Teams server *Details Inside*

[Rust1d?]

Before we even decide what teams will be, 2 or 3, good vs evil, deity based etc, I think we need to decide if the server will be 100% Classic or will it be custom. K&B was a custom 3 team pvp server and it failed. So obviously, something like that is not going to last in the long term.

If the server is going to be custom, we should think about what went wrong with K&B and fix it. Then decide on the teams. Teams can be whatever would make balance, regardless of lore etc. So DE Bards and DE druids would be possible.

If the server will be classic, then the only decision is how to balance the teams best. We all know evil will always be most powerful anyway, so it is best to decide then if we go 2 or 3 teams.

[gotrocks]

Will not play if there are DE bards.

I think a lot of people would feel the same way.

[Rust1d?]

They had DE bards in Eq2 :D

[gotrocks]

^^ ew.

[Rust1d?]

I think for the teams to be truly even, there will have to be customization. Personally, I am fine with evil being a bit OP, but I know others will not be. Hard to please everybody.

[HippoNipple]

No custom bullshit on that level. When people say custom they mean adding a race to a team that wasn't the case on SZ/TZ/VZ or possibly making the evil team FFA. Allowing dark elfs to be druids/bards is going way to far.

[Nirgon]

SZ would be probably best... adding religions to certain classes for the server.. I dunno how tough that is to implement

[Sk00ba5t3v3]

Classic, with a custom twist. Race war. Humanoids vs Elfs vs Shorties vs. Evil. None of the teams can communicate with eachother unless being proficient in that tongue but they cannot ever buff/trade.

[Versch]

I like the SZ teams, but hated that good/newts didn't get SK/Nec and evil didn't get pally/ranger/druid.

Maybe put a quest in that allows those certain classes to convert religions? Make it a one-time thing, no going back and forth.

[Rec]

There's a difference between custom and the stupidity of DE druids. You're influencing your own poll

[Rust1d?]

I'm just putting it out there. The issue with having teams is that certain class/race combinations will not be available to the teams, giving one an advantage over the other.

[Nirgon]

Salty is right on this one.

Mechanic fixes + true no rules probs = a win.

Should suspend once, ban second for spamming racist and homophobic shit in game tho.

[porigromus]

Would it be so bad to have a FFA server, +/- 4 levels but with safe zones for leveling? I think you would see the server flourish if this was the case. Leave people enough zones to get 1-60 if they choose without PvPing or maybe at least to 50. It doesn't have to be the best mod zones or dungeons.

I know most won't like this idea but I am telling you, you will have a server population. No raid zone would be safe. If you want to PvP while leveling or try to get the best XP mod, you will go to contested zones.

The more and more I think of how to make a successful PvP server, this idea stands out in my mind. People love the option to not be griefed to death if they choose not to but also want to enjoy PvP on their terms. I think more PvP would be happening than on Red99 now. People would go to contested zones just for the PvP.

Edit: Of course it goes without out saying first fix the issues on Red99 that hurt PvP. Also I think a group XP bonus should be in place.

[Bazia]

sirken stream said don't expect it for at least 6 months

hehehe plenty of time to agree on best ruleset pals

[Rec]

try the item loot out on the FFA server and see how much everyone loves it first

[mtb tripper]

i am hiro