Is it possible to get my non-gamer girlfriend into EQ?

[Zeonick]

Hey everybody. Well I finally convinced my non-gamer girlfriend to give EQ a try, and I really hope she likes it. The only other game she has ever really played was Skyrim, and she says she likes how pretty it was and that you could make potions.

I'm pretty stoked that I got her to try EQ but i'm worried that she will give up once things get a little rough. Right now I pretty much have to sit with her when we play and tell her what to do, and she seemed to like it so far. She made a human monk which seems like a good first class to me.

I was really interested in seeing if anyone has been in a similar situation or if there is some general advice out there for making her experience more enjoyable. I don't really have much in the way of gearing her, and I was fearing that being so weak and vulnerable at first would deter her, but she seemed ok with beating on bats and skeles for awhile :)

Let me know what I can do to make sure she keeps playing! Once our ip exemption goes through we can play together. What class should I make with her? I know shaman is an obvious choice but my main is already a shaman so id rather play something else while we get to his level.

Thanks!

[Zyn]

Interesting that you had her roll a monk. I feel like monks, along with most melee, are pretty gear dependent.

I remember trying to get my sister to play and she started a druid. Druid is a great class because it gives her a little bit of everything and this provides for unique playstyles:

If she feels like healing, she can heal
If she feels like DPSing, she can DPS
If she feels like helping players, she can buff and port

Druid, in my opinion, is the ideal starting class for her.

If that works, as her boyfriend, you should be her tank! Roll a Paladin or an SK. Then you can protect her. (Girls love that stuff).

Hope this helps.

[Stinkum]

The question is: Why would you want to?

[Zyn]

The question is: Why would you want to?

Lol this isn't descriptive at all. Why would you want to get her to play? Why should she roll a druid?

I is confuzzled.

[khanable]

Anything is possible with enough duct tape

[Zeonick]

I totally tried to get her to play a druid! When I was describing all the classes I put a lot of emphasis on the druid. But after describing everything she wanted to play the monk. And yeah they are gear dependent, but someone already gave her a fine steel wep and with dual wield she is tearing through the low lvl mobs heh.

Also, if she isn't feeling the monk later on she can always go ahead and try something else. Being under geared isn't terrible, we will just hopefully stick it out and do it together.

[Borador]

Depends on the type of girl. If she is a stereotypical girl then I'd suggest she play a cleric. She will feel needed, helpful, and be able to talk. You play a warrior and be the big strong man that protects her. If she is the pants wearing type than something like a monk is good, but if she sucks she will drop the game fast.

[Zeonick]

The question is: Why would you want to?


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[Zeonick]

Depends on the type of girl. If she is a stereotypical girl then I'd suggest she play a cleric. She will feel needed, helpful, and be able to talk. You play a warrior and be the big strong man that protects her. If she is the pants wearing type than something like a monk is good, but if she sucks she will drop the game fast.

I would say she is the pants wearing type. Very independent, outgoing and out spoken. I didn't think she would want to jus sit back and heal and not really DO a whole lot in groups and what not. I think she wants to do the damage and kill the mobs, but we will see.

[Zyn]

Ah yea, ultimately she should play what she wants. I feel like she'll get tired of Monk quickly. What level is she?

Another good one is Magician. I got my sister to play Magician too. Having pets and nuking is always fun. It also allowed her to be adventurous and kill stuff on her own if she was feeling it.

If your GF decides to settle on monk, Shaman really would be the ideal partner... but as you stated, your main is a Shaman.

Would you guys be planning to duo most of your levels? If so, I'd suggest one of the other priest classes, probably druid for yourself. The porting is awesome for helping expose her to all the zones and fun areas.

If you're not duoing, then enchanter may be nice. However, Enchanters are the most gear dependent of all the INT classes. Maybe necro? You guys could do some solid fear-kiting later on.

[Swish]

Start up as a duo on red, if she can handle that... she can handle any game you can throw at her :p

[Zeonick]

Haha she doesn't want other people to attack her because she barely knows the basics of the game. She kept asking all worried if people could attack her.

So far she was digging the monk, she liked being able to dual wield and kick stuff, haha. But she only got to level 2 (and a half) so really just barely ventured out of WFP and got her first sash.

We will be duoing pretty much all of the time. She says she wouldn't be comfortable grouping at the moment because she doesnt want people to get mad at her for sucking, heh. I was thinking I may have to play a priest class. Cleric really doesn't interest me and I dont think it brings much to the table besides heals. Maybe druid is the way to go.

It will be my first time playing a druid though, anyone have tips for me? Once we hit around lvl 20 I will probably switch back to my shaman full time, unless I fall in love with the druid!

[Growlers]

Kite things, hit the mob with snare and flame lick (flame lick is great agro) and have her dps.

[Zeonick]

Kite things, hit the mob with snare and flame lick (flame lick is great agro) and have her dps.

That sounds like a solid plan!

[Zyn]

Why would he want to hold aggro as the druid? She will be the one tanking as the monk.

Flame lick is amazing for aggro, but rangers should be using it, not druids.

I mained a druid on live, and let me tell you, they are super easy to fall in love with. As I mentioned earlier, they can fulfill a lot of roles. They don't really drop off until later in the game, hence why there are so few 60 druids. Ports are amazing, and they have surprisingly good DPS.

It almost makes me want to restart my druid on P99. I have serious altitis.

If you love priest classes, go with the druid. If you want to switch it up, since you already have a Shaman, I'd say a necro would work well for your duo. You can heal, DPS, fear-kite, etc. etc.

[Lyra]

14 years ago, my boyfriend at the time asked me to play Everquest with him. I love games, but had not played many video games. He had already been playing Everquest, but started over on a new server with me. When he described the classes, bard jumped out at me because of the musical aspect. Two weeks later, I switched to cleric. The bard was not a good first class. He leveled a warrior with my cleric until 14, but he got tired of holding my hand and started leveling on his own.

I kept playing, but I'm pretty sure I am a minority. I've had plenty of friends try to get their girlfriends to play, and it doesn't stick. I was attracted to the social aspect as well as the goal orientated gaming aspect. I like meeting new people, and learning about where they live and what they do. I like having small goals within the larger max level goal. One of my first goals here was to obtain the Shiny Brass Shield. Fairly simple goal, but kept me focused until obtained. A recent goal was to obtain the Goblin Gazughi Ring, which I did.

I think one of the things that kept me playing after my boyfriend gave up on me is a 15 year old boy I met in butcher block. He was very patient with me and became my EQ friend. He was such a brat, but I grew to love him (in a platonic way). I found him here a few weeks ago and he's still a brat and I still love him.

I played EQ for 6 years, long after my X-boyfriend played. I always play healers, but I have enjoyed a rogue to mid 50's and recently a charming druid to 50.

I wish you luck, but I doubt you have much control over the outcome.

[Estu]

Why would he want to hold aggro as the druid? She will be the one tanking as the monk.

Flame lick is amazing for aggro, but rangers should be using it, not druids.

If you can choose between the monk taking damage or no one taking damage because the druid is snare kiting while the monk beats on the monster, why would you have the monk take damage???

[Zyn]

14 years ago, my boyfriend at the time asked me to play Everquest with him. I love games, but had not played many video games. He had already been playing Everquest, but started over on a new server with me. When he described the classes, bard jumped out at me because of the musical aspect. Two weeks later, I switched to cleric. The bard was not a good first class. He leveled a warrior with my cleric until 14, but he got tired of holding my hand and started leveling on his own.

I kept playing, but I'm pretty sure I am a minority. I've had plenty of friends try to get their girlfriends to play, and it doesn't stick. I was attracted to the social aspect as well as the goal orientated gaming aspect. I like meeting new people, and learning about where they live and what they do. I like having small goals within the larger max level goal. One of my first goals here was to obtain the Shiny Brass Shield. Fairly simple goal, but kept me focused until obtained. A recent goal was to obtain the Goblin Gazughi Ring, which I did.

I think one of the things that kept me playing after my boyfriend gave up on me is a 15 year old boy I met in butcher block. He was very patient with me and became my EQ friend. He was such a brat, but I grew to love him (in a platonic way). I found him here a few weeks ago and he's still a brat and I still love him.

I played EQ for 6 years, long after my X-boyfriend played. I always play healers, but I have enjoyed a rogue to mid 50's and recently a charming druid to 50.

I wish you luck, but I doubt you have much control over the outcome.

This story makes me really happy.

Can we be friends?

[Victorio]

I got my girlfriend to play EQ because I was away from her for 3 months (although the longest we went without seeing each other was 6 weeks). She loved talking to me on teamspeak. I made us both mages since we could duo very well with our two pets and nukes, she likes having a pet. Unfortunately she likes to play in bed on her small laptop so she doesn't use a mouse. Luckily she can use assist hotkeys. She's gotten more into it since then, she likes the challenge.

Anyway the point is that she'll start playing as a way to get more interaction with you (Teamspeak/Ventrilo helps a lot in this regard.) After that you don't really know if she'll get into it or not. I wish you the best of luck!

[Ciel]

No.

[timhutton]

I tried to get my gf into it. We killed mobs outside the West Freeport gates for about an hour and a half and got to around level 5 at which point she proclaimed "I do not enjoy killing bats for this long" and logged off never to be seen in the world of Norrath again.

Do not make the same mistakes I did.

[Jetlag]

Zeonick, I was compelled to sign in to share my experience.

EQ is a tough game for even "seasoned" gamers by today's standards, much less for a non-gaming girlfriend. The gameplay is not intuitive and feels more like a text-based game accompanied by clumsy graphics. If you have played before, you know what to expect, but she does not.

Judging that you are level 23 and joined in July, you seem active. I was in a similar situation, gave her options and she chose human monk. We wasted 3 weeks getting to 32 as barbarian shaman & human monk before she said she had enough. She stated she would continue playing, but rather spend her time on something else. I could not agree with her more. We both abandoned our characters for 3 months. At first, it was exciting because she would get new abilities and we were saving up plat to purchase her first a Trance Stick, then a Quivering Staff. She enjoyed FD pulling. After 30, flying kick, and the dmg cap coming off...she did not have much to look forward to other than riposte & equipment upgrades (we couldn't afford the shiny stuff, so no real upgrades). Perhaps your experience will be different, but here are two observations.

Disclaimer: I'm a min/maxer and that kills fun for other types of players unless they too are min/maxers, so that was a contributing factor to us ruining it for each other.

1) Time-intensive. Things really start slowing down when the excitement/nostalgia fade and you have better alternative activities rather than a video game that sucks time into a blackhole because of its inherently slow nature. (6 second pulses, xp loss on death, class/race xp penalties) Nothing worse than setting aside 8 hours of free time that she could be watching her favorite show, going to the yoga studio, or surfing..but instead committed to grinding through some levels....only to gain 1 level because of travel time, multiple deaths/CRs, etc.

2) Repetitive gameplay. Having played before, I knew what to expect. But she quickly grew tired of chasing after runners in tight corridors. (If I rooted, she would take extra unnecessary dmg slowing our efficiency)


All I can say is, I wish you the best of luck and hope you two have fun!

[timhutton]

It's worth noting that whenever I am playing EverQuest or mention wanting to play EverQuest it is still referred to by her as "killing bats".

To be quite honest I'm not sure concepts such as "grinding" are understood and interpretted as fun by a normal member of the non-gaming community.

Best of luck though.

[Lyra]

Can we be friends?

Absolutely!

[Zeonick]

Wow thanks for the replies everyone! I feel like I can definitely learned from your experiences. I usually try to be somewhat of a min/maxer myself but I know this will never work with her. I will just try to keep it light and fun.

The fact that your gf still describes it as "killing bats" is hilarious, that made me laugh out loud because I can see the same thing happening. Right now she is on the goal of saving up bone chips to sell in EC, and she seems excited at the idea of getting a full stack and making some cash.

I am fairly active, but I should also mention we have a little girl together, and live together. So we will only really be playing at night together after the little one is asleep. I try to play as much as I can but it's usually only an hour a night, sometimes more. I was just hoping that grouping together and working towards goals together in something we can both enjoy may make us closer as we have a lot of stress in our lives at the moment. Here's hoping!

[Zyn]

Zeonick, I was compelled to sign in to share my experience.

EQ is a tough game for even "seasoned" gamers by today's standards, much less for a non-gaming girlfriend. The gameplay is not intuitive and feels more like a text-based game accompanied by clumsy graphics. If you have played before, you know what to expect, but she does not.

Judging that you are level 23 and joined in July, you seem active. I was in a similar situation, gave her options and she chose human monk. We wasted 3 weeks getting to 32 as barbarian shaman & human monk before she said she had enough. She stated she would continue playing, but rather spend her time on something else. I could not agree with her more. We both abandoned our characters for 3 months. At first, it was exciting because she would get new abilities and we were saving up plat to purchase her first a Trance Stick, then a Quivering Staff. She enjoyed FD pulling. After 30, flying kick, and the dmg cap coming off...she did not have much to look forward to other than riposte & equipment upgrades (we couldn't afford the shiny stuff, so no real upgrades). Perhaps your experience will be different, but here are two observations.

Disclaimer: I'm a min/maxer and that kills fun for other types of players unless they too are min/maxers, so that was a contributing factor to us ruining it for each other.

1) Time-intensive. Things really start slowing down when the excitement/nostalgia fade and you have better alternative activities rather than a video game that sucks time into a blackhole because of its inherently slow nature. (6 second pulses, xp loss on death, class/race xp penalties) Nothing worse than setting aside 8 hours of free time that she could be watching her favorite show, going to the yoga studio, or surfing..but instead committed to grinding through some levels....only to gain 1 level because of travel time, multiple deaths/CRs, etc.

2) Repetitive gameplay. Having played before, I knew what to expect. But she quickly grew tired of chasing after runners in tight corridors. (If I rooted, she would take extra unnecessary dmg slowing our efficiency)


All I can say is, I wish you the best of luck and hope you two have fun!

Wow interesting story.

I think the min-maxing may contribute to some constraints while playing. Again, I think a lot of it has to do with being a monk. As a caster in this game (WIS or INT), there is always new things to look forward with spells every few levels. That's why my first main on live was a Druid, then when I could afford to twink out a monk, I had a blast doubling the DPS of anyone else in my group (and I knew how to appreciate it)

All this being said, every girl/player is different. Ultimately she's going to like the game or not, there's only so much you can do to improve the experience.

[Zyn]

Absolutely!

are you Lyra in game?

[Zyn]

Wow thanks for the replies everyone! I feel like I can definitely learned from your experiences. I usually try to be somewhat of a min/maxer myself but I know this will never work with her. I will just try to keep it light and fun.

The fact that your gf still describes it as "killing bats" is hilarious, that made me laugh out loud because I can see the same thing happening. Right now she is on the goal of saving up bone chips to sell in EC, and she seems excited at the idea of getting a full stack and making some cash.

I am fairly active, but I should also mention we have a little girl together, and live together. So we will only really be playing at night together after the little one is asleep. I try to play as much as I can but it's usually only an hour a night, sometimes more. I was just hoping that grouping together and working towards goals together in something we can both enjoy may make us closer as we have a lot of stress in our lives at the moment. Here's hoping!

Keep us updated, if that's not creepy (not intended to be)

would love to hear how it's going for you two!

[Zeonick]

I was partly thinking with a caster too that spell crafting/questing for spells and what not may make her a little frustrated? I dunno, just as a new gamer it may seem like a lot to get your new shiny spells.

[Wotsirb401]

Hey everybody. Well I finally convinced my non-gamer girlfriend to give EQ a try, and I really hope she likes it. The only other game she has ever really played was Skyrim, and she says she likes how pretty it was and that you could make potions.

I'm pretty stoked that I got her to try EQ but i'm worried that she will give up once things get a little rough. Right now I pretty much have to sit with her when we play and tell her what to do, and she seemed to like it so far. She made a human monk which seems like a good first class to me.

I was really interested in seeing if anyone has been in a similar situation or if there is some general advice out there for making her experience more enjoyable. I don't really have much in the way of gearing her, and I was fearing that being so weak and vulnerable at first would deter her, but she seemed ok with beating on bats and skeles for awhile :)

Make her your potion W3ore! lol lucky

Let me know what I can do to make sure she keeps playing! Once our ip exemption goes through we can play together. What class should I make with her? I know shaman is an obvious choice but my main is already a shaman so id rather play something else while we get to his level.

Thanks!

[Wotsirb401]

Studies have shown. aka my studies with all my gaming experience that girls enjoy and stick with support classes. I would think like Cleric/Dru/ ench would suit her better . But that is up to her!
My girlfriend just calls it " your game" . She says you going to play your game? I am like yep, but over time she seems more interested. Watching our raids and watching me kill innocent animals , she loves that lol

[Nirgon]

Get her to play Skyrim or something.

EQ is not the way to go here.

Unless you can get her chatting with people. The dungeon pixels with chat room is appealing to all who give it a chance.

[Zyn]

I was partly thinking with a caster too that spell crafting/questing for spells and what not may make her a little frustrated? I dunno, just as a new gamer it may seem like a lot to get your new shiny spells.

Just grind in zones that drop words, should help a lot. Unrest drops a bunch, giants in Warslik Woods

By the time she actually needs to research/buy spells, she'll either love or hate the class. If she hates it, then buying/researching won't matter. If she loves it, then it'll be worth the extra effort.

[Trojanman]

There is NO WAY you are going to get your non-gamer girlfriend into EQ. Sorry, its not possible.

[Zyn]

There is NO WAY you are going to get your non-gamer girlfriend into EQ. Sorry, its not possible.

Have faith!

[Zeonick]

Get her to play Skyrim or something.

EQ is not the way to go here.

Unless you can get her chatting with people. The dungeon pixels with chat room is appealing to all who give it a chance.

She plays skyrim, was in the original post :)

[Zeonick]

I will keep you guys updated on how it goes. I think when I get this IP exemption things will go a lot better for us. Instead of me barking orders at her we can actually play together :) I hope it comes quickly!

[Roku]

She says she wouldn't be comfortable grouping at the moment because she doesnt want people to get mad at her for sucking, heh. !

Until she gets FD and starts FD pulling, there is no real way she can suck in a group. So now may be the ideal time to start grouping and getting use to the best aspect of EQ. Besides, she's much more likely to stay if she makes other friends in game.

My 2cp. Good luck either way.

[Zeonick]

Until she gets FD and starts FD pulling, there is no real way she can suck in a group. So now may be the ideal time to start grouping and getting use to the best aspect of EQ. Besides, she's much more likely to stay if she makes other friends in game.

My 2cp. Good luck either way.

She did meet a couple people last night, and was really into talking to people which I saw as a sign of hope. She went to the EC tunnel and starting talking/dancing with random people before she logged. Heh.

[Strifer]

Be careful, as this may happen:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_li17ioYFNo1qhi6neo1_500.jpg

[Zeonick]

Be careful, as this may happen:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_li17ioYFNo1qhi6neo1_500.jpg

That is fucking weird. My gf replied with "you can sleep with people in this game?"

[Strifer]

That is fucking weird. My gf replied with "you can sleep with people in this game?"

No I know, it was meant as a joke. In all seriousness though...I know many years ago when I got my sister into the game she absolutely adored playing a cleric, although she absolutely insisted on wearing cloth armor instead of the bronze I got her to start out stating that "it looks prettier". All in all though she ended up raiding PoTime a ton and was in one of 7th Hammers best guilds when she got the hang of it.

[skipdog]

I'd love to hear some more success stories on how people introduced their GF to the game. My GF loves console RPGs but hasn't really played any game with a keyboard/mouse before. Any advice on how to make her first experience with the game enjoyable?

[Zeonick]

I'd love to hear some more success stories on how people introduced their GF to the game. My GF loves console RPGs but hasn't really played any game with a keyboard/mouse before. Any advice on how to make her first experience with the game enjoyable?

Read the posts in this thread.....? That was my exact question in the OP.....

[Zyn]

Until she gets FD and starts FD pulling, there is no real way she can suck in a group. So now may be the ideal time to start grouping and getting use to the best aspect of EQ. Besides, she's much more likely to stay if she makes other friends in game.

My 2cp. Good luck either way.

Are you Roku from LOL?

[Zyn]

No I know, it was meant as a joke. In all seriousness though...I know many years ago when I got my sister into the game she absolutely adored playing a cleric, although she absolutely insisted on wearing cloth armor instead of the bronze I got her to start out stating that "it looks prettier". All in all though she ended up raiding PoTime a ton and was in one of 7th Hammers best guilds when she got the hang of it.

Wow! That's awesome and super cool.

Jealous, I could only get my sister to get to about level 6.

[Swish]

My brother barely made it from Kaladim to Kelethin on his dwarf paladin before throwing in the towel back in 2000 :D

To this day he refuses to play a game that doesn't have an ending... and I can see where he's coming from :p

[Zeonick]

My brother barely made it from Kaladim to Kelethin on his dwarf paladin before throwing in the towel back in 2000 :D

To this day he refuses to play a game that doesn't have an ending... and I can see where he's coming from :p

It can get very frustrating especially when you die early on. I'm hoping with me there coaching us we can avoid lots of deaths.

[skipdog]

Read the posts in this thread.....? That was my exact question in the OP.....

Relax man.. I'm just reiterating my support of your original post. You didn't ask for success stories, I did. You didn't ask how to get your girlfriend to enjoy playing EQ for the first time... she's already started playing. You wanted advice on how to keep her playing.

I can't believe how touchy people are here. Here I am, expressing the same general ideas as the OP with some slightly different questions and he attacks me. Wow haha

[Snizatcher]

The WiFi reception in my kitchen is terrible.. This would never work.

[Jetlag]

Remember Non-Gamers are that way because their brains are wired differently. They don't perceive the rewards of playing games and therefore don't pursue that activity in the first place.

It's not a stretch to assume she has started playing EQ to spend time with you and to take interest in something YOU like. Always remember that although she may enjoy it, it doesn't mean you don't owe her. I am sure you know, but this is a friendly reminder.

[Zeonick]

Relax man.. I'm just reiterating my support of your original post. You didn't ask for success stories, I did. You didn't ask how to get your girlfriend to enjoy playing EQ for the first time... she's already started playing. You wanted advice on how to keep her playing.

I can't believe how touchy people are here. Here I am, expressing the same general ideas as the OP with some slightly different questions and he attacks me. Wow haha

I'm not attacking you man. Sorry it came off that way. I just thought that you didn't read the original post based on what you were asking. She only played EQ for about 15 minutes, so our questions are basically the same heh.

She became "interested" mainly by my constantly bugging her to try it out. I think shes just giving it a try to see if she likes it and make me happy at the same time.

[Bantam 1]

I'm not attacking you man. Sorry it came off that way. I just thought that you didn't read the original post based on what you were asking. She only played EQ for about 15 minutes, so our questions are basically the same heh.

She became "interested" mainly by my constantly bugging her to try it out. I think shes just giving it a try to see if she likes it and make me happy at the same time.

It's not worth it... trust me on this.

[Zeonick]

It's not worth it... trust me on this.

What do you mean heh? One thing is... I barely get to play because she doesn't understand video games and why I want to play them. I feel like if she were alittle more interested I would get to play some more.. Selfish I know.

[Trelaboon]

I've been in the same boat as you i'm afraid. I managed to get her into WoW at one point and she loved it. Once we quit that and this server opened, I tried to get her into the game so bad...we had tons of fun gaming together...but I swear, playing WoW made her retarded. She can barely make it out of her starting city and I feel like I have to hold her hand the entire time...it's awful. I really really wish she could just enjoy it with me, but I feel like it will probably never happen.

Also, Monk is semi gear dependent, but they can get Wu's Trance Sticks and Wu's Quivering Staff for almost nothing, and that's really all that matters right away.

[Bantam 1]

What do you mean heh? One thing is... I barely get to play because she doesn't understand video games and why I want to play them. I feel like if she were alittle more interested I would get to play some more.. Selfish I know.

She just has to understand it's your hobby.... trying to get her to play will just lead to trouble.

[Roku]

Are you Roku from LOL?

Nope. Roku was the name of my warrior on Terris-Thule from 2000 to about 2004. Someone else has the name on p99 though :( Maybe that is the person you seek.

[Lyra]

I tend to have a gaming partner. My longest gaming partner was a man named Brent. I called him Cy. We met in EQ when he was in the Airforce stationed in Guam. He was married at the time, but no children. He worked 3 on, 3 off, 4 on, 4 off. He worked 3rd shift, so on his off days he needed to keep the same sleeping schedule. This corresponded to my game time. His wife was sleeping, and he and I were playing EQ. (I know it sounds like cheating, but we were really only playing video games). This was great for several years.

After the birth of his first child, his wife started protesting his gaming more. He was able to negotiate game time in exchange for chores. After the second child, the chores increased. She knew how much he loved to game, and she got a lot of work out of him. He started gaming less. It wasn't worth the chores and the arguing. She had a third child and now he plays Facebook games. He loves his family and he made the right choice. I miss him.

[Zeonick]

She just has to understand it's your hobby.... trying to get her to play will just lead to trouble.

Yeah maybe. She usually despises when I play video games because she thinks it's me not wanting to spend time with her. But when she got into Skyrim she cooled down on that a ton. I think if we could play together she would really be in to it.

[August]

My wife played WoW from 2004-2010 with me. She is level 40 now on her shaman w/ my SK.

I can tell you that it's harder to adjust to the proverbial 'carrot' - WoW the rewards were very tangible and levels never take longer than an hour each unless you're in the current 'max level' content - then they take 2-3 hours.

We started out pretty well - leveling quickly (geared out, ofc). Then double XP came and while that was active we gunned from 30-40 pretty flawlessly and at the same pace as we had been.

Then the double XP went ou and now we're stuck in a hell level. I think she is just about ready to quit. 'We've been in level 40 forever I'm getting tired of this place'.

'The grind' as it were isn't something a WoW player, or really anyone who wasn't into EQ or MUD games, can really handle.

I recommend being altoholic and then if she finds a class she loves she will just LIKE to play it and want to continue. Not sure my wife really loves shaman - it's a very busy class.

[Visual]

I had to hide it from my ex for years. There was a part of me that was relieved when it came to an end, as I could finally unleash the nerd within.

I remember once I had my pupils dilated and I had to have her read my text. Explaining my way around "FEAR QUICK KILL CT" was not an easy task.

[SamwiseRed]

nope

[Reapin]

Just knock her up buddy, then she will be less likely to leave you for playing too much.

[Zeonick]

That's good advice - and something i'm ready to work with also. If she doesnt like her class and wants to try something else I will be all for it. May be worth doing the same with your wife if she really isn't into the shaman :/ Personally, I love being busy.

[Gadwen]

I got my now wife to start playing EQ back on live shortly after PoP came out, and before that the only game she knew how to play was Mario Kart. Wasn't a trick to it or anything, i said just make a character and play for a few minutes. She did and started to really enjoy it. We played here together for a while but this server doesn't hold her interest as well as Live did, I don't think she has logged in for several months now.

[Zeonick]

Just knock her up buddy, then she will be less likely to leave you for playing too much.

We have a one year old. That's why I only play at night. Thanks for all the interesting Stories guys! Keep them coming, there is something for me to learn from all of them.

[Ajkuhuun]

Studies have shown. aka my studies with all my gaming experience that girls enjoy and stick with support classes. I would think like Cleric/Dru/ ench would suit her better . But that is up to her!

As a girl gamer, we get pigeonholed into support a lot, or rather, girls as a whole. In live I played an Inkie warrior, was main tank for my guild, and rather enjoyed the leadership role the tank played, but it's true several girls seem to get stuck into support or roles of less importance.

It seems that a lot of girls get roped into support roles simply because their significant other wants them to play with them and is often a non support role to begin with, ie the guy is a warrior and wants a healer. The sad thing is when they can't break free of that and just don't have the confidence to break out of the stereotypical support role most people feel girls are "good at" or perhaps it would be better to say "doesn't suck at."

I would say don't coddle her, you are doing her a disservice. There's nothing I hate more than getting into a group with a "tee hee" girl whose only notable skill is that she has tits. Let her learn the game, help her to explore the things that interest her, but try not to feel as if you need to hover over her telling her exactly how to do each little thing, half the fun was learning right? It's like the old saying, give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he'll be making fishrolls in a week ;)

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Well Ajkuhunn, I havealways had the opposite problem. I've always played an enchanter in eq1 then eq2. Dark elves are kind of androgenous, but I can't count the number of times people assume I'm a "she" because I'm a support class.

But to be fair, I guess it didn't help I've always named myself Candelbright Rainbowstar.

yeah, just kidding on that last part. It's Sadre "Danger" Spinegnawer.

And anyway, as a girl gamer you gotta let it roll off ya. There are a lot of mongolians out there. Trust me, they find ways to be irritating if you are a guy player, too.

[Zeonick]

As a girl gamer, we get pigeonholed into support a lot, or rather, girls as a whole. In live I played an Inkie warrior, was main tank for my guild, and rather enjoyed the leadership role the tank played, but it's true several girls seem to get stuck into support or roles of less importance.

It seems that a lot of girls get roped into support roles simply because their significant other wants them to play with them and is often a non support role to begin with, ie the guy is a warrior and wants a healer. The sad thing is when they can't break free of that and just don't have the confidence to break out of the stereotypical support role most people feel girls are "good at" or perhaps it would be better to say "doesn't suck at."

I would say don't coddle her, you are doing her a disservice. There's nothing I hate more than getting into a group with a "tee hee" girl whose only notable skill is that she has tits. Let her learn the game, help her to explore the things that interest her, but try not to feel as if you need to hover over her telling her exactly how to do each little thing, half the fun was learning right? It's like the old saying, give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he'll be making fishrolls in a week ;)

You're right about girls often getting stuck with those types of classes. I don't mind playing support classes, they may not be the star of the show but they have so much utility which makes them fun.

I probably should "direct" less and just let her figure stuff out on her own. She did learn that a stack of bone chips sells for 5pp by talking to someone, and was pretty stoked about that :)

[Shugoran]

have her make a necro, bitches love pets.

[Ajkuhuun]

have her make a necro, bitches love pets.

It's true, I was a hunter in WoW, and I did love pets :P

[chtulu]

hit me up ajkuhuun, i got something for you.

[Zeonick]

Ive never played a necro though and honestly don't know much about them. But I feel like it could get complicated heh.

[Elamder]

The WiFi reception in my kitchen is terrible.. This would never work.

[Lyra]

but it's true several girls seem to get stuck into support or roles of less importance.

You and I are not going to be friends. In fact, be sure to give my your character name so my less importance self can let you die.

edit: Nevermind, found it

Server: Lanys T'Vyl
Classic: Arshiss Bladebringer (Dark Elf Warrior)
P99: Ajkuhuun
Forum: Ajkuhuun

[Auchae]

Didn't want to read all these posts, but intimidate is broken on red. Not sure how it is on blue, but any snare class with the monk will be the best. I soloed to 40 on monk on red in like 3 zones total.

[TAllen82]

Not that its super helpful to the conversation, but after trying forever to get my girlfriend into the game she finally gave in. Went through several characters, but was only really able to get into the Druid, so I would recommend it as well.....don't know what the difference is personally, I can't stand Druids, but they seem like a good starter class for newbies to the game.

[Auchae]

Not that its super helpful to the conversation, but after trying forever to get my girlfriend into the game she finally gave in. Went through several characters, but was only really able to get into the Druid, so I would recommend it as well.....don't know what the difference is personally, I can't stand Druids, but they seem like a good starter class for newbies to the game.

Classic EQ is built for the druid. Seems like it, anyway. I always hated them because of that.

[Roku]

Not that its super helpful to the conversation, but after trying forever to get my girlfriend into the game she finally gave in. Went through several characters, but was only really able to get into the Druid, so I would recommend it as well.....don't know what the difference is personally, I can't stand Druids, but they seem like a good starter class for newbies to the game.

Thank you for the sig quote!

[Zeonick]

You and I are not going to be friends. In fact, be sure to give my your character name so my less importance self can let you die.

edit: Nevermind, found it

Server: Lanys T'Vyl
Classic: Arshiss Bladebringer (Dark Elf Warrior)
P99: Ajkuhuun
Forum: Ajkuhuun

What did I miss?

[Lyra]

What did I miss?

Oh just this post of inaccurate generalizations about women by a person that claims to be a woman. "She" also claims a warrior has more importance than a healer. (Do you even go here?) She also played a HUNTER in WoW.....

Just wow.

As a girl gamer, we get pigeonholed into support a lot, or rather, girls as a whole. In live I played an Inkie warrior, was main tank for my guild, and rather enjoyed the leadership role the tank played, but it's true several girls seem to get stuck into support or roles of less importance.

It seems that a lot of girls get roped into support roles simply because their significant other wants them to play with them and is often a non support role to begin with, ie the guy is a warrior and wants a healer. The sad thing is when they can't break free of that and just don't have the confidence to break out of the stereotypical support role most people feel girls are "good at" or perhaps it would be better to say "doesn't suck at."

I would say don't coddle her, you are doing her a disservice. There's nothing I hate more than getting into a group with a "tee hee" girl whose only notable skill is that she has tits. Let her learn the game, help her to explore the things that interest her, but try not to feel as if you need to hover over her telling her exactly how to do each little thing, half the fun was learning right? It's like the old saying, give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day, teach a man to fish and he'll be making fishrolls in a week ;)

[Zeonick]

Oh just this post of inaccurate generalizations about women by a person that claims to be a woman. "She" also claims a warrior has more importance than a healer. (Do you even go here?) She also played a HUNTER in WoW.....

Just wow.

Seems to me like she was making generalizations about what OTHER people think of women in games. Hence the quotation marks around everything she was saying. I still feel like i'm missing something there, sorry :/

[Auchae]

Well in the ten seconds between hitting CH every couple of mins you can get quite a bit done in the kitchen.

[Lyra]

Well in the ten seconds between hitting CH every couple of mins you can get quite a bit done in the kitchen.

I realize this is one of those cute jokes, but if your cleric is only casting CH, you should probably find a new one.

If everyone is doing their job and my mana is sufficient, I am stunning casters, rooting with lack of snare (rarely have snare), and nuking if undead. While I don't get to pacify often when camp pulling, while moving to camp I do assist with pacify.

[Auchae]

I realize this is one of those cute jokes, but if your cleric is only casting CH, you should probably find a new one.

If everyone is doing their job and my mana is sufficient, I am stunning casters, rooting with lack of snare (rarely have snare), and nuking if undead. While I don't get to pacify often when camp pulling, while moving to camp I do assist with pacify.

Just a joke. I'm aware that clerics have multiple spells.

[Ajkuhuun]

You and I are not going to be friends. In fact, be sure to give my your character name so my less importance self can let you die.

Ok. I guess you missed the OR in my statement. Of course support is necessary and important, the OR in my statement was referring to how oftentimes girls aren't trusted with important jobs. So even as support, we often get the shaft as guys in those roles are given more important work to do...as support. But take it however you want, if it makes you feel any better after your post I wouldn't be friends with you either.

Secondly, yeah I did play a hunter in WoW, and a Warrior in EQ, you know what else I did at max level and raided with?

In EQ Cleric.

In WoW Priest, Warrior, Paladin.

All of these max level, all of them raiders. Sure I preferred my hunter, but just because most of the folks who play it are pure shit, no need to jump the gun and infer that because I enjoyed a hunter my opinion isn't valid. My pure disdain for girls in gaming who do nothing but help the stereotypes we've had to fight in gaming is honed from years and years of "Tee Hees," "I'm wearing it because it's pretty," and "I
m a girl can you say it slower and maybe add some pictures while explaining this raid boss," and of having to play my classes three times as well as my male counterparts.

As far as whether or not you think I'm a girl, well, I couldn't possibly care less. Ajkuhuun is even a male character just because I happen to like Iksar males more than females. I'm married and since I don't plan on fucking you, whether you think I'm a girl or not really doesn't matter, now does it?

[Laledorie]

We've gotten a bit off topic here and before we run any farther off the track, I would like to share my EQ story! When I was 14 I started dating a "nerdy" boy, he played video games and drug me around to meet his nerdy friends at their LAN parties. Personally I was not what you might call a gamer. I'd played a bit of Super Nintendo but didn't even own a computer. One day, not long into our relationship I saw him playing EQ and it looked cool but not like something that would interest me. I remember seeing his character running through Kunark with all kinds of weird looking stuff running around him. I watched him play for a long time that day... The next day he took me to a Gamestop and I bought my very own copy of Everquest. I nagged my mom for about a week and she was sweet enough to spend some of her hard earned money and buy my very first computer. I made an enchanter to start with but my main did end up being a Druid (which is also what I play on P99). I played EQ for many years and it's only led me to many other MMO's since then! What I'm trying to say is, you never know who might just one day turn into a gamer! Just give her a chance, don't pressure her, and be encouraging! That's really all you can do, the rest is up to her! ;-)

[Ajkuhuun]

You're right Laledorie we've strayed pretty far from the original topic here. That being said;

Just give her a chance, don't pressure her, and be encouraging!

She summed it up in one sweet sentence~

[Swish]

We've gotten a bit off topic here and before we run any farther off the track, I would like to share my EQ story! When I was 14 I started dating a "nerdy" boy, he played video games and drug me around to meet his nerdy friends at their LAN parties. Personally I was not what you might call a gamer. I'd played a bit of Super Nintendo but didn't even own a computer. One day, not long into our relationship I saw him playing EQ and it looked cool but not like something that would interest me. I remember seeing his character running through Kunark with all kinds of weird looking stuff running around him. I watched him play for a long time that day... The next day he took me to a Gamestop and I bought my very own copy of Everquest. I nagged my mom for about a week and she was sweet enough to spend some of her hard earned money and buy my very first computer. I made an enchanter to start with but my main did end up being a Druid (which is also what I play on P99). I played EQ for many years and it's only led me to many other MMO's since then! What I'm trying to say is, you never know who might just one day turn into a gamer! Just give her a chance, don't pressure her, and be encouraging! That's really all you can do, the rest is up to her! ;-)

Its amazing how easily the game drags you in. I had made a ton of friends across the pond in a couple of chat rooms, just talking about crap most of the time... thought it was really cool that you could type to people through chat rooms and ICQ.

Then I bought EverQuest one day... fair to say my chat room days were over fairly quickly :D

[Zeonick]

We've gotten a bit off topic here and before we run any farther off the track, I would like to share my EQ story! When I was 14 I started dating a "nerdy" boy, he played video games and drug me around to meet his nerdy friends at their LAN parties. Personally I was not what you might call a gamer. I'd played a bit of Super Nintendo but didn't even own a computer. One day, not long into our relationship I saw him playing EQ and it looked cool but not like something that would interest me. I remember seeing his character running through Kunark with all kinds of weird looking stuff running around him. I watched him play for a long time that day... The next day he took me to a Gamestop and I bought my very own copy of Everquest. I nagged my mom for about a week and she was sweet enough to spend some of her hard earned money and buy my very first computer. I made an enchanter to start with but my main did end up being a Druid (which is also what I play on P99). I played EQ for many years and it's only led me to many other MMO's since then! What I'm trying to say is, you never know who might just one day turn into a gamer! Just give her a chance, don't pressure her, and be encouraging! That's really all you can do, the rest is up to her! ;-)

Thanks for your story! :) There is lots of great advice in this thread for ANYONE trying to get someone into EQ. And that's such an important thing in this game, part of what makes it so great - playing with friends!

Let's not get off topic and all mad at each other, because I don't think anyone is purposefully trying to offend anyone else.

On second thought, drama always makes for a good thread so maybe we should get some cat fights going here :D

[Ajkuhuun]

On second thought, drama always makes for a good thread so maybe we should get some cat fights going here

Now all we need is jello~

In all seriousness though, even though my first post was taken wrong by one gal, and I apologize that she took what I said wrong, girl gamers have come a long way since I started playing in 1999, but some of the old stereotypes are still there which makes it a bit hard. I think part of that assuming a girl should be a support class mentality might stem from a nurturing nature...or something :P There's nothing wrong with being a support class, in fact the game couldn't function without them, however, there IS a problem with girls as a whole feeling as if a support class is their only option.

Even though the gaming community is less one sided than it used to be, ideas like girls are too emotional for leadership roles, or cause drama in guilds, or cyber fuck every guy in their guild, etc. are still very much a part of the gaming culture. Just like in real life, it takes time but after a while I think we'll see less one sided views on what a girl gamer is good at in a game, and what they might enjoy in a game. Hey nobody likes being stuck into a stereotype...even hunters from WoW ;)

My Everquest story is that my older brother and I sort of had a long standing trade war going on with Magic cards (I was 19 and he was in his late 20's so I know how sad it sounds) and at one point I owed him more than he owed me. My cousin and him had started playing EQ and he said he'd wipe my debt if I went and bought it, so I did. At the time I remember my cousin, who is a guy, telling me "Don't worry about buying Velious, you'll never get there anyway." An offhanded remark at the time, but as it happens out of all our real life friends I was the first to get to Velious, the first to raid, the one who carried them from epic to epic, the one who networked with the community so they could obtain those epics without being in a raid guild. I loved EQ, and got my first real taste of MMO's. It was a feeling I ended up carrying with me through SWG, EQ2, WoW, SWTOR...a plethora of other games, and I never quite got that same feeling until I rerolled here. The community is exactly what I fell in love with in EQ back when I started, the game is the same, and I think it's a great game to start off your girl on. It's not EZmode like WoW, and it's not so difficult that the learning curve is just too daunting to even want to catch up on.

I hope you guys enjoy your time here, I'm low level myself but if you need a hand in game, hit me up (my toon name is Ajkuhuun) or the hubby up (his toon name is Naena). Have fun!

[Roku]

I'm married and since I don't plan on fucking you, whether you think I'm a girl or not really doesn't matter, now does it?

This made me like you; in a platonic way, of course.

On live, I was in a raiding guild that was led by a wife/husband team. The wife was guild leader, raid leader, and diplomat. She was also a monk and often pulled on the raids as well. Later on, as the guild developed, many of these tasks were delegated, but there was never a doubt who was the guild leader. And we all liked it that way.

On p99, Divinity was led by a female guild leader from its beginning through most of its growth and development. It has since undergone many changes, but the principles and foundation developed then remain.

Choose not to allow others to pigeonhole you, and they won't.

[Ajkuhuun]

Nice Roku, and I agree, one of the first things is to not allow yourself to be a victim (victim seems like a strong word here? But you know what I mean.)

On live never had the pleasure of a female guild or raid leader unless I counted myself lol. All the hardcore raiding guilds on Lanys were ran by guys and if they knew you were a chick, it was over. It was either being hit on, coddled, or left with a job that was so unimportant in a raid it didn't matter whether it got done or not.

I totally started rolling male toons, and it was amazing the difference you saw between one and another. For one thing people seem to be more straightforward when you're fucking up and they think you're a guy, it really helped me to improve my gameplay.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

You're right about girls often getting stuck with those types of classes. I don't mind playing support classes, they may not be the star of the show but they have so much utility which makes them fun.

I probably should "direct" less and just let her figure stuff out on her own. She did learn that a stack of bone chips sells for 5pp by talking to someone, and was pretty stoked about that :)


the existence of support classes is part of why we are playing this old game. Correct me if I am wrong, but my impression of most mmorpg games after eq, is you either heal or do dps.

In eq2 enchanters got turned into a massive dps class. When I left eq2 in 2010, I was often topping the parse. Our buffs last until removed, and cc is almost non-existent.

The idea of "utility classes" is high on my list of Things Games Have Forgotten.

Long live the support/utility class! And may designers who can design them come back to life?

[dnice]

The question is: Why would you want to?

lol exactly my thought

[Autotune]

I'm not reading all of this. However, if you're GF can't be a decent leader and get pulling down she won't last as a monk here.

Should have rolled a rogue imo.

Also, shaman is an obvious choice with Monk. However, you can also roll with cleric, necro, or druid and do pretty well.

As for people telling you it isn't worth it, they don't know what the fuck they are talking about. Getting your SO to join you in your hobbies (or at least try them with you) is a good way to bond and for them to try to understand your hobbies. However, don't be shocked when she asks you to do the same and you better fucking do it too.

P.S. I skimmed through some of these replies. Don't tell her to do necro, or any other int caster for that matter. If she wants to smash faces, let her. If she fails at monk, get her to try a rogue. Rogues are very similar and play less of a leadership role in groups (generally). Another benefit of playing a rogue, is you get more time to socialize and more time seeing how other people play their class (while being able to smash faces). Casters get the same benefit, but they just sit there like smug assholes (except necros, they are the monks of the mana classes).

Anyhow, good luck and don't get high hopes that she will like it. EQ isn't for everyone (even gamers) and if she decides to quit it, just get her to try other things if she is still interested in trying games.

[Porz]

I'm not reading all of this. However, if you're GF can't be a decent leader and get pulling down she won't last as a monk here.

Should have rolled a rogue imo.

Also, shaman is an obvious choice with Monk. However, you can also roll with cleric, necro, or druid and do pretty well.

As for people telling you it isn't worth it, they don't know what the fuck they are talking about. Getting your SO to join you in your hobbies (or at least try them with you) is a good way to bond and for them to try to understand your hobbies. However, don't be shocked when she asks you to do the same and you better fucking do it too.

P.S. I skimmed through some of these replies. Don't tell her to do necro, or any other int caster for that matter. If she wants to smash faces, let her. If she fails at monk, get her to try a rogue. Rogues are very similar and play less of a leadership role in groups (generally). Another benefit of playing a rogue, is you get more time to socialize and more time seeing how other people play their class (while being able to smash faces). Casters get the same benefit, but they just sit there like smug assholes (except necros, they are the monks of the mana classes).

Anyhow, good luck and don't get high hopes that she will like it. EQ isn't for everyone (even gamers) and if she decides to quit it, just get her to try other things if she is still interested in trying games.

Best reply so far.

[Zeonick]

I'm not reading all of this. However, if you're GF can't be a decent leader and get pulling down she won't last as a monk here.

Should have rolled a rogue imo.

Also, shaman is an obvious choice with Monk. However, you can also roll with cleric, necro, or druid and do pretty well.

As for people telling you it isn't worth it, they don't know what the fuck they are talking about. Getting your SO to join you in your hobbies (or at least try them with you) is a good way to bond and for them to try to understand your hobbies. However, don't be shocked when she asks you to do the same and you better fucking do it too.

P.S. I skimmed through some of these replies. Don't tell her to do necro, or any other int caster for that matter. If she wants to smash faces, let her. If she fails at monk, get her to try a rogue. Rogues are very similar and play less of a leadership role in groups (generally). Another benefit of playing a rogue, is you get more time to socialize and more time seeing how other people play their class (while being able to smash faces). Casters get the same benefit, but they just sit there like smug assholes (except necros, they are the monks of the mana classes).

Anyhow, good luck and don't get high hopes that she will like it. EQ isn't for everyone (even gamers) and if she decides to quit it, just get her to try other things if she is still interested in trying games.

Great reply, made me laugh :) But with lots of good info also! A rogue is a really good idea, the only thing is they're so gear dependent. Monks are too, but I feel like people are a little more forgiving about it.

[mtb tripper]

that'd be turkey shit

[Shamen]

If I were you I would....

PL her to catch up with your shammy who is mid lvl so it would only take few days....and then start exping together.

If you want I could take her to Dalnir and farm full crescent gear set for her. Ive done it for several noobs already and really enjoyed it. Dalnir is fun zone, taking low lvl noobie there, keeping him/her alive is a lot of fun and she can come out after couple of hrs wearing pretty damn good gear for a starting monk!

send me tell in game if you wanna do it.

Shamen Scaled <Taken> 60 Iksar Shaman

[Autotune]

Great reply, made me laugh :) But with lots of good info also! A rogue is a really good idea, the only thing is they're so gear dependent. Monks are too, but I feel like people are a little more forgiving about it.

Rogues are as gear dependent as monks. However, rogue gear is as cheap as monk gear (twink wise) and the rogue epic is probably still the cheapest and easiest to get.

[JonathanHancock]

No.

[Loli Pops]

At least you'll be obese together.

[Zeonick]

On a side note, anyone know how long this IP exemption takes? :( We really want to play together and she is kind of geting into it but i'm scared she will lose interest because we cant play together

[Autotune]

On a side note, anyone know how long this IP exemption takes? :( We really want to play together and she is kind of geting into it but i'm scared she will lose interest because we cant play together

could be tomorrow, could be 3 months from now...

They've gotten better about it and I believe average is around 2-4 weeks. You may be able to pm and ask for a rough time frame estimate, but don't be rude about it or anything.

I'd just ask when the last time it was done, if it's been awhile it will be soon and if it wasn't long ago then you probably have a few weeks.

[Zeonick]

Wow.. dang. I should have submitted that awhile ago. Any idea who I message?

[Autotune]

Wow.. dang. I should have submitted that awhile ago. Any idea who I message?

I think Sirken was doing them, if he isn't he will know who is.

[Ajkuhuun]

It took us about two weeks or so for ours and that's been maybe a week and a half ago?

[Zeonick]

Well I guess some people were mean to her in EC today while she was talking in /ooc so she says shes not playing anymore. Maybe when/if the ip exemption goes through we can try again

[Autotune]

Well I guess some people were mean to her in EC today while she was talking in /ooc so she says shes not playing anymore. Maybe when/if the ip exemption goes through we can try again

Yeah, monk isn't going to work out for her when she has to start pulling for groups. I'm sorry man, but she is going to have to take the good with the bad to make it on P99.

[Llodd]

To the op.

If she just really takes to it then no need to read further.

There's a few ways of making her want to play EQ, it's all about psychological conditioning. One of the best being to give her oral pleasurings after every game session. Make sure you only give and not take.

After game sessions be extremely kind and sefless. Offer to do any jobs she needs doing at that time, help her with any outstanding work she may have. Tell her how much you love her and her nasty habits/family, and will do anything for her and her family who you also respect and admire.

Condition her to think EQ = happiness. Kinda like Pavlov's dogs.

Failing that there are more sinister ways. Hook her up to electrodes and shock her if she says bad things about EQ or doesn't want to play ;)

[mtb tripper]

not necessarily

[phacemeltar]

I love to tell this story:

I got my ex to start playing WoW.. she met her next bf on there.

[lolondar]

she enjoyed skyrim... she enjoyed making potions... /slap.... make her play a shammy

[Zyn]

I love to tell this story:

I got my ex to start playing WoW.. she met her next bf on there.

Wow for real? Or are you just making this up.

[Porz]

Wow for real? Or are you just making this up.

I believe it...

[Zeonick]

To the op.

If she just really takes to it then no need to read further.

There's a few ways of making her want to play EQ, it's all about psychological conditioning. One of the best being to give her oral pleasurings after every game session. Make sure you only give and not take.

After game sessions be extremely kind and sefless. Offer to do any jobs she needs doing at that time, help her with any outstanding work she may have. Tell her how much you love her and her nasty habits/family, and will do anything for her and her family who you also respect and admire.

Condition her to think EQ = happiness. Kinda like Pavlov's dogs.

Failing that there are more sinister ways. Hook her up to electrodes and shock her if she says bad things about EQ or doesn't want to play ;)

This is hilarious and there is a lot of truth to it! So far so good, she seems to be enjoying it. She did get halfway through level 3 last night before calling it quits/the server shut down at the exact same time.

I just wish we could play together. Waiting on the IPE which could take awhile. So far we are just taking turns which is still fun :)

[Gimp]

Hey noob, level faster. I need a duo partner.

-Gimpster

[Zeonick]

Hey noob, level faster. I need a duo partner.

-Gimpster

Haha I am trying on my shaman. I see you have shot up in levels since we duo'd last. Honestly I doubt I'll ever catch up at this rate haha.