Out Of Range (OOR) Dispelling: Is it allowed

[Langrisserx]

Not, do you think it should be, but IS it definitely NOT allowed and considered an exploit and bannable offense.

Could not find answer to this, but people always threatening to cry to mommy. Will mommy listen?

[Agatha]

its a bannable offense, get fraps of it.

[big mouth chew]

pretty sure its legal, nihilum alts were doing it in that video where they showed lite 2boxing

[Silent]

For a while when it was first discovered people did it all over to everyone, I was pelled on numerous occasions by lowbies parked at KC. Eventually it turned into a shit fest when everyone started doing it purposely and iirc thats when sirken or zade started suspending/warning and said its now considered a exploit and bannable offense. These alts that were doing it were nihilum at first, Funny how every exploit post patch always trickles out that way.

[big mouth chew]

ur not a gm so im pretty sure you have a forum ban inc for saying its bannable since as far as i know its not

idk i got banned for telling bluebies that duxa ui is not only ugly but also bannable

so u better start thinkin of a new forum name now heheheheheh

[heals4reals]

Its legal and fun

[heartbrand]

no GM's who knows

[SamwiseRed]

if its fun and entertaining, its legal imo

[Mingo]

http://i43.tinypic.com/300fx44.jpg

[heals4reals]

Its not written on forums. In game broadcast only informs players online at the time most likely 40 people noon eastern.

If something is considered a bannable bug maybe it should be fixed with haste not left lingering to act as bait. I believe thats called predatory practice and is illegal in the the united states.

Honestly thats just disgusting and that kind of broadcast from zade is the reason our box is where its at. These on the fly "we gonna ban u for doing something that we'd rather tell u not to do than just fix" bullshit.

Oor dispell your heart out.

Inc forum ban for being too immersed.

[heartbrand]

Ya pretty much what above poster said

[Mingo]

You guys are muddying your personal opinions of how the server is being handled ATM with a legitimate question asked by a member of HECK and a new player to the server. Regardless of any personal biases, opinions, frustrations or grudges against the server answering a new player's question is still reasonable.

[big mouth chew]

not believing some obviously photoshopped "system message" by a "gm"

if they didnt want us doing it there'd be a stickied thread

[heals4reals]

Yes
Giovanni, heals4reals, SamwiseRed

Real heroes

[Nirgon]

Zade announces its an exploit (fucking duh, seriously).

Penalty perma ban.

No one perma banned despite prolific use.

Retribution is not feared from CSR for many and for a reason. Time to get the .45 and start blowing pixel brains out, Zade.

Smiling down on ya'll.

[heals4reals]

Uh no nirgon gotta disagree

If its not wanted then fix it

Otherwise working as intended

Thats like putting a portable stop sign out of plain view and parking a cop around a bush and giving every1 a ticket

Supreme court says GTFO predatory practices

[Tune]

Uh no nirgon gotta disagree

If its not wanted then fix it

Otherwise working as intended

Thats like putting a portable stop sign out of plain view and parking a cop around a bush and giving every1 a ticket

Supreme court says GTFO predatory practices

BABY DOWN

[Nirgon]

:rolleyes:

Can't take a guy who trades outside of town seriously

[heals4reals]

BABY DOWN

Whats that mean?

[Nirgon]

It means he can't understand sarcasm and is one of the idiots that abuses glaring bugs/exploits with the prepared "I didn't know I couldn't do that" statement.

[heals4reals]

I usually tell people tune is a good guy in voip and enjoyed talking to him back in the day

[SamwiseRed]

if I were GM, OOR dispelling wouldnt be a problem because there would be no level range to begin with.

[STILLnotMORNIN]

no GM's who knows

I have done this in front of Zade and sirken and showed them this like the last time I played.. which is now months ago..

And on another thought.. all you people that cry exploit are faggots.. Exploiting is a misunderstood word used by bad players to criminalize good players. If your not taking advantage of every bit of coding that makes you better at the game, then your failing at EQ imo. Exploit your asses off and you will gain my respect atleast.

[big mouth chew]

dispell is a beneficial spell.... next ull be telling me oor healing is an exploit

or buffing noobies

[heals4reals]

dispell is a beneficial spell.... next ull be telling me oor healing is an exploit

or buffing noobies

U GM yet gatdayum

[Mingo]

The animosity feels a bit misguided. If you want OOR dispelling to be a viable and legal practice then petition/submit to the GM's for this change. Currently it's illegal, i dont know who is crying foul, i know that if you're going to have a policy that is bannable (mind you not suspendable) it should be public knowledge.

[Dullah]

dispell is a beneficial spell.... next ull be telling me oor healing is an exploit

or buffing noobies

Ya, beneficial. Thats why mobs attack you when you cast it on them. It can be either obviously.

[Andis]

if gms didn't want to allow something, they should code against it... not give us the option and punish those who choose to do what the game lets us fucking do.

and that goes for everything, not just oor dispelling - training, bind camping, etc

must agree

if they dont want it done, should be fixed.

[heartbrand]

if gms didn't want to allow something, they should code against it... not give us the option and punish those who choose to do what the game lets us fucking do.

and that goes for everything, not just oor dispelling - training, bind camping, etc

So does that include deleting my zone files and moving mob bind points via High Sun and tanking Mobs where their AOE's won't function?

[big mouth chew]

Thats why mobs attack you when you cast it on them.

prove it

(no, really. try it and get back to me)

[big mouth chew]

yeah how come i never got an official step-by-step instruction how to benefit from deleting zone files like < nihilum > members did??


oh i know why hahahhahhahahhahahaha nvm dont ban me broz

[Vile]

what about being "more lucky than exploit".. will that exclude me from a ban?

[heals4reals]

Ya, beneficial. Thats why mobs attack you when you cast it on them. It can be either obviously.

What happens if I cast a strength buff on an npc?

[Colgate]

you know what my favorite thing about this thread is? dullah has leveled 5 characters to 60, 4 of which were melee with one being an iksar shadowknight, and despite having 300+ days played, he still doesnt know how simple mechanics like dispel work

truly a sad, mad bad

[Langrisserx]

So no one actually knows?

IMO, an exploit would be having a NPC that doesnt attack lower level players or something, and should, and people use OOR dispell to help kill knowing its broken.

Casting dispell has PVP solutions, ie start a character and kill the OOR, or "accidentally" kill them with NPC's (not in a training per se... maybe a monk just happens to FD and OOR gets in the way, which results in their death since they are too low level...)

Please GM respond with definitive answer!

[heals4reals]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/df/Patch_Adams.jpg

[runlvlzero]

http://i43.tinypic.com/300fx44.jpg

[Langrisserx]

yes we've all seen the photoshopped picture stop posting it .. clearly there is no consensus among players so I would ask server staff to clarify and sticky.

[Langrisserx]

ANSWER PLEASE SOMEONE IN CHARGE

[runlvlzero]

ANSWER PLEASE SOMEONE IN CHARGE

Was all caps necessary? I use all caps. But this seems like a time when your entire post being in all caps is unnecessary. No emphasis was needed.

[Langrisserx]

pretty sure it is since no one can answer a simple question.

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[Langrisserx]

ANSWER IT NAO SERVER STAFF NOT PEOPLE WITH OPINIONS LIKE ASSHOLES EVERYONE GOT ONE GM > IYO/IMO SS PS NO THX BYE

[Silent]

anyone claiming was photoshopped is a troll. I just didn't feel the need to take a screenshot of something I already knew to be an exploit. Zade doing a system wide message of this just reinforced the fact to people.

Taken straight from Nihilum's PVP leaderboard stats of ooc by Zade himself, Since you can't search system messages.

Zade: oor dispelling, its being fixed. doing it will result in a ban. your conscience was not clear. dumb prick
9/8/2013 1:40:57 AM

Trolls will be trolls. Defeated for now.



http://i43.tinypic.com/300fx44.jpg

[Vile]

lol you all cry about it.. catch it on fraps and send vid to sirken for bannage imo

[heals4reals]

anyone claiming was photoshopped is a troll. I just didn't feel the need to take a screenshot of something I already knew to be an exploit. Zade doing a system wide message of this just reinforced the fact to people.

Taken straight from Nihilum's PVP leaderboard stats of ooc by Zade himself, Since you can't search system messages.

Zade: oor dispelling, its being fixed. doing it will result in a ban. your conscience was not clear. dumb prick
9/8/2013 1:40:57 AM

Trolls will be trolls. Defeated for now.



http://i43.tinypic.com/300fx44.jpg

ROFL

ok so, if im lvl 51 and im exping with my lvl 52 friend, and a lvl 60 comes and attacks him, im suppose to sit there with my thumb up my ass, or help by dispelling?

also, before the patch to block high lvl spells from being casted on low level players, are we retroactively banning anyone that casted natureskin or heroism on someone low level?

lets make sure its all real clear and that the rule is created in ooc please

[runlvlzero]

yeah you are a bastard if you cast dispell on a 60 at 51

[Langrisserx]

interesting OOC at 1:40 am on someones time zone plus screenshot.

Looks like we're leaning towards a positive result in querying this stupid rule for cry babies.

Thank you for your time. Server staff please confirm, dont let this guy do all the work.

[Giovanni]

interesting OOC at 1:40 am on someones time zone plus screenshot.

Looks like we're leaning towards a positive result in querying this stupid rule for cry babies.

Thank you for your time. Server staff please confirm, dont let this guy do all the work.


Dude, we're still waiting on the rules for pvping in pofear. Get in line.

[Nirgon]

Way to kick yourself in the ass with that ooc parser

Definitely flashed my pearly whites at it

[Langrisserx]

Fuck it, the crybabies never get their way and then they quit server cause no one likes them to begin... going to keep dispelling on the rare occasion that it is the only recourse to a high level griefing or being an ass for some reason... this hardly even happens and i dont go out of my way to do it... but i will have sex in your car again.

it will happen.

[Silent]

Go ahead, Don't let my post stop you. I don't care if you do or do not. I haven't had issues with being oor dispelled in weeks probably longer. Shits for dumb foh/lowbie shit.

As far the guy complaining about a 51 and 52, No you shouldn't pell them, but it probably doesn't matter because you're friends going to get raped regardless. You are better off healing him if you can. As for buffs, get a life woooow so bad cry more

[Retti_]

jupe thats a lot of hostility

im assuming oor pell have caused u some emotional distraught

[Dacuk]

remember when there was talk of actual server rules?

lol

[Silent]

Retti just mad we left and his guild went to shit, was already going to shit before that when he was kicking players out left and right that were needed.

[Sektor]

there isn't enough players for any guild to kick anyone out on red99 you work with what you got or your leadership is shit imo

that's why force failed.

force would of been fine if our ally guild didn't try to grief us every 2 seconds. Hopefully the Force members wake up and join Nilly and not Lite the scum of red99.

[Retti_]

Retti just mad we left and his guild went to shit, was already going to shit before that when he was kicking players out left and right that were needed.

lol what?

a) wasn't my guild
b) no feelings over you leaving
c) t99 disbanded heresy not the loss of jupe/agatha
d) only player kicked was salty cus hes a madbadsad
e) i've relayed to all ex heresy's that they should join azrael when they ask me

so what are you ranting about?

[Nirgon]

You guys fought over sky loots and fungis

Admit it

Back on track with the original point of this thread

The fact there's any debate that someone should have been warned for doing it once, suspended thereafter or banned if they had a previous suspension for exploiting shouldn't even be the point of a debate

But Lite allegedly 4-10 boxing in sky or teams is the real reason you guys aren't seeing a pop right?

Pfft

[Silent]

Left long before any t99 annnouncement, Plus you always gave off that impression you ran things since no other officer was on. Your beef with Salty was personal, Losing the only guilded epic cleric. I have no problem with you, You just said a lot of things that weren't true IE the night we left when we were duoing for exp you asked why we didn't 'make' a guild group for exp after thats all we had done all week. Anyway this is no place to get into it its the past and done with I want to see how Sektors is still swinging from Nizzars nutsack.

Would love to have known when Azrael and Force merged how Azrael tried 'griefing' Force members every 2 seconds. Especially first trak kill loot went to core force. Sektors been brainwashed by Nihilum, People in Force where there for a reason, They didn't like nihilum or what it stood for. Hey whens VP sektors? Get your Crown of Rile yet on Sektorx?

[Langrisserx]

why are you shitting in the prison stevie

STOP LOOKING AT ME SHIT

BUMP DIS BUMP DIS DUMP PISS

[Langrisserx]

A little bird told me Ambrotos logged in to and said not to OOR dispell, to fraps offenders.

/thread and /wrist

[Langrisserx]

OOR DISPELLING SEMI-CONFIRMED - NOT ALLOWED IF YOU GET CAUGHT DOING IT, THAT IS

[Langrisserx]

Acrux Bcrux, Agatha, Andis, Bokke, ChubbyBubbles, Dequarius, Dullah, Elderan, eskimospy, False, Flipmode, Handpartytowel, johnny6, Labanen, Langrisserx, Liten, Loto, Mingo, mostbitter, Nirgon, psyops, runlvlzero, Sektor, Silent, Silikten, Syft, Vampiro, XiakenjaTZ

we all now confirmed immersed enough to know this

[Langrisserx]

http://i.imgur.com/qNmSL4c.jpg

maybe a sticky post or mention in rules some where. if anything, awareness level could be raised...

[Langrisserx]

i know right, hard to get a simple answer sometimes.