Iceclad Ocean.. a few questions

[nilbog]

1. Stormfeather spawn/respawn time. There is a lot of information (too much) about his spawn. How, exactly, did Stormfeather's spawn function in classic?

2. Lodizal respawn time?

3. Lodizal drops: On live, Lodizal now drops 2x maps, 2x loots, shell piece, and 4 spells. When I killed him back in the day, he dropped 1 map piece. When did this change?

4. Seaworthy Planking for the 'Breezeboot's Frigid Gnasher' quest: How many total spawn locations could this have and what was the respawn time?

5. Corudoth: Was this turtle in at original Velious launch?


Aside from these questions, the zone now looks really good. Lodizal eats gnolls and walruses, random rares are rare, and quests look great.

Note: During my research, I completed the Eyepatch of Plunder quest on eqlive and the Mighty Garou. They still... really suck. It took forever.

[Mehrk]

The original Lodi spawn would be hard to get right.. it was the stuff of rumors. Eventually it was fixed to be 12 with a +/- 1 hour variance, me and a friend claimed him every spawn for a month in PoP, however originally he supposedly skipped spawns sometimes, leading to wide speculation on when he pops. I would assume he has the same spawn timer, only the skipping was fixed. No idea if it was intentional or not.

I am basing this map/shell info off of http://dragonsofmist.dyndns.org/alla/npc.php?id=110099 as I honestly can't remember specifics and the site seems accurate, but I do know he could drop more than 1 shell. Regarding loot, one map was 100% and the other was a 35% chance, same for shell pieces. 2 random items(even the same item). He didn't drop 4 spells every time, according to a couple threads I dug up he sometimes dropped no spells. My memory was fuzzy on that since they were meaningless by PoP era.

I recall corudoth being in at launch, but no one used him because sony was nice enough to put Keref 5 inches from Lodi's spawn, so memory could be wrong. Eventually he was made to be uncharmable, but that was 4/21/04 from what I've found. He was for the quest Reinforcements for The Tunarean Regiment, which I never even knew about. I can't find any hard evidence of him being in at launch, but the quest has comments as early as 6/4/01.

Also, in before "BRO I HAD HIM SNARED IT WAS MY CLAIM."

[Somekid123]

Not often ill chime in on "How did this work" threads for lack of better words but..

I farmed Lodizal on the regular. When he would pop he would roam down by the ice sheets, around the village then back to the ice sheets. Far out enough that when a druid with live version track [Not the horrible version here since nerf.. sorry for the low blow Nilbog] he would sometimes be out enough that your track wouldn't show him EDIT: From being at gnoll village. 1 very important thing i'd like to add is he would randomly despawn for about what im recalling atm 10-20mins? Maybe someone else can add in on this, then respawn.

^ Above post is not saying he would respawn back to back every 20 mins if your lucky, im implying after his normal cycle time of spawning he would just randomly disappear then come back, I remember it bugging the hell out of me because I was on SZ and when I saw him up no one would be in zone, he'd despawn before I engaged then i'd be stressing that he wouldn't repop back in time before someone came in to clear him.

When I farmed him he always dropped 1 map 100% of time, I kinda want to say once 'n awhile 2? My memory is telling me both directions for some reason. Always dropped 1 shell + 2 items. It was a good day if you got 2 regen belts, just make sure u had a friend to loot other one since its Lore, good cash day. Spells I don't really recall as to how many / how often.

- Andain


ADD: All I can remember about Stormfeather is being exactly a 36 hour spawn. I can confidently say that 100% spawned on the corner with back to dock on gnome island, up to the right, he never roamed. I'd very rarely find him in zone then join the auction channel and see if I could sell loot rights, of course after I dragged him way way out and snared him, then threaten anyone not to pay up i'd nuke and loot page infront of them :P

[zel]

pretty sure SF could skip spawns which is fucked up.

[ripwind]

ADD: All I can remember about Stormfeather is being exactly a 36 hour spawn. I can confidently say that 100% spawned on the corner with back to dock on gnome island, up to the right, he never roamed. I'd very rarely find him in zone then join the auction channel and see if I could sell loot rights, of course after I dragged him way way out and snared him, then threaten anyone not to pay up i'd nuke and loot page infront of them :P

I recall this being a 36 hour spawn as well. Did two eyepatches on live around the POP era. I also remember him being stationary, as I would camp nearby any log on intermittently to check for him. Location sounds correct - He wasn't too far out from the dock.

[happyhappy]

4. Seaworthy Planking for the 'Breezeboot's Frigid Gnasher' quest: How many total spawn locations could this have and what was the respawn time?

At least 6 spawns that I know of (offland glaciers x2, gnoll lillypad x2, near port in, next to the fireplace in the gnome camp)

Can't speak for the respawn time, but it seemed common enough to not be a long one, I'd see the port one up really often porting in, and I'd always pick it up hoping it was another ground spawn, can't recall which now, snow griffon egg maybe?

[Tasslehofp99]

I deffinetly remember Corudoth being in velious at release. I remember running along the shoreline and aggro'ing a green con named turtle being like "Oh I wonder what this fellow drops" only to find out that dropping all of my mana into him didn't even touch his health. He had 32k~ hps? I think, from what I can remember. Toughest green con I've ever seen, lol. :eek:

[webrunner5]

Stormfeather always spawned the same place. But he did roam after he spawned. Not far that I remember. I camped him at least 10 times on live. He would skip spawns. But not a lot of times. It was around 36 hours give or take 20 minutes for spawns. It was a Long ass camp, because if you left or fell asleep someone else got him. 20% clicky haste was the bomb for any Mellee class. I think every Ranger had one. Easy to get for them with tracking and no animal attack.

Problem was hardly anybody ever said when he spawned last. Server re-sets really screwed it up also. I remember a 63 hour camp one time for me. Never again. The trick is to go to sleep and turn the volume up really high and when he pops he screeches really loud Wings flapping. Wakes you up. When he pops it will raise your Heart Rate trust me. It is a killer looking Mob.

I always remember 2 map pieces on Lodizal. And almost always spawning near the water or in it by the little Islands with the Gnolls on them. Been a long time ago though.

[kaos057]

pretty sure SF could skip spawns which is fucked up.

I remember this too. Everyone used to complain about this.

[Tiggles]

Camped stormfeather on live 36 hours but rarely could fuck you over and skip.

[nilbog]

From my research, the classic Stormfeather could be a maximum of 72(ish due to max 3 skips + -1/1) hour camp and Lodizal could be 54(ish due to max 2 skips + -1/1). If there are arguments, post up your research.

Everything here is gtg aside from the boat path.

Thanks folks, moving on.

[koros]

I don't remember lodi ever skipping, but I didn't camp him that much.

http://www.thesafehouse.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3724

Safehouse agrees but that's 2003. I'm unaware of an explicit change tho.

[nilbog]

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This has Lodizal at 21-24, and then 18-54.

http://www.monkly-business.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-8845.html

Needs discussion. Lots of things people posted earlier in thread were post-2001.

[Freakish]

When I camped him on my shaman I don't remember him having a variance. This was luclin+.

[koros]

That Milambus guy seems very sure of what he's saying... however I have some recollection differences.

"Sontatalak, level 63+, 1-3 day spawn, 7 day respawnWestern Wastes"

Sont I'm pretty sure was NOT 7. 3 I think?

This is also late 2001, and he has pre-planes revamp inny/ct/draco levels. I dunno.

[Hamahakki]

I camped Stormfeather a LOT early in Velious. Here is how he worked:

- His spawn timer is 10500 ticks (17.5 hours)
- There is no placeholder, but he can skip spawns. If he skips a spawn, it's the same as if he spawned and was killed instantly. If you kill Stormfeather, the next one will spawn in 17.5 hours, or 35 hours, or 52.5 hours, or 70 hours, etc... depending on how many spawns he skips.
- Chance to skip a spawn was about 50%, maybe a little higher.
- He spawns at the same spot and wanders back and forth across the island.
- He always drops the map piece and sometimes drops the claws.
- Not sure if he had variance or not, if he did it was very small. I would set alarms to check him and they were still very close even after multiple skips.

As for Lodizal, I don't remember the details, but he was much more common than Stormfeather. I killed him a bunch of times just because he was up while I was trying for the second map piece.

[Bantam 1]

I recall this being a 36 hour spawn as well. Did two eyepatches on live around the POP era. I also remember him being stationary, as I would camp nearby any log on intermittently to check for him. Location sounds correct - He wasn't too far out from the dock.

Ehhh I recall seeing him more than 36 hr spawn would allow...

I thought he had cougar placeholders or something?

[Erati]

Lody always drops 1 map piece n 1 shield

then 2 other random items + 2 lvl 60 Velious spells

not sure if he could drop two shields at a time or what, i think he could

[Sebekkha]

IIRC storm feather flew upto the gnome camp and back

[timhutton]

I camped Stormfeather a LOT early in Velious. Here is how he worked:

- His spawn timer is 10500 ticks (17.5 hours)
- There is no placeholder, but he can skip spawns. If he skips a spawn, it's the same as if he spawned and was killed instantly. If you kill Stormfeather, the next one will spawn in 17.5 hours, or 35 hours, or 52.5 hours, or 70 hours, etc... depending on how many spawns he skips.
- Chance to skip a spawn was about 50%, maybe a little higher.
- He spawns at the same spot and wanders back and forth across the island.
- He always drops the map piece and sometimes drops the claws.
- Not sure if he had variance or not, if he did it was very small. I would set alarms to check him and they were still very close even after multiple skips.

As for Lodizal, I don't remember the details, but he was much more common than Stormfeather. I killed him a bunch of times just because he was up while I was trying for the second map piece.


Definately this. That's probably why so many people remember him as 36 hours, because he would very frequently skip spawns. However I think he was around ~18 hours with a strong chance to skip.

[timhutton]

Ehhh I recall seeing him more than 36 hr spawn would allow...

I thought he had cougar placeholders or something?

Stormfeather doesn't have a PH.

[webrunner5]

Definately this. That's probably why so many people remember him as 36 hours, because he would very frequently skip spawns. However I think he was around ~18 hours with a strong chance to skip.

No way it was 18 hours.

[timhutton]

Here's a pretty old post from 2002 that seems to match exactly what I recall for lodi/stormfeather spawn times and habits:



http://old.tuatha.cc/topic.asp?topic_id=2837&forum_id=33&Topic_Title=Eyepatch+of+Plunder&forum_title=Quests%20and%20Such&M=&LastRead=11/6/2009%206:33:48%20PM&AID=569&ACT=cairbre&TD=&IP=65.42.189.94&MID=GO5UCEI4lxUo9ohK&SK=26hYp2cvOSL43T9n&LI=1&MP=15&TZ=-5&ON=0&PA=000

Lodi is on a ~11h 50m timer (last known death was at 9:45PM EST Sunday the 22nd) and is highly contested and is concidered a KS mob (meaning whom ever kills first gets loot, no matter who engaged first). Lodi is doable with 1 50-55+ group, but the more people, the better.

Stormfeather (A.K.A. SF), is the bottleneck for this quest. You can find his spawn point at loc +5790, +708 (near the 3 card playing Gnomes), is on a ~19h timer, and is known to skip spawn cycles (up to a reported 52 hour maximum). He will not be up when servers come back up, but will be there 19 hours later. SF is almost always camped by 2-3 people, so be ready to go all out and hope for the best. Last known time of death was at 5:45PM EST on Friday the 20th.

Here's another source, about 6 months older that has matching spawn times for SF:
http://www.showeq.net/forums/showthread.php?1211-Stormfeather-theories

18 hour cycle, has a chance to skip. I found out the approximate time the server came up, then just made sure to sit in the zone 15 minutes before every multiple of 18 hours to 15 mins after every multiple.

I got Stormfeather three days after the server came up, with about 2 hours total camping time invested.

[koros]

52 hours max corresponds very well to that 17.5 hour/10500 ticks with up to 2 skips. It's probably something along the lines of 66% chance first spawn, 66% chance second, 100% third, or maybe 50%, 75%, 100%. Velious had a propensity to do spawns like that.

[HallygukRZ]

I also remember soloing Lodi as a 60 shaman with malo and torpor.
Shame I lost all my old eq screenshots or I could have contributed more :/

[Zapatos]

5. Corudoth: Was this turtle in at original Velious launch?


I can't find info on the first week of velious, but by the second week the answer is yes!

http://web.archive.org/web/20030506000058/http://www.everlore.com/bestiary/beastdetails.asp?mode=show&BID=298461&pg=1&sortby=1

"Submited by: Sliguy On: 12/13/2000 8:57:08 PM
Well we just droppedthis puppy and all he had was an artic scallop, Tuft of Dire Wolf Hair, Vegetables and rabbit meat. He has about 30k to 40k hp on Prexus server. dunno about other servers... i think we were the first to take him down... Screen Shots to follow

Sliguy
Druid 43rd season
Prexus Server"

[Gaffin Deeppockets]

lodizal always been 12 hrs had that sexy turtle on farm for a while

[Gaffin Deeppockets]

I also remember soloing Lodi as a 60 shaman with malo and torpor.
Shame I lost all my old eq screenshots or I could have contributed more :/

Yeah it may be possible, its just a long annoying fight while he chain summons you. He dont hit like a wuss. Double 200's irc? maybe single

[Gaffin Deeppockets]

No way it was 18 hours.

it was 18 with a delay if 36 iirc if he doesnt pop, happened to me and fell asleep, woke up with him on me at like 35 %. got the eyepatch though.

[Swifty]

I recall classic Lozdizal to con Green, to a level 50.

[Galelor]

Had Lodi on lockdown for a few months. Never saw a 'skipped' spawn, and never saw any variance on the spawn time. I literally set my alarm clock to it his spawn time. I would sometimes see two map pieces, but not always.

[koros]

I recall classic Lozdizal to con Green, to a level 50.

Lodi was 60, you're remembering the other smaller turtle.

[nilbog]

At least 6 spawns that I know of (offland glaciers x2, gnoll lillypad x2, near port in, next to the fireplace in the gnome camp)

Can't speak for the respawn time, but it seemed common enough to not be a long one, I'd see the port one up really often porting in, and I'd always pick it up hoping it was another ground spawn, can't recall which now, snow griffon egg maybe?

So on a server up.. I'll have them in many places.

How many total plankings should be possible?
How long after being picked up should they respawn?

[Gaffin 3.0]

6 planks 8 hrs

[San]

Off topic sorry, but Gaffin who is in that gif?

[Gaffin 3.0]

charlie sweets

[Argh]

Both Lodi and SF could skip spawns

[heazels]

Lody always drops 1 map piece n 1 shield

then 2 other random items + 2 lvl 60 Velious spells

not sure if he could drop two shields at a time or what, i think he could

Yes he could drop 2 shells rarely and 1 map piece always. 1 Shell always. You didnt need a tracker for him if you sat on the 5 ice plops he would attack you on spawn. I don't remember him having a variance or skipping spawns either. I remember it being exactly 12 hrs and I would always get him in off hours bc he was overcamped during day time spawns. Spell drops were pretty rare but I remember them only being velious era spells, like 55-. If you wanted 60 spells you had to camp dragons in WW pretty much. I remember duoing him with a rogue/cleric combo. He was super easy. I don't even think the rogue was lvl 60.

[maximum]

So on a server up.. I'll have them in many places.

How many total plankings should be possible?
How long after being picked up should they respawn?

Bump. Do some research (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5570) while you wait to be unbanned from raiding!