Alecta Quote about Teams

[HippoNipple]

The 'non-management' staff members (no Nilbog or Rogean) had a call to discuss rulesets a few days ago during which we mainly reviewed some of the better community-contributed posts.

We're going to hammer some more details out over the next week or so. I would then like to gather some community feedback on the proposed ruleset.

This weekend I am going to be making a WBS (and hopefully publishing it) so people will have a clearer idea of what needs to be done / what has been done.

This came up on the blue server forums so I figured I would throw it out here for you guys to see. It was a thread started asking about when the team pvp server would open up.

[runlvlzero]

It was also posted here in Desperate Plea to P99 staff (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=127262&page=3)

The 'non-management' staff members (no Nilbog or Rogean) had a call to discuss rulesets a few days ago during which we mainly reviewed some of the better community-contributed posts.

We're going to hammer some more details out over the next week or so. I would then like to gather some community feedback on the proposed ruleset.

This weekend I am going to be making a WBS (and hopefully publishing it) so people will have a clearer idea of what needs to be done / what has been done.

please use to learn internet search features and stop multiposting stuff.

/pras alecta!

[SamwiseRed]

sullon zek ruleset and teams or abort t99.

[Lowlife]

pras alecta, also 500 posts w00t

imma fyregiant

[runlvlzero]

Aenor for teams99 rules developer!

imma fyregiant

Gratz!

[Kergan]

SZ ruleset will lead to the same result as SZ, a quick and easy domination by the evil team. Coupled with the fact that people here KNOW that evil = ez mode will lead to a huge population advantage in the beginning in addition to the other advantages.

Sorry pals, we can't just do it the same here we need to be better than that.

So I'd start by looking at the key advantages of SZ evil side:

1. Necros.

Why this is an advantage:
Necros (especially since the resist changes) are generally considered a top PVP class. Evil team has exclusive access. Additionally, they are the only class with summon corpse.

2. Shadowknights

Why this is an advantage:
SKs in this era tend to make the best/easiest low level tanks, especially considering the evil racial advantages (mentioned below). They are also considered a top pvp class and are exclusive to team evil.

3. Evil only races - ogre, troll and iksar

Why this is an advantage:
Iksars are either the best or 2nd best at any class they can be, especially once Velious is out. They are also the only starting race on the continent of Kunark (see below) and have the best 1-30 path by a huge margain. Ogres are the only race with frontal stun immunity. Ogres and trolls have huge stat advantages for SK/war.

4. Evil starting areas - Grobb/Oggok and Cabalis, specifically

Why this is advantage:
Owning zone control over Kunark at the beginning leads to long term control. The impact is minimized as time goes by, but it's hard to overtake someone who gets such a big head start. Gear is better in Kunark. Exp spots are better in Kunark. On top of that, ogres/trolls are the only races within 4 zones of each other.

ALL OTHER RACES aside from ogres, trolls and iksars can be of multiple alignments. This makes all other cities and low level areas automatically contested. Evil gnomes, humans, half elves and dark elves have to battle, although the vast majority of DEs will be evil.

The disadvantages for evil team? No rangers and paladins, neither of which add any unique abilities or are considered a great pvp class (although a well played paladin is a beast to kill).

So, the TLDR version:
Evils get the best races and the best spots to level uncontested while the other two teams get shittier classes/races and have to battle all three factions in bad exp areas.

[HippoNipple]

It was also posted here in Desperate Plea to P99 staff (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=127262&page=3)



please use to learn internet search features and stop multiposting stuff.

/pras alecta!

Bah I just saw him post it on blue forum and didn't know he posted the exact same thing in another thread. Either way it's nice to have it's own thread so people that don't normally dig through bullshit threads can read it.

Definitely not going to do a search on every post I make to ensure it isn't somewhere else.

[HippoNipple]

Also want to add it would be real nice if the GMS made another forum area under PvP forums for team pvp discussion. They already posted there that they want to get feed back from the players. There wouldn't be a better way to organize all the feed back.

[runlvlzero]

Bah I just saw him post it on blue forum and didn't know he posted the exact same thing in another thread. Either way it's nice to have it's own thread so people that don't normally dig through bullshit threads can read it.

Definitely not going to do a search on every post I make to ensure it isn't somewhere else.

/trolled! (hehe, I KNOW!, and lol, you did gud, I liked your post)

Also want to add it would be real nice if the GMS made another forum area under PvP forums for team pvp discussion. They already posted there that they want to get feed back from the players. There wouldn't be a better way to organize all the feed back.

This wud be grat if it didn't turn into a teams99 rnf and the idea of organizing all teams threads into a subforum so drama of the day doesn't flood the forums and we have to dig around for teams posts would be nice. (yes great idea)

[Kergan]

This wud be grat if it didn't turn into a teams99 rnf and the idea of organizing all teams threads into a subforum so drama of the day doesn't flood the forums and we have to dig around for teams posts would be nice. (yes great idea)

+1 on this. Need a T99 forum. Policed aggressively. Keep shit on topic and productive.

[Sirken]

sullon zek ruleset and teams or abort t99.

i will do everything in my power to ensure you never see legalized worldwide training, and to ensure that lvl 60s can not go to Crushbone and pwn lvl 12s on any P99 server.

theres a reason that SZ was the lowest population server in the history of EQ. if you want a no rules/no lvl limit server, you should look into starting your own because P99 wont be releasing a SZ clone.

training isnt pvp. training is what scrubs resort to when they suck at pvp. same thing applies to the scumbags that just want to level to 60 so they can gank people 40+ levels below them.

[BrobbVZ]

Sirken MY MAN. I completely agree.

[Sirken]

Also want to add it would be real nice if the GMS made another forum area under PvP forums for team pvp discussion. They already posted there that they want to get feed back from the players. There wouldn't be a better way to organize all the feed back.

notice we dont have a R99 section.. we have a PVP Section. both Teams PvP and FFA PvP is considered PvP and falls into the PvP section.

if u want to talk about teams, put it in the title of your thread, i assure you the staff has been silently reading these threads, as we discussed a few of the better ones in our recent Teams staff meeting. and as a matter of fact, it was indeed a players thread from the PvP section that we used as the basis of deciding the teams (pending approval from Rogean and Nilbog of course).

also, i promise we are not withholding infos for the lulz. there's just other (dev) things that need to be hammered out before we get down and dirty, and we dont want to share info until its set in stone, so that the players dont crucify us if we decide to change something after we announced it.

<3

[Lowlife]

+1 on this. Need a T99 forum. Policed aggressively. Keep shit on topic and productive.

seconded

[Elderan]

training isnt pvp. training is what scrubs resort to when they suck at pvp.

Azrael and VP... Enough said...

[Potus]

1. Necros.

Why this is an advantage:
Necros (especially since the resist changes) are generally considered a top PVP class.

Huh.

[Greegon]

yall deserve the trains anyways if you guys werent so dirty about everything people probably wouldnt be willing to train

[Lowlife]

Human VS Elf+Shorties VS Dark > Good VS Neutral VS Evil

[s1ckness]

Meatballed.org

[magician]

i will do everything in my power to ensure you never see legalized worldwide training,

.

[Rallyd]

i will do everything in my power to ensure you never see legalized worldwide training, and to ensure that lvl 60s can not go to Crushbone and pwn lvl 12s on any P99 server.

theres a reason that SZ was the lowest population server in the history of EQ. if you want a no rules/no lvl limit server, you should look into starting your own because P99 wont be releasing a SZ clone.

training isnt pvp. training is what scrubs resort to when they suck at pvp. same thing applies to the scumbags that just want to level to 60 so they can gank people 40+ levels below them.

Hmm.. this is a 180.. So Sirken openly admitting that Azrael are scrubs and suck at pvp. This is news!

[Salem Orchid]

^ fat virgin nerd

[Nads]

^ fat virgin nerd

chuckled heartily.

[Origin]

Sweet! Sounds like t99 is gonna be the real!

[Retti_]

^ fat virgin nerd

Bad at eq, tosses pokeballs and makes rl comments cus loser

[Sektor]

Rallyd good peeps

[Knawga]

only thing i would like to see on T99 is Looting items and money and a 4 to 6 lvl spread for pvp 8 seems to much being a lvl 52 necro fighting lvl 60 people i kill them but it is very difficult especially before the splurt change even though it always landed anyways and lifetap change so im excitied for the new server to maybe roll a necro again and have fun with that but yeh looting money / gear and 4 to 6 lvl spread

[Exotics]

wipe red imo

[Dullah]

training isnt pvp. training is what scrubs resort to when they suck at pvp. same thing applies to the scumbags that just want to level to 60 so they can gank people 40+ levels below them.

[s1ckness]

Azrael and VP... Enough said...

didnt nizzar just get banned for training?

[s1ckness]

Hmm.. this is a 180.. So Sirken openly admitting that Azrael are scrubs and suck at pvp. This is news!

if you didnt know, rallyd posted his pic on vztz and it looked JUST LIKE THIS GUY BELOW


http://076dd0a50e0c1255009e-bd4b8aabaca29897bc751dfaf75b290c.r40.cf1.rackcdn.c om/images/files/000/970/212/original/original.jpg

[s1ckness]

only thing i would like to see on T99 is Looting items and money and a 4 to 6 lvl spread for pvp 8 seems to much being a lvl 52 necro fighting lvl 60 people i kill them but it is very difficult especially before the splurt change even though it always landed anyways and lifetap change so im excitied for the new server to maybe roll a necro again and have fun with that but yeh looting money / gear and 4 to 6 lvl spread

item loot would be cool

, also i think the teams server should be custom, like you cant send tells to good if you are evil, only can talk in ooc so people cant spy /cross team..

[Bamz4l]

pras alecta, also 500 posts w00t

imma fyregiant

now ur at 510 posts, meaning u post too fucking much

[Lowlife]

not enuff

[Yagebasto]

item loot would be cool

, also i think the teams server should be custom, like you cant send tells to good if you are evil, only can talk in ooc so people cant spy /cross team..

take out common tongue. boom

[Salem Orchid]

Retti mad no amount of pixels can stop him from getting texted by big salem

[SamwiseRed]

i will do everything in my power to ensure you never see legalized worldwide training, and to ensure that lvl 60s can not go to Crushbone and pwn lvl 12s on any P99 server.

theres a reason that SZ was the lowest population server in the history of EQ. if you want a no rules/no lvl limit server, you should look into starting your own because P99 wont be releasing a SZ clone.

training isnt pvp. training is what scrubs resort to when they suck at pvp. same thing applies to the scumbags that just want to level to 60 so they can gank people 40+ levels below them.

Sorry u feel that way, vz tz was blue as fuck tho

[SamwiseRed]

It will be hard to convince bluebies that SZ is the best way to go but I ensure you I will do evertything in my power to try. It's taken almost 2 years of others and I to get a teams server going. I hope retards don't ruin it.

[Potus]

I have no problem with a server that allows training as long as Root/Mez lands 100% of the time.

[SamwiseRed]

Lets just be realistic here training cannot be enforced. It's happened since classic and still happens today. Without everyone running fraps and logs 24/7 it's going to continue. There's a reason SZ was the way it was. The best pvp server to ever exist. Verdant learned how pvp teams should be after they saw how much of a failure the cross teaming servers were. We want a classic Ruleset for our classic pvp server. Project 1999 last time I checked. No need for custom bs

[s1ckness]

i like SZ rules but it would NEVER work in this community and would have a shit population,
id rather see 500-700 eqmac players on it instead

[Potus]

Lets just be realistic here training cannot be enforced. It's happened since classic and still happens today. Without everyone running fraps and logs 24/7 it's going to continue. There's a reason SZ was the way it was. The best pvp server to ever exist.

Because Verant was too cheap to hire GMs. That's why it was the No Rules server. It's why future games like WoW don't let the two factions talk to each other. It leads to petitions and the need for GMs.

[SamwiseRed]

There were barely 200 eq Mac players lol and that was with boxing enabled(sometimes even 10 boxing) there will not that be that many eqmac players if any coming over

[SamwiseRed]

SZ had gms. They dealt with other issues tho

[s1ckness]

There were barely 200 eq Mac players lol and that was with boxing enabled(sometimes even 10 boxing) there will not that be that many eqmac players if any coming over

there is alot more than 200 eqmac players, near the end when it was going down it went down to about 200 but there is also over 1k people that r on forums/ waiting around for something 2happen. kinda like these forums and waiting for teams99

[SamwiseRed]

Maybe i am only speaking Fromm experiences when I played there

[Ele]

training isnt pvp. training is what scrubs resort to when they suck at pvp.

ho ho ho

[Fame]

Waiting for my thank you