Nooby Druid or Nec

[Nytch]

I play a wiz on Blue but get bored (origionally from SZ) I want to try out Red and thinking about rolling a druid since they are a tad less gear dependant and can solo pretty well. I also thought about Necro but hear they are pretty terrible PvP. I played on the Newt team so I have no experience with Necro's to know if this is true. Since I wont know anyone to when i start would druid be a decent choice?

[runlvlzero]

Druid is a really good choice. But lacks the firepower of wiz. But if you like to dot, regen, and range, you can keep engaged in pvp for much longer than a wizard can.

Same thing with necros, but druid has the ability to finish the job and get that sweet sweet juicy YT.

[heals4reals]

Both are good options. U might have more fun on druid who can group if bored of solo port and snipe people in pvp.

Druid also lets u PL ur friends later down the road.

[Fame]

Port classes make money and friends. Go druid

[Potus]

I play a wiz on Blue but get bored (origionally from SZ) I want to try out Red and thinking about rolling a druid since they are a tad less gear dependant and can solo pretty well. I also thought about Necro but hear they are pretty terrible PvP. I played on the Newt team so I have no experience with Necro's to know if this is true. Since I wont know anyone to when i start would druid be a decent choice?

Necros are bad on this server because of some horrible bugs with pets, dot resists, and people being smart enough to dispel/cure your dots when you land them.

I'd go druid personally.

[Nytch]

Necros are bad on this server because of some horrible bugs with pets, dot resists, and people being smart enough to dispel/cure your dots when you land them.

I'd go druid personally.

Can't they just dispell the Druid DoT's too?

[HippoNipple]

Can't they just dispell the Druid DoT's too?

Yes, and necros have dots that require cure disease/poison

[runlvlzero]

Yeah, but druids also have nukes to back them up. SoW, heals, self ports. If your smart you can keep dotting someone for a long while until they wear out. Or sneaky you can get them dots below buffs. Dotting in pvp on a druid is an attrition tactic or decoy. Once the fight starts getting close you can nuke/stun/nuke to kill if you've managed to wear your opponent down some or make them strip their buffs.

Its not perfect or going to win every situation. But it gives you options.

Necro's have shadowstep and harmsheild. Pets are totally worthless. Taps are not as effective in pvp here.

[Bardalicious]

I have a mid level druid here. It's a great starting class simply for the fact you have sow all the time and the easiest means of transportation, which I can't stress enough as being vital on a box with such a low pop. PvP wise its pretty bland. Pretty much buff run nuke nuke run heal nuke. Any good pvper has a pumice for root snare and swarms. Bury that levitate deep bro, ain't got time for no melee hittin u.

[runlvlzero]

yeah jousting classes funnest pvp hands down. but cant solo them well usually.

[Nirgon]

PvP dev might make necro good again (classic)

[runlvlzero]

PvP dev might make necro good again (classic)

Might try one on Teams99 especially if good again!

[heals4reals]

Fo sho

[Potus]

PvP dev might make necro good again (classic)

Necros actually were shit in PvP from Kunark to Velious. The only way to make them better would be to un-nerf pet damage (not classic), un-nerf dot damage or make them harder to cure/dispel (not classic), or buff lifetaps in pvp (not classic either).

[dethbringre]

Also if you have the patience for it for the first few lvls, a Bard can solo quite easily into the 30s/40s in just a few days or so and are quite fun to play

[Nytch]

What about Shaman, I assume they are the same as druids but without ports?

[Nirgon]

Necros actually were shit in PvP from Kunark to Velious. The only way to make them better would be to un-nerf pet damage (not classic), un-nerf dot damage or make them harder to cure/dispel (not classic), or buff lifetaps in pvp (not classic either).

Respectfully and with great personal experience, disagree.

[Vayder]

The only way to make them better would be to un-nerf pet damage (not classic), un-nerf dot damage or make them harder to cure/dispel (not classic), or buff lifetaps in pvp (not classic either).

You forgot the classic way to make them better: counters on spells. If it took the appropriate number of casts of Cure Disease, Cure Poison, or Cancel Magic to remove buffs/debuffs/DoTs then all of the sudden things are classic and Necros and other classes reliant on these spells become much better.

In the meantime, Deflux doesn't care about dispel.

[heals4reals]

Shaman is excellent I wish I had a 60 shaman

Also necros can be real potent and difficult to deal with. They just usually force plugs or make people die at their bind points without kill credit. I dint think I have ever had some 1 cast screaming terror on me here to block a gate tho. Do they know or does it not land?

[Nytch]

Think I will have to go with Druid, that way if I have no friends at least I can travel for free!

[Potus]

You forgot the classic way to make them better: counters on spells. If it took the appropriate number of casts of Cure Disease, Cure Poison, or Cancel Magic to remove buffs/debuffs/DoTs then all of the sudden things are classic and Necros and other classes reliant on these spells become much better.

In the meantime, Deflux doesn't care about dispel.

Are the counters here not classic? A quick glance at the spell data says they are.

Also Deflux is pretty bad. It won't outheal one round of melee damage.

[runlvlzero]

newbie diseases from mobs counter right, so do guk shaman mobs.

[runlvlzero]

your thinking of something different than disease and poison counters, those are like the way dispells work, terminology might be the same and, yeah it could be messed up.