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Bohab
11-06-2013, 02:20 PM
As Velious draws ever closer... (hopefully?) what were the must have weapons for warrior during that era? Does the time of the Warrior Epic, Blade of the Black Dragon Eye, Ringed Mace of the Ykesha, Sarnak Warhammer, Yak Scimitar, etc... etc... come to an end as far as THE aggro weapons to have as a warrior (as it has been for the last few years)?

Can anyone come up with have a low, mid, and high end weapon must have list for warriors during Velious?

Yumyums Inmahtumtums
11-06-2013, 02:23 PM
High end droppables were definately Blade of Carnage and Sceptre of Destruction.

Club of the Ice Ocean was another popular one I saw well into PoP.

Wiery
11-06-2013, 02:28 PM
Swiftblade of Zek & Blade of Carnage - Not sure where they'll rank on p99, but those are the weapons I think about, when I imagine a Velious warrior.

Melissa
11-06-2013, 02:47 PM
in addition to the above:

Willsapper
SG:slow 1hs Breath of something?
Snowchipper
Frostbringer?
Golden Hackle hammer dain drop

Itap
11-06-2013, 02:47 PM
Just a few that are droppable


http://zam.zamimg.com/images/f/e/fe310b3210deb8b421b8246c4cfd6fe8.png


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For some reason I remember this proc generating a lot of aggro


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http://zam.zamimg.com/images/d/c/dc18895aea0b36931601b0494efe7343.png


But remember, even during Velious, a lot of warriors still didn't even have their epics yet. I remember waiting for the assist on raid mobs so the warrior could generate enough threat, not just spamming mallets

Obligatory SoZ


http://zam.zamimg.com/images/d/4/d48b6f9517269660c4f511c498df4a2a.png

Melissa
11-06-2013, 02:48 PM
IMO, swiftblade was more of a bard/ranger/rogue/sk/pal weapon unless the war wasn't MT and just dps'ing

Frieza_Prexus
11-06-2013, 02:54 PM
definately Blade of Carnage

http://i.imgur.com/2AfIFHQ.png

Yumyums Inmahtumtums
11-06-2013, 02:54 PM
I remember using Poison Axe with my Rogue and constantly doing corpse runs.

Your argument is valid.

It's basically the same proc as a Ykesha with a better dmg/dly.

Ele
11-06-2013, 03:02 PM
Did someone say Blade of Carnage? Upgraded after Luclin launches. Here is the Velious version:

http://i.imgur.com/oBtsci7.jpg

dwightgeary
11-06-2013, 03:03 PM
willsapper is prob one of the best weapons for tank in velious for agro

Alarti0001
11-06-2013, 03:06 PM
willsapper is prob one of the best weapons for tank in velious for agro

and SoD!

dwightgeary
11-06-2013, 03:07 PM
oh yes and SoD sorry forgot


SoD is amazing

dwightgeary
11-06-2013, 03:08 PM
my favorite weapon of all time and still is which my warrior used willsapper and my favorite " Claw of lighting " all the way threw velious or as long as i could lol but love the class look on the iksars back in the day

Itap
11-06-2013, 03:12 PM
willsapper is prob one of the best weapons for tank in velious for agro

I linked the best droppable aggro weapons, the No Drop list would be a lot longer :p

dwightgeary
11-06-2013, 03:14 PM
i didnt see club of ice ocean :P alwayz was a decent weapon for warriors

dwightgeary
11-06-2013, 03:16 PM
if they dont fix flash of light and them kinda spells on this server the "entropy serpent spine " is gonna be OP

Itap
11-06-2013, 03:24 PM
i didnt see club of ice ocean :P alwayz was a decent weapon for warriors

true, added it to OP

Yumyums Inmahtumtums
11-06-2013, 03:25 PM
NEED MOAR BLAED UB KARNAJ!!

pasi
11-06-2013, 03:33 PM
The Veeshan's Peak weapons hold up very well throughout Velious. Velious mostly addresses the gap between Epic/SoS/Feverblade (Epic and FB should be a bit worse than they are currently) and Sarnak/Snare Whip.

For the have-nots:
Chelaki Tail (mainhand)
Wavecrasher (mainhand)
Frostbringer (offhand)

For the semi-haves:
Willsapper (mainhand)
Blade of Strategy (offhand)
Neb's Warbone (offhand)

For the haves:
Sceptre of Destruction (mainhand)
Primal Warsword (offhand)
Jaelen's Katana (mainhand/offhand)

For the really really haves:
Sceptre of Destruction mainhand
Sceptre of Destruction offhand w/ Primal Warsword to swap out for procs.

There's a bunch of NToV weaponry that's pretty passable, but not crazy for the purposes of aggro. Kreizzen's Flame (primary) saw a lot of use on live, and it's pretty good. Claw of Lightning was thought of as shit on live, and looking back, I attribute that to people being dumb. Trident of the Deep Sea is alright as well.

A lot of the listings here are not very good from the aggro side of things. Like Snare Whip is superior to Club of the Ice Ocean for the purposes of aggro.

pasi
11-06-2013, 03:41 PM
I remember using Poison Axe with my Rogue and constantly doing corpse runs.

Your argument is valid.

It's basically the same proc as a Ykesha with a better dmg/dly.

The main reason Ykesha procs generate so much aggro is through the stun which is usually 400ish hate. The 75DD is just icing on the cake.

The Venomous Axe proc doesn't have the stun, so it just has the hate from the proc's DD which isn't much.

With that said, I'm pretty sure the Axe used to proc at level 1 along with Dojo's Axe. Will look into that.

Ele
11-06-2013, 03:42 PM
Wavecrasher on live release had a 70% unresistable slow, but was nerfed to 20% within a few months.

Willsapper on live release was 50% slow and later reduced to 35% also within a few months.

dwightgeary
11-06-2013, 03:42 PM
yea it proc at lvl 1 until they put a lvl req on it in luclin ?

Itap
11-06-2013, 03:44 PM
With that said, I'm pretty sure the Axe used to proc at level 1 along with Dojo's Axe. Will look into that.

It did, which made it a great leveling weapon. There is a huge gap in regards to aggro weapons during kunark, as you pointed out.

pasi
11-06-2013, 03:47 PM
Wavecrasher on live release had a 70% unresistable slow, but was nerfed to 20% within a few months.

Willsapper on live release was 50% slow and later reduced to 35% also within a few months.

I think we all agreed there's -no fucking way- that we'll launch with classic Wavecrasher.

BTW, Wavecrasher also procs at level 1. So does blind whip and everything from NToV (not that the latter matters much).

Ele
11-06-2013, 03:50 PM
I think we all agreed there's -no fucking way- that we'll launch with classic Wavecrasher.

BTW, Wavecrasher also procs at level 1. So does blind whip and everything from NToV (not that the latter matters much).

Would be insane and detrimental, but I don't think Nilbog ever came down with an official statement.

Splorf22
11-06-2013, 03:57 PM
Would be insane and detrimental, but I don't think Nilbog ever came down with an official statement.

What was that about the Blade of Carnage?

Itap
11-06-2013, 03:58 PM
What was that about the Blade of Carnage?

Don't be facetious

Yumyums Inmahtumtums
11-06-2013, 04:00 PM
The main reason Ykesha procs generate so much aggro is through the stun which is usually 400ish hate. The 75DD is just icing on the cake.

The Venomous Axe proc doesn't have the stun, so it just has the hate from the proc's DD which isn't much.

With that said, I'm pretty sure the Axe used to proc at level 1 along with Dojo's Axe. Will look into that.

I distinctly remember this weapon having a L37 requirement to proc. This would have been late-Luclin or early PoP as I had quit for a while just after Velious release.

It might have been L1 before a certain patch though in which case, WTB Poison Axe!!!

pasi
11-06-2013, 04:08 PM
April 9th, 2002.
Venomous Axe of the Velium Brood proc effect is now level restricted

Really though, people are going to be very surprised that a fuckload of weapons in Velious proc at level 1.

Ele
11-06-2013, 04:13 PM
What was that about the Blade of Carnage?

I think they should come in as original. Wavecrasher and Willsapper would just be insane and detrimental for a few months combined with unnerfed Donal's BPs. :D

Itap
11-06-2013, 04:18 PM
Nerf the BP and Weapons on day 1 of Velious launch

Yumyums Inmahtumtums
11-06-2013, 04:20 PM
Prepare your anuses!