Plane of Growth: Tunare Challenge!

[Aeolwind]

If anyone remembers the Tunare encounter in Growth feel free to pipe up. In the first bit of Velious the encounter was changed numerous times. For posterity, we'd like to collect as many as possible. I was non-kos in POG and roamed around a lot and played with Tunare quite a bit with gate.

1) Tunare, the 1 HP wonder...without loot
2) Tunare, the 1 HP wonder...with loot and a 10 minute respawn timer.
3) Tunare the Frightened! Would despawn if aggro'd and any mobs were left alive, then respawn when they were all dead, then despawn when the POG's spawned, and respawn with full health when they died again.
4) Tunare the Battle Maiden. No despawn at all, fight her in her tree, until everything in the zone warps on top of you.
5) Tunare, with 150% more zerg. Aggros with POGs, which aggros rest of zone. CHAARGE!
6) Tunare the Timid. Despawns when aggro'd and respawns outside the tree. Then respawns again instantly back in the treet.
7) Tiny Tunare. Shrunk to size of POM puppet, now immune to everything.
8) Tunare the Schizophrenic. When hailed, shouted about 'UNKNOWN ENTITY TYPE', despawned in the tree and spawned outside, then respawned in the tree leaving the ability to have dozens of copies outside.
9) Tunare the Cruel. Upon summoning her bear pet, she would immediately, turn, punch and kill the bear, then resummon.

[khanable]

10) Tunare, the kind: summons cucumbers to zone and showers him in loots

[liveitup1216]

10) Tunare, the kinky: summons cucumbers to zone and showers


awwwww yeeeeeah

[Retti_]

Ugg forgot about tunare complexity and logistics

Bear puncher sounds like a real cunt.

Raid tunare had all mini bosses agro if they were up and those mini bosses would have all their minion types assist is all I can contribute, if I recall correctly..

[Thulack]

i remember number 4 with such fond memories lol

[Ele]

The early fights I recall we could pull Tunare anywhere in the zone and she had that serious knockback going on, so we pulled her in that castle over on the south wall by the lake after clearing the rest of the zone. Didn't go so well, but was fun seeing 60 wolves attack her (they had the druids cast share wolf form as their contribution for the fight).

Later, post Luclin, we killed her in her rooted form out on the battlefield with ogre/troll walls to stop the knockback.

[Ele]

What about Tunare's Itemization? Using timeline or from Day Zero?

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1150867&postcount=23

[myxomatosii]

This is so foreign to me as I was a scrub in Velious era, was this like a constantly re-patched Tunare that changed at the whim of EQLive-devs or was it designed so that you never knew which one you were gonna get?

I've read a bit about PoG on the forums, and while I recall the special resist flowers, Kael (my favorite velious zone with Velks) etc etc, I never got to see any of this kind of stuff. So can anyone tell me, what was the deal? From an outside point of view, recreating such a 'fantastical' zone must be quite a ridiculous undertaking.

[Thulack]

This is so foreign to me as I was a scrub in Velious era, was this like a constantly re-patched Tunare that changed at the whim of EQLive-devs or was it designed so that you never knew which one you were gonna get?

I've read a bit about PoG on the forums, and while I recall the special resist flowers, Kael (my favorite velious zone with Velks) etc etc, I never got to see any of this kind of stuff. So can anyone tell me, what was the deal? From an outside point of view, recreating such a 'fantastical' zone must be quite a ridiculous undertaking.

Resist flowers were plane of mischief. Thats the zone they probably having the most issues remaking.

[myxomatosii]

Resist flowers were plane of mischief. Thats the zone they probably having the most issues remaking.

Oh yea, like I said foreign.

Was that one released on launch and was PoG like a straightforward zone like PoF PoH PoS type of things? Tank n spank, keys and triggers.

Also curious. How well will the TMO 24/7 tracking model transition into Velious?

[pasi]

Aggroing Tunare did not technically aggro the rest of the Plane.

Aggroing Tunare caused almost all of the NPCs in the zone to path to a specific location - which is something different than aggro. Of course if they got there, they would then assist Tunare. You can confirm this is true by aggroing Tunare then FDing.

[Retti_]

If thats true then is it the rooted tunare causing mini bosses to run to rooted spot (and minions of mini bosses if mini boss of that type is up)?

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Give the PoG's death touch. Put moar bixies in game. They also should be given death touch.

in seriousness, I never remember people not clearing the zone, not for armor drops but because of some mechanism of zone wide butthurt. It was not practical.

I also am not sure if she even was aggro?

[Wotsirb401]

The only one I remember was a giant one in the open. We would clear the entire zone and then engage her out in the open. I hardly remember her loot table or the encounter but i remember killing and tanking her from time time. I was 13 give me a break !

[pasi]

I'm not sure of the actual code on whether Tunare is calling the mini-bosses to a location and then the mini-bosses calling their minions.

What I do know is that if you aggro Tunare and then immediately FD, the vast majority of the zone will still path to her location - not just the minis.

The distinction between aggro and calling is pretty large though. Not to mention, it takes a very long time for the entire zone to reach that point. You're basically just temporarily interrupting their pathing by setting a destination. When the mobs do hit that destination, they path back to the spot where their original pathing was interrupted (provided that they do not proximity aggro someone).

I didn't kill her until Luclin though, so I'm not exactly sure how earlier incarnations of her functioned.
I should clarify - By earlier incarnations, I'm talking specifically about FoH's kill. Afterlife had killed the perma-rooted version.

[Aeolwind]

The early fights I recall we could pull Tunare anywhere in the zone and she had that serious knockback going on, so we pulled her in that castle over on the south wall by the lake after clearing the rest of the zone. Didn't go so well, but was fun seeing 60 wolves attack her (they had the druids cast share wolf form as their contribution for the fight).

Later, post Luclin, we killed her in her rooted form out on the battlefield with ogre/troll walls to stop the knockback.
Not sure which we'll go with, they all have benefits and detriments. The rooted level 70 version with knockback was stiff, but the pullable level 66 version had it's difficulties as well. Would be nice to get her difficulty on par with what it was 'at time', but with the limitations of the combat still I don't think that'll be possible.

What about Tunare's Itemization? Using timeline or from Day Zero?

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1150867&postcount=23
I'd hope to tie them to the Tunare 'version'. Day zero loot sucked, Timeline loot stretched into Luclin and were slightly overpowered, but she was a slightly overpowered whore too.

[Aeolwind]

I didn't kill her until Luclin though, so I'm not exactly sure how earlier incarnations of her functioned.

No one really did, first few times she was killed she loaded no loot or the corpse poofed on death lol.

Version 4 was the 'real' first version, version 2 was 'kitable', version 3 was the one that spawned rooted in the field. Those will be the ones we'll decide between. But scripting some of the bugs like beating her bear to death might be fun.*

*No development will be wasted on 'fun'.

[Erati]

Tunare dropped no items during Velious

she should drop nothing here

[Splorf22]

BLADE OF CARNAGE! LONG LIVE THE REBELLION!

[Tasslehofp99]

I remember having to clear the plane + kill the 2 puma things (pain in the ass since one silenced and the other had a DD AE) and then engaging tunare last. However, I predict that on p99 it's going to go down similar to how CT does. Should be fun.

[idontbuff]

The one thing I remember about doing Tunare was having a boat load of ogres to block you when you got knock backed. Other than that, I don't remember her loot table or anything. I did this during Velious though, never waited until Luclin to kill her.

[Ele]

I'd hope to tie them to the Tunare 'version'. Day zero loot sucked, Timeline loot stretched into Luclin and were slightly overpowered, but she was a slightly overpowered whore too.

The link in my post includes evidence showing that the big drops (FT3/5) occurred before Luclin.

[Ele]

Tunare dropped no items during Velious

she should drop nothing here

Incorrect.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1150867&postcount=23

[Aeolwind]

Compare Fist of Nature to Fist of Lightning (and other Velious type fist weapons to be honest) please Ele. Something in the brain box just went 'twang'.

I'm pretty sure those 'Fist' items were not Velious Era.

Fuck monks.*

*Development does not hate monks.

[Ele]

BLADE OF CARNAGE! LONG LIVE THE REBELLION!

This will be a day long remembered. It has seen the end of Carnage, it will soon see the end of the Rebellion.

[Aeolwind]

The link in my post includes evidence showing that the big drops (FT3/5) occurred before Luclin.

I'm pretty sure Tunare's items got an upgrade at the same time the Avatar of War loot did.

[Retti_]

She had a trigger mechanic around her house or tree(?) That put the raid version out there (rooted one iirc) with loot yes

And im fairly certain killing mini bosses prevented the minions of that type from assisting

[pasi]

Incorrect.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1150867&postcount=23

Your July screencap of the indoors Tunare is associating Sap Encrusted Branch with the incorrect graphic. That was a screenshot of the original (and indoor) Tunare which has a stave, but no loot table.

Compare Fist of Nature to Fist of Lightning (and other Velious type fist weapons to be honest) please Ele. Something in the brain box just went 'twang'.

I'm pretty sure those 'Fist' items were not Velious Era.

Yeah, I'm thinking one of 2 things:
1) Fist of Nature was originally 1hand blunt, but was changed to HtH with the post-Luclin patch that modified Tunare's table (adding recommended levels, MHT getting a BS mod, etc.)
2) Fist of Nature was added to Tunare's table with the post-Luclin patch that modified Tunare's table.

[Retti_]

Naw naw

[pasi]

Fuck monks.*

*Development does not hate monks.

Speaking of shitting on classes, what time are Devs currently putting Porlos/Hsarga's Fury spells into?

[Aeolwind]

Speaking of shitting on classes, what time are Devs currently putting Porlos/Hsarga's Fury spells into?

I'm sure Ele will tell me in a minute.

[Ele]

Compare Fist of Nature to Fist of Lightning (and other Velious type fist weapons to be honest) please Ele. Something in the brain box just went 'twang'.

I'm pretty sure those 'Fist' items were not Velious Era.

Fuck monks.*

*Development does not hate monks.

The "Fists" are Velious era but were tagged 1 Hand Blunt. However, I have not been able to locate a Pre-Luclin source on Fists of Nature.

There was an old bug report here (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=60714), that reversed the original weapon tags of "Hand to Hand" on the Plane of Sky weapons. That bug report seemed to indicate that there were no "Hand to Hand" weapons before Luclin, and that the items were "1 Hand Blunt". After looking around, I would have to agree that "Hand to Hand" was a Luclin+ modification to all the "Fist" weapons.

Whitened Trent Fist / Wu's Tranquil Fist / Wu's Fist of Mastery are already 1 Hand Blunt, based on the prior patch change.

Primal (http://web.archive.org/web/20011224184326/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6827)/Priceless Fist Wraps (http://web.archive.org/web/20011125025645/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6826):
Source is in Japanese (help Zagum!) regarding Gareth the Trader that upgrades primal/priceless knights' sword and monk wraps.
http://www.tokyo2001.com/game/eq/quest/eastwastes/eastwasters09.html
Nilbog previously quoted from this page (or a copy of it) and it puts the date of Gareth late Velious. http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=31239&postcount=35

Monk用の１ＨＢの交換Questもあるようです
(噂では15/20の１ＨＢになると聞いてます)

http://i.imgur.com/kV7xfHI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LbQFHmF.jpg


ToV 1 Hand Blunts:

Fist of Lightning (http://web.archive.org/web/20011201185622/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6828):
http://i.imgur.com/itJ6Wi4.jpg

Gharn's Rock of Smashing (http://web.archive.org/web/20011030063357/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6487) (Pre/Post-Upgrade):
http://i.imgur.com/LU8ODzK.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/hLMrjkz.jpg

Wurmscale Fistwraps (http://web.archive.org/web/20020112031214/http://eq.castersrealm.com/data/item.asp?Id=5171)
http://i.imgur.com/jUMgrPM.gif

[Ele]

I'm sure Ele will tell me in a minute.

Speaking of shitting on classes, what time are Devs currently putting Porlos/Hsarga's Fury spells into?

March 27, 2001 (http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20010327.html) (Post Velious Release - Couple weeks after-Plane Revamps)

Wizards now have access to a new type of spell that only works on certain types of target. Generically called 'bane' spells, a few are now available in the game. May your quest for such spells be successful.

Requires 2 Peridots per cast (http://www.graffe.com/graffe1.0/spells/level60.htm).*

Go Wizards!**

**Not Really

Edit:
http://www.graffe.com/graffe1.0/library/wizardly_faq.htm

Q: What Dragons can I hit with Dragon's Bane?
A: Warders in Sleepers Tomb, Yelinak, Tov dragons with Lord or Lady in their name. No Kunark Dragons.
(Minka Zaubermaus)

Q: What Giants can I hit with Giant's Bane?
A: King Tormax, Vindicator, Velketor, Narandi.
(Minka Zaubermaus)

Q: Do I need be in melee-range for banes?
A: No. Line of Sight is all you need.
(Minka Zaubermaus)

Q: Is the aggro generated by banes the same as for other direct damage spells?
A: No, it is lower than expected considering the damage. *NB* Giant's have very strange aggro so be careful baning them - they don't like it.

[Alarti0001]

I'm sure Ele will tell me in a minute.

Something like 3-4 months after vel release meh

[pasi]

You don't really have to go that deep for Garath. There's English posts about him in Nov 2001 on allakhazam.

http://web.archive.org/web/20020622091158/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?zone=110

The fact that he would have been put in around the time Tunare started to go down, and Primal Fists were 1HB also suggests FoN were either option #1 or #2.

[Ele]

Your July screencap of the indoors Tunare is associating Sap Encrusted Branch with the incorrect graphic. That was a screenshot of the original (and indoor) Tunare which has a stave, but no loot table.

Cheerfully withdrawn.

http://i.imgur.com/BSjeQXF.jpg



Yeah, I'm thinking one of 2 things:
1) Fist of Nature was originally 1hand blunt, but was changed to HtH with the post-Luclin patch that modified Tunare's table (adding recommended levels, MHT getting a BS mod, etc.)
2) Fist of Nature was added to Tunare's table with the post-Luclin patch that modified Tunare's table.

Unless someone can locate a Pre-Luclin source for Fists of Nature, I'm beginning to believe #2 is correct.

You don't really have to go that deep for Garath. There's English posts about him in Nov 2001 on allakhazam.

Yeah, he is definitely time line appropriate. Was just using the Japanese thing as a starting point for finding 1HB sources for the Primal/Priceless Fistwraps. Had to get to the Zam versions of the 1HB wraps in a round about manner.

[pharmakos]

ele should have some sort of special forum tag below his name, for srs

[Ambrotos]

I know when we killed Tunare for the first time we pulled her to a zone wall, and took forever to kill. We had cleared the zone as much as we could, but we were getting respawns. Not too sure if we had a bard out getting agro to kite them off, just remember a few showing up mid fight, and off tanking or kiting them off.

I also know wizards were useless on her and we couldn't land anything. We all logged on twinked alts over wizards. Not sure about disease/poison resists.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Not sure which we'll go with, they all have benefits and detriments. The rooted level 70 version with knockback was stiff, but the pullable level 66 version had it's difficulties as well. Would be nice to get her difficulty on par with what it was 'at time', but with the limitations of the combat still I don't think that'll be possible.


I'd hope to tie them to the Tunare 'version'. Day zero loot sucked, Timeline loot stretched into Luclin and were slightly overpowered, but she was a slightly overpowered whore too.


rooted lvl 70 version plz. that was the sugar. The poison was the knockback. My 2 cents.

Ogre wall ftw.

[Retti_]

Wasnt she rooted in a small valley and you could los over the baby hills?

[Cyph]

For someone who never played EQ when Tunare was around... why were we killing 'good' deities?

[kaev]

Cyph, most likely it had something to do with "phat lewtz".

[Llodd]

Or just, because, "we can"

[distung]

Umm, if memory serves me right as a raiding monk at the time, Fist of Nature was definitely velious-era. Not sure how you would think it's not possible at 15/18 since Fist of Lightning was the same (albeit off-hand only and no HP stats, but has haste).

The fist of nature + fist of lightning combo was used for dual wielding dps (15/18 + 15/18) monks. You would also see Fist of Nature + Primal for those who didn't need the haste and preferred the stat boost on primal (also better for soloing due to Avatar buff).

I had the Baton of Flame (13/17) + Fist of Lightning (15/18) combo.
My brother had the Fist of Nature (15/18) + Primal (15/20) combo. (He used Brother Xave's Headband off of Vulak for haste so preferred stats on Primal). This was all during the Velious era, as he quit shortly after the Luclin released while I continued on to PoP. Of course, you can argue the point of my memory on that. Also, hand to hand weapons were only introduced during Luclin and so the weapons were all 1HB before that (retroactively changed later).

Of course, Fist of Nature was not on the original Tunare loot table. As I recall, her original loot table was either crap or nonexistent when FoH downed her about the same time that Legacy of Steel teamed up with another guild (can't recall name) to down AoW. As an aside, it's also about the same time Blood of the Spider on my server (The Rathe) did the first Sleeper awakening ever. I was 15 or 16 at the time so some details can't be recalled. Now I'm going off topic with this history lesson so I'll stop here.

Edit final note:
Fist of Lightning and Baton of Flame was also DEFINITELY velious-era, as I had them both since about level 55 and I hit 60 well before Luclin release (I recall the dawning realization of the grindfest that was AAs).

[Ele]

For someone who never played EQ when Tunare was around... why were we killing 'good' deities?

The evils could get their revenge for years of pillaging by the lights of Fear/Hate and slaying of their gods Cazic and Innoruuk, or loot.

[pasi]

Umm, if memory serves me right as a raiding monk at the time, Fist of Nature was definitely velious-era. Not sure how you would think it's not possible at 15/18 since Fist of Lightning was the same (albeit off-hand only and no HP stats, but has haste).


The issue is not the stats on Fist of Nature, but rather that we can't find any evidence of it existing prior to Luclin. The fact that the first screenshots of it are also as a Hand to Hand item further suggest that it was likely added in during the revamp of Tunare/AoW loot.

[distung]

You may well be right on this, I'll try to do some more digging. The gap between the takedown of Tunare and the release of Luclin is small enough to question this.

[FenninEQaddict]

Fist of Nature werent introduced to game until around beginning of 2002. Luclin was released in 2001 in like December(iirc).

[Ele]

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.games.everquest/OWp7KhrwEow/SMiXZgbLZCcJ

>Tunare isn't a mob where you need obscene healing power. Tunare is a
>mob where you need obscene damage output. You can have 50 clerics, if
>you can't generate the damage to overwhelm her regen, you ain't
>killing her.
>
>Tunare's damage output compared to most mobs of her calibre is
>actually low.
>
News on the grapevine is that isn't true any more. Went from 2-300 hits
to 7-900 hits most often on the MT (big ATK upgrade), delay reduction,
proc rate increased, and a possible regen increase.

This is second hand info, so don't take it as gospel, but I was told
this by someone who was there at a killing on a different sever.

Anyone killed Tunare recently shed any light on this rumour?

[Ele]

http://web.archive.org/web/20020528195531/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/

Listed as new item on Zam May 2002

May 23, 2002

FYI: This upcoming Monday (the 27th) is Memorial Day in the United States so we'll be going the entire day with no Tech Support.

Allakhazam has done some sneaking around at E3 and has filed a top secret report here.

-Railus

Some updates:

New Items: Ishinaear Xiall ; Fine Heraldic Bracer ; Fists of Nature ; Baleen Plate Helm ; Tracking Wolf Collar ; Young Plains Cat Scalp ; Rat Meat ; Gnome Meat ; Faceted Sapphire ; Faceted Emerald ; Faceted Diamond ; Unrefined Diamond ; Unrefined Emerald ; Unrefined Sapphire ; Siren's Hair ; Bottle of Milk ;

http://web.archive.org/web/20020604023044/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=12308

Last updated as May 23, 2002

Unless someone kind find earlier evidence or a picture with Monk only/1HB this is looking like a Luclin+ item.

[Arteker]

The link in my post includes evidence showing that the big drops (FT3/5) occurred before Luclin.

i can say i got tunare 2hs pre luclin but before the hander upgrade it was 50 hps not 100

[Arteker]

The issue is not the stats on Fist of Nature, but rather that we can't find any evidence of it existing prior to Luclin. The fact that the first screenshots of it are also as a Hand to Hand item further suggest that it was likely added in during the revamp of Tunare/AoW loot.

Tunare fist as i recall was added later, most high end monks run the primal , fol,wurmscalefistwraps.

or the Blam stick :p

[Shinko]

2) Tunare, the 1 HP wonder...with loot and a 10 minute respawn timer. pretty sure she was like the all the time

[Cyph]

In regards to killing her, fair enough. Was just wondering if there was some lore around it.

[koros]

It was all about Gharns and Primal/Fist of lightning for max damage. Pretty sure the first was indeed added later.

http://www.silentredemption.org/showitem.cgi?iid=376

http://www.silentredemption.org/showitem.cgi?iid=363

Here's some dates for the other items. 2001 date on the Melody makes it seem like it was in.

[nilbog]

I'm currently developing this zone, so any additional input is welcome.

The protector script I made works great.

I did have some initial issues with the mini bosses 'calling' particular npcs to an area without adding someone to their hatelist, but I like what I came up with.

Is there a certain amount of time the npcs waited after arriving to their summoner's area? i.e. keeper of the glades calls phase pumas. They path to the location he called them from. How long do they stay before pathing back? Right now I have it set to a few seconds.

edit: additions

Might as well add this here. As far as mini bosses who call npcs to them:

keeper of the glades - phase pumas
Rumbleroot - serene forest spirits
Treah Greenroot - sylvan protectors
Fayl Everstrong - entolling mobs
Odongo Bodongo - entolling mobs

Is that correct? I'm not sure about Odongo, but I saw it listed on one guide.

[pasi]

Is there a certain amount of time the npcs waited after arriving to their summoner's area? i.e. keeper of the glades calls phase pumas. They path to the location he called them from. How long do they stay before pathing back? Right now I have it set to a few seconds.

I touched upon this earlier, but they don't really stay at all - it's just setting a new temporary pathing position before they return to their old. I can maybe get around to FRAPSing this on live soon.

[pasi]

So I fooled around in PoGrowth for a bit.

Mechanically, this is how NPC calling works. I'll use Treah Greenroot as an example.

1) NPC is aggroed. It does a /shout To Signal it's respective underling NPCs.
ie Treah Greenroot shouts, "Sylvan protectors, the glades call for your aid!"

2) The respective underling NPCs then path to the location where Treah Greenroot /shouted. The NPCs do not have aggro when they are called, but when they reach the location, they will either assist their boss or proximity aggro players. The NPCs appear to walk rather than run to this location. This is really only relevant for Tunare since other NPCs will be pathing around the area with their minions, so walk speed is sufficient especially with SoW from roaming druids.

As Treah Greenroot is engaged, he will continue to /shout for help to update the location. The time between calls appears to be based on whether or not Treah is moving to new locations. When I am kiting Treah Greenroot around, the time between calls appears to be 7 seconds.

[Wed Oct 30 19:15:23 2013] Treah Greenroot shouts 'Sylvan protectors, the glades call for your aid!'
[Wed Oct 30 19:15:30 2013] Treah Greenroot shouts 'Sylvan protectors, the glades call for your aid!'
[Wed Oct 30 19:15:37 2013] Treah Greenroot shouts 'Sylvan protectors, the glades call for your aid!'

When I was engaged to Treah Greenroot and stayed within melee range, Treah Greenroot did not /shout beyond the first time.

[Wed Oct 30 19:13:37 2013] Treah Greenroot begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:37 2013] Treah Greenroot shouts 'Sylvan protectors, the glades call for your aid!'
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:38 2013] Game Time: Wednesday, December 18, 3276 - 8 AM
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:38 2013] Earth Time: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 19:13:38
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:39 2013] Your shadows fade.
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:39 2013] You resist the Engulfing Roots spell!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:40 2013] Treah Greenroot hits YOU for 339 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:40 2013] Treah Greenroot hits YOU for 549 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:41 2013] Treah Greenroot begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:41 2013] You and your mount are thirsty.
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:41 2013] You and your mount are hungry.
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:41 2013] You are out of food and drink.
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:43 2013] You begin casting Harmshield.
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:43 2013] You no longer feel pain. You have been healed for 5 points.
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:45 2013] Treah Greenroot begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:51 2013] Treah Greenroot begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:51 2013] Yikes tells General:1, 'rangers very over played too'
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:52 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:53 2013] A protector of growth tries to kick YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:53 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:53 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:53 2013] A protector of growth tries to kick YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:54 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:54 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:54 2013] Treah Greenroot tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:54 2013] Treah Greenroot tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:54 2013] Treah Greenroot begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:55 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:56 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:57 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:57 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:57 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:57 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:57 2013] Treah Greenroot tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:57 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:57 2013] Treah Greenroot tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:59 2013] Treah Greenroot begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:59 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:59 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:59 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:59 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:59 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:59 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:59 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:59 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:59 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:13:59 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:00 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:00 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:01 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:01 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:01 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:01 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:01 2013] a sylvan protector begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:01 2013] Treah Greenroot tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:01 2013] Treah Greenroot tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:02 2013] A spirit flux wolf tries to bite YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:02 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:02 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:02 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:02 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:02 2013] Treah Greenroot begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:03 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:03 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:03 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:04 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:04 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:04 2013] A spirit flux wolf tries to bite YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:04 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:04 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:04 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:05 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:05 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:05 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:06 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:06 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:06 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:06 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:06 2013] A spirit flux wolf tries to bite YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:06 2013] A spirit flux wolf tries to bite YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:06 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:07 2013] a protector of growth begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:07 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:07 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but are INVULNERABLE!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:07 2013] a sylvan protector begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:08 2013] Treah Greenroot begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:08 2013] Your invulnerability fades.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:08 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but YOU dodge!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:08 2013] Your target is too far away, get closer!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:08 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but YOU riposte!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:08 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but YOU block!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:08 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:08 2013] A sylvan protector hits YOU for 175 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:08 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] A sylvan protector hits YOU for 40 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] Your target is too far away, get closer!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but YOU riposte!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] A spirit flux wolf tries to bite YOU, but YOU dodge!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] A spirit flux wolf tries to bite YOU, but YOU dodge!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] You resist the Careless Lightning spell!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] You resist the Immolate spell!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] Game Time: Wednesday, December 18, 3276 - 8 AM
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] Earth Time: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 19:14:09
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] A protector of growth hits YOU for 36 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:09 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:10 2013] A sylvan protector kicks YOU for 33 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:10 2013] a feral amalgam wraps its vines around your legs and attacks.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:10 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:10 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:10 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:10 2013] A sylvan protector hits YOU for 40 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:10 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:10 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:11 2013] You resist the Winged Death spell!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:11 2013] Treah Greenroot hits YOU for 339 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:11 2013] Treah Greenroot tries to hit YOU, but YOU dodge!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:11 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:11 2013] A protector of growth tries to kick YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:11 2013] A sylvan protector hits YOU for 40 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:11 2013] Your target is too far away, get closer!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:11 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but YOU riposte!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:11 2013] A spirit flux wolf tries to bite YOU, but YOU parry!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:11 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:11 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:11 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:11 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:12 2013] Treah Greenroot begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:12 2013] A sylvan protector tries to kick YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:12 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:12 2013] Game Time: Wednesday, December 18, 3276 - 8 AM
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:12 2013] Earth Time: Wednesday, October 30, 2013 19:14:12
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:12 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:12 2013] A feral amalgam tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:12 2013] A feral amalgam tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:12 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but YOU parry!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:12 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] A sylvan protector hits YOU for 40 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] A sylvan protector hits YOU for 40 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] A sylvan protector hits YOU for 173 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but YOU parry!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but YOU dodge!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but YOU dodge!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] Elderam tells General:1, 'YOu can give pets -- player gear? And they benefit?'
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] A spirit flux wolf tries to bite YOU, but YOU parry!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] You cannot see your target.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] You cannot see your target.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] A sylvan protector tries to kick YOU, but YOU riposte!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] A sylvan protector kicks YOU for 33 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] A sylvan protector tries to kick YOU, but YOU parry!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:13 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:14 2013] A sylvan protector kicks YOU for 33 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:14 2013] A spirit flux wolf tries to bash YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:14 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:14 2013] A protector of growth tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:14 2013] A feral amalgam tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:14 2013] A sylvan protector hits YOU for 40 points of damage.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:14 2013] A sylvan protector tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:16 2013] Tulisin tells General:1, 'Not bad estimates, but it is hard to actually determine those kinds of stats.'
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:17 2013] You resist the Dustdevil spell!
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:17 2013] Treah Greenroot begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:17 2013] a sylvan protector begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:20 2013] Tulisin tells General:1, 'Since forever, Elderam.'
[Wed Oct 30 19:14:26 2013] Treah Greenroot shouts 'Sylvan protectors, the glades call for your aid!'

3) The underling NPCs will path to the location where the /shout occurred. If unaggroed, the NPCs will stick around at the location for 50 seconds. (I originally thought they just pathed there and back, but I used /time with targetting rings to time how long individual protectors arrived/left). Even if the Boss NPC dies, the underlings will still path to the location of the shout.

If anyone wants to contest any of these individual points (or Nilbog needs more evidence), I have screenshots supporting individual points.

[nilbog]

1) NPC is aggroed. It does a /shout To Signal it's respective underling NPCs.
ie Treah Greenroot shouts, "Sylvan protectors, the glades call for your aid!"

2) The respective underling NPCs then path to the location where Treah Greenroot /shouted. The NPCs do not have aggro when they are called, but when they reach the location, they will either assist their boss or proximity aggro players. The NPCs appear to walk rather than run to this location.

As Treah Greenroot is engaged, he will continue to /shout for help to update the location. The time between calls appears to be based on whether or not Treah is moving to new locations. When I am kiting Treah Greenroot around, the time between calls appears to be 7 seconds.

When I was engaged to Treah Greenroot and stayed within melee range, Treah Greenroot did not /shout beyond the first time.

3) The underling NPCs will path to the location where the /shout occurred. If unaggroed, the NPCs will stick around at the location for 50 seconds. (I originally thought they just pathed there and back, but I used /time with targetting rings to time how long individual protectors arrived/left). Even if the Boss NPC dies, the underlings will still path to the location of the shout.


Thanks. Edited scripts to allow the npcs to stay for 50 seconds and distance checks to happen every 7 seconds.

[Nirgon]

Go Wizards!**

**Not Really


Yarly?

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20010627.html


Hsagra's Wrath and Porlos' Fury now have a 5 second recast delay.


If you're confused on dates

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EverQuest:_The_Shadows_of_Luclin

Couldn't tell you exactly when but I believe people were working on dragon bane before Luclin tbh. Dat shit is a little fuzzy, mid Velious to when I quit in Luclin.

[Alarti0001]

Yarly?

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20010627.html



If you're confused on dates

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EverQuest:_The_Shadows_of_Luclin

Couldn't tell you exactly when but I believe people were working on dragon bane before Luclin tbh. Dat shit is a little fuzzy, mid Velious to when I quit in Luclin.

We get 3 months of un-nerfed banes !

[Nirgon]

We get 3 months of un-nerfed banes !

They boutta find out how blue steel feels

[nilbog]

Last thing for PoG aside from random pathing is...

What implementation of Tunare? What loot, how long, etc.

More discussed is encouraged.

[Erati]

Tunare had no loot during Velious era

she should have no loot only bragging rites on P99

[Ele]

Tunare dropped no items during Velious

she should drop nothing here


Tunare had no loot during Velious era

she should have no loot only bragging rites on P99


http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1150867&postcount=23

[Ele]

Last thing for PoG aside from random pathing is...

What implementation of Tunare? What loot, how long, etc.

More discussed is encouraged.

Zero day incarnation:
1) Tunare, the 1 HP wonder...without loot
per Aeolwind

First incarnation (non-rooted), sometime after Velious release up to 7-8 months in to coincide with first kill during Live (July 2001) (http://web.archive.org/web/20010809194733/http://www.noows.com/showthread.php?threadid=2719):

up to 2x PoG BPs/Robes
up to 2x Blade of the Swarm
maybe something else from her eventual drop list
maybe spells


Second incarnation (non-rooted or rooted), 10 months after Velious release to coincide with upgraded loot table and second guild to kill her on live (October 2001) (http://web.archive.org/web/20020324032612/http://afterlifeguild.org/):

up to 2x PoG BPs/Robes
Spells

up to 3 of the following in any combination:

Blade of the Swarm
Golden Leaf Earring
Braid of Golden Hair
Essence of Nature
Massive Heartwood Thorn
Sap Encrusted Branch
Petrified Heartwood Flamberge
Nature's Melody*
Girdle of Living Thorns*


*I would also add in Nature's Melody (actually has effect Song of the Deep Sea's, until Luclin (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=7710)) and Girdle of Living Thorns to the second incarnation, even though I haven't found links evidencing their drops before Luclin based on their likeness to Siren Song and Dain Belt/NToV belts.

Third incarnation (rooted, final form), same loot as #2


Fist of Nature hasn't had any credible evidence brought forth that it existed before Luclin era, especially due to the nature of it being Hand-to-Hand, rather than 1HB like the Primal Fistwraps or the other monk only wraps in ToV, which were fixed to H2H after Luclin dropped.

Links/Sources for loot:
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1150867&postcount=23
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1158026&postcount=32

[Nirgon]

Yeah I remember the BP bps/robes dropping incarnation, couldn't tell you one damn thing about the other stuff on her during that time.

[pharmakos]

Last thing for PoG aside from random pathing is...

What implementation of Tunare? What loot, how long, etc.

More discussed is encouraged.

the earliest *complete* version

early versions of Tunare were obviously "eh, we'll finish this later, lets just release the rest of the expansion now."