Nilbog I decided to write you an essay

[Stasis01]

Ok so when the server came back online..

-How many players logged on within an hour?
-How many of those players are raid capable?
-What % of those players were Nihilum?
-Did they all go to the same location? Where was it?
-Where did everyone else go?
-Have the smaller guilds attempted a truce on respawn days?

In my honest opinion, adding the variance PvE has would mean everyone else gets NO raid targets. This is quite a similar situation that happened on eqlive during classic. So wtf.

Since you don't seem to understand why people feel this way I decided to write you a novel.

Nihilum has had 99.9% of raid mobs since release of the box, I don't understand how adding variance would make things worse, like I keep hearing, but I will try to explain why having no variance is ruining the server.

Azrael built up a decent force, we were roughly 30-50 deep when we started contesting - to the current situation where no one logs on, interestingly now you want to see the statistical lay out of raid attendance after the only other guild on the server quit, again for the 30th time. (Brobb Force GL Nihi, Rexx Heresy GL Nihi, Gong basically Holo GL Nihi, HPT Nihi, Sektor the guy who fucked his cousin Nihi, you get my point most GL's have buckled like bitches so let's not jump on the Lite bandwagon so quickly !)

Now where was I, oh yeah we took a couple Trakanon's, a Draco - and now it turns into 8 hours to contest Trak. We tried VS several times to devastating losses with faction, we tried snagging Inny a few times to devastating losses/CC. You see, when a guild is forced to mass recruit to battle another guild heads up that has the advantage, you almost always get people that will feed information, and they can just check to see what targets you go for just as easily.

Now the mass recruiting begins, and these 8 hour Trak contests seem a lot harder than just guild disbanding and joining Nihi, since it is FFA. Seeing as most of the hardcore's that are willing to put in this kind of time are already in Nihi, it's almost glaringly obvious that they will win the battle of neckbeards and eventually overcome the opposition.

The reason variance will help, is because smaller crews that are online at odd times, or are on top of zone control and keeping trackers out, see you don't understand that Nihilum is not online other than for raid targets - that's like 20% of total server time, and they LOCK IT ALL DOWN and force people into ridiculous time battles.

This rule set favors those with the most time to secure the pixels, but once that's accomplished they can go back to running 20-25 at raids, and the server is a wasteland for the rest of the time.


These 50 vs 50's are brainless caster assist trains, they aren't what PVP should be about end all be all - this cuts out the little guy, and shits on the #2 spot - if you can't see it you're insane.

and PS, there are no smaller guilds to truce.

[Stasis01]

OH YES LOL I missed the entire point of his quote - maybe Azrael should sit around for repop days and hopefully snag Fay next time !

[Colgate]

this would mostly be fixed when the resist code doesn't cater to bad players mashing their sunstrike button

[Pudge]

just do this, it sounds like it would be the most fun because everyone on the server can show up just to mess around and PVP even if nillies gonna slay the dragon regardless

Have raid mobs spawn within a 6 hour window with a one hour advance shout. Example, Trakanon is killed, and can respawn anywhere from 72-78 hours later. If he is going to spawn at 75 hours, a global shout announces he will spawn an hour from now at 74 hours. It's basically a one hour advance batphone to everyone on the server. More dedicated guilds will be rewarded by being in a defensive position at zone lines since they can camp the entire 6 hour window, but casual players will be able to move in to attack as the window closes in the final hour. Epic PvP will result. The precise timing could be tinkered with, the main necessity here is serverwide advance shouts for all raid mobs to encourage mass PvP competition for those mobs rather than poopsocking or locking down precise mob spawn times at off-peak hours.

[Vile]

just do this, it sounds like it would be the most fun because everyone on the server can show up just to mess around and PVP even if nillies gonna slay the dragon regardless

noice

[Nizzarr]

pity quick reply

[Lowlife]

just do this, it sounds like it would be the most fun because everyone on the server can show up just to mess around and PVP even if nillies gonna slay the dragon regardless

seconded

[Dullah]

As a thesis on illogical conclusions, I'd grade this paper an A+.

[Colgate]

ender, why don't you write us a thesis on how corrupt you think the staff is for banning you for breaking the rules despite the fact that there's a developer in your guild making non-classic changes to benefit you?

[Agatha]

even before i joined nihi i was against this, cause it is fucking retarded.

You are in essence handicapping the situation. Either man up and fight nihilum on even ground or quit the server.

[Colgate]

agatha flip flops to zerg, tells people to "man up and fight"

funny

[Stasis01]

Azrael officer Agatha is a perfect example on why two guilds will never exist - it's just easier to join them, which has been done with every other guild on the box.

He couldn't hack the 8 hr Trak days, and quit after the recruiting/losses started coming.

I don't blame him though, it surely isn't the first time this cycle has happened.

[Smedy]

agatha flip flops to zerg, tells people to "man up and fight"

funny

ooo man, people so dumb

i think variance would add to the box, not sure why blue gets everything and red has to suffer through a guild that consists of half the server just steamrolling through everything within seconds of pop but blue gets to poopsock hard.

only reason variance would be good is that nihilum simply cannot get a zerg force like that to be on call all the time, giving smaller number people who actually play the game and don't only logon for the weekly raid schedule a shot at getting something.

saying that there will be less pvp is bullshit, there's never going to be any pvp if you show up with 50 lvl 60 while the resistance has 15. people just aint gonna sacrifice themselves into a zerg of braindead drones

i dont feel like arguing this anyway, lets open teams99, let red99 die, eventually we will figure out what a stupid thing it would be to merge the 2 and just keep teams and shut red99 down and let it be the beta it always was

[Stasis01]

There is no way a second guild can compete with this rule set, which is why there is no other guilds - Lite is stubborn and has tried a few times, but it will always be the same cycle.

Most of the hardcores have all joined Nihi, and just enjoy sitting back and having total control of PVE nostalgia with Nizzar hand holding - it's just so bleh compared to what it could be.

Red is bluer than blue.

[Lowlife]

let red99 die, eventually we will figure out what a stupid thing it would be to merge the 2 and just keep teams and shut red99 down and let it be the beta it always was

[s1ckness]

agatha flip flops to zerg, tells people to "man up and fight"

funny

i had a good chuckle at this also

[Stasis01]

If Red99 had variance at least the opposition would have some other options like mobilizing faster, being available for late night, doing juggs as a guild if Traks due etc etc there's 100 things that could happen, shit just get lucky and have people around when inny spawns.

Right now - It's just so one dimensional and frustrating for any second guild attempting to compete.

[Silikten]

Honestly, the best argument right now is:

Nihilum already sports 50 players on designated raid days. So how much worse can it get with a variance?

This is a brilliant comment. There isn't really any reason variance cannot be added. It won't hurt anyone. If nihilum is truly pve gods they will deal with it. It only promotes smaller guilds (people who field 20-28 members) to be able to kill raid targets.

[Smedy]

also for the love of god enable 2 boxing, it's not like nihilums 50x2 numbers gonna change anything for them, but smaller guilds can get shit done, why cant we have 2 boxing on red99? blue get spell ducking and a lot of other things because of no obvious reason, we have other issues here thus we should get 2boxing to solve our population issue.

pras

[Terpuntine]

Red is dead, just let go.

[Pudge]

agatha flip flops to zerg, tells people to "man up and fight"

funny

he's doing even better than that. he's taken the nizzy stance, telling his opponents to "quit the server" - bluer than blue

[Clark]

Sektor the guy who fucked his cousin

http://s23.postimg.org/lu8kw7qfv/aabbb.jpg

[Retti_]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/1865570/keyboard-smash-o.gif

[Colgate]

Red is dead, just let go.

[Dullah]

tldr version

I'm not winning, devs plz install hardcoded system to grief the people who are.

[Colgate]

why haven't you added your other 2 characters to your sig and include "i have leveled 6 characters to level 60, including 5 melees, several of which were before the large experience bonus additions and removal of experience loss from pvp deaths, this game is my life"

[Smedy]

Sektor the guy who fucked his cousin Nihi

http://hem.bredband.net/b215244/awesome.gif

[Tassador]

How many chars can we transfer from red to t99 on the merge? Also heard some key items would not be on the merge. T99 is you ready?

[Lowlife]

why haven't you added your other 2 characters to your sig and include "i have leveled 6 characters to level 60, including 5 melees, several of which were before the large experience bonus additions and removal of experience loss from pvp deaths, this game is my life"

lol'd

[Dullah]

Dunno why people quote the angry nonfactor kid who was still mastering potty training after I had mastered EQ.

I've had 3 level 60s, 1 was powerleveled, all hit 60 during bonus.

[lite]

Rogean sirken nilbog and zade all agreed on simulated.patch days.to.help the server.. last time I spoke to zade he told me, that meeting was the last time he ever heard.of it.

Shits fucking stupid

Thanks for the alecta changed, but this was probably the most important thing agreed upon. This box is tiny, mass recruitment tactics of weak minded individuals will always prevail in said environment.

[Fawqueue]

... after I had mastered EQ.


Must-include item for your resume. Might want to print up some business cards with this as well to, you know...impress the ladies.

[Colgate]

I've had 3 level 60s, 1 was powerleveled, all hit 60 during bonus.

Destin
Ender
Skank
Ehud
Cricket
Spectre

looks like 6 to me

[Dullah]

http://i.imgur.com/FjvQ63Q.png

[Colgate]

almost accurate, because i was 6 years old in 1999

i'm in college playing this game occasionally in my free time, while you are a grown adult with an addiction to a video game

but yeah let's try and make that into an insult

HEH

[Vayder]

If Red99 had variance at least the opposition would have some other options like mobilizing faster, being available for late night, doing juggs as a guild if Traks due etc etc there's 100 things that could happen, shit just get lucky and have people around when inny spawns.


How'd that work out on server restart?

You guys arguing for variance have no clue what you're asking for.

[quido]

How'd that work out on server restart?

You guys arguing for variance have no clue what you're asking for.

The difference is there won't be 50 of you rolling around right then, hopefully.

[Tassador]

Damn I was 15 at 1999 and I still play this. Colgate is right but I don't know where to turn for help.

[heals4reals]

Rogean sirken nilbog and zade all agreed on simulated.patch days.to.help the server.. last time I spoke to zade he told me, that meeting was the last time he ever heard.of it.

Shits fucking stupid

Thanks for the alecta changed, but this was probably the most important thing agreed upon. This box is tiny, mass recruitment tactics of weak minded individuals will always prevail in said environment.

http://travelsuntranslated.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/crying-gif.gif

[Andis]

Since you don't seem to understand why people feel this way I decided to write you a novel.

Nihilum has had 99.9% of raid mobs since release of the box, I don't understand how adding variance would make things worse, like I keep hearing, but I will try to explain why having no variance is ruining the server.

Azrael built up a decent force, we were roughly 30-50 deep when we started contesting - to the current situation where no one logs on, interestingly now you want to see the statistical lay out of raid attendance after the only other guild on the server quit, again for the 30th time. (Brobb Force GL Nihi, Rexx Heresy GL Nihi, Gong basically Holo GL Nihi, HPT Nihi, Sektor the guy who fucked his cousin Nihi, you get my point most GL's have buckled like bitches so let's not jump on the Lite bandwagon so quickly !)

Now where was I, oh yeah we took a couple Trakanon's, a Draco - and now it turns into 8 hours to contest Trak. We tried VS several times to devastating losses with faction, we tried snagging Inny a few times to devastating losses/CC. You see, when a guild is forced to mass recruit to battle another guild heads up that has the advantage, you almost always get people that will feed information, and they can just check to see what targets you go for just as easily.

Now the mass recruiting begins, and these 8 hour Trak contests seem a lot harder than just guild disbanding and joining Nihi, since it is FFA. Seeing as most of the hardcore's that are willing to put in this kind of time are already in Nihi, it's almost glaringly obvious that they will win the battle of neckbeards and eventually overcome the opposition.

The reason variance will help, is because smaller crews that are online at odd times, or are on top of zone control and keeping trackers out, see you don't understand that Nihilum is not online other than for raid targets - that's like 20% of total server time, and they LOCK IT ALL DOWN and force people into ridiculous time battles.

This rule set favors those with the most time to secure the pixels, but once that's accomplished they can go back to running 20-25 at raids, and the server is a wasteland for the rest of the time.


These 50 vs 50's are brainless caster assist trains, they aren't what PVP should be about end all be all - this cuts out the little guy, and shits on the #2 spot - if you can't see it you're insane.

and PS, there are no smaller guilds to truce.

[Rellapse35]

Simulated patch days would be a nice as fuk

Dunno why everyone is not trying to promote this rather than Variance LOLS

[Andis]

agatha flip flops to zerg, tells people to "man up and fight"

funny

[Elderan]

The difference is there won't be 50 of you rolling around right then, hopefully.

But it goes both ways..

You wont have your entire guild on right then either.

So you will face our 25-30 with your 10-15 max at some random time.

[Andis]

ooo man, people so dumb

i think variance would add to the box, not sure why blue gets everything and red has to suffer through a guild that consists of half the server just steamrolling through everything within seconds of pop but blue gets to poopsock hard.

only reason variance would be good is that nihilum simply cannot get a zerg force like that to be on call all the time, giving smaller number people who actually play the game and don't only logon for the weekly raid schedule a shot at getting something.

saying that there will be less pvp is bullshit, there's never going to be any pvp if you show up with 50 lvl 60 while the resistance has 15. people just aint gonna sacrifice themselves into a zerg of braindead drones

i dont feel like arguing this anyway, lets open teams99, let red99 die, eventually we will figure out what a stupid thing it would be to merge the 2 and just keep teams and shut red99 down and let it be the beta it always was

[Andis]

Honestly, the best argument right now is:

Nihilum already sports 50 players on designated raid days. So how much worse can it get with a variance?

This is a brilliant comment. There isn't really any reason variance cannot be added. It won't hurt anyone. If nihilum is truly pve gods they will deal with it. It only promotes smaller guilds (people who field 20-28 members) to be able to kill raid targets.

[Rellapse35]

Andis do you not realize people play even less with Variance?

And still get all the mobs.

You guys are fucking STUPID jesus holy christ no wonder u cannot kill a 32k hp mob 12 yrs later on a emu box.

[hagard]

variance is stupid as fuk
nihilum will continue to get dragons unless the other side mass recruits/merges with other guilds

[Elderan]

I specifically left blue because of variance. It is one of the dumbest things ever implemented in EQ history. However I do understand why blue HAS to have it. When you have 4-5 guilds which have 100+ person rosters each then you need something to keep those numbers lower.

However they DON'T have the pvp option. Here if guild A wants that mob they KNOW what they need to do. They need to FIGHT for it. This is a pvp server after all.

If they don't have enough people then recruit more, if they are not skilled enough then practice more, if their levels are too low then level MORE. if their leadership sucks then REMOVE those leaders.

This isn't some nanny state server where things are handed to you because you feel your small MINORITY group should get some share.

[runlvlzero]

This 24 page thread and Stasis 5 page thread shows me you do care but just being little babies...man the fuck up

No Variance ensures PVP every week you know when and where.

With Variance you're wanting to maybe get a mob Nilly will not feel like answering the batphone for like a draco or something. Ensuring 0 PvP

Do you read/understand the shit you're saying?

Must be a troll no 1 is this stupid

If you want anything changed to help the little guys out it should be simulated patch days not variance

Yeah I am done responding to these idiots. They make me wanna join Nilly just b/c they are so fucking stupid it is amazing. Instead of manning up they are tru bitch made punks.

wahhh i didnt get dragons
server sucks and its all everybody elses fault

does anyone read what they post?
if players are logging on once a week to down raid targets then logging off, whats the problem?
that theres no dragons left for you? QQ
theres other ways to have fun in norrath, ADAPT

They just want to log in bitch about shit and twink alts and QQ more.

[HippoNipple]

But it goes both ways..

You wont have your entire guild on right then either.

So you will face our 25-30 with your 10-15 max at some random time.

Most other players on this server just play when they want to. They don't schedule their real life around emulated server repop times.

[HippoNipple]

Never mind, not sure why I brought that up to Elderan. I don't think that is a concept he can comprehend.

[Rellapse35]

Most other players on this server just play when they want to. They don't schedule their real life around emulated server repop times.

But yet you want Variance where you need twice as many people needing to do just that to get mobs

[quido]

But it goes both ways..

You wont have your entire guild on right then either.

So you will face our 25-30 with your 10-15 max at some random time.

Sometimes. Other times we will notice a mob up that you don't. Sometimes it will be the opposite.

What I do know is some variance, even less than what is on blue, will prohibit you from getting every spawn on a timer that is ideal for you.

[HippoNipple]

But yet you want Variance where you need twice as many people needing to do just that to get mobs

It is a long term change in the server. The current structure of Nihilum wouldn't work on a real server. You aren't going to have 10 people put in scouting time every week to then bat phone random noob #58 to get him his raid loot.

If PvE requires more time every week then Nihilum will change. PvE needs to be spread out throughout the week with a variable spawn time period. Make it so someone can't log in for 5 hours a week and be a part of every raid on the server. If you want to be a part of every raid target in a game you should be forced to play this game every day.

Normal people with lives won't be able to be a part of every single raid target every week.

[Elderan]

Most other players on this server just play when they want to. They don't schedule their real life around emulated server repop times.


Of course a lot of people don't.

So you are saying the person who puts in LESS time should get mobs too?

Those who put in the most effort should get the most mobs..

Pretty simple..

[Rellapse35]

It is a long term change in the server. The current structure of Nihilum wouldn't work on a real server. You aren't going to have 10 people put in scouting time every week to then bat phone random noob #58 to get him his raid loot.

If PvE requires more time every week then Nihilum will change. PvE needs to be spread out throughout the week with a variable spawn time period. Make it so someone can't log in for 5 hours a week and be a part of every raid on the server. If you want to be a part of every raid target in a game you should be forced to play this game every day.

Normal people with lives won't be able to be a part of every single raid target every week.

Variance might make you play the game everday but it is just for 2-5 mins.

You camp out at the mob in window wait for a txt message log in kill the mob log out.

TMO does not play massive amounts of hours on blue.

Apps do the tracking senior OG members just relax and kill dragons.

[HippoNipple]

Of course a lot of people don't.

So you are saying the person who puts in LESS time should get mobs too?

Those who put in the most effort should get the most mobs..

Pretty simple..

Your right, the ones logging in 5 hours a week in Nihilum shouldn't be getting mobs. The system needs to change. Make EQ harder to split up the casuals vs the hard core players. At times the opposition has had more hardcore skilled players than Nihilum but Nihlium can lean on casuals to leverage them in content the casuals shouldn't even be involved in.

[Andis]

the system is flawed

nihilum should not be able to load in 5 hours a week, to kill all mobs, and log off while the rest of the server plays 7 days a week, cuz we actually like the game and like to pvp.

this is not what eq was meant out to be

plain and simple.

GO BACK TO BLUE, NO ONE WANTS YOU HERE

[runlvlzero]

Your right, the ones logging in 5 hours a week in Nihilum shouldn't be getting mobs. The system needs to change. Make EQ harder to split up the casuals vs the hard core players. At times the opposition has had more hardcore skilled players than Nihilum but Nihlium can lean on casuals to leverage them in content the casuals shouldn't even be involved in.

So your advocating time sink vs Nizzar and pals skill in organization and strategy?

Nah nah

YOU GUYS FUCKING SUCK. YOU AREN'T FUCKING TEAM PLAYERS. YOU ARE FUCKING IDIOTS

[HippoNipple]

Variance might make you play the game everday but it is just for 2-5 mins.

You camp out at the mob in window wait for a txt message log in kill the mob log out.

TMO does not play massive amounts of hours on blue.

Apps do the tracking senior OG members just relax and kill dragons.

well those OG members are still sitting next to a bat phone and are willing to drop their real life at anytime to raid dragons on an emulator.

Original gangsters chilling must mean something different to you than how I understand it.

[runlvlzero]

You are one delusional fuck Hippo.

[big mouth chew]

some of you really need long hugs while you sob uncontrollably for 5-15 minutes
i think it would help a lot, not just with your in-game personalities either

[Rellapse35]

the system is flawed

nihilum should not be able to load in 5 hours a week, to kill all mobs, and log off while the rest of the server plays 7 days a week, cuz we actually like the game and like to pvp.

this is not what eq was meant out to be

plain and simple.

GO BACK TO BLUE, NO ONE WANTS YOU HERE

Do you realize 3 to 5 people can carry an entire guild with Variance?

Do you realize you can play 1 hour a week and get all the mobs?

Do you know how a well organized guild runs?

Clearly if you like this game so much, You would be winning right?

Why not?

[HippoNipple]

So your advocating time sink vs Nizzar and pals skill in organization and strategy?

Nah nah

YOU GUYS FUCKING SUCK. YOU AREN'T FUCKING TEAM PLAYERS. YOU ARE FUCKING IDIOTS

The current system doesn't test Nizzar's skill in organization and strategy. I agree he is good and he has a core of members that are good. If these changes are made I think Nizzar will still be the most successful but they will have to work for it and it will be more fun to be in outside guilds. I think more mobs will slip here and there.

It is so dumb to base how the server would be off of one night of crap variance, where every single mob spawned at the exact same time on the same day.

If variance was put in it would take a month for those working harder in Nihilum to get fed up and start their own guild.

Rellapse says noobs scout out the mobs on real blue servers and the gangsters get called in for the kills. Well on this server if there are 25 "noobs" logging in each day to get loot for others they will get fed up and just make their own guild. I don't think it would play out this way to where the noobs were doing the scouting on red99, but I was just using Rellapse's example.

[Elderan]

The current system doesn't test Nizzar's skill in organization and strategy. I agree he is good and he has a core of members that are good. If these changes are made I think Nizzar will still be the most successful but they will have to work for it and it will be more fun to be in outside guilds. I think more mobs will slip here and there.

It is so dumb to base how the server would be off of one night of crap variance, where every single mob spawned at the exact same time on the same day.

If variance was put in it would take a month for those working harder in Nihilum to get fed up and start their own guild.

Rellapse says noobs scout out the mobs on real blue servers and the gangsters get called in for the kills. Well on this server if there are 25 "noobs" logging in each day to get loot for others they will get fed up and just make their own guild. I don't think it would play out this way to where the noobs were doing the scouting on red99, but I was just using Rellapse's example.

Nihilum average week consist of 25 hours of raiding.

I think we work pretty hard as it is.

[HippoNipple]

Do you realize 3 to 5 people can carry an entire guild with Variance?

Do you realize you can play 1 hour a week and get all the mobs?

Do you know how a well organized guild runs?

Clearly if you like this game so much, You would be winning right?

Why not?

I don't think Nihlum would have 50+ players logged in for all the raids if they were spread out through the week with a window of 6 hours on spawn times.

I'm not saying it takes a ton more time for all 50 players but most people can't jump on a game at anytime. As it is now it is easy to schedule 5 hours a week, one day a week, at the same time, to log in and take orders.

It has little to do with the scouting, it has to do with getting 50 people to log in a game all at once at any given time. It would be impossible on our server to pull that off.

[Elderan]

I don't think Nihlum would have 50+ players logged in for all the raids if they were spread out through the week with a window of 6 hours on spawn times.

I'm not saying it takes a ton more time for all 50 players but most people can't jump on a game at anytime. As it is now it is easy to schedule 5 hours a week, one day a week, at the same time, to log in and take orders.

It has little to do with the scouting, it has to do with getting 50 people to log in a game all at once at any given time. It would be impossible on our server to pull that off.


Nihilum average week consist of 25 hours of raiding.

[big mouth chew]

the bigger and bolder he types it the sadder it sounds

[HippoNipple]

You don't have 50 players in Nihilum raiding 25 hours a week.

[Elderan]

the bigger and bolder he types it the sadder it sounds

Not saying it isn't sad..

Just trying to make the point that Nihilum already spends a tremendous amount of time playing per week..

To think that Nihilum doesn't put in massive amount of time before and after bosses so that we CAN get these bosses is ludicrous. People crying saying we should have to put in MORE time than we already do with variance is laughable.

[Holey]

all i hear is crying,
all these tears are yummy.

[HippoNipple]

Also, I want to add I am a casual and if I wanted to raid all the content joining Nihilum would be my only option. If things changed and it required bat phones, scouting, etc. I wouldn't even consider joining a hardcore raiding guild. I just don't care much for it.

I just see both sides and shared my opinion on what the problem is. I am not biased and bash both sides when they need to be. I was calling out Agatha for being a complete loser way before it decided to go to Nihilum.

[Elderan]

You don't have 50 players in Nihilum raiding 25 hours a week.

20 Average 20-25 a week
30 Average 15-20 a week
40 Average 10-15 a week

I know people keep saying the 50 number but we did not have 50 on Tuesday(Wednesday morning) we started with 32 and slowly worked to 46 at one point.

[Holey]

has all the room to talk, yet only coems in to disc and leave to play l4d

[heals4reals]

variance is stupid as fuk
nihilum will continue to get dragons unless the other side mass recruits/merges with other guilds

Word.

Once Azrael learns to take raid mobs when 12 are up at the same time then they can make argument for variance and fight over 1 at a time.

[Rellapse35]

It is sad these type of threads created by clueless people just send more and more people to Nilly.

You want to get more recruits?

Quit making threads that makes your guild look like a big collection of mentally challenged children.

[Kergan]

Variance is a blue concept. You have the ability to take a contested spawn by force here.

And variance isn't even working on blue with higher competition in the raiding scene, why would it work here?

[quido]

I thought the same thing until I saw the reality of how it works here.

[Retti_]

Need to enable fte jav quest and make it so poopsockers (nihilum) havr an even further lead by placing raid rdy alts at spawn points w trackers w proven quicker batphone response times.

Azrael would def have an easier time since they are usually not in howling stone or crypt and would k ow when sev/tal/fay spawn

[Kergan]

FTE on a PVP server? Seriously?

Just because nobody can take a raid mob from Nihilum doesn't mean that the mechanic isn't there. And it's pretty hard to camp someone at a raid target spawn to get FTE like it's done on blue when someone can come and kill you. Or have a war/clr hold VS or something while getting bombed on.

Every issue with poopsocking/FTE/etc can be solved with PVP and it just so happens R99 has PVP enabled. If you want a mob go take it?

[quido]

Shit even +/- 4 hours on everything would spice it up enough so that Nihilum at least isn't on auto-pilot with 50 people the same few hours each week.

I'm not trying to excuse the opposition for getting nothing on the repop - should at least be able to get something. I hope there will be better coordination next repop. However under the current system, it's likely Nihilum will just auto-pilot with 40-50 people each week until we get lucky enough to have another repop.

[Vayder]

Why not stall them with PVP at a mob so multiple mobs are up at once?

[quido]

That would work great. With double the people.

If the opposition starts fielding even close to even numbers, Nihilum will pull another 20 people out of Nizzar's ass just to make sure nobody ever has a chance.

I'm not complaining here - I think it can be done nonetheless. But people/staff should know the reality of how it goes on red.

[Andis]

That would work great. With double the people.

If the opposition starts fielding even close to even numbers, Nihilum will pull another 20 people out of Nizzar's ass just to make sure nobody ever has a chance.

I'm not complaining here - I think it can be done nonetheless. But people/staff should know the reality of how it goes on red.

i feel like im talking to a wall with some of these players that post and think they know whats going on

guess what, you dont

this is the reality of this server, and if u dont wanna fix it to mirror more pvp, then I simply dunno what to tell you

red99 - the other alternative to blue99

where dragons come first.

[Pudge]

didnt read 2nd half of thread.

the reason variance was not put in on red is because it would promote pvp, as the spawn times would be known. However, as it is currently, there is no pvp because it's pointless to contest against a 50 man raid force with 20 dudes.

the problem is that because all the mobs are up only once a week, every nilly can clear his schedule and be on for those 3 hours a week and log off. if there were variance with "dragon shouts" across the server 30 mins or an hour before it spawned (or staggered spawn times which ensured dragons popping at known times just at DIFFERENT times throughout the week) then there would be more pvp, more ppl logged on more often (not just 3 hours a week) and even a chance that, perhaps, a euro crew could down a small dragon like faydedar when it spawns at 4:00 am over in the US and no one is going to wake up to kill it.


just makes sense. The current system was put in place to promote PVP, but the pvp aint happening. If it's not accomplishing the goal, switch it up and see if we can make the server a more lively atmosphere. Wouldn't it be great if you were a random newb leveling in Red Dawn and you saw the server message that Talendor was about to spawn in 30 minutes!? run over there and get some pvp, maybe dream about slayin da dragon. get to the scene and check it out. doesnt that sounds like FUN? isnt the server supposed to be about FUN and not begrudgingly waking up at 5:00 am to kill VS and then logging off to go back to sleep?

[Kinamara]

Doubt variance would do much at this point. To be honest I just think it would be annoying to not be able to have the raids in a sequence that's possible to plan around. All raid targets would still go to the stronger guild.

I'm all for balance and competition, but wouldn't waste time on variance tbh. It would just take spying on each others to a new level.

I'd rather see guerilla tactics to disturb raids made more possible by for example limiting /who to once every 5 minutes per player or similar as well as having zone plugging destroyed. Let players stay in game and get YT'ed or simply die an xp death if they go LD while zoning.

[diplo]

i didn't get to play on tuesday, but when i checked what mobs were downed wednesday morning i was actually quite surprised Azrael didn't at least get 1 mob. doesn't take too long to snipe like a talendor/sev.

[Elderan]

i didn't get to play on tuesday, but when i checked what mobs were downed wednesday morning i was actually quite surprised Azrael didn't at least get 1 mob.

Last I checked 9 boss mobs are still up...

But azrael wants variance on those too...

[Retti_]

Love me some dragons

Azrael farms vox

But they dont care AMIRITE HURHURHRURHUR

[Exotics]

red tears over PVE

LOLOLOL

blue thriving bros

[Stasis01]

Originally Posted by Rellapse35 View Post
It is sad these type of threads created by clueless people just send more and more people to Nilly.

You want to get more recruits?

Quit making threads that makes your guild look like a big collection of mentally challenged children.

http://www.p99pvp.com/playerdetail.aspx?player=Rellapse

.18:1 eh Rellapse, I was going to type out some insults but you really aren't even worth it.

[Rellapse35]

yeaa when you got nothing..... bring up a non factor leaderboard u and your retarded friends were all saying was corrupt just 2 weeks ago

lulz
Quit crying
L2playeverquest

[Stasis01]

I have been in Nihilum free farming dragons, and I have been in the resistance - this system is broken, I have seen it first hand and am just speaking openly about it.

It looks like an Azrael/Nihilum issue from the outside, but really I have been on both sides and just being honest that the system is broken.

Nihilum will continue to throw out a fog of counter arguments to make it be perceived that people want to take over Nihilum's crown of farming all of the dragons but really it is much larger than that - but I believe just judging by the questions Nilbog asked, he really has no idea of how guilds have grown/contested/fallen on this box and really no concept of how things run here - so we can only hope that teams will address some of these issues and move on !

[Stasis01]

yeaa when you got nothing..... bring up a non factor leaderboard u and your retarded friends were all saying was corrupt just 2 weeks ago

lulz
Quit crying
L2playeverquest

I am not a big believer in leaderboards that is true, but your accomplishments are nothing, no pvp kills - no guild battles that you have been a part of, I don't even really know who you are.

Just a 6-36 wizard with a big mouth who never really played here? Kk bro.

[HippoNipple]

i didn't get to play on tuesday, but when i checked what mobs were downed wednesday morning i was actually quite surprised Azrael didn't at least get 1 mob. doesn't take too long to snipe like a talendor/sev.

Azrael doesn't exist as a raiding guild right now. A month ago they would have. The resistance was strong and is in a down cycle once again, like always. Asking why Azrael didn't kill a dragon is like asking why Flowers, AIM Chat, Charles Bronson didn't get a target. There is literally like 1 full group per guild playing at a time.

[Rellapse35]

Think you need to learn how to read.

Clearly the 3 nilly kills within 10 mins in FOB was not guild pvp.

Idiot

Lulz

l2playeverquest

[Stasis01]

3 of your 6 kills? That is deserving of your big ego and hilariously nerdy sig.

[Stasis01]

PS why do you type like a teenage girl.

[Rellapse35]

unfortunately the rest of the guild battles resulted in the whole guild getting killed or having to stay plugged for 8+ hours

The only PvP I seek on this server is guild pvp. I showed up to every one when I was in AZ. They only won once. The FOB battle which led to Nilly winning the Seb battle 2 hours later.

I do not find enjoyment griefing lvl 52's trying to lvl in COM nor does that amount to any skill.

If I wanted to be a toxic player like the rest of you my k/d ratio prob would be much higher. But I would rather help someone exp'n than kill them.

[Rellapse35]

PS why do you type like a teenage girl.

When you know you just lost forumquest

grasping @ straws

[Stasis01]

unfortunately the rest of the guild battles resulted in the whole guild getting killed or having to stay plugged for 8+ hours

The only PvP I seek on this server is guild pvp. I showed up to every one when I was in AZ. They only won once. The FOB battle which led to Nilly winning the Seb battle 2 hours later.

I do not find enjoyment griefing lvl 52's trying to lvl in COM nor does that amount to any skill.

If I wanted to be a toxic player like the rest of you my k/d ratio prob would be much higher. But I would rather help someone exp'n than kill them.

Judging by your 3-36 it seems the 52's are farming you.

[Stasis01]

Wait my bad 6-36 LOL.

[Rellapse35]

You act like I give a fuck about a k/d ratio or a leaderboard?

I play to have fun. All you're doing is making yourself look like more of a retard. IF that is even poss

[Stasis01]

Then why the elitist attitude? You are just a casual fun noob player - who really hasn't even played here until recently, and your recent involvement here is just dying over and over and talking shit.

Sounds like you are just a punk to me.

[Rellapse35]

Elitist attitude? Sorry I know how a well organized successful guild is ran. I know that Variance would kill this server.

You got 0 kills on a server repop when you had 12+ hours to organize 1 kill. You nor any of your guild should not be talking about anything PVE related obv you do not know wtf you're doing.

[Stasis01]

They got 0 kills because no one is logging in anymore, and the people that don't want to app Nihi and just farm uncontested non varianced mobs just stop logging in.

You don't even understand the basics here - probably explains your 6-36 record and usual spam of nonsense.

[Rellapse35]

So your only insult is my PVP record? You know I am responding in YOUR thread about PVE right?

[Stasis01]

I mean how else can I measure your success, your first guild was Azrael, I have been saying this before Azrael even reformed - before Heresy, before Force etc.

You are a newb here, a big mouth who dies a lot, nothing more - I really can't insult anything else about you because you haven't done anything else, but it would probably be just as bad IMO.

If you're a 6-36 WIZARD, I think it's safe to say you're jsut bad.

[Retti_]

http://i.imgur.com/lAzVdTt.gif

[Rellapse35]

Trust me I know the basics. Your guild sucks then try and blame the server/staff/rules for your failures as a guild. How in the fuck do you explain how you did not get 1 kill on a full repop?

[Stasis01]

It's pretty simple that the rule set doesn't allow for a second opposition guild, hence every former guild leader/guild core has joined Nihi or quit.

The ruleset is broken, and it only serves a zerg top guild of hardcores, boring.

No one tried for repop day - people have given up, it's simple? Maybe not for someone who can't even be positive K/D as a wiz.

[Stasis01]

2 Years, not one guild/group of players has stuck around to play other than Nihi - must be Lite's fault hehe.

[Elderan]

2 Years, not one guild/group of players has stuck around to play other than Nihi - must be Lite's fault hehe.

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

[Stasis01]

If you can't beat Nihilum heads up non variance what do you do - improve? Nope, the population is low, doesn't retain new players and the #1 guild is open recruitment.

Improve on mobilization time? Nope. Get lucky? Nope.

The answer is and only will be - mass recruit, and battle them zerg vs zerg till one side gives up - which has happened since day one.

I agree Nihilum has most of the hardcores, and they will win that every time - must be because every opposition guild sucks, not that the ruleset is too easy to cockblock.

[Rellapse35]

All I hear is how you guys have given up, no 1 logs in anymore wah wah wah

never saw so many grown ass cry baby men on 1 server ever

Divnity,BDA,Taken and many many other smaller guilds on blue logs in still to raid even if they don't get to get the mobs TMO does been doing it for longer than this server has been out. Quit being fucking little bitches> log the fuck on and enjoy the game. Quit worrying about wtf nilly is doing you're not gonna defeat them.

[Stasis01]

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Yes I am the lorax, I just feel I have to speak the truth for all the spinners that act like this ruleset is favor and fosters competition, and isn't just stagnant and boring and serving one guild.

GM's may start to come around - who knows.

[Elderan]

If you can't beat Nihilum heads up non variance what do you do - improve? Nope, the population is low, doesn't retain new players and the #1 guild is open recruitment.

Improve on mobilization time? Nope. Get lucky? Nope.

The answer is and only will be - mass recruit, and battle them zerg vs zerg till one side gives up - which has happened since day one.

I agree Nihilum has most of the hardcores, and they will win that every time - must be because every opposition guild sucks, not that the ruleset is too easy to cockblock.

You need a strong leader who knows what to do man...

I know exactly what to do if I were in this position. However I am not going to list it so the opposition could use it against us.

[Elderan]

Yes I am the lorax, I just feel I have to speak the truth for all the spinners that act like this ruleset is favor and fosters competition, and isn't just stagnant and boring and serving one guild.

GM's may start to come around - who knows.


I know you fail to understand logic. If I were in the opposition I would LOVE knowing the exact spawn times. It gives them such a HUGE advantage if used right.

[Stasis01]

All I hear is how you guys have given up, no 1 logs in anymore wah wah wah

never saw so many grown ass cry baby men on 1 server ever

Divnity,BDA,Taken and many many other smaller guilds on blue logs in still to raid even if they don't get to get the mobs TMO does been doing it for longer than this server has been out. Quit being fucking little bitches> log the fuck on and enjoy the game. Quit worrying about wtf nilly is doing you're not gonna defeat them.

There is 3 guilds contesting VP on blue, they have a rule set that fosters competition and other tactics than mass recruit and zerg heads up in a frustrating boring and one sided battle.

If the resistance can't improve in any way to improve their success they quit - I mean read Rexx's quotes - I made a thread about it, he joined Nihilum. If he would, who really is expected to put in 8hrs every 3 days to most likely eat a loss? It's ok you are new here Rellapse, and you are 6-36. I'll keep trying to get it to sink in though.

[Tassador]

The reading and retorting to the read timing is astonishing gentlemen!

[Elderan]

There is 3 guilds contesting VP on blue, they have a rule set that fosters competition and other tactics than mass recruit and zerg heads up in a frustrating boring and one sided battle.

You do understand that each of these guilds have over 100 people right?

[Stasis01]

I know you fail to understand logic. If I were in the opposition I would LOVE knowing the exact spawn times. It gives them such a HUGE advantage if used right.

No you wouldn't, you would just join the #1 guild - let's be real Elderan you wouldn't last a week.

You're a coat tail rider, plain and simple - and there's nothing wrong with that, but the system is broken - history and current state of box is all the proof I need.

All guilds that have came here are shit, or the ruleset allows for one guild - let's be real kids.

[Stasis01]

Yes low population is one of the hardest obstacles to overcome a massive zerg with no variance, thank you for pointing that out.

[Rellapse35]

keep bringing up my pvp stats in your pve thread

lulz

[Elderan]

No you wouldn't, you would just join the #1 guild - let's be real Elderan you wouldn't last a week.

You're a coat tail rider, plain and simple - and there's nothing wrong with that, but the system is broken - history and current state of box is all the proof I need.

All guilds that have came here are shit, or the ruleset allows for one guild - let's be real kids.

Son, let me tell you.. I have been there and done it before. If I were single and had more time I might be willing to do it again. Just different point in my life and not willing to right now.

[Nothxu]

I'm not sure who is more retarded, Stasis or Andis. I sure would want to be guilded with both of them though. That would be a winning guild for sure!

[Elderan]

Yes low population is one of the hardest obstacles to overcome a massive zerg with no variance, thank you for pointing that out.

You said that variance worked on blue and showed that guilds did not need to zerg recruit...

I countered your point, noting that each guild you listed DID in fact zerg recruit..

Your point was crushed.

[Retti_]

Keep Lite as leader great success

[Stasis01]

I never said the zerg wouldn't have the advantage even with variance.

I am saying that a resistance guild can still operate with smaller numbers and have a chance - obviously more people helping the better your odds.

But with no variance, numbers are the only odds - everything else is static. Very one dimensional, the group pvp isn't skill based, and it comes down to who has more numbers, and more people willing to go the full 8 hours it was required to contest every 3 days, which are obviously going to gravitate to the #1 spot.

More Nihilum people to argue pls - this isn't obvious that it benefits you guys already.

[Rellapse35]

I understand the point of the thread. You guys want to have fun and pvp.

You're your own worst enemy though. Worry about Azrael first, then worry about Nihilum.

[Stasis01]

I like how Retti has nothing to do with Nihi success and acts like he's one of them now - bitch pls, you're just a bitch out - nothing more, stop the act.

BTW people acting like Azrael is anything other than "the rest of the server who think this sucks" are crazy.

all this "you guys" "your guild" is hilarious.

[Stasis01]

If you weren't aware, our meth addicted raid officer, and his heroin using brother left for Nihilum - he talked very big also, but no one would follow him and he couldn't get shit done.

Was probably Lite's fault no one respected him.

[Elderan]

I never said the zerg wouldn't have the advantage even with variance.

I am saying that a resistance guild can still operate with smaller numbers and have a chance - obviously more people helping the better your odds.

But with no variance, numbers are the only odds - everything else is static. Very one dimensional, the group pvp isn't skill based, and it comes down to who has more numbers, and more people willing to go the full 8 hours it was required to contest every 3 days, which are obviously going to gravitate to the #1 spot.

More Nihilum people to argue pls - this isn't obvious that it benefits you guys already.

And I am telling you Variance gives you a worse chance to get mobs. Yes you might luck into sneaking behind our backs and killing some mob before we know about it. (Hence since we dont know there wont be PVP).

However knowing the time/date when something spawns gives you the MAX chance to get a mob and the greatest chance for PVP. Just got work know what you are doing. Stasis you might know something about 1v1 pvp but you don't know very much about organizing a guild that is for sure from your post.

[Retti_]

Check the resume

Nilly core

Empire builder classic

[Holey]

this went so off topic LMFAO

Shits hilarious

[Stasis01]

Check the resume

Nilly core

Empire builder classic

***** pls you got raped by a rogue in classic SEVERAL times, once solo in inno, twice in solb that day - AS A DRUID.

just because you were around doesn't mean you were good just keep to posting your stupid pictures.

[Holey]

Andis do you not realize people play even less with Variance?

And still get all the mobs.

You guys are fucking STUPID jesus holy christ no wonder u cannot kill a 32k hp mob 12 yrs later on a emu box.

If you weren't aware, our meth addicted raid officer, and his heroin using brother left for Nihilum - he talked very big also, but no one would follow him and he couldn't get shit done.

Was probably Lite's fault no one respected him.

damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
talking about people irl information..
i guess thats the way to get back at people online :eek::eek::eek::eek:

[diplo]

Azrael doesn't exist as a raiding guild right now. A month ago they would have. The resistance was strong and is in a down cycle once again, like always. Asking why Azrael didn't kill a dragon is like asking why Flowers, AIM Chat, Charles Bronson didn't get a target. There is literally like 1 full group per guild playing at a time.

i'm not up to date on azrael tbh and state of server, my playtime currently is spotty. alls i remember is you guys had a decent force last two months and were downing targets and gaining momentum.

[Retti_]

Kited u for 10 minutes in guild pvp meaning u did 0 damage to anyone and didnt help ur team

=D

[Stasis01]

Killed like 10 of your members that fight, good old Nihilum C-team - too bad those losses usually bring out the real members who carry the guild(NOT YOU LOL)

[Retti_]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/1865570/keyboard-smash-o.gif

[Stasis01]

damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
talking about people irl information..
i guess thats the way to get back at people online :eek::eek::eek::eek:

I don't want to get back at anyone, just keeping it real pal.

[Elderan]

I don't want to get back at anyone, just keeping it real pal.

Stasis still butt hurt over Nizzar beating him in the Botb..

Got to let it go sometime man...

[Stasis01]

I told him good fight and it ended there - you're the one who keeps bringing it up.

People say Nizz is bad, I think he's always been good, on his druid or monk - maybe I'm just not as good as others who knows.

[Elderan]

I told him good fight and it ended there - you're the one who keeps bringing it up.

People say Nizz is bad, I think he's always been good, on his druid or monk - maybe I'm just not as good as others who knows.

I was in TS when this happened and I remember exactly your comments and how it came off as...

I remember thinking man, he is mad. Maybe I should have just told Nizzar to forfeit.

After that loss you did not log in until you did one day to join Heresy.

[Stasis01]

I wasn't in TS for the fight, I didn't want to be distracted, straight up lies now eh decent.

I thought you were out of town though =D

[Stasis01]

And I left to join Classic - man all your facts are fucked up haha.

[Labanen]

no fucking way im gonna read through 15 pages of QQ, ill reply to the OP though after having ready through the first few pages.

The reason for variance on blue is because thats how it was on blue servers, initially thought out - i suppose - to make it less likely for one guild to get all the stuff locked down. I also assume that is the reason why you want it on R99.

Now the reality on B99 is a different one though, if you played on blue you will notice that everything is in fact locked down by one guild most of the time. And they achieve this through massive massive poopsocking, ie. spacing out the spawns out over several days and then sit for many hours on the top of each spawn waiting for it to pop.

Alot of the people who previously played on blue do not enjoy sitting on their asses for hours to kill mobs. This includes people in all guilds. However who do you think will be best at doing it if we had to ? the group of people that grinded to max level in days and have the majority of high playtime people, or the people who may not even still be max levelled ?

I think the answer is pretty straight forward. Now, every now and again we hear complains that nihilum recruits too much. Well that has to do with the player turn over in this game, and the top guild will recruit what it takes to remain the top guild. Go examine every server of every comparable online game ever... its just how it is. Imagine if the GMs give in to the variance complains, the burnout rate in Nihilum is gonna be maybe twice of what it is now. which will lead to even more aggressive recruiting... all the while we will still kill 99,9 % of the mobs.

So if your argument is that it cant get worse cause we are already killing 99,9 % of the mobs, then you are likely right in the sense that we wont be getting more mobs than we currently do (all), but we will hurt the opposition even worse than today and the server population will decrease relatively rapidly through higher player turn over rates in nihilum and an increasingly more frustrated opposition.

[Elderan]

I wasn't in TS for the fight, I didn't want to be distracted, straight up lies now eh decent.

You were in TS, just not during the fight.

Also i forgot about Classic since it lasted about a week.

[Labanen]

...or in short, you need more people on the server to compete, not fewer. Variance will bring fewer people.

[Stasis01]

I may have sounded bitter after I don't know, I mean I was 59, didn't bother getting 60 - I didn't argue the rules of boulders being allowed which was a huge favor to barbs.

I mean if I cared so much you'd think I would level bow skill up or something - eh whatever maybe my entire opinion on variance is due to losing a one sided duel, suuure.

[Stasis01]

We know how the real duel vs you ended up in Erudin - me 75% you plugged at 10% - WITH jboots in real time !

[Hughman]

I mean if I cared so much you'd think I would level bow skill up or something
Bow damage is pretty sad here, not that it matters.

[Elderan]

I may have sounded bitter after I don't know, I mean I was 59, didn't bother getting 60 - I didn't argue the rules of boulders being allowed which was a huge favor to barbs.

I mean if I cared so much you'd think I would level bow skill up or something - eh whatever maybe my entire opinion on variance is due to losing a one sided duel, suuure.

This is what caused your hatred for Nihilum which is why you have the stance on Variance. You know Variance will just require us to play a ton more making it less fun for everyone and greifing us.

You then plan to play on T99 leaving your mess behind..

We know how the real duel vs you ended up in Erudin - me 75% you plugged at 10% - WITH jboots in real time !

Lol you mean when I was at the office holding a meeting and trying to keep you away from discing on some random sitting caster in tox?

Grasping at straws man...

[Meow]

Lol you mean when I was at the office holding a meeting and trying to keep you away from discing on some random sitting caster in tox?

Grasping at straws man...

Atleast you got oxygen on the way to work?

Oh no..you work from home, don't you?

[lite]

I like how Retti has nothing to do with Nihi success and acts like he's one of them now - bitch pls, you're just a bitch out - nothing more, stop the act.

it's not an act...they believe

[Dacuk]

The only PvP I seek on this server is guild pvp.

I do not find enjoyment griefing lvl 52's trying to lvl in COM nor does that amount to any skill.


Interesting considering you killed and farmed a level 53 for 3 kills Monday.

[Rellapse35]

Interesting considering you killed and farmed a level 53 for 3 kills Monday.

I didn't farm shit if some idiot is stupid enough to bind at a wiz spire then afk naked he deserves to die a few times.

[Nizzarr]

cesspool guild creating cesspool thread.

Join Azrael guys, were the better guild out there derp derp herp derp.

want a tip guys? Clean up your acts, youll get applicants then.

[Kergan]

Nizzarr's avatar pic is going to give me fucking nightmares.

[Holey]

cesspool guild creating cesspool thread.

Join Azrael guys, were the better guild out there derp derp herp derp.

want a tip guys? Clean up your acts, youll get applicants then.

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[Andis]

cesspool guild created cesspool server.

Join Nihilum guys, were the better pve guild out there that poisons this server from day1.

ftfy

[Bamz4l]

I thought you were out of town though =D

ROFL

[vouss]

Killed Relapse on my 52 sk when he was 60, very bad

[Rellapse35]

naw

[Kastro]

also for the love of god enable 2 boxing, it's not like nihilums 50x2 numbers gonna change anything for them, but smaller guilds can get shit done, why cant we have 2 boxing on red99? blue get spell ducking and a lot of other things because of no obvious reason, we have other issues here thus we should get 2boxing to solve our population issue.

pras

Yeah I played for a bit without boxing /wrist