What is required for Red Zek to be successful

[Stasis01]

Player attitude needs to change.

I have heard many times throughout the announcement that people's sole purpose is to grief their team, grief other players, all roll the same team and grief the others ETC.

This is the attitude that has brought us here to a low population grief fest box. Holocaust helped set up this attitude, as well as Nizzar and the Nihilum crew.

The community needs to understand that this will lead to the same frustrating low population shitty situation we have now, and work together to make these people the outcasts.

A suggestion that I have that was from VZTZ is a mandatory LNS when the losing guilds GUILDLEADER calls it - the guild will be allowed to loot and be required to leave the zone.

Other than that - it's really up to the players, and don't be confused - this will take everyone, even Nihilum members. Nizzar will try hard to make this box a failure, as will Tune I imagine - they want a low population grief box that they can manipulate to their advantage.

THE COMMUNITY HAS TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS A FUN PLACE.

Stop being faggots, being a badass was cool back in 99 - this is 2013, we are mostly grown adults. I am turning a new leaf and hope others see the errors in our ways with Red99.

There will be those that try to put this mentality back into the teams server - IT WILL TAKE THE MAJORITY TO STOP THIS WITH THE HELP OF GM'S WITH A PNP.

The rule set supports community, the coding is acceptable - it is up to the players to choose if they want to grief everyone and play by themselves, or just pick and choose their shots - and try to work with people and have fun.

TLDR Version - Choose Mufassa and have a land full of antelope to eat, Choose Scar(Nizzar) and the Hyenas and we will have a barren wasteland which is Red99.

Let's work together pals and make a fun environment, GM'S be active and just rid the community of the cancerous players that will try to grief the ruleset, EX) same team trainers.

[Giovanni]

I am a little bit worried that people will be boxing invuln spies, dispellers, or kser's on the opposite team.

[JayN]

as long a sh*wE* exists, i highly doubt a pvp server on p99 everquest will ever be very successful unfortunately.

due to our ever increasing number of social degenerate, megalomaniac, narcissistic-scumbags that feel the need to lord over anyone they can any way they can.

[Stasis01]

There will be people who try to ruin things - it really requires the community to speak out in a united voice who the cancerous players are, and how they are abusing the system.

Uthgaard policed blue99 with an iron fist, and TBH people didn't fuck around after they got spanked by him - this should be no different.

I argued low GM intervention - but it's quite the opposite that needs to happen. Sirken needs to lay the fucking smack down, and I'm going to talk to him about that.

[Syft]

There will be people who try to ruin things - it really requires the community to speak out in a united voice who the cancerous players are, and how they are abusing the system.

Uthgaard policed blue99 with an iron fist, and TBH people didn't fuck around after they got spanked by him - this should be no different.

I argued low GM intervention - but it's quite the opposite that needs to happen. Sirken needs to lay the fucking smack down, and I'm going to talk to him about that.

I see hacks used daily on this server, especially by one guild in particular might be time to start monitoring the guy in charge of finding them because never on sullon or rallos did I see shit this out of control.

New server's really not gonna change that

[Stasis01]

The people in Nihilum were right to a point.

Red99 catered to the WRONG players. If someone makes it their agenda to make Red Zek a shit hole whether it be forum spamming, ooc spamming ignorant comments, or griefing players by same team training/same team dispell bots - PERMA BAN.

Set the PRECEDENT that it isn't OK to act like a fucking douchebag.

We all helped make Red99 a shit hole, this is a fresh start, and it'll take the GM team Zade/Sirken who sounded like reasonable guys partnering with the players.

[Stasis01]

I haven't TBH - at the very most they use SEQ, and that's really minor in the grand scheme.

Should it be punishable - yes, but will it make or break a guild, especially with no variance. Probably not.

[Giovanni]

I think that boxing in general is a big issue right now.

Right now A LOT of players are boxing. If you aren't boxing, you are at a significant disadvantage.

I can guarantee that people will be boxing hard at server start to avoid falling behind.

If you could box your own bard or druid PL to level in 1/4 the time, why wouldn't you?

[Stasis01]

I agree, I have seen it run rampant on red99 as of late.

More out of desperation/no population maybe? Hopefully a higher population/ruleset that allows for safe areas and grouping to take place people won't NEED to?

It will most likely still happen, and I am not going to rat the confirmed boxers I have seen lately - I think the box is just in such a low point that people don't care anymore.

[Tradesonred]

There will be people who try to ruin things - it really requires the community to speak out in a united voice who the cancerous players are, and how they are abusing the system.

Uthgaard policed blue99 with an iron fist, and TBH people didn't fuck around after they got spanked by him - this should be no different.

I argued low GM intervention - but it's quite the opposite that needs to happen. Sirken needs to lay the fucking smack down, and I'm going to talk to him about that.

As long as the smackdown is warranted, i have no problems with that. I will just say i would not have set foot on red99 with uthgaard as head GM, ill leave it at that not to break GM decisions forum rule.

As for getting rid of griefers, its wishful thinking. Closest to not having them would have been FFA no xp loss from the get go, but like Bilbo said, i beleive that time has come and gone. Oh wait it was professor rapsum from that shitty day after tomorrow disaster movie.

[Stasis01]

I have had a run in myself with Uthgaard where I was banned for KSing people.

I felt I was justified, he did not and it took a lot of dick sucking to get out. When I was unbanned I realised it is easier to just walk away - Uthgaard style is EXACTLY what we need.

All we need is a guild vs guild PNP forced LNS as I mentioned in the OP - and a GM to be harsh with common sense.

[Tradesonred]

He banned me after 6 months clean whistle record, with me helpin test red99 coding, just for saying that cherry picking who gets to keep rule breaking names gave a corrupt cop flavor to GMing.

We dont need these kind of idiots with GM powers again

I guess hes not a GM anymore so it doesnt matter?

[Syft]

Been watching Nizzar run around at Bard speed with no bard for quite some time now.

Doesn't matter about coding and new server's at this point the boxes integrity has been ruined!

[Bogart]

More GM banning good idea stasis.

[Stasis01]

I have played a long time, and never seen that - and I have fought Nizzar a lot, and been around him a lot.

But hey, maybe he just risks the super huge advantage he has to cut down on travel time, or to beat the 55's left on the box.

[Stasis01]

Sirken needs to set the precedent that if you don't want ot be on the new server, and your only purpose is to burn it down you aren't welcome - which is really how common sense operates.

If you act like an asshole at the bar you're booted the fuck out.

[Tradesonred]

Sirken needs to set the precedent that if you don't want ot be on the new server, and your only purpose is to burn it down you aren't welcome - which is really how common sense operates.

If you act like an asshole at the bar you're booted the fuck out.

But where do you draw the line at when a GM must step in and arbitrarily decide that youve camped player X long enough? Maybe he camped him twice as much in the past, is the GM going to research all that shit before pressing that ban button?

Thats why FFA with no xp loss is the best ruleset, youre never going to get around griefers, the most you can do is minimize their impact. Devs failed to implement measures that would minimize griefing because apparently they thought poop camp mechanics were more important. Giving GMs a massive loadwork of sorting out whats real grief or not is a recipe for disaster.

Now theyre going to cluelessly make a new server thats got even more grief potential, with one winning team like nihilum hardcoded in.

[Stasis01]

I understand, if you think teams is a design to fix the end game - you'll see this as a stupid idea.

Server repops might be a way around variance - we'll see, it's an idea.

[Bardalicious]

lol hacking on live was far more rampant than here what are u smoking. SoE literally gave 0 fucks so long as they got that subscript son.

good luck trying to change the community here bro. only ppl still willing to play these pvp boxes are the worst offenders in regards to taking enjoyment from griefing others, even on a 100 pop box that needs every person it can get. we will never find the community balance that made these servers work bc lets face it, a lot of blue players back in the day rolled on pvp not knowing what they were getting into. and they banded together for the sake of enjoying the game.

now it's all lol hit max lvl asap, know all tactics every item drop max lewt GRIEF GRIEF GRIEF. nihilum had the chance to set the standard when they came out on top, and instead, they turned into the very guilds that they defeated. doubt it'll change on a new box pals.

[Syft]

I understand, if you think teams is a design to fix the end game - you'll see this as a stupid idea.

Server repops might be a way around variance - we'll see, it's an idea.

FACT: High end pvp has degraded into who has the most clicks, all Nihilum does is golem/conflag/blazing/ice wand or trak tooth me to death every single fight. If I get them low they soulfire charge or gate pot away.

Until those mechanics are nerfed this server will remain a joke and any new server will face the same issue as they'll farm dead red99 and role over with entire guildbanks filled with golem wands and gate pots, and start the hack fest all over again.

[heartbrand]

people use clickies on u because they know you'll make 10 posts crying about it within 30 seconds of the loading please wait screen


that being said trak teeth are dumb

[runlvlzero]

Player attitude needs to change.

I have heard many times throughout the announcement that people's sole purpose is to grief their team, grief other players, all roll the same team and grief the others ETC.

This is the attitude that has brought us here to a low population grief fest box. Holocaust helped set up this attitude, as well as Nizzar and the Nihilum crew.

The community needs to understand that this will lead to the same frustrating low population shitty situation we have now, and work together to make these people the outcasts.

A suggestion that I have that was from VZTZ is a mandatory LNS when the losing guilds GUILDLEADER calls it - the guild will be allowed to loot and be required to leave the zone.

Other than that - it's really up to the players, and don't be confused - this will take everyone, even Nihilum members. Nizzar will try hard to make this box a failure, as will Tune I imagine - they want a low population grief box that they can manipulate to their advantage.

THE COMMUNITY HAS TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS A FUN PLACE.

Stop being faggots, being a badass was cool back in 99 - this is 2013, we are mostly grown adults. I am turning a new leaf and hope others see the errors in our ways with Red99.

There will be those that try to put this mentality back into the teams server - IT WILL TAKE THE MAJORITY TO STOP THIS WITH THE HELP OF GM'S WITH A PNP.

The rule set supports community, the coding is acceptable - it is up to the players to choose if they want to grief everyone and play by themselves, or just pick and choose their shots - and try to work with people and have fun.

TLDR Version - Choose Mufassa and have a land full of antelope to eat, Choose Scar(Nizzar) and the Hyenas and we will have a barren wasteland which is Red99.

Let's work together pals and make a fun environment, GM'S be active and just rid the community of the cancerous players that will try to grief the ruleset, EX) same team trainers.

Mufasa <3

[Azure]

The Lion King was my favorite movie :p You have my claws! Rawr!

[Syft]

people use clickies on u because they know you'll make 10 posts crying about it within 30 seconds of the loading please wait screen


that being said trak teeth are dumb

LOL this from the guy who trak toothed me lmfao.

I been posting about trak teeth for months now, has nothing to do with them being used on me. Nihilum gonna use every click in your arsenal on me...

BECAUSE YOUR SHITTY PLAYERS AND CAN'T WIN WITHOUT THEM!

I know you all don't care how bad you look but at this point it makes ya'll look like fucktards and your to dumb to even realize it!

[heartbrand]

I used it on you despite having you 100% fucked to precision + throwing boulders because I knew you'd make a post crying about it and I would chuckle, and low and behold you did exactly that, and a hearty chuckle did I have

[Syft]

I used it on you despite having you 100% fucked to precision + throwing boulders because I knew you'd make a post crying about it and I would chuckle, and low and behold you did exactly that, and a hearty chuckle did I have

Would be believable if I didn't see you panicking and crying for backup on twitch lmfao.

http://i.imgur.com/ttLCvFM.gif

[Smedy]

They should make it Teams and Itemloot so the server just dies a quick death and we can get it over with

Where's Paymelinda when you need her

Can someone confirm the new resist devs identity?

[Colgate]

prob alecta

[Syft]

prob alecta

If it is who I think it's gonna be then there might be some hope!

[runlvlzero]

They should make it Teams and Itemloot so the server just dies a quick death and we can get it over with

Where's Paymelinda when you need her

Can someone confirm the new resist devs identity?

when are u making a new video.

Also Sirken said "Only got to be as succesful as VZTZ we'd put a fucking bullet through our heads" (http://www.twitch.tv/sirkenp99/b/455035625) Go to 18:58.

Thats some serious dedication right thar! pras sirken.

P.S. VZTZ had max pop 300, divide by 2 and u get reds current pop. We can do better. The devs want to do better.

[Syft]

when are u making a new video.

Also Sirken said "Only got to be as succesful as VZTZ we'd put a fucking bullet through our heads" (http://www.twitch.tv/sirkenp99/b/455035625) Go to 18:58.

Thats some serious dedication right thar! pras sirken.

P.S. VZTZ had max pop 300, divide by 2 and u get reds current pop. We can do better. The devs want to do better.

WTF everyone keep talking VZTZ those server's were the retarded cousins of Rallos and Sullon that often had 2000 players on nights!

[runlvlzero]

WTF everyone keep talking VZTZ those server's were the retarded cousins of Rallos and Sullon that often had 2000 players on nights!

What I think is funny is that everyone keeps saying the standard was VZTZ which wasnt even a teams server? I thought it was FFA.

And yeah I enjoyed all the EQ pvp servers I was on ( the classic ones from live). I'll compromise for w/e if it can be done right. Less freedom with more pop = win for me. Its not perfect its not the paradise. Ide rather have a perfect FFA discord MUD with no CSR beyond game bugs. But I am done asking for that. Because there'd be 15 people that would ever play there.

I'll be happy as long as you can fight in a zone with other players vs other players. Doesn't have to be every single one.

I already have to guild with people I don't like or group with people I don't like to get anywhere on R99, teams is not going to make it worse. Its a fact of life. Got to pay the price to make the wins.

I'm just hoping and praying for more options. A few more. Like 5 more would be good for me.

[Syft]

What I think is funny is that everyone keeps saying the standard was VZTZ which wasnt even a teams server? I thought it was FFA.

And yeah I enjoyed all the EQ pvp servers I was on ( the classic ones from live). I'll compromise for w/e if it can be done right. Less freedom with more pop = win for me. Its not perfect its not the paradise. Ide rather have a perfect FFA discord MUD with no CSR beyond game bugs. But I am done asking for that. Because there'd be 15 people that would ever play there.

I'll be happy as long as you can fight in a zone with other players vs other players. Doesn't have to be every single one.

I already have to guild with people I don't like or group with people I don't like to get anywhere on R99, teams is not going to make it worse. Its a fact of life. Got to pay the price to make the wins.

I'm just hoping and praying for more options. A few more. Like 5 more would be good for me.

If they do VZTZ rule and allow team grouping it's gonna be cross-teaming clusterfuck.

If the do sullon and make training legal, it will be a same team training clusterfuck!

Clowns like Heartbrand will log on neutral monk run mobs past his own team feign death, then log on his real team main and join nihilum as they camp the mob.

[runlvlzero]

Lets get these people banned early and on the spot. How hard is it to have a guide online during a dragon raid? The server knows "about when the mob will pop" pm a guide and if people do stupid shit, start banning them 1 at a time. I don't even care what happens in guk or unrest... just give people a fair chance at sportsmanlike behavior endgames so they have something to look forward to.

Though from what I hear this is a double detriment because people cant even debuff and memblur a dragon to get an advantage without being banned.

IF there not in Nihilum. Thats what I heard anyway.

[Absynthe2k5]

I am a little bit worried that people will be boxing invuln spies, dispellers, or kser's on the opposite team.

Totally worth worrying about too, it has and still happens. Every could group of players will have someone feeding them intel. Be it a spy or just the stupidity of people heading to zones 2 hours before a raid, calling it out in ooc or not choosing to use anon.

Spies/same team trainers etc, were a huge part of the game back on live they will always be there. Adds a whole level of dynamics good and bad.

[Absynthe2k5]

Lets get these people banned early and on the spot. How hard is it to have a guide online during a dragon raid? The server knows "about when the mob will pop" pm a guide and if people do stupid shit, start banning them 1 at a time. I don't even care what happens in guk or unrest... just give people a fair chance at sportsmanlike behavior endgames so they have something to look forward to.

Though from what I hear this is a double detriment because people cant even debuff and memblur a dragon to get an advantage without being banned.

IF there not in Nihilum. Thats what I heard anyway.

Can guides go incognito without the player base seeing them online? If so it only takes someone an hour to see what really happens when the authorities aren't around lol.

[Rec]

Even though it will never be enforced lets say you can't train your own team

[Absynthe2k5]

A discord server would be one helluva good thing to pop out from time to time. Let it run for a bit crown a winner shut it down for a bit. It has no longevity aside from a temporary clusterbleep of paranoid gang raping goodness. Great fun for a bit and lets everyone switch things up a bit. I understand though it takes a shitload to run servers equipment etc but still would be fun to see one come a few times a year for everyones enjoyment, think of it as a gimped BotB match that lasts a few weeks :)

[Zuranthium]

If the do sullon and make training legal, it will be a same team training clusterfuck!

Clowns like Heartbrand will log on neutral monk run mobs past his own team feign death, then log on his real team main and join nihilum as they camp the mob.

Nope. Give the teams the ability to 'report' players on their own team. If a player gets enough report votes, they become killable. And then the players kill them. Problem solved.

[heartbrand]

Nope. Give the teams the ability to 'report' players on their own team. If a player gets enough report votes, they become killable. And then the players kill them. Problem solved.

yaw nothing could EVER go wrong with that strat, what happens when all the griefers start votin the non griefers? or you vote someone you just dislike but has done nothing "wrong" per se?

[Zuranthium]

There aren't enough griefers to collectively vote the non-griefers. Even if there are, the non-griefers will always outnumber them. So they kill the griefers.

[Absynthe2k5]

If it is who I think it's gonna be then there might be some hope!

Alecta plays here?

[Silikten]

But where do you draw the line at when a GM must step in ....

When the player posts on the boards "I will grief." You ban the dude. Pretty simple in my books. Colgate, Salty, Heartbrand posted it outright. There's three easy choices.

[abacab-winner]

He banned me after 6 months clean whistle record, with me helpin test red99 coding, just for saying that cherry picking who gets to keep rule breaking names gave a corrupt cop flavor to GMing.

We dont need these kind of idiots with GM powers again

I guess hes not a GM anymore so it doesnt matter?

Lol Taxi Driver.

[heartbrand]

friedchicken same guy who repeatedly trained tranix in classic btw and exploited zone geometry of ledge

[Silikten]

HB, the same guy who plays riveting games of chess vs rocks. . .

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c374/00b3r/EQ000108.jpg (http://s31.photobucket.com/user/00b3r/media/EQ000108.jpg.html)

[Bazia]

yaw nothing could EVER go wrong with that strat, what happens when all the griefers start votin the non griefers? or you vote someone you just dislike but has done nothing "wrong" per se?

yeah i already realized that

but they are developing retarded carebear non classic ideas faster that i can point out why they are nonsensical

[heartbrand]

HB, the same guy who plays riveting games of chess vs rocks. . .

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c374/00b3r/EQ000108.jpg (http://s31.photobucket.com/user/00b3r/media/EQ000108.jpg.html)

would gladly play you in chess for char deletion, but besides that and your pic that was screenshotted after moving to cover ur own ass also this:

http://imageshack.com/a/img826/6019/7wcq.jpg (http://imageshack.com/i/my7wcqj/)[/URL]

[Stasis01]

Fried is right - get rid of the bitter folks.

We have a low population of die hards - lets try to advertise this and make it enjoyable to a broader community.

The day of the faggots is over.

It will take everyone.

[heartbrand]

FC same guy who said he'd rather see box die then mend past fences and align with holocaust to help fight nihilum, booted xant from TS killing server for 6 months etc., lulz

[Stasis01]

Fried made an opinion and you take personal shots, you really need a vacation from this box/forums.

Your posts are constantly filled with bitterness of shit that happened on shit99, Red Zek is a time for new beginnings.

[heartbrand]

says the guy who every post is full of warped anger @ red99 "griefers"

[Stasis01]

Here you go again, LOL.

Just stop.

[Silikten]

First, I was sitting there the whole time. Not sure why you'd make that up. That is why I will never see you as any good at pvp.

Second, I never said "i'd rather see the box die" (that I can recall). I did say I'd never ally with holocaust. Reason being, you had people like fiegi, cast, kringe, slathar, etc. People who are just plain undesirables.

Third, yes, I booted Xant. Sorry I don't sit here grouping with people who condoned constant trains, de-leveling of random guild mates, and people who constantly broke the rules.

[Dullah]

There aren't enough griefers to collectively vote the non-griefers. Even if there are, the non-griefers will always outnumber them. So they kill the griefers.

Rofl

guy obviously new to red