea, lets run into a cave where theres a dead end!

I wasnt there for this.

clearly.

[Vile]

i'll never join nilly sorry brew pal

[Eslade]

Red Dawn will disband and any members that made it past the 50+ grind will join Nihilum, including Checkraise.

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[Smedy]

Smedy will be ready for velious either way, i have planted my seeds in both guilds ready to consume whatever pixels are left for me to consume when velious comes out

May the pixel frenzy begin

[Tassador]

I won't deny it I'ma straight ridda you don't want to fuck with me.

[Junkman]

imagine, during pvp, run into a yeti cave.
thats a bright idea, lets run into a cave where theres a dead end!

yeti


















































































cave

[Smedy]

i like to shout "INTO THE YETI CAVES" in teamspeak when we about to leave as guild to pvp, not sure if lite has ever caught on to it, but i do it almost every time

so many people jabbering simultaneously

[Salem Orchid]

Welcome, Devastation, to Nihilum!

[heartbrand]

Welcome, Devastation, to Nihilum!

You realize Devastation, is not Devastatian, the latter being a Red Dawn member.

[Retti_]

http://i.imgur.com/9zZJv.gif

[Salem Orchid]

/ooc told me it was true

[k9quaint]

You realize Devastation, is not Devastatian, the latter being a Red Dawn member.

I made that mistake too.

[s1ckness]

How is azrael talking shout about red dawn, nilly future apps? they been the cannon fodders for nihilum the last year+. Azrael needs a change in leadership i think so someone can make better calls .

[s1ckness]

shit*

[Retti_]

Refused to give Chopper aon click in mass pvp cus HB had info.

Gives Basia aon click entire server has info.

Leadership.

[s1ckness]

dont really care about that,

azrael only shot and doing something on the server was to form some kinda of alliance with red dawn but the leadership is retarded in azrael

[Salem Orchid]

Here's what the lite core who is paranoid to the point of paralysis and has lost members booting "spies" doesn't get. There's literally nothing worth spying over on this server and no matter what you do whatever you're doing will still get leaked anyway.

[Retti_]

http://mashable.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Inglorious-Bastards.gif

[vouss]

bump

[vouss]

How is azrael talking shout about red dawn, nilly future apps? they been the cannon fodders for nihilum the last year+

azrael only shot and doing something on the server was to form some kinda of alliance with red dawn but the leadership is retarded in azrael

[Greegon]

salem? aren't you in az atm?

[vouss]

Red Dawn will disband and any members that made it past the 50+ grind will join Nihilum, including Checkraise.

[Andis]

velious prep by heartbrand

"suck as much nihi dick as possible, they let us get draco!"

[heartbrand]

Didn't realize Venril Sathir was draco

[Andis]

Didn't realize Venril Sathir was draco

only mob RD can do is fay, which you did. Then you cleared fear for nihi, they gave you draco (lolol) and they took CT

[heartbrand]

Didn't realize Venril Sathir was draco

[Andis]

suck that D

[vouss]

Didn't realize Draco was VS lul.

[Colgate]

i remember when red dawn had their own identity

[LulzSect]

http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/bundys_popcorn.gif

[heartbrand]

ya shud totally just follow Lite, he has proven 2 be a successful leader. being a feeder guild for AZ will surely lead to big things.

[fiegi 8.0]

the back and forth on this server is hard to keep up with

some days lite and hb pals, some days they at war

same for hb and nizzar

[Colgate]

ya shud totally just follow Lite, he has proven 2 be a successful leader. being a feeder guild for AZ will surely lead to big things.

never said that

i just was referring to the time when red dawn was the guild that "did their own thing" separate from all other guilds

[vouss]

Or you could just be your own guild

[LulzSect]

http://persephonemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/indiana-jones-popcorn.gif

[Andis]

never said that

i just was referring to the time when red dawn was the guild that "did their own thing" separate from all other guilds

STUMPED

[HippoNipple]

never said that

i just was referring to the time when red dawn was the guild that "did their own thing" separate from all other guilds

Well I guess RD had 1 choice, which side to not fight and they chose to not fight Nihilum. Either way they wouldn't be doing their own thing I guess as you put it. You already said if they allied with you then afterwards Azrael would have slaughtered them so it looks like they took the less painful road this time.

I haven't put in enough time lately to know what HBs plan is going forward but I would assume he would have rather denied Nihlum of all pixels if he could at the same time provide some for his guild but as you made it clear siding with Azrael would mean no pixels for RD.

Who knows though, it looks like some distance has grown between Azrael and RD since I last logged in due to some disagreements on how things should be run.

If you are going to wonder what HB will do in the future it is pretty clear if you think about it. He is trying to build a new guild and his members are starved for exp/pixels. Coming away with nothing is demoralizing and can hurt the guild.

If you are trying to legitimately build a guild up on red99 you don't have a choice a lot of times on what action to take. HB doesn't need pixels personally. He has to do what he thinks will build up his guild long term. He can't make a selfish move to get revenge one night.

[vouss]

Declaring KoS on Azrael and allying with Nihilum without asking any of his guild about it was a pretty selfish move!

[vouss]

Note, KoS was declared before we showed up in Plane of Fear

[Colgate]

i think the 35-40 red dawn that were there had a decent shot at winning a pvp fight against our 23 man force and then they would take every raid mob for themselves

it's funny that they would rather hand pixels directly to the guild that has been farming them with an iron fist for over a year and has done everything in their power to ensure that they're the only guild that gets to play on the server at a raid level, not to mention just a week or two prior heartbrand was making a big case on the forums about how the leader/core-members of said guild all were telling him to "burn to death in an oven" among other remarks of antisemitism on the forums

[Colgate]

Note, KoS was declared before we showed up in Plane of Fear

this too

[Colgate]

[Sun Feb 16 17:26:02 2014] You say, 'so server repopped?'
[Sun Feb 16 17:26:07 2014] Chopper says, 'yeah'
[Sun Feb 16 17:26:10 2014] You say, 'wut u guys goin 4'
[Sun Feb 16 17:26:13 2014] Chopper says, 'doin trak'
[Sun Feb 16 17:26:15 2014] Chopper says, 'if we can'
[Sun Feb 16 17:26:17 2014] You say, 'o'
[Sun Feb 16 17:26:17 2014] Chopper says, 'need people'
[Sun Feb 16 17:26:25 2014] You say, 'you guys workin with azrael?'
[Sun Feb 16 17:26:27 2014] Checkraise says, 'no'
[Sun Feb 16 17:26:27 2014] Chopper says, 'no'
[Sun Feb 16 17:26:29 2014] Checkraise says, 'azrael kos'
[Sun Feb 16 17:26:44 2014] Chopper invites you to join a group.
[Sun Feb 16 17:26:44 2014] To join the group, click on the 'FOLLOW' option, or 'DISBAND' to cancel.
[Sun Feb 16 17:26:48 2014] You notify Chopper that you agree to join the group.
[Sun Feb 16 17:27:39 2014] You say, 'idk wut 2 do'
[Sun Feb 16 17:27:43 2014] You say, 'azrael wants me 2 help them'
[Sun Feb 16 17:27:47 2014] You say, 'u guys want me 2 help u'
[Sun Feb 16 17:27:49 2014] Checkraise says, '?'
[Sun Feb 16 17:27:51 2014] Checkraise says, 'never asked u 2 help'

this was right after the message went out that the server was going to repop the raid mobs

[Not_Kazowi]

Who cares really? Like a middle school dance in here with all the drama. Just pick a side and stick with it, pvp get loots have fun.

HB has helped a lot of people including myself so I'm paying my homage to him and the rest of RD that didn't already jump ship.

Just a game bros, make sure you're having fun or you need to probably stop playing.

[LulzSect]

http://i.imgur.com/J0N47u9.gif

[lite]

Who cares really? Like a middle school dance in here with all the drama. Just pick a side and stick with it, pvp get loots have fun.

HB has helped a lot of people including myself so I'm paying my homage to him and the rest of RD that didn't already jump ship.

Just a game bros, make sure you're having fun or you need to probably stop playing.

[heartbrand]

i think the 35-40 red dawn that were there had a decent shot at winning a pvp fight against our 23 man force and then they would take every raid mob for themselves

it's funny that they would rather hand pixels directly to the guild that has been farming them with an iron fist for over a year and has done everything in their power to ensure that they're the only guild that gets to play on the server at a raid level, not to mention just a week or two prior heartbrand was making a big case on the forums about how the leader/core-members of said guild all were telling him to "burn to death in an oven" among other remarks of antisemitism on the forums

We had zero chance at CT. If we beat azrael we would then have to deal with nihilum after having to cr our dead, many of whom prolly would have had their timers expire, rebuff, oom, etc. You think between those two guilds there wouldn't be seventy five Cazic DT cycles set off and eight hours of fighting? Our guild was composed of plenty of lowbies as well. I took the path of least resistance to ensure a victory. I play conservative. Sorry if that's not the choice some of you would have liked.

[Colgate]

We had zero chance at CT. If we beat azrael we would then have to deal with nihilum after having to cr our dead, many of whom prolly would have had their timers expire, rebuff, oom, etc. You think between those two guilds there wouldn't be seventy five Cazic DT cycles set off and eight hours of fighting? Our guild was composed of plenty of lowbies as well. I took the path of least resistance to ensure a victory. I play conservative. Sorry if that's not the choice some of you would have liked.

death touch cycle is still broken

they'd still be on loot n scoot for long enough for you to fight azrael, recuperate, and engage CT and easily slay him with that many people if you aren't retarded about kiting stuff

[heartbrand]

Appreciate your optimism but I'm a tad more pragmatic.

[Vile]

love you all

[Not_Kazowi]

death touch cycle is still broken

they'd still be on loot n scoot for long enough for you to fight azrael, recuperate, and engage CT and easily slay him with that many people if you aren't retarded about kiting stuff

Just part of the game man, sometimes you got to side with a lesser of 2 evils. I know I would rather have nihilum on my side rather than az based off geared chars and numbers. Nothing against az, just the way it is.

I wasn't online for any of this so I really don't know but sounds like you guys did pretty ok and still got some pvp so whatever.

[vouss]

You didn't get CT either way though

[heartbrand]

But I got draco and nagafen and pixel guarantees. The other option was zero.

[vouss]

Did what you could I hear ya

[Mac Dretti]

http://mashable.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Inglorious-Bastards.gif

[HippoNipple]

You guys have to remember HB has all the gear he wants. He is trying to help out people in his guild so they see some progress and have some fun. He doesn't have the luxury of chasing revenge PvP kills. It is very black and white for people in Nihilum and Azrael on what to do but HB is faced with tough decisions every time he tries to get his guild involved in end game pvp/pve.

[heartbrand]

You guys have to remember HB has all the gear he wants. He is trying to help out people in his guild so they see some progress and have some fun. He doesn't have the luxury of chasing revenge PvP kills. It is very black and white for people in Nihilum and Azrael on what to do but HB is faced with tough decisions every time he tries to get his guild involved in end game pvp/pve.

this x10000

[heartbrand]

Just to add, there's people in my guild who never even saw what CT looked like in this game until yesterday. They're just looking to have fun. That's always been my goal with Red Dawn.

[Greegon]

Getting the BCG for whomever got it was the right move this time doubt azrael woulda gave that up

[Mac Dretti]

Getting the BCG for whomever got it was the right move this time doubt azrael woulda gave that up

azrael wanted to wipe red dawn and take their draco and ct

this, "we wanted to ally" argument is lawl

[Colgate]

we wanted to team to fight against nihilum, and then once they were dead fight just us two for draco and ct

but naw they'll ally with the guild that has oppressed the server for two years and griefed half the people that ever joined red dawn off the server

[Mac Dretti]

Lite steals half his current guild from the last 4 opposing guilds, then goes to steal their 2 mobs on a repop day

In my eyes Azrael is the one holding the server back

[Colgate]

naw they left cause they wanted pvp and red dawn has no interest in pvping

[heartbrand]

Yaw I guess the last three months of trying to get people to log on to contest never rly happened. My bad.

[k9quaint]

naw they left cause they wanted pvp and red dawn has no interest in pvping

To be fair: people have no interest pvping in the mid 50s wearing bronze vs level 60s in VP gear. Upon arriving at 60 many people stopped grouping for XP and started grouping for drops which were often contested. Instead of forming a group and doing what the group was capable of, people decided on a target and tried to form a group to take it down. The server pop is too low and there are too few geared 60s in Red Dawn for this approach to work. So the XP groups lose out, and the item camp groups lose out and people get frustrated.

So, as people trickled into the post game, some went to where their character progression could continue uninterrupted. That place was Nihilum (because Azrael was not recruiting or raiding at the time).

The server is stale at the moment and there are going to be very few serious fights because of the this. When Velious comes out, there will be things worth fighting over and we shall see if the server remains a one guild box.

[Bazia]

I dunno when I was in Az I would just take a trio of people who needed exp and would out of group heal/buff/rez for them as long as I could roll for the drops I needed.

Worked out pretty damn good, got all the shit I needed and they got really fast exp, should get some of that action going imo.

[Mac Dretti]

Getting 60 > pvping at lvl 55

[Stalos_]

So for those of us a little slow IE myself, heart brand did you in fact strike a deal with nihilium for dragons in exchange for helping fight azrael ?

[Forum Warrior]

So for those of us a little slow IE myself, heart brand did you in fact strike a deal with nihilium for dragons in exchange for helping fight azrael ?

azrael came into fear with the intention of wiping red dawn and taking 100% of the loot. nihilum said don't help them out and well give you any loots off of draco, let you have naggy and also give you venril sathir.

pretty smart decision as it netted a cloak of flames, bcg and vs loots

[Forum Warrior]

one must also take into account the fact the lite/azrael core screwed over hb in the past with vae victus and pretty much now by snagging members no reason to take their side

[Stalos_]

Alright thanks for the explanation , that is a lot of new pvp targets , sweet lord

[Stalos_]

Fail mobile typing, excuse me.

[s1ckness]

naw they left cause they wanted pvp and red dawn has no interest in pvping

chortled real good @ this one

[Smedy]

naw they left cause they wanted pvp and red dawn has no interest in pvping

i'd want to pvp too if i after 4 weeks had epic, 41% haste, ragefire set and all other pieces (novus) but im after 2,5 years still stuck with 0 epics and just now finally got a haste

i'll be ready to pvp when i have the god damn pixels bro

[mikemandella]

i'd want to pvp too if i after 4 weeks had epic, 41% haste, ragefire set and all other pieces (novus) but im after 2,5 years still stuck with 0 epics and just now finally got a haste

i'll be ready to pvp when i have the god damn pixels bro

Pixels are overrated. Ask Nihilum last night in KC.. they got rape trained and Checkraise tunnel visioned and went down in less than 5 seconds.

- Oppressor

[big mouth chew]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/46168534.jpg

[heartbrand]

Yes, I got tstaffed while not being in TS with everyone else, grats on your accomplishment I'm sure vulak will be next.

[raka]

when Azrael's "loot council" begins to only give items to the alts of the 4 main snazzwangling dinglebats, will it crumble.....again?

[vouss]

Hopefully that's not a problem because anyone that originally split off from Red Dawn to rejoin Azrael knows full well what they are going to get from the guild, and since we don't need anymore players to take stuff on re-pop day... should be a non issue.

[Smedy]

Pixels are overrated. Ask Nihilum last night in KC.. they got rape trained and Checkraise tunnel visioned and went down in less than 5 seconds.

- Oppressor

Yeah, pixels are overrated, right now.

The difference between having vp gear and not isn't huge. Just wait until velious comes and talk to me when nihilum has full Sleeper/TOV gear gear will make about 100% more difference. Work together now or forever be a click forced to do lodizal/tantors/small pvp or we unite and challenge nihilum for tow and tov and have 100 v 100 battles in western wastes.

[Mac Dretti]

when Azrael's "loot council" begins to only give items to the alts of the 4 main snazzwangling dinglebats, will it crumble.....again?

Lite's only here for the PvP, thats why he gears the characters he has access too and doesn't need anything anymore

[Bazia]

Just saying Lite helped me get hella geared in like a month because I showed up to stuff.

I didn't give him access until right before I left.

[Not_Kazowi]

Why people give access to anyone they don't know in real life is beyond me. Have the 100+ horror stories of strippings not taught us anything?

[Tradesonred]

when Azrael's "loot council" begins to only give items to the alts of the 4 main snazzwangling dinglebats, will it crumble.....again?

when Azrael's "loot council" begins to only give items to the alts of the 4 main snazzwangling dinglebats, will it crumble.....again?

when Azrael's "loot council" begins to only give items to the alts of the 4 main snazzwangling dinglebats, will it crumble.....again?



I like salem, feel bad that he has a blind spot for this. I mean if they include him in the 4 main snazzwangling dinglebatting, i could see how it helps him not see the thing as it is.

[Tradesonred]

You guys are being fucking retarded. Nihi and RD were fighting in KC and TT last night. Youre acting like Jim Jones followers and "RD is sucking nihilum dick" is your kool-aid.

[Tassador]

Loot council, dkp, nizzar it all has one equation pixel fever long live the new age of r99 no pvp simulated repops and Dragon haste for all alts!

[Sektor]

If you raid in Nilly you will get geared well. I just don't trust Lite's loot decision and he has no written rules, it's more of a winging it like system which is retarded. Would never join a guild solely because of that reason.

[Tradesonred]

"A self-reinforcing delusion operates atop of a web of closed loops of hidden assumptions. Hence if one questions everything that one believes, explaining these beliefs in terms of lower-level beliefs, and works down the levels of beliefs, whilst propagating any changes up through the levels, then continues working down again... At some point one is faced with beliefs that are held without any justification whatsoever. It is at this level that one has a chance of recognising that one is caught in a self-reinforcing delusion."

[Tradesonred]

Dat loot council

lol

[Tassador]

Dat loot council

lol

Pixel council lol that's mad

[Tradesonred]

Red Dawn will disband and any members that made it past the 50+ grind will join Nihilum, including Checkraise.

Ok care to make it interesting? Heres what i think will happen to Azrael, probably before Velious:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCbOUgr_r-E

Ill bet 1k

[Tradesonred]

In theory a loot council could work, but putting pixel junkies in charge of distributing pixels, 'na mean?

[heartbrand]

Just saying Lite helped me get hella geared in like a month because I showed up to stuff.

I didn't give him access until right before I left.

He boxes your character constantly FYI

[Tassador]

Please ban these boxers and all chars they have accessed.

[vouss]

bump

[Rettj]

If you raid in Nilly you will get geared well. I just don't trust Lite's loot decision and he has no written rules, it's more of a winging it like system which is retarded. Would never join a guild solely because of that reason.

hehehehehehehe in sektors voice

[vouss]

azrael only shot and doing something on the server was to form some kinda of alliance with red dawn but the leadership is retarded in azrael

HEH

[Rettj]

ya he was a little off, truth was it took every level 60 quitting for azrael to get some free mobs


oh and salem being plugged in like the lawnmower man playing 23 hours a day

[SamwiseRed]

i'll never join nilly sorry brew pal

yikes

[vouss]

how bout this piece of gold

Red Dawn will disband and any members that made it past the 50+ grind will join Nihilum, including Checkraise.

[no chewie dont]

damn, salem with that prophet status

[Rettj]

arms wide open for the emporer and all his squires

salem should up that play time from 23 hours to 24hours a day because hes an embarassing FQer

[Colgate]

no1 has integrity on this box except for me, chuck, xantille

[vouss]

I actually like waking up at 5am to slay dragons, it gives me time to drink some coffee and look over a petition I mad over a year ago in regards to the banning of one of my 3 level 60's

[Rettj]

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2011/10/cage_bliss.gif

[SamwiseRed]

con air good

[Vile]

yikes

thought RD would last forever :(

[Doors]

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f318/paranoid666au/Picture6.png



Velious prep

[Smedy]

salem with dat prophet status

[Barladore]

salem with dat prophet status

[SamwiseRed]

thought RD would last forever :(

http://i.imgur.com/lUDfk07.gif

[Not_Kazowi]

If you raid in Nilly you will get geared well. I just don't trust Lite's loot decision and he has no written rules, it's more of a winging it like system which is retarded. Would never join a guild solely because of that reason.

lol

[Tassador]

That pixel eq immersion will make you turn on your moms.

[Genedin]

Granted, there is a formulaic and transparent loot system in Azrael now so his statement is moot.

[Dacuk]

Azrael loot system definitely has come a long way. Proud of u guys

[Bamz4l]

salem being plugged in like the Lawnmower Man, powerfully electric with an ongoing plan

[Sektor]

i'll never join nilly sorry brew pal

Confirmed Vile is now a nilly nuthugger

[Ames who?]

ya he was a little off, truth was it took every level 60 quitting for azrael to get some free mobs


oh and salem being plugged in like the lawnmower man playing 23 hours a day

looll

[Bamz4l]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utoq6BZzM8E

[SamwiseRed]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utoq6BZzM8E

pras

[Koota]

Goog thread

[Smedy]

i think we can all agree that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb3IMTJjzfo

[Feniggles]

no1 has integrity on this box except for me, chuck, xantille

nobodys lol

[Colgate]

HOW DARE YOU.

you ain't even on this box DAWG

[fiegi 8.0]

you ain't even on this box DAWG

technically i aint either

but i feelers you