Bye P1999 from Sandows

[jeffreyjent]

Just to the few of you out there who knew me well enough from grouping, etc. My account was banned for RMT, in retrospect I feel like an idiot for not trying to find out if it was against the rules or not. (I legitimately didnt know) I had multiple other players I grouped with along the way tell me about Platlord and figured...well if other people in game are doing it, why can't I.....it must be ok.

I bought 15k (twice) and twinked a lowbie rogue and got some gear for myself...I finally wasnt the only twink in groups. I had no interest in doing any more RMT, no reason to go crazy but for once I felt I wasn't undergeared in every group I was in.

I guess a lot of people probably already know RMT is a bannable offense, I didn't...again I guess that is my own fault for being ignorant/not being on the forums all the time. I just relied on information from players in the game....you know kind of like back in P1999.

Just wanted to say goodbye to those of you I shared good times with, I don't have enough time to think about leveling up another character from scratch after already doing it once. I am really going to miss this game, I hope this saves someone else from doing what I did.

-Sandows 44 SK

[gotrocks]

damn. is rmt really this prominent?

i kind of feel left out.

i also kind of feel like a winner for not spending money on a 14 yr old emulated version of a game.

for real though sorry to hear that man, can always start over, though i can see why you'd not want to.

[Ponden]

damn. is rmt really this prominent?

i kind of feel left out.
.

Yes

[Barkingturtle]

I feel no pity.

[SamwiseRed]

i wont troll, lesson learned. my only question is how does one think this is not against the rules? like seriously, its like buying drugs from a guy at a corner and not knowing it was illegal. if it were not against the rules, i assure this project would have the business on lock-down and making $$$$

[Thulack]

i wont troll, lesson learned. my only question is how does one think this is not against the rules? like seriously, its like buying drugs from a guy at a corner and not knowing it was illegal. if it were not against the rules, i assure this project would have the business on lock-down and making $$$$

Kinda hard to use that as a example. Drugs are illegal in RL and your always taught not to buy/use them. Today's MMO's make it ok to spend RL money on games so people just sometimes think its ok to do it here.

[Sebekkha]

Why Sandows? wasn't the gear I loaded you up with sufficient ? I suppose more fool me for sinking 1-2k on random new players to help them out.

"There is a sufficiency in the world for man's need but not for man's greed"

[gotrocks]

buying drugs from dante is illegal??

fuck man i need to find a new vice.

[jeffreyjent]

Thinking it was ok came from hearing about it from multiple players on my way leveling up, i wasn't reading the forums everyday...like I said I got info from the players in the game. In the game...my experience was hearing lots of talk about doing it and not hearing any talk about it being a bannable offense, etc. I'm not blaming anyone but myself, because a little alarm in my head did go off while I was doing it...but in the end I made the wrong decision.

[Treefall]

Posted everywhere on the website, I could have sworm (haven't logged in in a while) it was plastered on the yellow text upon logging in, people talk about it in EC at least once a day...

You seriously wrote this up to sound like you're a victim? You're not a victim. At all.

[Barkingturtle]

In the game...my experience was hearing lots of talk about doing it.

Name names.

[Treefall]

Name names.

Oh come on man, everybody's doin' it.

Just try a little, I'll let you have some for free.

[SamwiseRed]

Kinda hard to use that as a example. Drugs are illegal in RL and your always taught not to buy/use them. Today's MMO's make it ok to spend RL money on games so people just sometimes think its ok to do it here.

ive never done it but its always seemed like a shady business. i mean having to paypal money to a guy with a hotmail address on an unauthorized site wasnt a clue?

[gotrocks]

fellas, fellas.

he didnt know dante (platlord) was shady as fuck. totally legitimate excuse.

lol honestly though i think the guy has lost enough, we dont have to rail on him for several pages of this thread. just /wave and move on.

and stop buying your drugs from the guy on the corner. get a script from your doctor or something.

[heartbrand]

another reason why red is good, RMT basically nonexistent

[jeffreyjent]

Why Sandows? wasn't the gear I loaded you up with sufficient ? I suppose more fool me for sinking 1-2k on random new players to help them out.

"There is a sufficiency in the world for man's need but not for man's greed"

I didn't fool you Sebekkha. I was a total noob to the server when you helped me and at that point hadn't heard a peep about RMT. Don't think I heard anyone mention it until I was in my 20's.

Indeed as a low lvl on this server was "twinked' by nice players such as yourself (Sebekhha) along the way, but when I got to my 40's my gear was generally below that of players i was trying to group with and it made it hard to get groups.

As I said I had the experience of grouping with multiple guys (who would still be playing weeks after mentioning RMT) who would say "I need to buy some PP from platlord to get a FBSs, etc."

[jeffreyjent]

ive never done it but its always seemed like a shady business. i mean having to paypal money to a guy with a hotmail address on an unauthorized site wasnt a clue?

Didnt use paypal, used google wallet. No red flags for me, guess I have to live and learn. I'm still very upset about losing my character regardless, not blaming anyone. I genuinely hope this doesn't happen to anyone else under similar circumstances.

[gotrocks]

^^thefuck.

why have i never heard people talking like that??

and yes hb, red is good ;)

[Vianna]

Kinda funny... I have leveled 3 chars on this server and never heard random players talk about the RMT they do. I have however heard people complain about it and say it is a bannable offence in game. Story seems unlikely imo.

[Ponden]

another reason why red is good, RMT basically nonexistent

lol.

[gotrocks]

^^ yeah exactly. maybe we are just paragons of virtue, vianna, and all the evildoers won't show their true colors around us.

never once heard someone say 'rmt from platlord need pp lolz'

**edit**
stop ninja posting you fucks. im too lazy to hit the quote button.

[formallydickman]

As I said I had the experience of grouping with multiple guys (who would still be playing weeks after mentioning RMT) who would say "I need to buy some PP from platlord to get a FBSs, etc."

Yup hear this all the time. oh wait, no you don't.

[Nlaar]

Why Sandows? wasn't the gear I loaded you up with sufficient ? I suppose more fool me for sinking 1-2k on random new players to help them out.

"There is a sufficiency in the world for man's need but not for man's greed"

Dude I hear that... also gave him 2k.

[fastboy21]

So platlord is back in business? thought ephi shut him down weeks ago?

[Ephi]

Truth be told, I am one of the few who geniunely feels bad for new players who are not aware of the rules (be it through ignorance or whatever).

But, rules are rules. The very experience that players come to relive owes itself to the policies and procedures of the server and the maintainers who created them.

[citizen1080]

my only question is how does one think this is not against the rules?

Well Sam...it could be the fact that pretty much every current MMO has RMT built into it =p

[Alukit Vassago]

hate to be that guy but while i was grouping & what not people did talk about doing these actions but i did say isn't that cheating or so & got a reply of " of course but who cares" or "it doesn't hurt anyone", i think its not a good idea & i had to work for all my gear by solo,grouping with friends or waiting for a deal to come up at EC c.c i got to say man i wish i had the luck to have people help me out in the beginning like Sebekkha but atleast someone did throw me some banded mail :P i do know how it sucks to be "that guy" with shitty gear or so since alot of sk seems to be geared out & i as a lvl 44 sk don't have a fbss or anything special. tbh i just feel bad for ya & the railing isn't needed the guy lost his toon/time & money, all i will say to you is start fresh & new (if allowed) & just have fun & never let twinks get you down

[Ephi]

So platlord is back in business? thought ephi shut him down weeks ago?

He's persistent, and I have real life things to attend to from time to time.

[VII]

I too and my brother were banned today for RMT from Dante. I guess I'll have more time for other things now though lol

You're not alone Sandows! The "scum" are being eradicated one at a time.

[Boilon]

I don't even know where to start. So I won't. But, are people really this dumb?

[Thulack]

He's persistent, and I have real life things to attend to from time to time.

i got my money on the halfling. (Is betting on Ephi vs Platlord RMT?) :D

[fastboy21]

I'll agree that there are plenty of scummier folks in EQ (on p99 and off) that are far worse than someone who buys a fbss in the illegal RMT market.

That's why it kind of sucks. Rules are rules though.

[Tsenor]

i was banned today too. i didnt hear anyone talking about it, i just googled it. i do think permanent ban is a little harsh and every situation should be dealt with according to the situation. would have happily given up the few pieces of armor i did buy and the rest of the plat if someone had said something before that action was taken. ill just make sure to read 2000 pages of forums before i start another MMO

[Bazia]

2 boxing is a slap on the wrist where as RMT is perma ban

makes sense

[Boilon]

don't feel sorry for people who RMT. Go back to your cash shop games where you can pay to win.

[formallydickman]

i was banned today too. i didnt hear anyone talking about it, i just googled it. i do think permanent ban is a little harsh and every situation should be dealt with according to the situation. would have happily given up the few pieces of armor i did buy and the rest of the plat if someone had said something before that action was taken. ill just make sure to read 2000 pages of forums before i start another MMO

I don't know maybe before dropping money you'd think you'd just peruse the rules or something

[Sarius]

I could see how this could be perceived as being permitted by new players. Unless I am mistaken, does it say anywhere under the server rules in the "getting started" section that RMT is not allowed?

I also found it amusing how many characters are in violation if the strict naming policy and that 2-boxers will most likely be perma-banned, lol.

[Tsenor]

don't feel sorry for people who RMT. Go back to your cash shop games where you can pay to win.

wasnt "paying to win" i bought tolapujms robe, book of obulus, and impskin gloves. the rest was donated for ports rezzes and such. and formallydickman after playing tons of other mmo where you can do whatever you want why the thought even cross your mind that there would be rules to read?

[Sarius]

wasnt "paying to win" i bought tolapujms robe, book of obulus, and impskin gloves. the rest was donated for ports rezzes and such. and formallydickman after playing tons of other mmo where you can do whatever you want why the thought even cross your mind that there would be rules to read?

Before I was gonna spend RL money in video game shit I would have at least checked out the EC tunnel section and noticed that people aren't auctioning "WTS Fungi Tunic 100Kpp or $100"

[formallydickman]

no cure for careless, i guess

[fastboy21]

Folks know that RMT is against the rules. They may not have thought that anyone could catch them or that the consequence would be perma-ban.

If you honestly didn't know that RMT was against the rules on p99 then you are in an extreme minority. Its possible, but thats why its your job to read the rules.

Aut disce aut discede.

[Tsenor]

Before I was gonna spend RL money in video game shit I would have at least checked out the EC tunnel section and noticed that people aren't auctioning "WTS Fungi Tunic 100Kpp or $100"

i didnt know there was an EC tunnel section. i didnt know people were auctioning things on websites. i found the p99 wiki for an enchanter build because thats the first page that popped up on google. i dont look for game forums for a game that i already know how to play. I had to call my brother just to ask where to go to talk to a gm.

[Menemas]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1002

Doesn't seem too hard to find the answer........

[Tsenor]

and i didnt buy items with money. i bought the plat and bought the items off of PCs i didnt even know you could buy items with money

[Tsenor]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1002

Doesn't seem too hard to find the answer........

to find the answer to what question??????

[Menemas]

Can I pay real money to ____?
Nope! Real money trading (RMT) is expressly forbidden and offering real money for items or services in game, or vice versa, will get you a one way ticket to ban town. Full details of this rule are located here. Likewise, expecting or insinuating that donating money to this server will result in preferential treatment or in-game benefits is highly frowned upon and will most likely get your petition/request/.etc ignored.

[citizen1080]

Your case isn't all that rare Tsenor. No matter what these people say. I have gotten hundreds of new players asking to buy plat from me on the forums. I informed them otherwise and in many cases gave them something in game to get them started.

And like you I didn't even know about the forums here for the first 3-4 months I was on the server.

[Legend]

did not know about this forum?

loaded up p99

but where did you get the spell files for this server?

/liar

/busted

/goodbye

[Legend]

your brother plays here...

and you RMT

your brother didnt hook you up?

you bought plat and didnt hook him up?

/more lies good riddance

[Barkingturtle]

Your case isn't all that rare Tsenor. No matter what these people say. I have gotten hundreds of new players asking to buy plat from me on the forums. I informed them otherwise and in many cases gave them something in game to get them started.

And like you I didn't even know about the forums here for the first 3-4 months I was on the server.

It's safe to assume people PM'ing you on the forums know about the forums.


/liar

/busted

/goodbye

[Tsenor]

I dont think you actually read my other post, so ill say it again. after playing tons of other mmo where you can do whatever you want why would the thought even cross your mind that there would be rules to read? i was 15 when i stopped playing the first time and at the time the only things i even considered as rules were just common game courtesy (dont ks, be friendly etc etc). the thought had never crossed my mind that i could buy pp because i wouldnt have had the money to anyway. 9 years (and tons of mmo's) later, i didnt have the slightest idea that i would need to come read some rules. is it really too much to ask for one warning? if you say something to someone and they do it again then yeah, ban them. they were aware that there were rules because you told them and they knew better

[Legend]

bro you lost your account stop posting no one likes you for RMT'ing re roll and play legit

your a liar scum and whats wrong with this server, you didn't know about the forums but you got the spell files from where? your dog? you called your dog to ask how to contact a gm? your so full of shit, your not getting your account back

/bye

[Legend]

its fugging impossible to play on this server without coming to this website to get the UPDATED SPELL FILES TO PLAY HERE

STOP JUST STOP

[citizen1080]

I realize your IQ isn't much to brag about going off your post history. However, you might want to read a post before posting your normal negative retarded drivel.

/cheers


It's safe to assume people PM'ing you on the forums know about the forums.


/liar

/busted

/goodbye

[Tsenor]

did not know about this forum?

loaded up p99

but where did you get the spell files for this server?

/liar

/busted

/goodbye

your brother plays here...

and you RMT

your brother didnt hook you up?

you bought plat and didnt hook him up?

/more lies good riddance

brother loaded up p99 and im playing on his laptop. he set up my account while i was at work because i work 75+ hrs a week and only have weekends off. second, he plays a monk. how is he supposed to get me armor when he doesnt have money for his own, and i was going to buy him some plat when i got my check in this week BECAUSE I DIDNT KNOW IT WAS ILLEGAL.

[fastboy21]

I dont think you actually read my other post, so ill say it again. after playing tons of other mmo where you can do whatever you want why would the thought even cross your mind that there would be rules to read? i was 15 when i stopped playing the first time and at the time the only things i even considered as rules were just common game courtesy (dont ks, be friendly etc etc). the thought had never crossed my mind that i could buy pp because i wouldnt have had the money to anyway. 9 years (and tons of mmo's) later, i didnt have the slightest idea that i would need to come read some rules. is it really too much to ask for one warning? if you say something to someone and they do it again then yeah, ban them. they were aware that there were rules because you told them and they knew better

You aren't banned; your account was. You are more than welcome to keep playing here on a fresh toon/account devoid of cheating. Thats not what you really want though, is it? :p

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

You kind of have to be way out of the mmo loop to not know about "plat farming" in general: vast armies of Chinese toddlers killing spiders or orcs for great justice, and the profit of the internet cafes that siphons that plat to be disbursed at dozens of websites for $$.

On the progression server from a couple years ago, entire guilds were nothing but legions -- legions I say -- of macro'd autobots slaughtering entire zones, rinsing and repeating at repop.

I watched the movie 300 and when they depicted the hordes of the Persians, I was like, yeah, plat farmers.

But I jest. But seriously, you have to be out of the loop on mmo's to not know plat farming and selling is shady and NOT COOL MAN.

I know, I get it. SOE sells you special unicorn helms for $5 US. I get that. But saying you thought plat farmers were the same deal is just kind of evidence you are not that bright. Just sayin.

Re-roll. It's what a plat farmer would do, are you gonna let a plat farmer out e-peen you?

Just re-roll. It's fun. It's p99. First 10 levels are a game unto itself anyway. Serious. Slow down, have fun, make friends, post flames. That's what I do.

[Tsenor]

You aren't banned; your account was. You are more than welcome to keep playing here on a fresh toon/account devoid of cheating. Thats not what you really want though, is it? :p

i just want my account back. believe it or not i did put a lot of work into getting where i was and it had nothing to do with the plat i bought. i did reroll a new character. and i had no intention of cheating the first time. i just wasnt aware that i couldnt do that because i wasnt aware there was an mmo out there that you couldnt buy money.

[Legend]

brother loaded up p99 and im playing on his laptop. he set up my account while i was at work because i work 75+ hrs a week and only have weekends off. second, he plays a monk. how is he supposed to get me armor when he doesnt have money for his own, and i was going to buy him some plat when i got my check in this week BECAUSE I DIDNT KNOW IT WAS ILLEGAL.

man stop posting your lies dont even stack up right

you already said in a previous post you had to "call your brother" to find out a way to contact a gm...

but your playing p99 on his labtop... he just gave you a labtop with p99 on it all loaded rdy to go, weve had a few patches youve been here for some time, ive seen you in game months ago, how did you repatch p99?

you and your bro live together but you had to phone him to contact a gm not wait for him to get home and speak to him

you do not have a brother, you bought plat with money, you cant play here without coming to this website for spell files, ive seen you in game months ago, weve had a few updates since then, you are a liar, your account is gone, stop grovling, stop posting

play legit

[Tsenor]

You kind of have to be way out of the mmo loop to not know about "plat farming" in general: vast armies of Chinese toddlers killing spiders or orcs for great justice, and the profit of the internet cafes that siphons that plat to be disbursed at dozens of websites for $$.

On the progression server from a couple years ago, entire guilds were nothing but legions -- legions I say -- of macro'd autobots slaughtering entire zones, rinsing and repeating at repop.

I watched the movie 500 and when they depicted the hordes of the Persians, I was like, yeah, plat farmers.

But I jest. But seriously, you have to be out of the loop on mmo's to not know plat farming and selling is shady and NOT COOL MAN.

I know, I get it. SOE sells you special unicorn helms for $5 US. I get that. But saying you thought plat farmers were the same deal is just kind of evidence you are not that bright. Just sayin.

Re-roll. It's what a plat farmer would do, are you gonna let a plat farmer out e-peen you?

Just re-roll. It's fun. It's p99. First 10 levels are a game unto itself anyway. Serious. Slow down, have fun, make friends, post flames. That's what I do.

well i guess im way out of the loop then.

[Legend]

you broke some serious rules deal with it

"officer i didnt know drugs were illegal, can you just give me a warning"

/ignorance is not an excuse to get out of jail for free

[Vianna]

i didnt know there was an EC tunnel section. i didnt know people were auctioning things on websites. i found the p99 wiki for an enchanter build because thats the first page that popped up on google. i dont look for game forums for a game that i already know how to play. I had to call my brother just to ask where to go to talk to a gm.

I doubt you are this Naive.... When you have to go offset to buy stuff with real money it is a pretty clear indicator that it isn't allowed by server staff. Anyone that says "I didn't know" I would question strongly... You have to sign up on this site just to start after all. I think anyone would ask the question "Is it allowed" before spending money on a 2nd party site.

[dwpittman]

I saw sandows wtb stuff in ec that theres no way a noob could get. I knew exactly what he did. He was either 1) full of shit about being a newb and had a higher level to twink with or 2) buying plat. I have one toon and have only made a little over 5k after 49 levels and im still wearing leather studded boots on a 49druid. Most of that money has come from porting, and I know an SK cant port for money. SO dude ur full of crap and stop coming back here looking for sympathy. You said goodbye, so leave. But then that's not why u really posted now is it.

[Tecmos Deception]

This thread is much more lively than R&F!

[fastboy21]

in sandow's defense (kind of) his thread has been hijacked by other folks that were banned today (one in particular) seeking their reprieve.

[Tsenor]

man stop posting your lies dont even stack up right

you already said in a previous post you had to "call your brother" to find out a way to contact a gm...

but your playing p99 on his labtop... he just gave you a labtop with p99 on it all loaded rdy to go, weve had a few patches youve been here for some time, ive seen you in game months ago, how did you repatch p99?

you and your bro live together but you had to phone him to contact a gm not wait for him to get home and speak to him

you do not have a brother, you bought plat with money, you cant play here without coming to this website for spell files, ive seen you in game months ago, weve had a few updates since then, you are a liar, your account is gone, stop grovling, stop posting

play legit

lol you usually phone someone because they're not home. and idk how you saw me in game months ago when ive been playing for 4 days (just in case you cant count and arent listening that means i started the game last weekend and played saturday and sunday. then i worked all week and played yesterday and now im on today.) i also said that i was playing on HIS laptop (that HE also plays on). who's just going to give you a laptop? you calling me a liar 10 times doesnt make me a liar and i thought i was playing "legit"

[fastboy21]

Now I really don't understand...if you only lost a few days of playing then whats all the hubbub about? Consider yourself lucky that you learned the rules today (and only lost a few days) instead of the ban coming a few months from now...

Just reroll and don't RMT. You can make up that loss easy.

[Tsenor]

I doubt you are this Naive.... When you have to go offset to buy stuff with real money it is a pretty clear indicator that it isn't allowed by server staff. Anyone that says "I didn't know" I would question strongly... You have to sign up on this site just to start after all. I think anyone would ask the question "Is it allowed" before spending money on a 2nd party site.

once again. i didnt sign myself up. and once again. this is the first game ive ever played that this has been an issue... if this has never been a problem before why would you think it was a problem now

[Robdukes]

I've been wanting to start up a new toon recently. No plat No gear. It's one of my favorite parts of EQ. When you get that bronze chestpiece drop your like HELL YEA!!!! or that first fine steel weapon!
Those twinks you were playing with (if they aren't banned for RMT now) were players who leveled a toon or a couple legit and have enough plat to twink more alts.
I think there's a thread around here where someone is starting a guild? or group of from scratch no twinks to level together.
Hope you re-roll legit.

[Tsenor]

I've been wanting to start up a new toon recently. No plat No gear. It's one of my favorite parts of EQ. When you get that bronze chestpiece drop your like HELL YEA!!!! or that first fine steel weapon!
Those twinks you were playing with (if they aren't banned for RMT now) were players who leveled a toon or a couple legit and have enough plat to twink more alts.
I think there's a thread around here where someone is starting a guild? or group of from scratch no twinks to level together.
Hope you re-roll legit.

he wasnt a twink. bought tolapujms robe book of obulus and impskin gloves. i earned my opalline earring and my bracelet of woven grass and my glowing mask for mid 20's mask quest. everything else was cloth

[Langrisser]

plat = happiness, rmt = plat

plat = MQ

any one else care to deny the sweet, sweet truth anymore

[Vandy]

its fugging impossible to play on this server without coming to this website to get the UPDATED SPELL FILES TO PLAY HERE

STOP JUST STOP

No it's not I've walked countless people through how to setup p99 over twitch and given them direct download links to the files. I don't condone rmt and they broke the rules so they were punished, ignorance is not an excuse, but it is possible to play this game without ever going to the website or forums.

[Sarius]

Plat = happiness is debatable
Being a noob is the happiest I ever was in this game

RMT = Plat is debatable
Can buy items or accounts

Plat = MQ is debatable
Guildies, friend, or nice people can assist with MQs for free

[Robdukes]

Tough way to learn the rules I suppose. Either way sounds like you were enjoying playing and earning your gear after that first RMT. So start up a new character and screw what everyone else has and just be proud of what you earned on that toon. If your dead set on getting your banned character back, your better off not saying anything on the forums and waiting 6 months and posting in the appropriate part of the forum..petition forum maybe. It still may not happen but If it does you should delete the items you originally RMT'd

[Shift]

Just to the few of you out there who knew me well enough from grouping, etc. My account was banned for RMT, in retrospect I feel like an idiot for not trying to find out if it was against the rules or not. (I legitimately didnt know) I had multiple other players I grouped with along the way tell me about Platlord and figured...well if other people in game are doing it, why can't I.....it must be ok.

I bought 15k (twice) and twinked a lowbie rogue and got some gear for myself...I finally wasnt the only twink in groups. I had no interest in doing any more RMT, no reason to go crazy but for once I felt I wasn't undergeared in every group I was in.

I guess a lot of people probably already know RMT is a bannable offense, I didn't...again I guess that is my own fault for being ignorant/not being on the forums all the time. I just relied on information from players in the game....you know kind of like back in P1999.

Just wanted to say goodbye to those of you I shared good times with, I don't have enough time to think about leveling up another character from scratch after already doing it once. I am really going to miss this game, I hope this saves someone else from doing what I did.

-Sandows 44 SK

Later Sandows this Kishift fun times in HHK gobs let the adventure be with you that is why it never pays to cheat or try to exploit

[fastboy21]

he wasnt a twink. bought tolapujms robe book of obulus and impskin gloves. i earned my opalline earring and my bracelet of woven grass and my glowing mask for mid 20's mask quest. everything else was cloth

how much plat do you have buy before he is a twink? :confused:

[NegaStoat]

Not that this helps at all but... I joined the server around 2 weeks ago. I treated the server just like I would have treated old Morrel Thule on the threshold of Velious. I knew I'd need to farm plat to get the starter gear.

I made a cleric that I cared about. Leveled in Butcherblock from 1-4 killing skellys and saving chips. Then I killed some orcs, and went back and killed skellys, saving every chip all the way to 9. I stopped, rolled a DE enchanter. Had that character level from 1-4 in Freeport killing skellys and saving every chip.

I took the Enchanter on the boat to Kalimdim to hand in a buttload of Bone Chips to Gunlok Jure to make level 8. Then I went to go fish up some Steins of Moggok for starter money. The steins sold decently as Alliance is bugged and will resist on both of the quests's end targets. Freeport faction improvement IS needed for a DE agnostic enchanter, but Janam and Rebby and 2 hours took care of that for me.

All the work done, I had what was needed for full banded armor, my spells, and a decent 200-300 pp weapon for the character I wanted to keep leveling.

I'd rather set my pubic hairs on fire before I'd ever pay someone real money for game currency, ever.

[Sarius]

Not that this helps at all but... I joined the server around 2 weeks ago. I treated the server just like I would have treated old Morrel Thule on the threshold of Velious. I knew I'd need to farm plat to get the starter gear.

I made a cleric that I cared about. Leveled in Butcherblock from 1-4 killing skellys and saving chips. Then I killed some orcs, and went back and killed skellys, saving every chip all the way to 9. I stopped, rolled a DE enchanter. Had that character level from 1-4 in Freeport killing skellys and saving every chip.

I took the Enchanter on the boat to Kalimdim to hand in a buttload of Bone Chips to Gunlok Jure to make level 8. Then I went to go fish up some Steins of Moggok for starter money. The steins sold decently as Alliance is bugged and will resist on both of the quests's end targets. Freeport faction improvement IS needed for a DE agnostic enchanter, but Janam and Rebby and 2 hours took care of that for me.

All the work done, I had what was needed for full banded armor, my spells, and a decent 200-300 pp weapon for the character I wanted to keep leveling.

I'd rather set my pubic hairs on fire before I'd ever pay someone real money for game currency, ever.

Props man, great strategy and smart playing!

[Tsenor]

Tough way to learn the rules I suppose. Either way sounds like you were enjoying playing and earning your gear after that first RMT. So start up a new character and screw what everyone else has and just be proud of what you earned on that toon. If your dead set on getting your banned character back, your better off not saying anything on the forums and waiting 6 months and posting in the appropriate part of the forum..petition forum maybe. It still may not happen but If it does you should delete the items you originally RMT'd

Rerolled... thank you for being supportive

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

I'd rather set my pubic hairs on fire before I'd ever pay someone real money for game currency, ever.

gamer

[fastboy21]

i'd rather set your pubic hairs on fire than pay someone real money for currency also.

[Estolcles]

I'm someone else who'd rather set NegaStoat's pubic hairs on fire than pay real money for plat as well.

[amos]

Don't feel bad, my 3 accounts were banned today, and I've never taken place in RMT.

[Langrisser]

Plat = happiness is debatable
Being a noob is the happiest I ever was in this game

RMT = Plat is debatable
Can buy items or accounts

Plat = MQ is debatable
Guildies, friend, or nice people can assist with MQs for free

yea i fail to see you denying it... and you know about this thing called greed right... human condition etc?

just because there are alternatives doesnt mean that the route people choose isnt obvious and exploitable... called the path of least resistance.

better a thousand innocent men get fucked then one guilty person get through. this isnt the Real World this is a game with arbitrary and changeable rules and conditions.

yes, bad things dont always happen. thanks for insight. here, they pretty much do if you give people the chance... which is what is happening.

VALUABLES UNSECURED.

[Tiggles]

RMT hurts everyone.

[smoflow]

roll druid make 20k in 4 days porting for tips, win game

[Sarius]

yea i fail to see you denying it... and you know about this thing called greed right... human condition etc?

just because there are alternatives doesnt mean that the route people choose isnt obvious and exploitable... called the path of least resistance.

better a thousand innocent men get fucked then one guilty person get through. this isnt the Real World this is a game with arbitrary and changeable rules and conditions.

yes, bad things dont always happen. thanks for insight. here, they pretty much do if you give people the chance... which is what is happening.

VALUABLES UNSECURED.

You belong with the rest of the half wits in RnF. You really fail to make any cohesive point, and your posts are nothing more than diarrhea that flows from your fingers. Go wash your keyboard, bro.

[fastboy21]

You belong with the rest of the half wits in RnF. You really fail to make any cohesive point, and your posts are nothing more than diarrhea that flows from your fingers. Go wash your keyboard, bro.

Oh snap.

[NegaStoat]

Rerolled... thank you for being supportive

You made the right move. Glad to see you're givin' it another try.

[Langrisser]

You belong with the rest of the half wits in RnF. You really fail to make any cohesive point, and your posts are nothing more than diarrhea that flows from your fingers. Go wash your keyboard, bro.

no thx brew it just got the right stickiness going on.. every time i read your posts it gets a little stickier.

sorry you're one of the real dumb ones who says things like the world is flat. its cool, people are used to it. youre a dying breed.

RMT is like AIDS cept no one got to fuck a monkey. sad face.

ps fuck yo face :D

[fastboy21]

RMT is like AIDS cept no one got to fuck a monkey. sad face.



Oh those wacky kids with their lingo...

[Bantam 1]

yea i fail to see you denying it... and you know about this thing called greed right... human condition etc?

just because there are alternatives doesnt mean that the route people choose isnt obvious and exploitable... called the path of least resistance.

better a thousand innocent men get fucked then one guilty person get through. this isnt the Real World this is a game with arbitrary and changeable rules and conditions.

yes, bad things dont always happen. thanks for insight. here, they pretty much do if you give people the chance... which is what is happening.

VALUABLES UNSECURED.


Newsflash - Barely coherent does not make you smart.

[Mattius]

I feel no pity.

I feel no platinum

[Langrisser]

Newsflash - Barely coherent does not make you smart.

neither does pithy comments and lack of reading comprehension.

you the type of person that pretends they dont understand accents when really you're just an asshole :)

[Langrisser]

here is some reading for you, it is brief but i suspect you can do it.

Reischauer: "The cooperative, relativistic Japanese is not thought of as the bland product of a social conditioning that has worn off all individualistic corners, but rather as the product of firm inner self-control that has made him master of his... anti-social instincts... Social conformity... is no sign of weakness but rather the proud, tempered product of inner strength." This mastery is achieved by overcoming hardship, through self-discipline, and through personal striving for a perfection that one knows is not possible but remains a worthy goal."


you think thats air you're neckbearding, einstein... im so smart its coming out my ears

[Laledorie]

I didn't read through this entire thread but I just wanted to say, I'm very new to P99. Just started a couple of weeks ago and I'm only level 22... I find it hard to believe that you made it to level 44 without hearing somewhere that RMT was against the rules. It's posted everywhere, when people do talk about it in game it's to say that it's against the rules. Either way, it sucks that you lost your account. The law is hard, but it is the law.

[idontbuff]

Buying plat has been a big 'no-no' in almost every MMO since the dawn of times... Maybe this guy (and some of the others) just have really low IQs.

[Kevynne]

another reason why red is good, RMT basically nonexistent

Ha. That was cute.
Runed mithril tunics everywhere on red99

[Langrisser]

Hey Sarius, ever hear this?

"No more things should be presumed to exist than are absolutely necessary."

you mother fuckers giving the benefit of the doubt to RMT lovers are really dumb. the scary, republican kind.

if you cant hang with occam, maybe carlin will get you to stfu

"Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience."

either way you cut it, im going to win ... either by being an idiot like you say, or by using logic.

did i say win? i meant annoy you.

WINNING

[Toxicboy123]

I was banned today also , for accepting plat from a friend who then apparently bought it from this Plat lord guy. or atleast thats the story Ephi is taking. and i had no knownledge of this platlord guy. i think these punishments need to be changed :/ ill gladly take a wipe to my gear and rebuild the gear over having to re-put a week of playing into getting to level 26 :/

[Ephirith]

Nice work GMs

[Langrisser]

no, kill the innocent here. its the only way. then people will think twice before MQing for huge sums of money that they know have RMT origins... or suspect... instead of greeding out.

ban them all and let their knowledge of ip spoofing sort them out.

you and your friend wont be missed

[Toxicboy123]

no, kill the innocent here. its the only way. then people will think twice before MQing for huge sums of money that they know have RMT origins... or suspect... instead of greeding out.

ban them all and let their knowledge of ip spoofing sort them out.

you and your friend wont be missed

i didnt even do anything and you think i did something.

I have nothing to hide i never RMTd.

A friend wanted to give me Plat to help me get started.

[Langrisser]

you're scum and you know you're scum. scum associates with scum!

just kidding, tough break man... now you see why RMT hurts everyone, and the abundance of plat being used for everything means RMT is a temptation to "win" ... some people dont get that, but its pretty obvious.

[Toxicboy123]

you're scum and you know you're scum. scum associates with scum!

just kidding, tough break man... now you see why RMT hurts everyone, and the abundance of plat being used for everything means RMT is a temptation to "win" ... some people dont get that, but its pretty obvious.

i just really wanna play my druid again!

I really loved this server !

[justin2090]

Players get banned but platlord is still unbanned? Something needs to change here. How hard could it be to banned the distributors when only 1000 people play on the server? In the op's case, I vote gear strip. Eff starting all over. Maybe do a perma ban on the second offense.

Besides, loosing RL money invested in gear should be punishment enough. Player punishment and distributor punishment should not be equal. If i go buy 20 bucks worth of weed and get caught, the punishment a lot less severe than if the supplier got caught.

[fastboy21]

pretty sure the suppliers, including platlord, have lost thousands of dollars of virtual stock...not to mention that with every round of bann hammers it is harder for them to convince players to trust their service. i'm certain that platlord is hurting from Ephi's efforts...other RMTers might have a temporary gain of the market with his loss, but even they hurt when Ephi drops banns.

at server launch i think i recall RMTers getting a suspension before bann, but too many of them would just go right back to RMTing that it was just changed to an outright perma bann (which has been the published rule for a long time now). i don't see how you can give some folks a break and then bann others just because you have sympathy for them. if the rule is perma ban for the RMTing account then thats what they should enforce imo.

if they bend the rules for one person they need to do it for everyone in the same situation or it would be even worse.

[SamwiseRed]

i just really wanna play my druid again!

I really loved this server !

i feel like you are talking to anakin as he lay dying and on fire.

[Lorraine]

Not to rain on your parade, but ignorance of the rules or even the existence of the P99 forums is hardly any excuse - When you read about it daily and time and time again, when you log into the game. It's in the [Message of the Day] with those annoying yellow letters...

[Vaildez]

I am glad these bans are happening...As a new player I have never been turned down for a group for not being geared or ever heard anyone talking about RMT not negatively.

[Frogie305]

no, kill the innocent here. its the only way. then people will think twice before MQing for huge sums of money that they know have RMT origins... or suspect... instead of greeding out.

ban them all and let their knowledge of ip spoofing sort them out.

you and your friend wont be missed

How should we go about selling an item now? how will we know if we are selling a fungi tunic to someone that is a legit player? You know how many traders there are that are level one! Should i start a series of questions everytime i plan to sell an item? WTS Fungi tunic PST with Mains name, how you aqquired said plat step by step to insure i do not get banned.

[Gadwen]

RMT (unless through an in game store) is against the rules in every MMORPG. I really find it hard to believe that anyone would think that this server was any different.

What OP probably means is he didn't think that people actually got banned for RMT.

[timhutton]

Truth be told, I am one of the few who geniunely feels bad for new players who are not aware of the rules (be it through ignorance or whatever).

But, rules are rules. The very experience that players come to relive owes itself to the policies and procedures of the server and the maintainers who created them.



*cough cough* ;)

Why is everyone ragging on OP so hard, dude seems honest and legit and isn't flaming or blaming anyone else, just saying peace to some of his pals and wishing that other new players don't make the same mistake as he did.

As prevelant as RMT is in modern MMOs and as lax as policing it is I would think it would be a pretty easy to make the same mistake.

Take care OP, take it as a lesson to always read rules! :)

[timhutton]

RMT (unless through an in game store) is against the rules in every MMORPG. I really find it hard to believe that anyone would think that this server was any different.

What OP probably means is he didn't think that people actually got banned for RMT.

Pretty much this.. it may be against the "rules" in modern MMOs but nobody actually gives a shit.

[porigromus]

I wish there was a way to permanently get rid of RMT in MMOs. Unfortunately I am unable to think of a way. Even with the strictest no drop rules, I imagine someone would find a way to cheat.

It is unfortunate that people feel they need to pay someone else to play the game for them they are here to play for entertainment. Why not bother and just don't play at all? It is called a "game" for a reason. If it is no longer fun and entertaining just walk away.

What can you do? Make every piece of gear is no drop, that will rot upon kill in a few minutes? I imagine you will see someone paying to be two boxed with "Platlord" camping an item for them while in his group. Or the "Platlord" scum of the world will start selling characters that have items on them.

The "Platlords" of the world don't care about your game. This revenue for them, a business. YOU who buy plat are hurting the game you want to be a part of.

[Raavak]

Wait. Buying drugs from guys on the street is illegal?

The next thing you're going to say is paying a chick to sleep with you could put you in jail.

[SamwiseRed]

platlord@hotmail.com

sounds legit.

[Gadwen]

It is unfortunate that people feel they need to pay someone else to play the game for them they are here to play for entertainment. Why not bother and just don't play at all? It is called a "game" for a reason. If it is no longer fun and entertaining just walk away.

I don't feel bad for "new players" that get banned for RMT because they got banned. I feel bad for them because they shit all over their own EQ experience. I had a ton of fun starting off here for the first time, looting almost all my gear and scrounging for spells and looking for ways to make money. That was the EQ experience that I wanted to have again, and I can't believe that so many people are willing to give that up so they can "catch up"...to who? Is this a race?

[Swish]

Why Sandows? wasn't the gear I loaded you up with sufficient ? I suppose more fool me for sinking 1-2k on random new players to help them out.

"There is a sufficiency in the world for man's need but not for man's greed"

This is the real tragedy, he was already getting help from the community.

[Langrisser]

How should we go about selling an item now?

oh you tease... how ever shall you... let me count the plats...

[Boone]

What I don't understand from anyone who does RMT is; why? Do you really want a game to be that easy? If you do, what the hell is the point of playing it in the first place?

Like seriously.

[Atmas]

Mixed feelings about the OP's post. Aside from even my personal thoughts that RMT inherently defeats the purpose of the game, I really find it hard to believe that someone played that long and didn't know it was a perma ban offense. I feel like even if you had your head in the sand you would ask people about buying from some official source before you turned to some shady guy like platlord and learn it was illegal along the way.

On a side note I think it may be possible for someone who wasn't trying to do RMT and played casually, and didn't read the forums to not know. I think last night I actually went to check if it was in the getting started rules and didn't see it but it appears to be there this morning, and the last edited timestamp is today. So its conceivable if a friend helped you get setup or you just read the instructions real quick you might not know. But still, by the time you go investigating to buy plat you would definitely be aware.

[Swish]

What I don't understand from anyone who does RMT is; why? Do you really want a game to be that easy? If you do, what the hell is the point of playing it in the first place?

Like seriously.

[Strifer]

Why Sandows? wasn't the gear I loaded you up with sufficient ? I suppose more fool me for sinking 1-2k on random new players to help them out.

"There is a sufficiency in the world for man's need but not for man's greed"

I kinda had a small amount of sympathy until I read this. Now I just think you're kind of a turdbucket and glad you got banned.

I dont have any clue on how rmt works but if you have any sort of information on whos doing it or something you should at least man up and tell the admins, that way we can get one step closer to preventing crap like this from happening. This isn't some cartel thats going to hurt you because you spilled the beans on an RMT deal, it's the right thing to do if you are in a position of having any information.

[xnolanx]

This isn't some cartel thats going to hurt you because you spilled the beans on an RMT deal, it's the right thing to do if you are in a position of having any information.

[Gadwen]

I kinda had a small amount of sympathy until I read this. Now I just think you're kind of a turdbucket and glad you got banned.

I dont have any clue on how rmt works but if you have any sort of information on whos doing it or something you should at least man up and tell the admins, that way we can get one step closer to preventing crap like this from happening. This isn't some cartel thats going to hurt you because you spilled the beans on an RMT deal, it's the right thing to do if you are in a position of having any information.

The staff knows exactly who OP bought his plat from, that is how they banned him.

[Vaildez]

RMT ruined MMO's... Once they realized people would fork over money to avoid time sinks that put monthly subs in the grave.

[lecompte]

Well, folks who had their accounts banned for RMT (I don't see anyone denying they did it), it was a harsh lesson and one that will be remembered. I hope to see you guys around p99 after the sting of losing all that time and effort in leveling your characters up lessens.

If ya'll are still playing, I'd use a different forum name for your new characters because RMT carries quite the stigma, least among the troll community.

[justin2090]

Wait. Buying drugs from guys on the street is illegal?

The next thing you're going to say is paying a chick to sleep with you could put you in jail.

Think you missed the point here. Read harder next time.

[Bantam 1]

RMT is an issue partly because of the community (which no one wants to admit). When you trash a tank because he has shit gear, rogue is trashed because he's not twinked or a guy actually sits outside a group and says get rid of Bob and take me I'll do more damage because I'm twinked; you've created a peer pressure situation.

It makes people just feel bad.

Then they come to the forums and say "What do I do?" and then people tell them make xyz class for your first class... then you can farm up to twink up the class you really want to play.

So I'm going to take a shot that this game as a lot of folks who can't play nearly as much as they used to and you've told them... hey spend crap loads of time and then you'll get to have fun and play what you really want to play. Let's not even get into the funny business that happens at any cash camp.


Or you can just pay some money (because you have a lot more money than time at this stage of your life) and skip to step 3 and have fun.

If you can't see why its attractive or "don't get it" you're lying to yourself or just stupid.

Me? I'm hoping beyond hope that I love a shaman at end game and don't have a step 2 and 3.



PS - this is helped by the people assisting new players, but how many newbies are actually getting help?

[timhutton]

RMT is an issue because this is 2013.

It's what people do, have been doing for 15+ years, and will always do. You essentially have 2 real options:

1. Acknowledge it, don't care
2. Acknowledge it, care

You can debate intracasies and circle-jerk to the convo all you want but at the end of the day you still only have just 2 options and it's not nearly as complex as nefarious as some people wish it were (for some reason)

EDIT: I should add to this post that I don't think it's any worse on P99 than it is on any other MMO in the world, I just feel it receives a lot more attention here due to the way serverstaff handle it and the small tight-knit community. It also doesn't help that every single time someone is banned for it a 40 page monster thread pops-up where people sit and try to understand what is so wrong with the world today.

[mtb tripper]

buying drugs from dante is illegal??

fuck man i need to find a new vice.

[Gadwen]

RMT is an issue partly because of the community (which no one wants to admit). When you trash a tank because he has shit gear, rogue is trashed because he's not twinked or a guy actually sits outside a group and says get rid of Bob and take me I'll do more damage because I'm twinked; you've created a peer pressure situation.

It makes people just feel bad.

Then they come to the forums and say "What do I do?" and then people tell them make xyz class for your first class... then you can farm up to twink up the class you really want to play.

So I'm going to take a shot that this game as a lot of folks who can't play nearly as much as they used to and you've told them... hey spend crap loads of time and then you'll get to have fun and play what you really want to play. Let's not even get into the funny business that happens at any cash camp.


Or you can just pay some money (because you have a lot more money than time at this stage of your life) and skip to step 3 and have fun.

If you can't see why its attractive or "don't get it" you're lying to yourself or just stupid.

Me? I'm hoping beyond hope that I love a shaman at end game and don't have a step 2 and 3.



PS - this is helped by the people assisting new players, but how many newbies are actually getting help?

It's not as if there is a skid row in Kelethin where all the newbies who absolutely cannot play because they don't have awesome twink gear are forced to hang out and beg because they have nothing else to do.

Giving away free gear isn't the best way to help new players enjoy the game IMO. The quest for better gear is a massive part of the progression in this game for all classes, and the majority of it for melees. Giving someone stuff that they will use for 30 levels takes a lot of fun out of the game.

Yeah I know, there are some people who just want to be awesome and will take any shortcut to getting there. But on a lot of levels I really don't understand the mentality of playing classic EQ with the intention of racing to max level as fast as possible and treating the entire processes as a chore that you can buy your way out of...it really does defeat the purpose of playing this game.

EQ is one of the few MMORPGs where leveling up and obtaining gear is actually fun and rewarding...why cheat yourself out of that and take on a race to end game and BiS gear modern MMO mentality. There are hundreds if not thousands of games that will better cater to that play style.

On another note, it is your fault for listening to all the min-maxers who insist that no melee be played without a few hundred K to spend on twinking them. In every "what should I play" thread there are plenty of people telling those players to just play whatever they want.

[Bantam 1]

It's not as if there is a skid row in Kelethin where all the newbies who absolutely cannot play because they don't have awesome twink gear are forced to hang out and beg because they have nothing else to do.

Giving away free gear isn't the best way to help new players enjoy the game IMO. The quest for better gear is a massive part of the progression in this game for all classes, and the majority of it for melees. Giving someone stuff that they will use for 30 levels takes a lot of fun out of the game.

Yeah I know, there are some people who just want to be awesome and will take any shortcut to getting there. But on a lot of levels I really don't understand the mentality of playing classic EQ with the intention of racing to max level as fast as possible and treating the entire processes as a chore that you can buy your way out of...it really does defeat the purpose of playing this game.

EQ is one of the few MMORPGs where leveling up and obtaining gear is actually fun and rewarding...why cheat yourself out of that and take on a race to end game and BiS gear modern MMO mentality. There are hundreds if not thousands of games that will better cater to that play style.

On another note, it is your fault for listening to all the min-maxers who insist that no melee be played without a few hundred K to spend on twinking them. In every "what should I play" thread there are plenty of people telling those players to just play whatever they want.

Gadwin believe it or not in a game that requires grouping ... play whatever you like doesn't really fly. Otherwise there'd be a lot more rangers & palies (there were tons during live at this same period). All you need is 1 or 2 dudes in a group who are min maxers... and now you got an issue.

I get what you're saying, but its a happy path scenario.

[Trebeh]

It's not as if there is a skid row in Kelethin where all the newbies who absolutely cannot play because they don't have awesome twink gear are forced to hang out and beg because they have nothing else to do.

Giving away free gear isn't the best way to help new players enjoy the game IMO. The quest for better gear is a massive part of the progression in this game for all classes, and the majority of it for melees. Giving someone stuff that they will use for 30 levels takes a lot of fun out of the game.

Yeah I know, there are some people who just want to be awesome and will take any shortcut to getting there. But on a lot of levels I really don't understand the mentality of playing classic EQ with the intention of racing to max level as fast as possible and treating the entire processes as a chore that you can buy your way out of...it really does defeat the purpose of playing this game.

EQ is one of the few MMORPGs where leveling up and obtaining gear is actually fun and rewarding...why cheat yourself out of that and take on a race to end game and BiS gear modern MMO mentality. There are hundreds if not thousands of games that will better cater to that play style.

On another note, it is your fault for listening to all the min-maxers who insist that no melee be played without a few hundred K to spend on twinking them. In every "what should I play" thread there are plenty of people telling those players to just play whatever they want.

TOTALY AGREE

[melkortshea]

i just want my account back. believe it or not i did put a lot of work into getting where i was and it had nothing to do with the plat i bought.

This type of attitude is what pisses me off. Some dude saying "The Plat I bought didn't make my life any easier I worked hard blah blah blah"

My main is lvl 17 and I am still wearing all cloth from Black burrow. I got a Stein of Moggok from spending a whole night running all over Norrath and a crude stein along with an earing from kind hearted players. I had to spend a whole night farming the same 3 bandits in Lfay which were crap EXP just so I could get 60pp worth of bronze off of them in order to pay for my spells.

Now I am not complaining because that is the classic EQ experience I have signed up for and it also makes you really appreciate when someone in the community steps up to help you. Don't try and tell me that the infused amount of Plat you bought yourself did not save you from having to trade off being in decent EXP groups just so you can scrounge enough cash to buy a spell you need.

Fact is you came here for classic EQ and then took the easy way and to say that the plat you bought didn't give you an edge is a slap in the face of us broke honest players. It's also people like you who cause the current view of frowning upon the none twinked players when in reality its those of us who make due with nothing and still manage to play well and survive in this game that learn our class better than most.

Play that rerolled character honestly and then try and come back here and say that plat you used to cheat with did make your life easier. I have a feeling you will see things differently.

[Nikon]

FWIW, You all must run in to some real wicked assholes. I leveled two characters on this server to the mid 40's and early 50's from scratch with no twinking (besides Zilo randomly helped me get a tainted bastard sword early on my SK) and not once did anyone ever complain to me about my gear or deny me a group because of my lack thereof. And that's even with the first scratch character being a tank! If someone is giving you shit about your gear, it's most likely just one person, and they are either a full-time p99 player-elitist, or is just really desperate to try to boost their own self-esteem by putting you down. In that case you need to toughen up and brush it off.

[melkortshea]

Actually Nikon if that was in reference to that sentence in my post then please don't get me wrong.

One thing about P99 is that the community is far nicer than any I have ever witnessed on a live server.

Yes there are some real Assholes out there but they are few and far between and I suppose I just like to lump those people who are so materialistic about their gear with those who tend to get that gear at whatever real life cost.

I just get pissed when I hear someone who paid money to give themselves an edge try and say that the items and plat they bought didn't really make all that much of a difference in helping them progress, when its obvious as a person who has had to trade EXP leveling verses scrounging for loot to buy spells let alone gear that they certainly took the easy road and fail to acknowledge it.

So I certainly agree with you that aside from those who choose to cheat this server is populated with some awesome people.

The up side is that's its very clear that the staff is putting in their free volunteered time to reduce the server of said cheaters.

[Nikon]

Actually Nikon if that was in reference to that sentence in my post then please don't get me wrong.

Not necessarily your post. I've just been seeing it more and more. Sounds like forum trolls perfecting the art in-game and I don't see it as a legitimate excuse to buy plat.

[Reapin]

Lecompte helped me out when I first started. He gave me 100 pp to gear up. I got disgusted with the greedy twinks and sold everything I bought and gave him back more than he gave (I am a good investment). When I gave the server a second Chance, Pringles gave me 300pp which I have turned into almost 50k worth of items on all my characters. I don't have the best gear, but I am content with what I have and feel I am an asset to any group I join.

Don't get caught up with what others have. Just play and be patient. Riches will come eventually and you will like it better knowing you earned it.

[Jeffari]

I didn't fool you Sebekkha. I was a total noob to the server when you helped me and at that point hadn't heard a peep about RMT. Don't think I heard anyone mention it until I was in my 20's.

Indeed as a low lvl on this server was "twinked' by nice players such as yourself (Sebekhha) along the way, but when I got to my 40's my gear was generally below that of players i was trying to group with and it made it hard to get groups.

As I said I had the experience of grouping with multiple guys (who would still be playing weeks after mentioning RMT) who would say "I need to buy some PP from platlord to get a FBSs, etc."

Hold up, so this guy was given 1-2k in plat or items as low level starting out "newb," leveled to the 40's and still couldn't figure out how to make his own money and his own way? Seriously is this game just too hard for some people?

[Gadwen]

Gadwin believe it or not in a game that requires grouping ... play whatever you like doesn't really fly. Otherwise there'd be a lot more rangers & palies (there were tons during live at this same period). All you need is 1 or 2 dudes in a group who are min maxers... and now you got an issue.

I get what you're saying, but its a happy path scenario.

Play whatever you want always flies, I don't think I am alone here when I say that I would rather play a class that I love and have a harder time finding groups than play one I hate and get groups all the time.

In how that relates to gear, at lower levels I have never been part of a group that refused to let someone join because they weren't twinked. I think that everyone understands that first time players aren't going to have insane gear and most of us have been in that same spot ourselves.

By the time someone reaches the point where they will need good gear to get groups or to raid they are definitely capable of making their own way in Norrath, regardless of what class they play. Be it tunnel ratting, farming low level cash mobs, or going to decent camps with guildies and friends you made along the way. Yeah I know, those things aren't always super fun. But like I said before it gives you a sense of accomplishment that can't be bought or found in other games.

[Adolphus]

Been on the server for 3+ years, level'd a bunch of toons. Never once have I heard anyone suggest or even mention RMT.

I once had a guy elude to the fact that he might have used RMT at some point. But even he didn't have the balls to say it outright - and he was a friend.

I don't believe this guy for a second. Keep him banned. Keep them all banned. Don't fall for this psychological warfare, GM's!

[Champion_Standing]

I guess a lot of people probably already know RMT is a bannable offense, I didn't...again I guess that is my own fault for being ignorant/not being on the forums all the time. I just relied on information from players in the game....you know kind of like back in P1999.
K

You mean...never reading the rules even once.

You don't need to be a lvl 60 forumquester to know that RMT is against the rules......no sympathy from me.

[vans19]

Omg I grouped with me in CoM a days ago... I feel sorry to learn that he got banned.

[Loftus]

Now I really don't understand...if you only lost a few days of playing then whats all the hubbub about? Consider yourself lucky that you learned the rules today (and only lost a few days) instead of the ban coming a few months from now...

Just reroll and don't RMT. You can make up that loss easy.

^ This.

So if you played for 4 calendar days, STFU and reroll and stop creating this unwarranted drama. You are lying and getting caught.

[Clark]

Yup hear this all the time. oh wait, no you don't.

lol

[Sebekkha]

Just FYI, I merely gave him a suit of Flayed Skin Armour, and a Mithril Two-Handed Sword. but that's besides the point.

[LordSterben]

After reading all of this, my feelings toward cheating are even more solidified.

If you RMT, buy powerleveling, or buy an account, you aren't actually playing the game....so why bother playing at all? Do you feel pride when you're wearing gear that you bought by cheating? Do you feel good about playing a high level character that you didn't level? Where's the joy in that? Where's the sense of accomplishment?

There's fifty other games out there with shops that you can RMT gear and levels. Why do you pick the one challenging game still standing -beloved because it is difficult- and then power level through it or buy twink gear to bypass much of what makes EQ what it is? It makes no fucking sense.

Its like when I worked a classic car race in Daytona a few years back and a guy showed up with a 'stock' 65 mustang that actually had a Winston cup motor and a fiberglass body. Sure, he was much much faster than everyone else but he couldn't win any points in the races and he looked like a complete asshat to anyone who knew what he was running.

[lecompte]

Lecompte helped me out when I first started. He gave me 100 pp to gear up. I got disgusted with the greedy twinks and sold everything I bought and gave him back more than he gave (I am a good investment).

Another person (16 warrior) I gave like 1k of gear to was quitting because his friends quit playing and returned me 1k, 2 lammies and some other items that I have since given away. I think I geared one ogre sk and one or two rangers. Hybrid love.

[SCB]

There's fifty other games out there with shops that you can RMT gear and levels. Why do you pick the one challenging game still standing...


I don't know where this thought process comes from but you cannot buy power in the overwhelming majority of today's MMO's. This is true about nearly every western MMO (certainly every western MMO I can think of).

Rift, WoW, EQ, EQ2, Wizardy Online, TSW, SW:TOR, etc do not support RMT for currency (bannable offense) and do not allow you to purchase power with cash shops. There is no way in hell the OP got the idea that it is OK to buy pp with real-world currency from playing modern MMOs. Shit gets you banned there too, if they catch you.

[LordSterben]

There's plenty of games where you can buy gear, potions, and items that make the game easy mode. The point I was making is that if that's how you want to play, then why not play one of those games instead of cheating on this one?

[Wotsirb401]

Just to the few of you out there who knew me well enough from grouping, etc. My account was banned for RMT, in retrospect I feel like an idiot for not trying to find out if it was against the rules or not. (I legitimately didnt know) I had multiple other players I grouped with along the way tell me about Platlord and figured...well if other people in game are doing it, why can't I.....it must be ok.

I bought 15k (twice) and twinked a lowbie rogue and got some gear for myself...I finally wasnt the only twink in groups. I had no interest in doing any more RMT, no reason to go crazy but for once I felt I wasn't undergeared in every group I was in.

I guess a lot of people probably already know RMT is a bannable offense, I didn't...again I guess that is my own fault for being ignorant/not being on the forums all the time. I just relied on information from players in the game....you know kind of like back in P1999.

Just wanted to say goodbye to those of you I shared good times with, I don't have enough time to think about leveling up another character from scratch after already doing it once. I am really going to miss this game, I hope this saves someone else from doing what I did.

-Sandows 44 SK

I hate to this happen, if you decide to come back, i wouldnt mind throwing you a few thousand plat, and maybe a plevel or 2 .

[SCB]

There's plenty of games where you can buy gear, potions, and items that make the game easy mode. The point I was making is that if that's how you want to play, then why not play one of those games instead of cheating on this one?

You're not the only person who has expressed similar beliefs. It's a common thread around here. People think F2P games mean you can drop cash and have a maxed-out character, and that's the opposite of true because that would destroy their entire business model.

It's also a cop-out excuse used by people like the OP who cheat in other MMOs and don't get caught because the systems aren't in place to police them the way they are here.