Erudin Faction

[gothmonk]

Hi,

I decided to start an erudite SK tonight.. only to find out, I am "glares threateningly" to the Erudin guards and obviously KOS.. which leaves me no way off the island naturally... Gather Shadows is level 30.

I am a newbie to the server.

1) I know you can gain Erudin faction in the Warrens with quests.. Warrens is closed.

2) Many forums posts on the internet have stated you can gain Erudin faction by killing kobolds in Toxxulia Forest. I have tried a few types and had a counterpart try killing other kobolds. No faction gained for Erudin.


I know Erudite Necros are dubiously to Erudin guards -- so they can slip by... but Erudite SK's cannot.

Are these kobolds in Toxxulia supposed to give faction as stated on several Allakhazam postings?

Short of getting a free port off Odus to NKaranas and binding in Qeynos and starting there -- What is the natural progression I should be taking for faction to pass through Erudin?

[Reiker]

The only bug here is that Necros should be kos too. I don't remember the non-warrens kobolds ever increasing Erudin faction. Paineel/Erudin factions were difficult to raise, and most likely impossible to raise without hurting the other.

[mmiles8]

Send Anleus a tell in game if you're stuck there and need to get off of Odus.

[gothmonk]

OK. The bug was reported, because there needs to be a logical progression for an erudite SK to get past the guards to eventually leave Odus. An SK does not receive Gather Shadows until Level 30. If the Warrens is closed, that is the zone people used to get faction with the High Council of Erudin I think...to get better faction with the guards.

I studied this pretty thoroughly, because I couldn't believe how a necro can walk past but I can't.

[mmiles8]

Erudites and Humans have a little more choice, but religion can sometimes be problematic for them. (http://web.archive.org/web/20010207195932/eq.castersrealm.com/creationguides/shadowknight.asp)

Working on digging up something more definitive.

Also please post your deity for your Necro and your SK

[astarothel]

Both classes are Cazic only as Erudites.

[Reiker]

OK. The bug was reported, because there needs to be a logical progression for an erudite SK to get past the guards to eventually leave Odus. An SK does not receive Gather Shadows until Level 30. If the Warrens is closed, that is the zone people used to get faction with the High Council of Erudin I think...to get better faction with the guards.

I studied this pretty thoroughly, because I couldn't believe how a necro can walk past but I can't.

The logical progression was to get an invis or a port from someone.

[gothmonk]

Erudite SK -- My Faction is Cazic Thule... erudin guards threatening.

Erudite Necro -- Cazic-Thule as well. Guards are dubious.


I should almost create an erudite SK on live and see what I con to the Erudin guards. Things may have changed though.

[Deric]

The firepot in the hut used to teleport you to Qeynos Catacombs. That was changed in the March 28th Patch. I'm not sure when they were exactly implemented.

[Dersk]

Considering most quests in Erudin and Paineel drop faction with the opposing city, it wasn't too hard to turn dubious faction into KOS. I personally played an Erudite Cleric of Cazuc-Thule on live right after luclin and was not KOS to anything in Erudin. I had dubious faction, yes, but no one attacked me.

And, an Allakhazam quote from 2001...

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/races.html?race=6
Actually, its not that hard to get off Odus at all. And the docks at Erudin arent KOS. They're dubious. The docks at Qeynos I believe, are dubious as well. Be sure to con first though. I know for a fact that the casters guild in South Qeynos is KOS.

I know qeynos faction is horribly screwed up with respect to Erudites as my p1999 Erduite cleric was amiable to almost everyone in Qeynos, with a few indifferent. He should be KOS to most of Qeynos including the 'good' guards.

I vaguely recall being KOS in oggok on my agnostic Erudite enchanter, but I know it wasn't has high as the faction I automatically had on p1999. The whole thing is off. I don't know if it's a bug or data entry, though.

Edit: I believe Erudite followers of Quellios should be KOS in paineel, but can't find anything from way back saying such.

Edit2: I just checked live, and a starting quellios paladin in KOS in paineel. A starting sk is dubious in Erudin.

[gothmonk]

Well, I didn't kill anything bad on my erudite SK, and the Erudin guards were "Glares threateningly" .. I got to Qeynos via port now, and the Qeynos guards are dubious. Easy to build that faction though.

[mmiles8]

An evil Erudite Heretic must be wary of travelling through good cities, including Erudin, which has the only dock to the rest of the world. (http://web.archive.org/web/20001205160900/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/)

Here ya go, finally dug up something definitive like I promised.

[Dersk]

And, if you follow that link to the discussions about who is KOS where, rather than a vague warning of being "wary":

http://web.archive.org/web/20001205160900/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/
Why is it that Heretics have free access to Erudin (although dubious..still not KoS) and we of Erudin are immediately KoS in their city?

Contrary to what the "RE: Traveling through" post says, an Erudite necro COULD be KOS in Erudin. How? Doing most Paineel quests will hurt your Erudin faction.

i want help with my erudin necro im lvl 7 and i dont know where should i stay in the warrens or should i go to quenos to get my faction up at the knoll place as i am not kos in erudin or are there and other good places in odius.

Edit: Races>Erudite>Strategy Discussion

[Sundawg]

Edit2: I just checked live, and a starting quellios paladin in KOS in paineel. A starting sk is dubious in Erudin.


True, and this is how it is on the server(s) now. (well, most of Erudin at least is dubious to the Heretics of Paineel, beware the casters)

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