Adding the Planes of Power in to the original trilogy

[Motec]

Is there any servers I can log into and just use gm commands and shit?

[Lindalind]

You're doing that same bullshit I just called you out on. No, there isn't. Not one.

(There's EQ Mac, if you own a Mac, which I don't, and it's extremely buggy and has no support staff, so that doesn't count.)


Try live, it has everything you want.

There are plenty of servers with luclin/pop and beyond. I just went and had a look,are you blind ?

[Atmas]

I think people are missing the point. When people are asking for luclin/PoP they don't mean a server that has content 4+ expansions past them to make them pointless and easy. Many people liked the progression experience that continued after Velious. Velious kicks ass and I hope its the end game for a good amount of time but eventually it will get old.

[mokfarg]

I think people are missing the point. When people are asking for luclin/PoP they don't mean a server that has content 4+ expansions past them to make them pointless and easy. Many people liked the progression experience that continued after Velious. Velious kicks ass and I hope its the end game for a good amount of time but eventually it will get old.

Yay, then it will be like the already available EQ Mac server ..... no thanks. I prefer to have one people have been begging SOE for years for, a classic trilogy server.

[noffo]

Yay, then it will be like the already available EQ Mac server ..... no thanks. I prefer to have one people have been begging SOE for years for, a classic trilogy server.

I agree. P99 doesn't need to follow in SOE's footsteps. Stick to the original trilogy which is what made EQ popular to begin with. If people want to progress further, then have another server where they can transfer to.

[Lindalind]

Another thing is that the ones who want to conquer new areas quickly know every pixel,every trick,every method to do so.
Any expansion whatsoever will go poof and won't hold their attention for long.
Adding extra expansions will end up losing the ones who play because they love the classic everquest.

[Korisek]

Another thing is that the ones who want to conquer new areas quickly know every pixel,every trick,every method to do so.
Any expansion whatsoever will go poof and won't hold their attention for long.
Adding extra expansions will end up losing the ones who play because they love the classic everquest.

How about expanding the old world without any announcements about it?

[noffo]

How about expanding the old world without any announcements about it?

How about leaving it to just the original Trilogy? There's too much demand for a true, Classic server. SOE had an EPIC FAIL when it came to giving players what they asked for. The progression server was meh. Not truly classic. P99 is the closest we'll ever get, so why mess around with that?

[Atmas]

How about leaving it to just the original Trilogy? There's too much demand for a true, Classic server. SOE had an EPIC FAIL when it came to giving players what they asked for. The progression server was meh. Not truly classic. P99 is the closest we'll ever get, so why mess around with that?

The failure of the progression servers wasn't that they went beyond on the trilogy it was that they weren't classic servers. The great thing about P99 is that it is the closest thing to playing the game when it actually launched, just not current Everquest with locked out content.

I'm not going to argue that many people wanted the stuff just up until Velious. But I do really think at some point the server's population will really hit the skids after Velious has been out a long time. Maybe just my opinion.

[Nirgon]

Gear/content wise, it would be entirely possible for them to have never implemented Luclin (aside from its AA's) and just done PoP. I would have enjoyed it much more, especially as being proposed, without plane of knowledge.

[messiah_b]

It will hit the skids at the end of Velious, but that doesn't mean Luclin / POP are the solution. Some of the ideas of slow releasing planes with new zone-in's aren't bad. You could also do new custom content if you have an ambitious development team.

At the point that the classic trilogy is ending here, I can think of many things I would want to try out (including a complete re-wipe) before resorting to moon kittens or pok.

The most important thing about staying classic are the mechanics (spells, abilities, aa's). Far away second is the content (spawn points, drops, quests)

[noffo]

The failure of the progression servers wasn't that they went beyond on the trilogy it was that they weren't classic servers. The great thing about P99 is that it is the closest thing to playing the game when it actually launched, just not current Everquest with locked out content.

I'm not going to argue that many people wanted the stuff just up until Velious. But I do really think at some point the server's population will really hit the skids after Velious has been out a long time. Maybe just my opinion.

Exactly. SOE couldn't do it right. As P99 has proven, it CAN be done and it CAN be done right. SOE just didn't care to put the effort into it.

Honestly, I don't see why the pop will hit the skids. Why not role an alt and play a different race/class? Enjoy classic EQ all over again with a different character. Classic EQ had amazing replay value. It's always a fun game to come back to.

To get back on track with the OP:

Adding the Planes in isn't too bad of an idea. No it isn't classic, but it does tie in with the planes already released in the Trilogy. Perhaps those PoP zones can only be access through the classic planes? Or the only way to get to the PoP planes is from a special drop in one of the other planes that would port you there.

I wouldn't be against the PoP planes, but I would be fine if they weren't added. Just don't add anything else beyond Velious. No kitties, no frogs, no dragon people, instanced dungeons, or priests sending you to some other dimension. Just the Classic Trilogy, please.

[pickled_heretic]

the people who hunger for progression are the most active ones. already you see people clamoring for epics and velious as they had been clamoring for VP in the past. we shall see what will happen after velious has been out for a while, but my suspicion is the population will shrink once the content treadmill has been shut off.

[Diggles]

never release the last part of velious and leave em dry

[Nirgon]

It will hit the skids at the end of Velious, but that doesn't mean Luclin / POP are the solution. Some of the ideas of slow releasing planes with new zone-in's aren't bad. You could also do new custom content if you have an ambitious development team.

At the point that the classic trilogy is ending here, I can think of many things I would want to try out (including a complete re-wipe) before resorting to moon kittens or pok.

The most important thing about staying classic are the mechanics (spells, abilities, aa's). Far away second is the content (spawn points, drops, quests)

The truth of the matter is it is a project and we're free to play, enjoy and contribute. The staff's "quest" to continue working on mechanics, quests, scripts, hit/miss rates/armor/whatever is still theirs and I believe they do enjoy it, even if the pop is 0.

[Lindalind]

The truth of the matter is it is a project and we're free to play, enjoy and contribute. The staff's "quest" to continue working on mechanics, quests, scripts, hit/miss rates/armor/whatever is still theirs and I believe they do enjoy it, even if the pop is 0.

In the long run it's impossible to please the fastest levelers,you can never bring in enough content.
Just focus on making the trilogy the best it can be and it will be more than enough for players who are now moms and pops and have a lot less time.
This server doesn't have the highest population most days because it promises more expansions and new content. It's because it promises the classic experience.

There will always be people who want to play classic Everquest.

[noffo]

The following should put an end to this discussion. It was taken from the FAQ located here:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1002

What is the progression?

Aeolwind posted a list of the original progression on live, which the GMs will be trying to stick to. Located here. This progression will end with Velious. Luclin and other expansions will not be available on this server.

[KentalCowtipper]

GP - I was reading your plans to segment off the planar zones in POP to various old world locations and I have to say that its a pretty brilliant idea.

Last update I see from you on this is May '11.
Are you guys still looking any doing anything like this?

[Kika Maslyaka]

the entire thread is hypothetical. Even if this would happen, it will take place a YEAR after Velious.