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[cory17]

i have heard so many things about what lvls are hell lvls. can any one confirm as of 8/20/13 the list of p199 hell LVLS thx :)

[Gweed]

30/35/40/45/54/59

[cory17]

thx

[SamwiseRed]

lvl 3 is the unspoken hell level

[Leddy]

Level 3-4 is pretty awful on non pl'd Shammies and Druids too.

[MaksimMazor]

Also 51

[Tecmos Deception]

30/35/40/45/54/59

54 and 59 are double hell levels. The other 51+ (except 60) are also hell levels in the same way as 30, 35, etc.

[Estu]

3 and 4 are informally called hell levels sometimes just because they can be painful on some classes, not because you actually need to kill more monsters to level.

The wiki has a definitive guide on hell levels, but basically, to reiterate and expand on what Tecmos said:
30, 35, 40, and 45 require you to kill approximately twice as many monsters to level as other levels. Also, on the level after a hell level, you will lose approximately twice as much EXP on death (not viewed as a number, but viewed as % to level up, i.e. the yellow bar) as other levels. Also, after a hell level, your overall leveling speed will slow a little. (This is actually the point of them: to increase how many monsters you have to kill per level. But the original EQ devs were bad at math and made it so that you actually have to kill a ton more monsters when that transition happens (the hell levels) in addition to having to kill a few more from then on.)

Then, levels 51+ are all hell levels, but 54 and 59 are double hell levels (it'll take you roughly twice as many monster kills at 51 as at 50 to level up, and roughly twice as many at 54 or 59 than at the previous levels). For simplicity people usually just say that 54 and 59 are hell levels, it being understood that 51+ is much slower in general.

[Lanzellot]

lvl 3 is the unspoken hell level

the first noob filter :D

[Wotsirb401]

Lol level 3 =) i went from 1-16 in an hour on most of my characters.

[Auchae]

Level 3.. The biggest pain in the ass in the life of a mage.

[Tecmos Deception]

Level 3.. The biggest pain in the ass in the life of a mage.

This!

Why in the world enchanters and necros get level 1 pets but mages don't is one of the things about original EQ that really truly boggles my mind. At least xp penalties and most class balance issues seemed reasonable during development. But THE pet class of the game with NO pet? Lol.

[Estu]

This!

Why in the world enchanters and necros get level 1 pets but mages don't is one of the things about original EQ that really truly boggles my mind. At least xp penalties and most class balance issues seemed reasonable during development. But THE pet class of the game with NO pet? Lol.

It just makes you appreciate your pet more once you do get it =p

[Examino]

Lol level 3 =) i went from 1-16 in an hour on most of my characters.

want a cookie?

besides, no way you did that without Pling/turn ins

[heals4reals]

I reroll everytime I hit 3

[Masq]

Lol level 3 =) i went from 1-16 in an hour on most of my characters.

Think it took me several hours to hit 4 on my human warrior ;p

[idontbuff]

Lol level 3 =) i went from 1-16 in an hour on most of my characters.

full of shit, or pl'd. One of the two.

[Orruar]

4/8/15/16/23/42

[Sirken]

The wiki has a definitive guide on hell levels, but basically, to reiterate and expand on what Tecmos said:
30, 35, 40, and 45 require you to kill approximately twice as many monsters to level as other levels. Also, on the level after a hell level, you will lose approximately twice as much EXP on death (not viewed as a number, but viewed as % to level up, i.e. the yellow bar) as other levels. Also, after a hell level, your overall leveling speed will slow a little. (This is actually the point of them: to increase how many monsters you have to kill per level. But the original EQ devs were bad at math and made it so that you actually have to kill a ton more monsters when that transition happens (the hell levels) in addition to having to kill a few more from then on.)

Then, levels 51+ are all hell levels, but 54 and 59 are double hell levels (it'll take you roughly twice as many monster kills at 51 as at 50 to level up, and roughly twice as many at 54 or 59 than at the previous levels). For simplicity people usually just say that 54 and 59 are hell levels, it being understood that 51+ is much slower in general.

this ^

[webrunner5]

Gosh, remember when Nilbog hammered all those people that got caught cheating? He deleveled them down to 54 1/2 which was like losing 90% of their total XP. It is scary how many mobs you have to kill to get from level 50 to level 60. And just think if you are a Troll or Iksar SK with a 68% penalty. :eek:

[Weekapaug]

This!

Why in the world enchanters and necros get level 1 pets but mages don't is one of the things about original EQ that really truly boggles my mind. At least xp penalties and most class balance issues seemed reasonable during development. But THE pet class of the game with NO pet? Lol.

I actually just started an enchanter yesterday, completely untwinked, no PL....Had a pet but not like it did anything....whiff whiff whiff on decayed skelly's. Meanwhile you have one spell that does damage and it barely does anything.

Cracked staff FTW!

It occurred to me how the first 4 levels resembles absoultely nothing of what most classes will be doing for the rest of the game.

[papercolor]

I actually just started an enchanter yesterday, completely untwinked, no PL....Had a pet but not like it did anything....whiff whiff whiff on decayed skelly's. Meanwhile you have one spell that does damage and it barely does anything.

Cracked staff FTW!

It occurred to me how the first 4 levels resembles absoultely nothing of what most classes will be doing for the rest of the game.

Great thing about this game...its hard and you start with nothing.

[Reapin]

If you are a Halfling, the only hell levels you have are 54/ 59