How difficult would teams be to code?

[Faerie]

Anyone that has worked with this sort of thing?

How difficult would it be to code in:

Softcoded race-based teams
Hardcoded race-based teams
Softcoded deity-based teams
Hardcoded deity-based teams
New Race/class/deity combinations
Ability for players to switch between teams
Nametag colors representing team
Custom teams rules (one team allowed to attack their own, basically FFA for one team; crossteaming between certain teams but not others; etc.)
Ability for devs to disallow character creation on certain teams
Ability for devs apply incentives to certain teams (increased exp rate; etc.)
Item loot
FV no drop rules
Custom items able to be looted from enemy player corpse killed in pvp

And anything else you can think of? I'd just like to know what is impossible, what is easy and what is difficult when it comes to coding these things in.

[Ebony]

I think these are all Great things to find out about if anyone knows.

A race-based Teams server would be a LOT easier to set up then a deity-based Teams server I would think.

The deity setup is a complete disaster for Teams because a Balanced Teams PVP server (or ANY PVP server) was NEVER on the Devs mind when they were passing out deities to every race class combo. If you don't want a huge mess, you'd have to look at every race class combo & make changes to where each Team was actually close to balanced.

For a Race-based Teams PVP server you'd just say These 4 races Evil, These 4 races Good, These 4 races Neut & Humans can join every Team. It's WAY easier to Balance & a lot less work I would think.

"Nametag colors representing teams" I SO WANT THIS AGAIN!! :D

[Nirgon]

Let's try to convince them to work on teams before mechanical fixes

[Faerie]

Let's try to convince them to work on teams before mechanical fixes

No one is asking for this, Nirgon. Stop being so negative.

It's pretty obvious that teams is still in the planning phases.

[mtb tripper]

forget it

[Colgate]

fuck teams

[Nirgon]

I'm not being negative, just saying lets make a teams server with the same pvp code this one has. It is a really good idea. I'm also asking you to read those articles.

[SamwiseRed]

been saying teams since day 1. these ffa tards dont even know. no offense pals but this ruleset is pretty shitty. i know its been the standard since vztz or w/e box you previously played but nope.avi

to OP, and no offense to staff, but look how long it took to get shit fixed on red. kithicor was down for almost half a year. i think, in order for their to truely be a hard coded teams server, we would need a dedicated developer for a good 6 months to a year, then someone who can make a few changes here and there every few months. not only to implement teams but to fix broken stuff after server launch and during beta. if i had any idea on how to do this, i would in a heartbeat. numerous times ive considered trying but i dont wanna bite off more than i can chew. i wouldnt know where to start besides setting up a stock emu server. from there i have no idea how to make code changes or whatnot. wish i did, maybe one day.

[Nirgon]

If people respected teams, it could be fun. Don't get me wrong.

But let's consider who we're dealing with here.

Pixels > integrity or fun for anyone

[SamwiseRed]

fuck it installing sql, perl, and emu source now. i have no fucking idea what im doing.

[Ebony]

fuck it installing sql, perl, and emu source now. i have no fucking idea what im doing.

I'm in the EXACT same boat as you Sam! As soon as I get the chance I'm going to try this too lol :D

[SamwiseRed]

lul i need to reformat this piece of shit. i have have 4 partitions all retardedly allocated. ermg what the fuck need a clean win 7 copy.

[runlvlzero]

How difficult would it be to fix the current bugs and pathing?

P.S. Guy who use to run server and does programming for a living having a hard time getting most recent PEQ from git to work right over network. It's not ez... poorly documented code, bad errors, and logging, and horribad no-comment patched code.

Good luck getting it to even compile Sam.

[SamwiseRed]

hehe if not ill put pvp teams in a browser.

[Potus]

been saying teams since day 1. these ffa tards dont even know. no offense pals but this ruleset is pretty shitty.

I agree. Teams are the best and should be any new server/wipe/whatever.

[Tomato King6]

fuck it installing sql, perl, and emu source now. i have no fucking idea what im doing.

lol @ This

[mtb tripper]

confound it

[Tomato King6]

hi mtb

[mtb tripper]

hi tomato

[SamwiseRed]

steaks halp me

[mtb tripper]

speaking of steaks, what is his latest forum account?

[SamwiseRed]

you're talking to it lol.

[Tomato King6]

hi im steaks , although steaks was only played for about 2 weeks, it seems to be my adopted name

however

I prefer tomatoking.

[STILLnotMORNIN]

Sirken troll running deep

[SamwiseRed]

hi im steaks , although steaks was only played for about 2 weeks, it seems to be my adopted name

however

I prefer tomatoking.

really? i dunno why but steaks fits you better. i will try my best to call you tomato now.

[mtb tripper]

yeah i prefer steaks, its much more classic

[Faerie]

I'm not being negative, just saying lets make a teams server with the same pvp code this one has. It is a really good idea. I'm also asking you to read those articles.

By articles, do you mean those forum threads you posted in the locked thread? If so, then I don't have to read them because I was there :P

I leveled to above 55 in Illuvitae, the biggest Kunark/Velious elf team guild. At the time, the server was largely (not entirely) leaning toward being elf/short/human vs dark, and I lost count of the times "lighty" guild high elf clerics would immy heal against us. It was frustrating and unfair, but looking back, I loved it. It really helped to give me a sense of in-game purpose; a reason to continue fighting. They felt they had to cheat to defeat us, but we didn't give up. Eventually it led to a guildwar between us and an elf-only guild (Elven Royal Guard) that allied itself with shorts/humans. Was one of the most epic and buggy things to occur in an MMO, I'm sure :)

The softcoded teams really allowed for some crazy and unique experiences, and I'm so glad I got to experience them. Softcoded teams applied here would just result in FFA pvp, but with %r hotkeys.

Hardcoded teams eliminate all of the problems you're talking about, and they're what's really needed on our server.

[Nirgon]

I fail to see where any problems are solved rather than created in that situation. Sirken with an admirable troll tho. Didn't get me.

[Faerie]

I fail to see where any problems are solved rather than created in that situation. Sirken with an admirable troll tho. Didn't get me.

Not sure which situation you're talking about. You don't seem to understand that teams can be hardcoded.

[Tomato King6]

by who? faerie no one gives a fuck.

Why don't you learn to code ?

Oh shit that's right you are a dumbass like everyone else on the forum that asks staff to do stuff then they just ignore you and don't even read your gibberish.