GM Hand Holding

[Darksinga]

This post was inspired by Stasis' thread in regards to same race griefing. However, I strongly believe there should be incentive and punishment for one's decisions.

1) Corpse Camping illegal.
2) Training illegal.
3) "Silent" LnS permitted. You talk crap while you're looting and your LnS rights are revoked.
4) Bind rushing illegal.

The result of violating above actions?

First Offense:
GM Will De-level you by 10 lvls.

Second Offense:
Character Deletion.

Third Offense:
3) IP banned.

This HAS to be a serious matter from day one. If griefing is allowed on this box we will see the server's population drop drastically.

Players should also be rewarded for good behavior. If a specific team is known for it's good behavior, boost xp gain for all elves or gnomes or humans by 10% for a week. If your team is reported for it's bad behavior then you'll be leveling awfully slow fellas: this may also make people think twice about rolling on specific teams such as the dark team.

We need GM hand holding on this server for the population to thrive.

HOW TO BALANCE GM CORRUPTION/DECISION MAKING PROCESS

Implement a system much like League of Legend's tribunal system. In the case of a petition/offense occurring, the GM's will post the logs of the encounter to a specific thread on the forums. As such, players can help GM's on the decision making process. Players found guilty by the jury will go through the punishment of the three offenses.

Neat idea that may encourage players to participate in "jury duty" is to offer a cash incentive. If you participate in the jury process of a player, you are rewarded (X) amount of platinum. Custom idea for the last part, throwing shiz at the wall.

[runlvlzero]

Going to be a deciding factor on whether teams works or not without hardcore SZ rules.

I say just vett 12 active dedicated players with 24hr suspension power. If they abuse it take it away and give it to another player. If its a problem the player being suspended can contact a real GM to get a review. And the GM call will superceed the guide.

Fairly democratic and not destructive like permabans. If shit gets really ugly perma ban after review is an option. We should have some means of gaining the power to police ourselves with only 3rd party judges as necessary. Right now its the wild wild wild west with a marshal in town and usually payed off, placated, distracted, diverted, by the big railroad company. We need some deputies with oversight so they can be uncorrupted when they are corrupt. Its gonna happen. Have a battle plan in place to deal with it.

[abacab-winner]

Implement a system much like League of Legend's tribunal system. In the case of a petition/offense occurring, the GM's will post the logs of the encounter to a specific thread on the forums. As such, players can help GM's on the decision making process.

dumb.

With my rep I could KS a gnoll pup in the hills and you'll be screaming character deletion.

[Darksinga]

Hence why logs will be posted?

The tribunal system is one of the best things I've seen done to a game. Even though it's never been done to a mmorpg, LoL is looking to the future by creating a jury of your peers.

[Darksinga]

Going to be a deciding factor on whether teams works or not without hardcore SZ rules.

I say just vett 12 active dedicated players with 24hr suspension power. If they abuse it take it away and give it to another player. If its a problem the player being suspended can contact a real GM to get a review. And the GM call will superceed the guide.

Fairly democratic and not destructive like permabans. If shit gets really ugly perma ban after review is an option. We should have some means of gaining the power to police ourselves with only 3rd party judges as necessary. Right now its the wild wild wild west with a marshal in town and usually payed off, placated, distracted, diverted, by the big railroad company. We need some deputies with oversight so they can be uncorrupted when they are corrupt. Its gonna happen. Have a battle plan in place to deal with it.

24 hour suspensions hold no sort of reprimand whatsoever. Even though I do like your idea of making the community involved in the decision making process, consequences should be more severe. If your going to be a douchebag who will grief 10-20 players off the server, I rather see you IP banned after offense #3. 3 strikes and your out.

[abacab-winner]

Hence why logs will be posted?

The tribunal system is one of the best things I've seen done to a game. Even though it's never been done to a mmorpg, LoL is looking to the future by creating a jury of your peers.

Yeah man, my peers.

http://i33.tinypic.com/fyfomh.jpg

[Darksinga]

You have only posted half truths. We don't know your offense, what you did, why you did it, or how many times you did it.

If you trained some one deliberately three times, or corpse camped a player three times despite silent LnS, yes I would say you deserve a ban. However, that decision wouldn't ultimately be up to me. It would be up to several players. Perhaps a jury of say 20. Reasonable players who earned the title to be a "juror!"

[Vexenu]

Yeah man, my peers.

http://i33.tinypic.com/fyfomh.jpg

What the hell is this? You complain about having a bad rep after apparently going out of your way to be an asshole?

Uhh...welcome to life?

[Silikten]

Yeah, bad reputations happen because, well, you're an idiot. That's why it happens. . . How about you stop being a griefer?

[Tradermule]

Why do you retards on this board keep suggesting:

Third Offense:
3) IP banned.

The internet doesn't work that way. One can easily unplug their modem and plug it back in. Bam, different IP and just circumvented your scary IP ban. Even if their ISP forces a single IP for a single MAC address, they can spoof their MAC to get a different IP. Amazes me how easily the technically illiterate can somehow make it onto an emulated server.

[Zuranthium]

Terrible suggestions. All of those things need to be allowed. If you don't like it, then tell your team to kill the people who are doing it. That's what PvP is all about.

[runlvlzero]

IP bans dont work, suspensions on accounts do. Can keep an account suspended enough its too much of a hassle, some people will make 3 accounts though just to do stuff like train.

[AffEcT]

The really good thing about the Sullon Zek ruleset, ofc being that there are no rules, is that you limit the GM intervention in major guild fights over raidmobs and zone control.

Anyone who played vztz or basicly any major PvP server will have memorys of this.
Guild <Blue> runs into PoF and trains guild <Red>. After that guild <Red> runs comes back with ppl and train guild <Blue> back.
Only this time a GM is watching and witnesses that part and ofc Guild <Red> gets banned for training.

We all know this happends and i have seen it so many times. PPL who know the GMs and use that in order to get help and leverage.

So if you just remove the rules.... That shit will not happen. Not saying this is what the new server needs. Just keeping it real dawgz!

[Colgate]

Anyone who played red99 or basicly any major PvP server will have memorys of this.
Guild <Nihilum> pulls naggy into a wall and brags about it on the forums. After that guild <Holocaust> runs comes back with nagafen in a wall back.
Only this time a GM is watching and witnesses that part and ofc Guild <Nihilum> gets banned for nagafen in a wall.

We all know this happends and i have seen it so many times. PPL who know the GMs and use that in order to get help and leverage.

fixed

[AffEcT]

fixed

Hahahaha!
Was it that obvious?

[Darksinga]

Why do you retards on this board keep suggesting:



The internet doesn't work that way. One can easily unplug their modem and plug it back in. Bam, different IP and just circumvented your scary IP ban. Even if their ISP forces a single IP for a single MAC address, they can spoof their MAC to get a different IP. Amazes me how easily the technically illiterate can somehow make it onto an emulated server.

3. IP ban = we track down your IP, go to your house, and ban you from ever playing again by sledgehammering your computer until it looks like a toaster.

[Darksinga]

Terrible suggestions. All of those things need to be allowed. If you don't like it, then tell your team to kill the people who are doing it. That's what PvP is all about.

Obvious Sullon Zek player. How many times do we need to prove that SZ had the lowest population and your desire for a hardcore server are simply not desired. Stay on Red99 when teams launch if you want a grief box.

[Rec]

Obvious Sullon Zek player. How many times do we need to prove that SZ had the lowest population and your desire for a hardcore server are simply not desired. Stay on Red99 when teams launch if you want a grief box.

Just once

[Nirgon]

More rules to enforce on yet another server. Gr8.