More guilds are needed for mid level

[Lionfish Roundup]

Hi guys, This post is directed at some of the new eq mac players.

The population has gone up a bit and ive seen a lot of new people around, first off let me say welcome!

The server has a rivalry between the dark side ( Nihilum ) and the rebels ( Everyone else ) But one very important thing is missing.

You see, nihilum will recruit anyone above level 30, powerlevel them and shower them in gear so they join their guild. But most of us don't want anything to do with their schenanigans.

But what other guild options are there? None really, last time I spoke with Agatha he said azrael was only accepting 55+ players ( Which is most likely why they lose all day long on the server )

Its obvious no leadership presence is in the guild, as no direction is being given or any effort at all to bolster the ranks with fresh players.

What we need is a guild for players who are looking for a mid to light endgame experience. say levels 20-52ish, by then players would be ready to make their choice.

Honestly id like to see a new rebel guild be formed since I am level 52 and seeking a guild myself, but what we need is a leader here. Someone who can TELL PEOPLE WHAT TO DO

because these type of people on red99 need to be told what to do, The only reason nihilum because successful is because they have one of those type of people, and even tho people slam him and talk all the bullshit in the world, he owns this shit.

so if you ever led a guild in the past, and would consider starting one here, do it, shit id help.

hit me up in game, im a gnome magician named miraclegrow

[Kergan]

I saw Nizzar actively encouraging some low level guilds to get formed last night. I am hoping Azrael leadership takes the same stance.

And if they really want to help, police some of the low level zones like Mistmoore, Crushbone and Unrest with supertwinks from the douchebaggery that wants to chase new people off the server.

I've had the benefit of some high level friends helping me out, but many of these EQMac players will not. Some (if not the majority) of these players were high end raiding types that have a lot to add to Azrael or Nihilum on the PVE side, and eventually the PVP side when they get their feet wet.

While I agree with the general theme of the post, don't drag the rebels vs Nihilum crap down to the low level ranges. The more benefactors the low level population has the healthier it will be.

[heartbrand]

Nihilum has a pretty strict no griefing policy of newbs

[Stasis01]

Especially those new guilds of 52-53's - wait see sig, who are we kidding here Nizzar just an addicted kid.

[Agatha]

I for one have been grping with alot of lower levels in the 30-50s range between a few of my stealth characters and it seems that they are going to try to take the #3 spot, not join in with azrael or nihilum.

As for our policy with griefing lowbies, you guys are welcome to check the leaderboards and see who pvp's the 52s the most.

Anyone who wants to join azrael is free to start the application process at any time, we offer help in any way possible granted you have shown genuine interest and commitment to red99. you will however not recieve a tag until you are lvl 55.

[Kergan]

Nihi is not the Evil you make it out to be in fact it is the Resistance that is the problem. Azrael for MONTHS would Grief the shit out of anyone not guildied in the 44-52 range. Basically forcing those mid range players to level in secret, quit, or join the resistance through force. There is no alliance, Azrael is full of bad players, assholes, and griefers.


There is no problem. Neither side is the victim, or the aggressor. It's just the way shit is.

One thing I HAVE noticed though is that Azrael seems to kill anything that moves. I don't see it as a Nihilum vs. The Resistance thing at all, I see two separate guilds doing their own thing. Not saying that Nihilum doesn't do the same thing, but clearly they have what they need already to get things done on the PVE side.

I guess I'm just puzzled by the fact Azrael isn't trying to be the good guys. I feel like I'm in the demographic that Azrael should be trying to impress: PVP experienced, new to the server, leveling up at a fairly good rate and eventually looking for a guild. You're free to say you don't give a shit what I think, but if the majority of people in my demographic feel the way I do then you're just pushing people to the only other option available to them.

And the PRAS spam every kill definitely gets old...nobody minds a little trash talk but shit guys, act like you've been there. Save the talk for when you do something meaningful.

[Agatha]

There is no problem. Neither side is the victim, or the aggressor. It's just the way shit is.

One thing I HAVE noticed though is that Azrael seems to kill anything that moves. I don't see it as a Nihilum vs. The Resistance thing at all, I see two separate guilds doing their own thing. Not saying that Nihilum doesn't do the same thing, but clearly they have what they need already to get things done on the PVE side.

I guess I'm just puzzled by the fact Azrael isn't trying to be the good guys. I feel like I'm in the demographic that Azrael should be trying to impress: PVP experienced, new to the server, leveling up at a fairly good rate and eventually looking for a guild. You're free to say you don't give a shit what I think, but if the majority of people in my demographic feel the way I do then you're just pushing people to the only other option available to them.

And the PRAS spam every kill definitely gets old...nobody minds a little trash talk but shit guys, act like you've been there. Save the talk for when you do something meaningful.

azrael is azrael, anyone who doesn't find our particular game style will not fit in. We conform nor bend to anyone's standards besides our own. We will play the game how we like, contest the dragons we want to contest and have fun when we want to have fun. That said I don't see how you could peg us as the bad guys, specially when nihilum has been proven time and time again as the guild most banned/suspended for rule breaking/exploiting.

[Kergan]

I for one have been grping with alot of lower levels in the 30-50s range between a few of my stealth characters and it seems that they are going to try to take the #3 spot, not join in with azrael or nihilum.

As for our policy with griefing lowbies, you guys are welcome to check the leaderboards and see who pvp's the 52s the most.

Anyone who wants to join azrael is free to start the application process at any time, we offer help in any way possible granted you have shown genuine interest and commitment to red99. you will however not recieve a tag until you are lvl 55.

I'm not trying to flame here, but what honestly is the difference between the #2 and #3 spot on this server?

[Agatha]

I'm not trying to flame here, but what honestly is the difference between the #2 and #3 spot on this server?

3rd guild to show up? not much besides being labeled #3? i don't know its there words not mine.

[Kergan]

azrael is azrael, anyone who doesn't find our particular game style will not fit in. We conform nor bend to anyone's standards besides our own. We will play the game how we like, contest the dragons we want to contest and have fun when we want to have fun. That said I don't see how you could peg us as the bad guys, specially when nihilum has been proven time and time again as the guild most banned/suspended for rule breaking/exploiting.

I was not trying to paint you as bad guys, I'm sorry if it came off like that. I meant it more like you said, you guys are just doing your thing. I don't consider Nihilum or Azrael to be the good guys OR the bad guys.

I just hear a lot of talk about "the resistance" and I just find that not to be true at all. There is Nihilum, and there is Azrael. There probably are a few other small guilds that really don't effect the landscape in the 55+ world.

[heartbrand]

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[Agatha]

MrBiggs for example, epic rogue fungi tunic geared BIS period. Camped in Unrest. This week alone, he has trolled ganked, griefed, xp killed a lot of new players. I know 2 players (since I recently started a low lvl mage) give up go back to blue, or quit entirely. One from eq mac that said if its this bad now... fuck investing /45 days played on this box...



there are alot of things i would change if azrael was MY guild, this being one of them. But as it stands we don't dictate what you can and cant do. We have loose guidelines and if you want to follow them its up to you.

Azrael has a strong backbone and then alot of casuals. The grief we put on nihilum mostly stems from nihilum's history of griefing us when it comes to recruiting out of our guild. We understand that the people geared towards 12 hours of dragon killing are going to join nihilum, so just let them join. Don't make them stay in azrael an extra 2 weeks and make them "report" on our movements and make them "grief" us to show loyalty.

[Smedy]

Tell these players to wait for teams, there's no reason to roll on Red99 anymore, sirken more or less confirmed that teams are coming and closer than we think, i'm guessing before the end of the year

[Kergan]

Tell these players to wait for teams, there's no reason to roll on Red99 anymore, sirken more or less confirmed that teams are coming and closer than we think, i'm guessing before the end of the year

Did he post that somewhere?

And I wouldn't call it wasted effort. They'll get merged eventually and if they haven't PVP'd before it definitely is worth their time to get their feet wet.

[Stasis01]

#2 spot rolls Nihilum on the regular, brings their VP raids to a screeching halt, takes the ocassional Trak/Draco/CT?

#3 is non existent, and does nothing?

Too many little bitch gingers on this box for there to be serious competition - most would just leave their guilds and ride Nizzar's nuts since he's life dedicated.

WTB Teams.

[Colgate]

yeah nihilum definitely not the guild that griefs, i definitely have never seen them roll into solb with 8 people to kill a group of 5 level 42 angry wolves members

never seen it happen not once nope

[heartbrand]

In all fairness in that instance Nihilum showed up for the Azrael members and Nizzar told us don't attack the angry wolves members, but being the Top Jew [trademark pending] I decided FUCK THAT and went ham on them.

[Andis]

that shit aint pending hb

shits confirmed.

[Kergan]

there are alot of things i would change if azrael was MY guild, this being one of them. But as it stands we don't dictate what you can and cant do. We have loose guidelines and if you want to follow them its up to you.

Azrael has a strong backbone and then alot of casuals. The grief we put on nihilum mostly stems from nihilum's history of griefing us when it comes to recruiting out of our guild. We understand that the people geared towards 12 hours of dragon killing are going to join nihilum, so just let them join. Don't make them stay in azrael an extra 2 weeks and make them "report" on our movements and make them "grief" us to show loyalty.

No reason needed to go after Nihilum, honestly. People will always be gunning for you or what you control when you're on top.

But why go after a group of people leveling up in CoM that hasn't done anything to wrong you? Like I said, it just pushes people towards your enemy and is ultimately self defeating.

It's possible that the server can support a second PVE focused guild, especially come Velious with how factions work. I don't think Azrael would survive as anything more than a few groups of dudes pking if both of those guilds KOS them. EQ is a gear dependent game, we all know that. The disparity between geared and ungeared players will only grow with Velious. And if Azrael wants to run PVE content then why push away all potential recruits now by killing them when they're trying to level up?

I guess if that isn't part of your agenda then who cares right?

[Colgate]

i was the only person there

you guys sent out 8 people just for me

8)

[heartbrand]

No reason needed to go after Nihilum, honestly. People will always be gunning for you or what you control when you're on top.

But why go after a group of people leveling up in CoM that hasn't done anything to wrong you? Like I said, it just pushes people towards your enemy and is ultimately self defeating.

It's possible that the server can support a second PVE focused guild, especially come Velious with how factions work. I don't think Azrael would survive as anything more than a few groups of dudes pking if both of those guilds KOS them. EQ is a gear dependent game, we all know that. The disparity between geared and ungeared players will only grow with Velious. And if Azrael wants to run PVE content then why push away all potential recruits now by killing them when they're trying to level up?

I guess if that isn't part of your agenda then who cares right?

Azrael has no one competent to help lead them to slay pixelated dragons in Velious, which is why I've always been a huge proponent of blue transfers / copies to bring over fresh blood who understand that EQ at it's best is when you're fighting over pixlels, not meaningless cock measuring fights of bard vs melee and shit in outdoor zones.

[heartbrand]

i was the only person there

you guys sent out 8 people just for me

8)

Ya may have, don't remember tbh, I think I was already camped in sol b at the time, who knows, rammus in league and rammus in eq that's how i play

[BrobbVZ]

Kergan, is spot on. GG Azrael. Leadership that cannot control its guildies will always fail. You have Guido, American, Dacuk, Twerk and several others that really really hate mass pvp, but enjoy griefing. Nihilum wouldn't allow that, hence why those kids will never be in Nilly.

[Stasis01]

Brobb's excuses know no ends.

Figures he can justify joining Nihi by saying that Azrael are scum - when in fact, no life neck bearders and open recruitment policy has kept this server stagnant.

The resistance leaders have nothing to do with it - there's only one guy willing to do it.

Enough with the blah blah blah Brobb, we know why you gave up, and it has to do with bitch in your blood.

[Smedy]

Kergan, is spot on. GG Azrael. Leadership that cannot control its guildies will always fail. You have Guido, American, Dacuk, Twerk and several others that really really hate mass pvp, but enjoy griefing. Nihilum wouldn't allow that, hence why those kids will never be in Nilly.

Meanwhile you can check the pvp stats where Tune, one of the top ranking officers roll around on his fully decked out bard killing random newbs all day, get elderan to remove these numbers quick.

[BrobbVZ]

Stasis lol, I am the man that tried to make a 3rd side for the server. I didn't have enough time anymore to do that, and when I quit, Force quit. GG.

[Stasis01]

Yes, you guys accomplished nothing, and then quit - I was there.

[Stasis01]

How many msg's from Brobb saying they realize that they can't accomplish anything without merging with Lite and zerging, because of Nihilum even though he didn't want to.

He was willing to merge, and he was willing to RMT/backdoor into Nihi - this guy will do anything for his chance at a pixel.

[Sektor]

Stasis on the deep end...

[Colgate]

best part is when brobb ragequit azrael because people told him to stop logging on other peoples' characters and suiciding them into full groups of nihilum

[Stasis01]

Didn't read the bad iucky's post - raped by my alt Gaanon all day in COM.

Can't read Brobb's lame excuses without making fun of him - sorry Sektor, if he can't even grow a pair and say I did it because I want it easy, and was tired of being bad and losing I could at least call him a bitch and move on.

[heartbrand]

I will slay anyone regardless of level / gross household income / religion / gender / health

[Retti_]

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[rusty81]

Nihilum has a pretty strict no griefing policy of newbs

I can tell you first hand that members from both Nil and Az have both helped me tremendously.

They are all extremely nice players. They just seem to hate each other. But then again... if they got along this wouldn't be a pvp server anymore would it?

They are sort of like the Bloods and Crips and have no idea why they even hate each other.

O well back to OP he is correct there on the idea of more guild.

[Smedy]

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Oh man, the top jew is growing on me now, fuck

[Something'Witty]

Neither side is the victim, or the aggressor. It's just the way shit is.

I agree, neither side is good / bad. They both have some cool players and some real D-bags. Both guilds have some members that box, exploit, and run third party software. Both guilds have trained the other. I could go on, but as I see it, just two guilds competing for the same resources. Shits classic!


One thing I HAVE noticed though is that Azrael seems to kill anything that moves.

The average Azreal player does come across as a little more PvP centric than the avg Nilly, but there are plenty of Nilly members that won't hesitate to smash anyone in range.

[Colgate]

gotta say hb you really outdid yourself with that sig

10/10 would laugh again

[heartbrand]

Listen, I might not be the guy you go to for your main assist in pvp or to help plan the tactical battles, but if you're looking for the top red to blue currency conversion rates or have black market pixels that you need laundered, I'm your guy

[Something'Witty]

if you're looking for the top red to blue currency conversion rates or have black market pixels that you need laundered, I'm you're guy.

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[runlvlzero]

I'm a level 40 rogue LFG but I think i'mma take another day off EQ b4 full re-immersion.

[Fame]

this is the song that never endsss....

[Lionfish Roundup]

I ll tell you what to do.. Shut the Fuck up Tomato King....

For months you trolled the forums telling new players to not even bother playing on this server...

Nihi is not the Evil you make it out to be in fact it is the Resistance that is the problem. Azrael for MONTHS would Grief the shit out of anyone not guildied in the 44-52 range. Basically forcing those mid range players to level in secret, quit, or join the resistance through force. There is no alliance, Azrael is full of bad players, assholes, and griefers.

The mid lvl guild you speak of was FoH. At there prime 2 months ago they once had 25 memebers online at one time. Foh started to do the Hole as an every day guild thing. Then Azrael showed up and griefed the fuck out of them, corpse camped them and basically forced all there 52+ members to guild quit and join their ranks.

I know of 3 players who joined Azrael to get shit on by the guild. I even saw Basiah bitch at guildies in City of Mist saying to level with other members. Azrael has their own little clique's and your not getting in. I saw 3-4 players grniding great xp only to let the other players have scraps. No strength in that guild and they will be going no where. They had a good 2 week run when Hersey disbanded, some old Force logged back in and soaking up 3-5 of Foh's 50+ ranks. But then people saw through Agatha's bullshit and gave up.

Any smart player will see over time Nihi is the greater of the 2 guilds, most of Azrael would join Nihi in an instant if a guild invite was thrown there way but they are hated amongst the top tier players with good reason. So they are stuck at a dead end job/guild. Miserable of there /played and treat other guildies with hope like complete shit.

Azreal is so hard up that anytime a member gets a killing blow on a Nihi all of /ooc lights up with spam PRAS. But its only their guild spamming ooc no one else. Ive only been on this server for 3 months and I believed all this bullshit then through time I saw Nihi is not the Evil you speak of but your own resistance.

Tomato King you are a shitty mage, you are not getting in Nihi and you have no option but to trick new players to believe your filth.

Ps ive seen Lite doing some power lvling of new players 1-40 and when they are left on there own accord they are scum.

Gaffin
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check the leader boards the GREAT pvpers they claim to be both with sub par 0.24, 0.14 kd's....

no thanks

/thread

my 2 cp

u mad?



Goodlord what a mad post

Lets address these in order shall we?

Nihi is not the Evil you make it out to be in fact it is the Resistance that is the problem.

( This is funny )

Azrael is full of bad players, assholes, and griefers.

Theres a lot yes, but a lot are cool. ( just like nihilum )

The mid lvl guild you speak of was FoH. At there prime 2 months ago they once had 25 memebers online at one time

Ive been in FOH on several chars, if there was 1 person to lead red99 to glory would be chew, but people join foh then leave as soon as they get higher level. Sucks but its the truth

I know of 3 players who joined Azrael to get shit on by the guild. I even saw Basiah bitch at guildies in City of Mist saying to level with other members

exp is slow, if people make a tigher knit small group that nets more exp they are going to do it, But having friends in zone to defend against pvp is the purpose of a guild. This wont change.

Any smart player will see over time Nihi is the greater of the 2 guilds

Dunno, when I think smart player I don't think red99 but what nihilum stands for will attract only weak / stupid players if you ask me, but what do I know?


Azreal is so hard up that anytime a member gets a killing blow on a Nihi all of /ooc lights up with spam PRAS

A rebel killing a nihilum is a big deal, if you cant see it then you are probably a nihilum, ill be PRASing too !

Tomato King you are a shitty mage

Omg im going to cry, some internet mad faggot who completely sucks in game and in life thinks I suck at elfonline. Im afk 90% of the time and I don't give a shit

Ps ive seen Lite doing some power lvling of new players 1-40 and when they are left on there own accord they are scum.

lol

check the leader boards the GREAT pvpers they claim to be both with sub par 0.24, 0.14 kd's....

haven't opened the leaderboard once and I don't plan on it, anyone who is here for leaderboard type pvp is a complete idiot, go play daoc

u mad?

no but you are : )

[iiNGloriouS]

Lololol well I think I found out who Ephedrine is. Remain mad as fuck kid.

I tried creating an "intro" guild for r99, only got like 3 people interested in it though. I figured people would be more for it with the closing of EQMac/Classic figured if we had some sort of intro guild to help people, they may be more inclined to join R99. Apparently not.

[Lionfish Roundup]

Kergan, is spot on. GG Azrael. Leadership that cannot control its guildies will always fail. You have Guido, American, Dacuk, Twerk and several others that really really hate mass pvp, but enjoy griefing. Nihilum wouldn't allow that, hence why those kids will never be in Nilly.

Nihilum has stated and shown time and time again, that anyone, ANYONE can join , regardless of how bad your rep is, what you have done, who you trained. What hacks you used, exploits you name it.

Anyone can join, even if you require heavy machinery or a snorkel to breathe, all are welcome if you do what you are told and kill mobs when raid day comes

WTB Variance, the cure to red99's plague

[Lionfish Roundup]

I am relatively new to this box. But my background in "video game pixels" extends over a decade. I started here close to 90 days ago so ive been past the "probationary" period. My friends list was exceeding 66 players. With an average of 28 online at any given time.

Once my regular crew hit 45-52.... things just got.. tough. We were constantly griefed in solb/com. I had a hardcore static group of friends healers/tanks/dps, not just druids/wizards. But a real pve pixel group. Almost all of them quit at 52-54. Griefed off the box and went back to where they belong.

I quit my main, and started the lowbie grind again. As I level I see pretty much the fate that I did not see the first time around. Another new stream of blood, fresh new players some re rolls, some twinks, but the same exact grind. All these players will hit City of Mist, Solb and that breaking point of 52 will crush a lot of souls.

I may this time just stop in a good lvl range, and pvp not grief but pvp and just chill... game is a huge changer once you are in range to those 55-57-60's. Ive never seen so many 55+ druid gankers in my life. Then again its not hard, neither is everquest its all just a matter of how long you can sit on your ass...

were all gonna make it bro's

I think teams would put everyone on the same playing field with a fresh start and an idea of how it could go all wrong. If history repeats itself on teams then so be it... its bound to happen it does repeat itself. Then we can all walk away and get this gross addiction over with. Except on teams you know what team your on.. here its more of a constant paranoia of whos gonna guild hop, whos gonna pk you, who is your ally today is your enemy tomorrow.

not all of us are gonna make it

ive already seen quit a few players hit 20-24 and just disappear...

I am level 52, and solb / com is exactly where you DONT go you stupid fuck, that's where you will get farmed.

dur?

[Eslade]

I am level 52, and solb / com is exactly where you DONT go you stupid fuck, that's where you will get farmed.

dur?

I kinda agree. It sucks, but if they say that you'll probably get ganked in, you don't go to that zone. Same reason you don't go into the bad part of town.

[Giovanni]

Server is much more fun when you just avoid the high end altogether. Just stop leveling wherever you feel comfortable 30, 45, or w/e and spend all day pvping.

[Vile]

Server is much more fun when you just avoid the high end altogether. Just stop leveling wherever you feel comfortable 30, 45, or w/e and spend all day pvping.

shh

[HippoNipple]

noobs hunting in CoM, SolB, Unrest, etc.???

Shit you better find a cozy corner and solo 1 light blue at a time bitches.

[Lionfish Roundup]

shh

feels good man!

thx again

[runlvlzero]

U should have gone to guk. For your 40-50's.

[Lionfish Roundup]

bump, wtb another guild

[Fame]

Lololol well I think I found out who Ephedrine is. Remain mad as fuck kid.


Multiple sources confirming this

[iiNGloriouS]

Multiple sources confirming this

Oh he's such a mad little man. I imagine he has little man syndrome, so much anger can only be contained in a tiny package that thirst for naked pixels to be slain.

[Lionfish Roundup]

bump

53 mage looking for rebel guild ( that organizes stuff )

[runlvlzero]

Luke Skywalker just created the "Rebellion"