Martial Law

[Sirken]

my guides do not have the ability to suspend on red at the current moment, so i have asked them to just go ahead and use #ban for any and all instances where #suspend would have been used.

Perma bans will be going out for all offenses until people learn to act right. this server will be cleansed of it's filth, or i will die trying.

you've been warned.

have fun and GL


edit - also, as far as guilds using coordination to train, or repeatedly training on dumb alts, yes i'm aware of it. and if it becomes an issue i can always hold guild leadership accountable for the actions of their members. it surely wouldnt be the first time. If you can't control your people, you better boot them, because you can share in their punishment if you are unable to control your members.

[Sirken]

freez was given a warning, but now u are banned

[Smedy]

wth is going on here, freez banned? :(

shits blowing up, not good, indeed not good

[Smedy]

wait are these in game bans or just forumquest bans?

[Sirken]

wait are these in game bans or just forumquest bans?

the thread is referring to in game.

dumb ass saltyx got a forum ban for being a dumb ass

[Pudge]

if freedom fighter freez getting banned...

i hope all those trainin nillies got what they deserve. they engaged knowing they were going to lose, training was part of the plan

[Smedy]

so nihilum just won, trained us got 2 week suspension on a character they don't use, and we lost a 60 cleric and 60 enchanter for them talking some shit

dayum son, martial law ain't working in our favor right now

[Pudge]

but Sirken i like this layin down the law, red99 has been wild west lately

[princepolk]

instead of banning ppl give me their accts

[Aenor]

Also, Sirken said trolling is banable. There goes 90% of the server.

[Sirken]

Also, Sirken said trolling is banable. There goes 90% of the server.

i didnt say that. troll within the rules and you'll be fine. no racial or homo slurs

[swagger]

i didnt say that. troll within the rules and you'll be fine. no racial or homo slurs

freez was banned for saying in ooc that you banned sektorz mom for training.

This is counter to what you just said

[Sirken]

freez is not banned. stop trolling

[compulsion]

If we are going to publicly discuss bans or suspensions on some players, which I believe *used* to be against policy, make all of it public. Post a sticky, name date crime and punishment. No rumors, no "he's kinda brown, send him to Guantanamo" dictator's decree. Keep it above board. The population already sucks enough without staff coming off like a riot cop tazing a 90 year old.

[freez]

lol

im fine pals

[Aenor]

PS Thread delivers.

[swagger]

freez is not banned. stop trolling

So you ban freez for OOCing some off-hand troll with no racism or cuss words, which destroyed a group in sebilis (because he was the chanter), and you come on here to say "nah bro he isn't banned, why you bein such a troll?"

Thanks for UNBANNING freez after you destroyed that group in sebilis. Really appreciate that...

Why even play here anymore if Sirken can just pop in, make a motd on how he is going to ban everyone, and then bans 2 people right off the bat for some random offhand comments in ooc with no cusses or racism, and then unbans them later after they pras him for mercy?



Am I even allowed to make a post like this? You gonna ban/delete me for this post?

[Sirken]

he made real life insults, end of story.

and yes, if you break forum rules yes i will ban and delete your posts too.

[Smedy]

i need to control my behaviour, the though of going down to zero posts haunts my every dream, i'm reaching that 3000 posts goal soon pals, it will be glorious

[swagger]

So i cant make a post like that?

"Your mom" jokes are ban worthy now?

"Sirken banned your mom for training"?

Am i going to be banned now for this post?

[Humerox]

sirken just got real

[Terpuntine]

Burn red to the ground!

[Sirken]

So i cant make a post like that?
"Your mom" jokes are ban worthy now?
"Sirken banned your mom for training"?
Am i going to be banned now for this post?

log in to the game. wait for me to broadcast about not to do something. wait 30 more seconds, then do exactly what i said not to do. watch what happens :)

[Pudge]

swagg calm down fuck

[SamwiseRed]

ban nilly imo, they are RL threatening their own health.

[swagger]

Sirken, what you say is not what you do and its making people confused as hell.

Someone said in ooc that training was legal in vp and you banned them. Someone said you banned someones mom for training so you banned them.

You are literally banning people for saying things in ooc that dont have cus words or racial slurs.


Your "rules" are a contradiction. This is a problem and id appreciate it if you dont ban me for pointing out these flaws in reasoning

[SamwiseRed]

Sirken, what you say is not what you do and its making people confused as hell.

Someone said in ooc that training was legal in vp and you banned them. Someone said you banned someones mom for training so you banned them.

You are literally banning people for saying things in ooc that dont have cus words or racial slurs.


Your "rules" are a contradiction

holy shit are you retarded? just dont troll sirkens comments or act like a jackass and youll be fine. its not that hard to not get banned.

[freez]

All good pals. I pushed my luck and got bitch slapped for 15 minutes. And sry sirk didnt think youd consider that a threat or i wouldnt of said it.

trollz will b trollz

[freez]

o and to clear things up i said

"i banned sektors mom from my house"


i meant it as in she cant come over no mo'

[swagger]

Dude, samwise.

It is absolutely sad that you think that way.

If i call a cop a pig, he shouldnt put me in jail.

Thinking that is acceptable is a travesty

[swagger]

o and to clear things up i said

"i banned sektors mom from my house"


i meant it as in she cant come over no mo'

Def deserves a ban and your xp group ruined

[Greegon]

Dude, samwise.

It is absolutely sad that you think that way.

If i call a cop a pig, he shouldnt put me in jail.

Thinking that is acceptable is a travesty

a tasering and one swift kick would be alright in my book

[swagger]

If i call obama a n****r i shouldnt be deported

[SamwiseRed]

uh this is a free emulated classic everquest server. think about that for a minute before comparing it to a RL situation.

[swagger]

Samwise...

I like you, but you will never be in a leadership position in your life

[swagger]

Trolling will definitely earn you a Permaban.

Confirmed. Trolling bannable offense now.

Staff too mad.

When you are a mod/admin and dont ban someone for calling you a worthless piece of shit, is when you gain respect from the person calling you a worthless piece of shit.

Once you gain that respect, you are no longer labeled as a worthless piece of shit, thus ending the troll

[SamwiseRed]

Samwise...

I like you, but you will never be in a leadership position in your life

lul how little you know me. also you realize everyone on these boards is trollin. welcome to the internet :)

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[Bazia]

thank god sirken dropping the hammer

plz watch next couple CTs/Traks

[SamwiseRed]

basiah i think its time to change avatar to cleric.

[lite]

thank god sirken dropping the hammer

plz watch next couple CTs/Traks

[Kraftwerk]

I may have to hook up my external 10TB drive and log in and start 24/7 FRAPSing in 1080p.

[SamwiseRed]

thats alot of pron

[Kraftwerk]

U have no idea

[Smedy]

lets share porn collections my needs update

[heartbrand]

Does this mean boxers will be banned now

[big mouth chew]

box integrity on the climb

[Elderan]

Start banning known boxers..

Stop ignoring the petitions on them.

[Smedy]

to my knowledge elderan is boxing himself. He has a lvl 1 logging shit in ooc from another computer somewhere and that shit doesn't stop when elderan is online which can only mean he is boxing that lvl 1 guy...

ban that guy first, u feelers me?

[Smedy]

also lites extended mexican family does do work for us in azrael, maybe you should make supreme play again, he should have some family available to bring toons for vp

[Sektor]

Start banning known boxers..

Stop ignoring the petitions on them.

[heartbrand]

Leave it to smedy to try to shutdown the pvp leaderboard

[Colgate]

leaderboard is dog shit anyway

[Thrilla]

You only need to read the OOC on p99pvp.com for a couple pages to realize what this server is all about, it's a wonder how people even play here with the amount of toxic hate that seethes from both sides of the fence, looking at it from outsider pov as do Sirken's and the GM's I'm shocked that they even stick around to police it.

[rusty81]

You only need to read the OOC on p99pvp.com for a couple pages to realize what this server is all about, it's a wonder how people even play here with the amount of toxic hate that seethes from both sides of the fence, looking at it from outsider pov as do Sirken's and the GM's I'm shocked that they even stick around to police it.

To be honest, Thrilla if you read the OOC you will notice its the same people over and over that give the server a bad name. Majority of the players on red are good people.

[lite]

If Nihilum would stop giving the GM's so much to look after ...aka the 5th train in a month, Exploiting Highsun and TONS of other things, account stripping (beowulf , mellowyellow) just off the top of my head, boxing among themselves, ect.


Perhaps they'd have time to get around to the things that you guys request. Until you guys are ready to get your act together, enjoy the fact that you are allowed to play.

[Smedy]

If Nihilum would stop giving the GM's so much to look after ...aka the 5th train in a month, Exploiting Highsun and TONS of other things, account stripping (beowulf , mellowyellow) just off the top of my head, boxing among themselves, ect.


Perhaps they'd have time to get around to the things that you guys request. Until you guys are ready to get your act together, enjoy the fact that you are allowed to play.

login

give

fungus

[Elderan]

If Nihilum would stop giving the GM's so much to look after ...aka the 5th train in a month, Exploiting Highsun and TONS of other things, account stripping (beowulf , mellowyellow) just off the top of my head, boxing among themselves, ect.


Perhaps they'd have time to get around to the things that you guys request. Until you guys are ready to get your act together, enjoy the fact that you are allowed to play.

If you would just quit two boxing then that would eliminate at least 20 petitions a day.

[heartbrand]

The irony of lite who boxes constantly, has guilded salty / tunak / agatha / basiah / sickpuppy / sealer etc., all RMTers / hackers etc., complaining about rules. I wouldn't mind you calling people out if you didn't try to white knight here. It's the same reason supreme and a couple of others irk me at times. There's bad apples in all the guilds cut the white knight shit of good guys vs bad guys.

[Jezibell]

Azrael ... Years

jeg vet ikke if srs?

[big mouth chew]

im the best apple
granny smith perhaps

[big mouth chew]

got my name picked out for teams99 haha

[big mouth chew]

Granny Smith < Martial Lawls >

[runlvlzero]

Don't be a raging lunatics. Peoples. It's not that hard. IMO. Keep frapsing. 1 GM cannot have the PoV of 40+ people at the same time.

[heartbrand]

^ guy spams forums about being a transvestite / wild rmt accusations and MQ accusations with zero basis, then tells other people not to be a raging lunatic. Mmmmk

[runlvlzero]

^ guy spams forums about being a transvestite / wild rmt accusations and MQ accusations with zero basis, then tells other people not to be a raging lunatic. Mmmmk

Guy thinks he's a white knight or some kind of lone ranger, joins the enemy and constantly attacks everyone who disagrees with him with walls of txt (well the text walls have gotten minimal lately).

Just because someone disagrees with you, thinks you are scummy doesn't mean they are raging lunatics. Lets not forget your promise to grief teams99 etc etc..

Your not a superhero. Your a villain. If you don't agree. Fine whatever. But lets not call people raging lunatics because they don't want to follow you or think your the next best thing to ever happen to this server. You sir have some kind of delusion about who you really are which is painfully obvious to everyone on these boards. Nihilumites don't want to get up in your grill because they have to sit and listen to you in ventrillio and they are far to week to kick an MT from their zerg.

Now if they grew a pair and told you to GTFO you would finally have no one to reinforce your sad delusions.

[Vile]

GO SIRKEN GO

[John2020]

Oh wow thats so great!

[Retti_]

Fuji apples own ur granny smith ass

Also sirken some guy made a serious insult and url on my visitor page about u i dont know how 2 remove. plz help I think its Salty

[Lionfish Roundup]

got my name picked out for teams99 haha

teams99 isn't going to happen. But if it did you would be the leader of it big chew , as for the rest of you posting between 5-10am yall need jobs. Its Monday do something productive

[big mouth chew]

im posting while on the clock and it feels greeeeaaaat!

[Stinkum]

they said his brain was infected by pixels

[Snufz]

Gonna laugh when all the ppl who support this are the same ones gonna be crying when their pals eat a ban.

[Retti_]

When I think of who resorts to training when defeated, Stasis the 1st name that comes to mind.

Not that theres n e thing wrong w that but funny

[Chronoburn]

Pretty sure the people that don't get banned from Nih/Azr in the up coming weeks will have to form a new guild in order to slay the dragons.

[Slytherin]

You only need to read the OOC on p99pvp.com for a couple pages to realize what this server is all about, it's a wonder how people even play here with the amount of toxic hate that seethes from both sides of the fence, looking at it from outsider pov as do Sirken's and the GM's I'm shocked that they even stick around to police it.

[runlvlzero]

Toxic hate on both sides. Mostly Nihilums though. Just a lot of raging neckbeards in Azrael with some more vocal players (Syft). But the true hatred and desire to wreck the game for everyone comes from deep within Nihilum. Who put for the effort to truly be genuine jerks.

[Silikten]

Syft is definitely not Azrael.

As far as gorilla tactics go. It's usually nihilum who resorts to this because they will never beat us straight up in PvP. Except that one time, when we charged them 21v35. :)

[rusty81]

Ok, I don't want to be pinned for "Trolling" just a suggestion here.

If it is this bad, why not make a sticky of ALL RULES of in game behavior and actions and list what is bannable and what is acceptable.

wouldn't this clear up most if not all confusion... I would also suggest not allowing people access to reply to it.

In my personal opinion, GM's should never take anything personally. Regardless how personal it may sound. You guys are like referee's no matter what the fans think you have to move past it and make the call that you think is right for the game. allowing people to even reply to this post seems to be raising tempers.

The people who have committed said bannable offenses know who they are, and my viewpoint is the common community does not need to know your reasoning for banning said person. (of course being it was a legitimate reason for banning)

Now I also understand this is not a pay to play game and GM's are not paid employees, but what you have here is awesome and it should be treated as if it is a game generating lots of money just like a business. IMO this will not only ease tension within the community but will also make the game more enjoyable for the "victims" of the offenses.

Again this is just my 2 cents. to sum up GM's should not even be allowed to be spoken to in such manner I have seen on this post, Nor should they have social interaction with other players that can create a conflict of interest. While I believe they should be able to enjoy the game just as everyone else, maybe a chain of command where a ban has to go up to a higher authority to make the final call on a ban. :confused:

[darwoth0]

Gonna laugh when all the ppl who support this are the same ones gonna be crying when their pals eat a ban.

Yeah this is a classic case of staff emotional blowup. Everyone either has to calmly agree with the lead GM (like you see in this thread so far) or face the possibility of being banned by someone whose lost the ability to be a leader and has simply thrown down an emotional gauntlet to try and gain respect. The thread wreaks of immaturity, especially considering he locks/deletes other threads that had discussion. It's basically akin to the kid in the neighborhood who would bring his football over to play with the rest of the kids, get mad, and run home with the ball.

How can a player base possibly have a legitimate discussion when the head staff member throws tantrums on the forums when the structure of his server policy is picked apart for 2 pages in one thread and he gets super emotional? Reminds me of the LAST GM.

Why don't you just post a list of rules that players are to follow and the consequences of breaking them, and follow through - or don't have rules at all, it worked with SZ. Instead you play this game of making rules up on the spot or having rules that apply "occassionally" or "most of the time" with differing penalties and no transparency, and then you cry foul when you get called on it. The staff here has had 2 years to make policy and stick to it, instead you've spent 2 years pointing the finger at the users and deleting posts/threads and banning posters on the forums to cover your mistakes.

Try having meaningful discussion instead of throwing a cryfit like this thread.

[RoguePhantom]

Syft is definitely not Azrael.

As far as gorilla tactics go. It's usually nihilum who resorts to this because they will never beat us straight up in PvP. Except that one time, when we charged them 21v35. :)

Its Guerrilla btw.

[big mouth chew]

Ok, I don't want to be pinned for "Trolling" just a suggestion here.

If it is this bad, why not make a sticky of ALL RULES of in game behavior and actions and list what is bannable and what is acceptable.

he's got a point
granted its a point that many have made over the past couple years but its still a point

[HippoNipple]

Yeah this is a classic case of staff emotional blowup. Everyone either has to calmly agree with the lead GM (like you see in this thread so far) or face the possibility of being banned by someone whose lost the ability to be a leader and has simply thrown down an emotional gauntlet to try and gain respect. The thread wreaks of immaturity, especially considering he locks/deletes other threads that had discussion. It's basically akin to the kid in the neighborhood who would bring his football over to play with the rest of the kids, get mad, and run home with the ball.

How can a player base possibly have a legitimate discussion when the head staff member throws tantrums on the forums when the structure of his server policy is picked apart for 2 pages in one thread and he gets super emotional? Reminds me of the LAST GM.

Why don't you just post a list of rules that players are to follow and the consequences of breaking them, and follow through - or don't have rules at all, it worked with SZ. Instead you play this game of making rules up on the spot or having rules that apply "occassionally" or "most of the time" with differing penalties and no transparency, and then you cry foul when you get called on it. The staff here has had 2 years to make policy and stick to it, instead you've spent 2 years pointing the finger at the users and deleting posts/threads and banning posters on the forums to cover your mistakes.

Try having meaningful discussion instead of throwing a cryfit like this thread.

I think its pretty straight forward. It is also what people have been asking for on these forums. The only criticism will come if these harsh punishments aren't distributed fairly among both sides. How many threads have you seen lately talking about how unfair it is that people train, box, etc. with minimum or no punishments.

Sirken is basically saying that instead of you guys all petitioning him every 5 minutes they are going to start banning people. Obviously the ones that have been caught breaking the rules lately don't mind the punishment enough to stop doing it, so the punishment is becoming more severe to try to cut down on the work load for Sirken and other staff.

I can't imagine all the whining petitions the GMs have to go through on a daily basis from the same 20 people.

The one suggestion that does make sense is making a list of things that you can be banned for. If you want a short general list until this gets done, since it may never get done, let me help you out a bit.

1) Don't train
2) Don't 2+ box
3) Don't refer to real life when trolling/talking shit in game
4) Don't RMT
5) Don't exploit

Many things fall into the exploiting category including crap like dispelling people outside of your pvp range. I for one think exploiting should be allowed The more it is used the more motivation the GMs have to actually fix it. If you don't want people moving mobs or dispelling people out of their range then hard code it and fix it. Otherwise there will always be people getting away with it, which in turn brings the inevitable drama of favoritism once people get banned.

[mtb tripper]

where is nizzar

[Lionfish Roundup]

so wait, no one has been banned right?

Just making sure.

[Nudalus]

Bunch of stuff...

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And: <3

[Chronoburn]

or don't have rules at all, it worked with SZ

SZ was great success. We didn't need/have GMs either, unless you counted Xzott who logged in once a week just to shoot the shit.

SZ teams or bust.

[HippoNipple]

SZ was great success. We didn't need/have GMs either, unless you counted Xzott who logged in once a week just to shoot the shit.

SZ teams or bust.

No rules on SZ meant you could train people. No rules on this emulator means you can RMT, 6box an entire groups, and use MQ2.

[Chronoburn]

No rules on SZ meant you could train people. No rules on this emulator means you can RMT, 6box an entire groups, and use MQ2.

Actually, this is exactly how SZ was ...

RMT .... ever hear of sam da man death walker? You think he farmed his gear? Every hig end person on SZ was stupid not to sell shit.

6 Box .. Tides of Wrath was actually like 10 people 5 boxing VT raids.

MQ2 .. see speedd


Either way, this shit isn't enforced.

[Danien]

Some time into Sullon training almost killed the server. As much as I myself enjoyed the challenge of playing as an underdog with trains also factoring in I was not too blind to recognize how peoples spirits were crushed when 5-10 consecutive raids were demolished by trains.

Hell, prior to starting VT the existence of a single proper raiding guild on any non evil-team was threatened (Because almost every meaningful raid at that point was thwarted by trains). The only reason we were able to do VT was because we made a deal with Hate not to train them in PoP and in return we would be allowed to raid VT uncontested.

[mtb tripper]

SZ or PZ

[Langrisserx]

i fuck PZ

[Rec]

if training is too scary there is always the great carebear server alternative

[Chronoburn]

Some time into Sullon training almost killed the server. As much as I myself enjoyed the challenge of playing as an underdog with trains also factoring in I was not too blind to recognize how peoples spirits were crushed when 5-10 consecutive raids were demolished by trains.

Hell, prior to starting VT the existence of a single proper raiding guild on any non evil-team was threatened (Because almost every meaningful raid at that point was thwarted by trains). The only reason we were able to do VT was because we made a deal with Hate not to train them in PoP and in return we would be allowed to raid VT uncontested.

That pact lasted maybe 3 weeks ... I know this because I earned more DKP training hate than actually raiding VT during this time.

By the sounds of it, this server essentially has no rules right now.

[HippoNipple]

if training is too scary there is always the great carebear server alternative

You can train there too.

[Danien]

That pact lasted maybe 3 weeks ... I know this because I earned more DKP training hate than actually raiding VT during this time.

By the sounds of it, this server essentially has no rules right now.

That pact lasted for months, I know because I was there boxing almost every week.

[thugcruncher]

i didnt say that. troll within the rules and you'll be fine. no racial or homo slurs

isn't saying homo technically a slur?

welp, /wave red

[Chronoburn]

That pact lasted for months, I know because I was there boxing almost every week.

TBH, I can't remember if it was a few weeks or maybe 2 months ... what I do know is the only viable <Hate> trainer, Speedd, didn't have all the VT keys which made it very difficult to train(Pretty sure this is why <Hate> agreed to the pact in the first place, not because of server health).

I was also there for 90% of the raids boxing multiple classes.

Either way, that is besides the point. My point is training is a viable tactic. No reason to even discuss this though because the GMs have already stated that training will be "illegal" on the new server as well.

Hypothetically, if training was legal on red from day 1, we probably wouldn't see all these cry baby threads about Nihilum.

[STILLnotMORNIN]

my guides do not have the ability to suspend on red at the current moment, so i have asked them to just go ahead and use #ban for any and all instances where #suspend would have been used.

Perma bans will be going out for all offenses until people learn to act right. this server will be cleansed of it's filth, or i will die trying.

you've been warned.

have fun and GL


edit - also, as far as guilds using coordination to train, or repeatedly training on dumb alts, yes i'm aware of it. and if it becomes an issue i can always hold guild leadership accountable for the actions of their members. it surely wouldnt be the first time. If you can't control your people, you better boot them, because you can share in their punishment if you are unable to control your members.


You wont have a server to ban people on if you get rid of all the filth.

[Dullah]

isn't saying homo technically a slur?

welp, /wave red

Dont let the door penetrate u on the way out.

[Azure]

Dont let the door penetrate u on the way out.

Lube up real good and enjoy it. Just relax. God gave you all prostates for a reason.

[Greegon]

isn't saying homo technically a slur?

welp, /wave red

abbreviation of a legitimate word to describe sexual orientation?

[Langrisserx]

yea thats what he meant u clueless homosexual

[evilldacbane]

You wont have a server to ban people on if you get rid of all the filth.

[Sirken]

You wont have a server to ban people on if you get rid of all the filth.

im ok with that

[big mouth chew]

PRAS

[Lightatom]

Glory to Sirken!

[Vile]

praise sirkdawg, ban these maggots off the box and make them suffer.

actually getting some of these people off the box would make them suffer less irl imo..

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[raka]

Dude, samwise.

It is absolutely sad that you think that way.

If i call a cop a pig, he shouldnt put me in jail.

Thinking that is acceptable is a travesty

u real?

call a cop a pig..

see what happens.....

this is the real world....no imaginary god will protect you......you stupid ass pig

[Humerox]

Syft is definitely not Azrael.

As far as gorilla tactics go. It's usually nihilum who resorts to this because they will never beat us straight up in PvP. Except that one time, when we charged them 21v35. :)

Meme worthy bro. :)

all in good fun

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