Who is staying on r99?

[jestingoff02]

r99 and t99 is going to merge no doubt. who is going to stay on r99? a 6 mo time before the merge why lvl a new toon? fresh pvp sounds fun but i doubt i will be getting 60 on t99

[Stasis01]

Population will soar with teams, and the outrage of 400+ players will be not to merge with a broken server/broken ruleset/farmed to death box with a toxic community.

[Rec]

no one

[Greegon]

where exactly are you getting the info that all of this will happen

[Combobreaker]

velious way before teams, but sirken makes teams sound promising with 500+ starting fresh with item loot

[Dullah]

R99 will have velious and prior to teams releasing, most, if not all, of the "broken" things will be fixed. In velious, every slot needs to be upgraded on every character, so previous "farming to death" will mean very little but an early advantage. The community on teams99 with be the exact same community from red99.

So ya, people might play on teams99 (if it ever comes out), but red is here now and will have much more to do for everyone from solo play to raiding.

[Smedy]

red is plagued and i see it as beta test for what the pvp box shoulda been, we learned a lot from it

ill still logon red and drop a few bombs on retarded nihnilum players but i ain't gonna be spending a lot of time on a box where i get 1-2 pvp fights per week just saying.

[heartbrand]

R99 will have velious and prior to teams releasing, most, if not all, of the "broken" things will be fixed. In velious, every slot needs to be upgraded on every character, so previous "farming to death" will mean very little but an early advantage. The community on teams99 with be the exact same community from red99.

So ya, people might play on teams99 (if it ever comes out), but red is here now and will have much more to do for everyone from solo play to raiding.

Those upgrades are only obtainable if you're in Nihilum. If you're not in Nihilum, Velious doesn't really offer you anything at all other than getting corpse camped trying to farm Halls of Testing gear during off hours by a nilly SWAT crew. Incoming argument that Velious provides lots of new targets blah blah, Nihilum doesn't even have the numbers to kill the majority of targets in Velious, and you're going to tell us the other guilds will be able to? Lol? Velious is a raider first expansion, this ain't blue where people will be reliving the journey and experience of ToFS.

[jestingoff02]

there was a twitch.com thing and they said "there WILL be a merge there is no changing it" or something like that and i guess there WILL be item loot....

[Colgate]

Those upgrades are only obtainable if you're in Nihilum. If you're not in Nihilum, Velious doesn't really offer you anything at all other than getting corpse camped trying to farm Halls of Testing gear during off hours by a nilly SWAT crew. Incoming argument that Velious provides lots of new targets blah blah, Nihilum doesn't even have the numbers to kill the majority of targets in Velious, and you're going to tell us the other guilds will be able to? Lol? Velious is a raider first expansion, this ain't blue where people will be reliving the journey and experience of ToFS.

wtf heartbrand we can get bracers of benevolence and compete with vulak geared characters with that

[Kergan]

There isn't nearly enough people to sustain two PVP servers.

Can we agree that an ideal world we'd have double/triple or more the current population? I'm fairly sure the majority would agree with that. So how do you attract new players? They've tried experience bonuses and that helped to a degree. Some unforeseen things like EQMac getting pk'd helped.

I think the only thing left is a new server. No matter what people say there is always an initial interest. A chance to establish yourself. A chance for manastones and prenerf guises.

Doing a different rule set, which really has to involve some sort of team based deal or its just a second R99, also gives the devs and playerbase to see if that ruleset is more attractive to people.

So if the end result of this is we figure out the best ruleset and increase the total PVP population by a modest amount why fight it? I know it may suck to some people who have invested time in their characters, but it's not like that time will be lost when the servers merge.

[Nizzarr]

yea nihilum gonna be farming stones and guises like its nobody's business.

#teamnihilum

[Eslade]

I'm staying here. We're all going to end up on the same server, so why bother making a new toon? By the time most of you've caught up to where you used to be the servers are going to merge. I just don't see the point.

[Kergan]

yea nihilum gonna be farming stones and guises like its nobody's business.

#teamnihilum

I can already imagine the epic warfare over those items. DKP for holding Lower Guk!

[Dullah]

Those upgrades are only obtainable if you're in Nihilum. If you're not in Nihilum, Velious doesn't really offer you anything at all other than getting corpse camped trying to farm Halls of Testing gear during off hours by a nilly SWAT crew. Incoming argument that Velious provides lots of new targets blah blah, Nihilum doesn't even have the numbers to kill the majority of targets in Velious, and you're going to tell us the other guilds will be able to? Lol? Velious is a raider first expansion, this ain't blue where people will be reliving the journey and experience of ToFS.

There is more content in velious that can be accomplished by group or small raids than big raids.

not sure if dumb or retarded

[Kergan]

I'm staying here. We're all going to end up on the same server, so why bother making a new toon? By the time most of you've caught up to where you used to be the servers are going to merge. I just don't see the point.

I think there will be a decent amount of people who take advantage of low population R99 server. Keep in mind you can multibox between servers, so expect any decent loot dropping mob to have a level 60 glued to it. Raid targets will still die. I would just prepare to be solo'ing a lot for exp.

[Ebony]

I can already imagine the epic warfare over those items. DKP for holding Lower Guk!

Flowers will be holding Lower Guk, so good luck with that DKP :)

[Feniggles]

teams99 will only be worthwhile if the duke gives us dkp for playing it

[s1ckness]

There is more content in velious that can be accomplished by group or small raids than big raids.

not sure if dumb or retarded

think you are retarded

gear gap in velious is huge,

u must of played velious on a blue server

[Andis]

item loot = fail from the start

dont make this mistake

[Dullah]

think you are retarded

gear gap in velious is huge,

u must of played velious on a blue server

Faction armor will be obtainable by everyone, which gives quite a few good pieces. Not to mention dozens of great quest items, drops from dragons in ww/dn and a lot of gear from kunark which will no longer be farmed. 2h from tantor, exquisite velium, PoG armor, list goes on and on.

If you're comparing best in slot vulak items with everything else, yes theres a disparity, but thats end of end game.

Had a 60 monk on rallos zek name Rakariz during velious.

[Colgate]

yeah let me just compete with some bracers of benevolence against a guy with primal and pauldrons of deep flame ya dig?

[Lawler]

Nobody but pixel queens gonna be playing red when teams comes out anyways. Let them farm then have their no items merge, hehehehe.

[Dullah]

http://i.imgur.com/eA1qRbU.png

[jestingoff02]

http://i.imgur.com/eA1qRbU.png
::eek:

[Clark]

I see it as beta test for what the pvp box shoulda been, we learned a lot from it

[Kergan]

yeah let me just compete with some bracers of benevolence against a guy with primal and pauldrons of deep flame ya dig?

Isn't that kinda what you're doing now? Guessing by the grandmaster tag you're doing alright...

And yes the gear difference will grow in Velious, but I don't know if I'd go as far as saying it will be impossible to compete. Wizard nukes still do the same damage.

[HippoNipple]

Isn't that kinda what you're doing now? Guessing by the grandmaster tag you're doing alright...

And yes the gear difference will grow in Velious, but I don't know if I'd go as far as saying it will be impossible to compete. Wizard nukes still do the same damage.

They won't do the same damage because resists will be fixed to where wizards are forced to use lures. So damage will go down while HPs go up dramatically with Velious gear.

[Elderan]

Nobody but pixel queens gonna be playing red when teams comes out anyways. Let them farm then have their no items merge, hehehehe.

We will see those teams 99 people when they merge it into red about a year from now...

[Kergan]

They won't do the same damage because resists will be fixed to where wizards are forced to use lures. So damage will go down while HPs go up dramatically with Velious gear.

We're talking about different things. You're speaking to relative damage compared to now, I'm talking about gear making a difference with damage dealt - my point being that the best and worst geared casters will still do the same amount of damage in a single spell cast.

[HippoNipple]

We're talking about different things. You're speaking to relative damage compared to now, I'm talking about gear making a difference with damage dealt - my point being that the best and worst geared casters will still do the same amount of damage in a single spell cast.

Gear will not effect how much damage a caster does you are correct, but they will need to do more damage on someone that has good gear. It also limits the spells they can use. Mages and Enchanters have 0 spells they can use to do damage. Wizards can use their lure spell.

Primarily when people go into the gear debate it is with melee. Not only will melee have that same advantage of having much more hps with the better gear, but they will be hitting much harder, while the casters are doing less damage since they are limited on what spells they can use with the higher resists.

Gear is always bad for casters so bringing up the point that their spells aren't modified by something like spell power is irrelevant. The casters aren't more powerful dps wise with gear, but their targets are much tougher.

[Danien]

Gear will not effect how much damage a caster does you are correct, but they will need to do more damage on someone that has good gear. It also limits the spells they can use. Mages and Enchanters have 0 spells they can use to do damage. Wizards can use their lure spell.

Primarily when people go into the gear debate it is with melee. Not only will melee have that same advantage of having much more hps with the better gear, but they will be hitting much harder, while the casters are doing less damage since they are limited on what spells they can use with the higher resists.

Gear is always bad for casters so bringing up the point that their spells aren't modified by something like spell power is irrelevant. The casters aren't more powerful dps wise with gear, but their targets are much tougher.

Yes and no. I'm not saying casters are going to dominate melees in velious (quite far from it) but percentage wise casters hp will increase a lot more then melees will. That will make casters much more durable than they are now.

[Kergan]

Casters also gain a lot of mana but the spell costs stay the same. The net effect is less instagibs and more prolonged fights = better PVP.