Sirken so wise, except with Red

[Stasis01]

the idea (and i could be wrong, Rogean please correct me if i am) is that if the variance is shortened it will increase the # of players poopsocking.

whereas, with the variance having a chance to reset, players are less likely to poopsock knowing it could be 6 hrs up to 30hrs until pop.

ultimately it's up to the players to decide how they wish to spend their time, you will always have guilds using trackers, but i expect to see a lot less of 100 people on VS or on trak or on any other raid mob spawn spot, because it adds a higher sense of randomness to when the pop will happen

<3

How about the non-randomness of one guild taking every single raid mob since box release, where the top guild can log on their entire raid once a week to drop every dragon.

There's always been a top guild, there hasn't ever been this.

[heartbrand]

What don't you get? There were 30 nihilum members on stand by last night at 2am for a potential server reset. You think variance is going to help the 7 classic members kill dragons so they can bank vox horns? If anything variance will only ensure that nihilum never loses. a Mob. All variance does is grief nihilum by making the game unenjoyable to play. They have games where everyone gets a shot at raid mobs, Warcraft is a lot of fun I recommend you try out mists of pandaria with me.

[Sirken]

There's always been a top guild, there hasn't ever been this.
you clearly never heard of Tallon Zek on live, it was the same thing with <Pandemonium>. Another guild that was able to easily sit on the top forever and never had to deal with competition.

honestly i feel bad for the old TZ players, you guys missed out.

[Stasis01]

It ensures that you can't log off for 6 days(minus the 3 days/Sky) and get 100% of the raid loot, which most Nihilum do.

My last reply to you HB pal don't need essay wars pal.

[Colgate]

i do not see 95% of nihilum members online except for on whatever their raid day is(usually sunday)

[Stasis01]

I actually played TZ as Gaanon/Bamzal/Amuk at different times, and it was nothing like this with one guild logging in for a few hours to gank every raid mob.

FOI alone could get raid mobs at off times, whether that was due to PDM not caring or variance, who knows. I do know that the top top raid mobs were left up most of the time due to noone being able to actually do them - I was in PDM for the first vindi kill when they reformed on Gaanon with 70 ppl, it's why they started cross teaming, to actually kill raid targets with bards/other classes since noone was.

[heartbrand]

No one is on because there's nothing to do, velious is months away and we all have multiple level 60s. Should we hold hands in OT inspecting each other? Should we all sit in KC for the five minutes a day that there's pvp there? Should I go form groups to pvp crypt groups to just have them evac and cry Zerg and VP loot in ooc? Should I go grief their royal raids so I can hear in ooc how I'm killing the server by griefing the competition? Should I go grief newbs in unrest or city of mist? I already maxed all my tradeskills. There's no reason to log on. Give us item loot, give us velious or content and people will log on. I got better stuff to do then AFK in KC just to say hey I'm on bros.

I was in inner circle on xegony and I can count on one hand the number of mobs we lost from release through planes of power. Welcome to EQ.

[Stasis01]

I'm not saying variance will increase loot going to non Nihilum - but fuck they'll have to actually fight and earn it, this zerg one day a week is fucking garbage - you need to realise it Sirk dawg.

[heartbrand]

Fight who? Who would we be fighting? We get 20+ people in OT within five minutes of a bat phone. A lite led guild can't get 20+ people to a pre planned raid within two hours. There's no pvp because the competition is awful. You need bluebies here who know how to bat phone and form up for competition not variance which plays right into nihilums greatest strength. P.s variance will mean nihilum recruits even more people so that there's 30 strong ready to answer the bat phone at any hour.

All variance is, is a punishment to nihilum. When classic disbands and all bounces again, and disband they will like all the guilds before them, all that will remain is a non classic feature that does nothing but punish the only people who play here.

[Stasis01]

There's no pvp because the #1 guild can log on as a zerg at a specific time that's suitable for the guild.

You aren't as strong as you let on during non peak times - I wonder if you lie on purpose or if this is just the way lawyers talk.

[SamwiseRed]

Nilly could easily be toppled, the only thing holding us back is lack of dedication to do such a thing. I mean seriously, I would never wake up and go raid if someone tried to batphone me while I was sleeping. I didn't think people actually did that until p99. Never been a raider so I dunno. The appeal of being top guild (killing the same 'bosses' every week at a certain time) isn't that appealing. At least in wow you could get pvp titles and armor with your pvp points. I miss vanilla wow :(

[lite]

There's no pvp because the #1 guild can log on as a zerg at a specific time that's suitable for the guild.

You aren't as strong as you let on during non peak times - I wonder if you lie on purpose or if this is just the way lawyers talk.


In all fairness to classic, with our current number advantage I can't think of much they could've done apart from my camp the TD zone in point strat or some more aggressive VP griefing.

[Labanen]

There's no pvp because the #1 guild can log on as a zerg at a specific time that's suitable for the guild.

You aren't as strong as you let on during non peak times - I wonder if you lie on purpose or if this is just the way lawyers talk.We can log in a force anytime... i thought you d noticed by now. Variance will mean a bit of lost sleep, and make the game less attractive to play, make the server less classic, but it will give you zero advantage.

The people that arent on their mains during off peak hours, isnt on their mains cause they re maxed and they play alts, play lol, heck some even play wow (/sigh), but they are within reach of a batphone.

Take the first few weeks of Ragefire with random timer... we got excactly 100 % of those.

[Agatha]

you're gay for being in zerg guild, that is all.

[heartbrand]

Pretty much what ruban said. I'm around to log on during the week I just choose not to unless there's mass pvp because there's nothing for me to do. If there were something I'd be on much like a lot of our players who have been immersed in league lately. You of all people having been in nihilum should know this.

[hagard]

There were 30 nihilum members on stand by last night at 2am for a potential server reset. .

on a friday night
to kill the same dragons you guys have killled for over a year straight
on a friday night
HEH



































ps
go outside

[heartbrand]

Didn't say I was one of them, and the whole point of this thread is variance which means the chance for targets to be sniped at god awful hours such as 430am, so who are the real poopsockers the people logging in once a week or the ones asking for a system that forces them to log on trackers 24/7 and snipe raid targets at 430 am? Ya thx for playing

[Labanen]

i think <classic> could give us a run for our money if they picked their battles (and hiding places) alittle more carefully. Dont think the servers dead yet, but you ll have to earn it, we re not gonna give stuff away.

Come Velious though i think it ll be hard to keep everything locked down, but we shall see.

[Colgate]

There were 30 nihilum members on stand by last night at 2am for a potential server reset.

guess i missed this on my first glance-through

prob the most saddening thing i've ever heard on these forums

[heartbrand]

I seem to recall you raiding trak at 4am est on a Saturday night b4 pal

[heartbrand]

No, i reccomend pvping. But hey, you're Heartbrand, you're terrible at PVP and could not do jack shit until you had an unbeatable character. Hopefully SoulFire is repaired soon, in which case you will be plugging 20 mintues earlier in every battle you're in.

You sound pretty mad bro did you eat some bolts through the wall in guk? There ain't no pvp during the week. I can spend 45 minutes running from zone to zone on my warrior looking for "pvp" on a 45 player server during weekday hours, four to five of whom are even in my level range, or I can queue up league games with pals and be pvping in under three minutes. Hard choice.

[heartbrand]

BTW Dragon's Claw/Jinx or whatever that Asian guild was took Nagafen/Vox within the first month of it being downed on Xegony. So whatever, fool, Inner Circle got a lot of content and did well but Cunnan's Brewing Company owned PoFear's release. Draconic Tribe did a lot of content with their raid partners. Hell even that human Shadow Knight Ranadin had a successful guild that got original content. They got one of the very first Innoruuk's because i remember him basically discovering the Blood Moon. It was absolutely not an Inner Circle lockdown like you're pretending.

Glad you were in Inner Circle, who wasnt? Was there, probably before you, but glad you're hanging your hat on EQPVE 14 years ago, why is it again that you couldn't even lead a red guild through the planes on Red99 w/o succumbing to the pressure and joining the zerg under an alias again?

His names Ronak btw leader of Machin Shin the guild I joined after IC broke up and was in until a year ago. MS never got shit for content while it was current until gates of discord, at which point we were the top guild until RoI was merged onto Xegony a couple of years ago.

[Colgate]

I seem to recall you raiding trak at 4am est on a Saturday night b4 pal

that was on a weekday and as a student with afternoon classes ain't no thang

big difference than friday night sitting around waiting and hoping that the server comes back up

[hagard]

You sound pretty mad bro did you eat some bolts through the wall in guk? There ain't no pvp during the week. I can spend 45 minutes running from zone to zone on my warrior looking for "pvp" on a 45 player server during weekday hours, four to five of whom are even in my level range, or I can queue up league games with pals and be pvping in under three minutes. Hard choice.

More holes in this story than Swiss cheese

[heartbrand]

Pvp on red during the week as a non porter is pretty fucking awful / not fun, unless zone hugging KC is entertaining to you. Even cwall admits how bad it is in aim chat. In guk during classic as a caster everyone was bound at king portal and it was non stop pvp, no body gave a fuck how many times they died everyone was fighting for manastone. Kunark pvp not so much.

[heartbrand]

Lets see, weekday afternoon... Most people are at work. A job. That's a good time to be at one. You should look into this, maybe? How about weeknights, or weekend nights when raid content isnt up? Population showed almost 200 every weekday night this past week, but PvP hard to get up for when there are more pressing things (PVE in some other game).

Btw, no, i'm not thinking of Ronak of Machin Shin. I already quit EverQuest live by then. I think the asian guild was actually Junx not Jinx or Jynx but i dont think it matters either way. The human Shadow Knight was Ranadin and i dont recall what guild he lead on Xegony but when servers did their movelogs he left Xegony to lead the top tier on whatever server he went on. He got raid content on Xegony, though, which is what i was saying to refute your OG post of ignorance.

Sallian, Rodnev, Yalilya, those were my partners in Xegony. I bet you were more the Gathu/Remye era, eh?

I went to school with Dan aka Gathu he's a great guy. Also lol at trolls about my income I'm doing very well.

[heartbrand]

In game and out of game high roller status confirmed thanks.

[Syft]

on a friday night
to kill the same dragons you guys have killled for over a year straight
on a friday night
HEH

ps
go outside

LOL!

[HeisChuck]

shits just circling the drain now a days...... tbh i dk how variance could 'hurt', could it get any worse for the server right now?

red woulda had a chance if all the changes in the last month were put in a year ago

eq emu pvp has such a small player base and id say 60% of them have already thrown in the towel on this project

[Colgate]

Even cwall admits how bad it is in aim chat.

yeah i'll admit it here too how fucking awful the pvp on this server is and always has been with these resists, highsun, mage pets, tstaff, skean, windstriker, golem wands, trak teeth, red wood wands, woolly spider silk nets, etc. along with the blatant corruption at the developer level(sundawg/rogean)

people try to assert that this is the only "legit" emu server even though it's riddled with corruption and rampant hack usage

so much for "antihax.dll" if it doesn't detect the compile and/or you never send out a wave of bans for it

[s1ckness]

How about the non-randomness of one guild taking every single raid mob since box release,



rogean could of saved server with YT/leaderboard at the release.. instead he banned the other opposing guild and ran red99 into the ground..


GG

[heartbrand]

Did you really just make a fake tell log about when the server will be up on a server that's not up? Lol?

[Seary]

We can log in a force anytime... i thought you d noticed by now. Variance will mean a bit of lost sleep, and make the game less attractive to play, make the server less classic, but it will give you zero advantage.

The people that arent on their mains during off peak hours, isnt on their mains cause they re maxed and they play alts, play lol, heck some even play wow (/sigh), but they are within reach of a batphone.

Take the first few weeks of Ragefire with random timer... we got excactly 100 % of those.

This is sickening. Almost 2 years into the server and ya'll still get stiffies just thinking about raiding. Please seek help, all of you.

[Awwalike]

GAY THREAD

[Labanen]

This is sickening. Almost 2 years into the server and ya'll still get stiffies just thinking about raiding. Please seek help, all of you.we gathered the people who want to raid, then we raid, in a game in which a large part of the gameplay is raiding. Sounds logic to me...

You sound mad bro, maybe you should seek that help yourself.

[aborted]

red99 needs to recruit a leader for the opposition

[Terpuntine]

we gathered the people who want to raid, then we raid, in a game in which a large part of the gameplay is raiding. Sounds logic to me...

You sound mad bro, maybe you should seek that help yourself.

Dont you speak to the coach like that

[FaithlessKR]

you clearly never heard of Tallon Zek on live, it was the same thing with <Pandemonium>. Another guild that was able to easily sit on the top forever and never had to deal with competition.

honestly i feel bad for the old TZ players, you guys missed out.

The major difference back then Sirken, is that PDM were at least 60% red. Meaning that they had 60% of their member base online at pretty much all times even when raid mobs weren't up. Nihilum never have more than 10-12 people online until mobs spawn.

It's a problem that leads to an extremely dead pvp server, essentially blue with pvp enabled. Adding in variance would liven up the server, because it would be necessary for Nihilum members to actually be online more often.

This would increase the rate of PvP, and also possibly weed out the Nihlium loot whores who in all honesty can't handle a classic red server, because they are unwilling to put in the time.

Please add variance.

[Tomato King6]

same thread, same posts

same silence , same problems

same people complaining

same people logging in


time to give up.

come play vanilla wow on feenix

[Buhbuh]

it's more a combination of them being 70% of the server, their players generally having more free time, and them treating the game like it's a job (i.e. things like buying up 55 mages for CoTH bots come Velious 5 months in advance, being grouped with porters/ fully buffed for raid content within 5-7 minutes of logging in, etc etc.)

tl;dr they have decisiveness, strong coordination/ efficiency (something you can't blame them for).

what you can blame them for is by doing so they make, ultimately, a predictable server with a predictable future -- they will always be 70% of the server because 70% of players want the best loot, and that sentiment will always outweigh the desire to be an underdog and topple the big guys. basically another blue server, and people in that guild seem to enjoy it. be nice if it changed, though.

[Sektor]

it's more a combination of them being 70% of the server, their players generally having more free time, and them treating the game like it's a job (i.e. things like buying up 55 mages for CoTH bots come Velious 5 months in advance, being grouped with porters/ fully buffed for raid content within 5-7 minutes of logging in, etc etc.)

tl;dr they have decisiveness, strong coordination/ efficiency (something you can't blame them for).

what you can blame them for is by doing so they make, ultimately, a predictable server with a predictable future -- they will always be 70% of the server because 70% of players want the best loot, and that sentiment will always outweigh the desire to be an underdog and topple the big guys. basically another blue server, and people in that guild seem to enjoy it. be nice if it changed, though.

Well said, with 1 little added point to this. When Velious comes out, once the gear gap closes between members of nilly in full tunare/ntov/sleeprs loot vs players in 80% kunark, plane of fear/hate armor. The server will be just nilly, and well people will get bored and quit. Nilly will basically kill itself due to boredem. Then red99 will die, blue99 will gain some members and get a little bigger.

I personally didn't want this merge to happen, but this isn't about me, if you can't see the big picture then you're delusional.

[Malevz]

Another post for variance? So the plan is:

-train in VP
-make excuses
-cry for a wipe
-cry for variance that wouldn't change anything except bore a few nihilum off server
-trying to push back spawn timers to 4-5am

The 'opposition' will do anything but actually pvp for mobs. Could it be because so many of their bluebie players quit when forced to pvp? So very, very sad. If you don't want pvp, and want to see mobs pushed til Nihilum sleeps, why not just go to blue? You'll be safe there.

[Gustoo]

Red 99 just needs item loot so there is reason to make lowbie twinks to do battle with high stakes.

And a reason to literally hunt players for loot rather than just pride. No one has enough pride at stake in p99 to really do what it takes to achieve victory. I'm not going to put leveling up on hold to get together a few level 20's ish friends to try to gank a level 20+ sk in unrest if its just to teleport him back to Gfay zone line. I will just do my level 20-40 grind somewhere else.

You guys are laughs. Without item loot PVP is a slight motivation for getting high level and getting good gear, and a slightly exciting element of the game, but for the person who knows they are weaker than their opponent the only good strategy is to avoid battle to hurry up and get some levels.

Item loot is crucial to making PVP have a point. I can solo level 1-50 on almost any character wearing full banded, or full cloth + whatever random dropped + int + mana stuff that is seriously worth like 50pp a piece, no problem. For standard lowbies, item loot offers absolutely no disadvantage. It does offer the strong incentive to take out twinks and try to steal their excellent gear.

+ it gives people a reason to wear random funky no drop gear like "shin" armor from lguk and stuff.

P.S. the reason nihilum keeps being the strongest guild is because anyone dedicated enough to beating them will choose to just join them. If they stopped accepting skilled and dedicated players, than they would have competition, but most people that just want loot opportunities will simply join Nihilum. There is no reason to compete for most players and when people see all of the /mad going on in threads like this it makes it clear that other guilds don't have the dedication needed to take these mobs from nihilum. It just takes serious serious serious butt hours and the people willing to put those hours in just join the team that will give them loot rather than a lot of rants.

[Terpuntine]

A lot of you underestimate the numbers its going to take to kill a major named in velious.. You are all bitching about 30 right now, expect around 60 come velious. And even at 60 or so players its not a zerg its a necessity if any one guild intends on killing anything of significance.

Aside from a few vp pieces and epics, kunark gear in a nutshell is pretty bad. Its more than possible to compete against a VP geared guild with drops available to the more casual of players. It just takes some organization and skill.

Nihilum isnt doing anything that I myself or anyone else wouldnt do. If the shoe was on the other foot are you all saying you would just allow the potential competition to have raid mobs? Or that you would split your guild in two for the betterment of the server? If you answered yes to those questions then you are delusional.

If people really want to compete against nihilum like they say they do then they will stop throwing temper tantrums and rage logging over not getting a raid boss. Instead they should learn from the mistake made and work on strengthening numbers and getting more efficient at mobilizing for a raid so they can try again next week. As it stands right now you cant even attempt to compete because with one loss half of you whine and rage quit.

[Syft]

Another post for variance? So the plan is:

-train in VP
-make excuses
-cry for a wipe
-cry for variance that wouldn't change anything except bore a few nihilum off server
-trying to push back spawn timers to 4-5am

The 'opposition' will do anything but actually pvp for mobs. Could it be because so many of their bluebie players quit when forced to pvp? So very, very sad. If you don't want pvp, and want to see mobs pushed til Nihilum sleeps, why not just go to blue? You'll be safe there.

LOL soooo were going to pretend that a horde of traks teeth aren't blown everytime there's a large scale fight with Nihilium.

And were also gonna pretend that this is evenly balanced pvp where one guild doesn't have more numbers, more help from the powers that be, more cheats being used, and there also the only ones with VP gear lol.

Any other server in the world and people would consider the gear difference and applaud the opposition, but here we play pretend.

[heartbrand]

A lot of you underestimate the numbers its going to take to kill a major named in velious.. You are all bitching about 30 right now, expect around 60 come velious. And even at 60 or so players its not a zerg its a necessity if any one guild intends on killing anything of significance.

Aside from a few vp pieces and epics, kunark gear in a nutshell is pretty bad. Its more than possible to compete against a VP geared guild with drops available to the more casual of players. It just takes some organization and skill.

Nihilum isnt doing anything that I myself or anyone else wouldnt do. If the shoe was on the other foot are you all saying you would just allow the potential competition to have raid mobs? Or that you would split your guild in two for the betterment of the server? If you answered yes to those questions then you are delusional.

If people really want to compete against nihilum like they say they do then they will stop throwing temper tantrums and rage logging over not getting a raid boss. Instead they should learn from the mistake made and work on strengthening numbers and getting more efficient at mobilizing for a raid so they can try again next week. As it stands right now you cant even attempt to compete because with one loss half of you whine and rage quit.

Post of the Year Candidate

[Syft]

kill trakanon for his teeth maybe?

And when guys have a 1000 of them in the bank from farming a dead server for over a year and are waiting at trak each time he spawns with your fingers on the button lol always mobilized way ahead of time thx to an MIRC message from a guy who truly know when he spawns LMFAO!

Like I said you want to play pretend!

How bad do you have to be to outgear and out number the opposition and still NEED to blow trak's teeth to win! It's like blowing a conflag wand on a guy 10 lvls lower than you and calling yourself the man for winning despite all odds.

[Something'Witty]

Post of the Year Candidate

Agree

[Colgate]

Another post for variance? So the plan is:

-train in VP
-make excuses
-cry for a wipe
-cry for variance that wouldn't change anything except bore a few nihilum off server
-trying to push back spawn timers to 4-5am

The 'opposition' will do anything but actually pvp for mobs. Could it be because so many of their bluebie players quit when forced to pvp? So very, very sad. If you don't want pvp, and want to see mobs pushed til Nihilum sleeps, why not just go to blue? You'll be safe there.

talking about crying is hysterical coming from you considering you were the biggest crybaby in nihilum back when you guys were losing almost every mass pvp fight

i think everyone here remembers how you'd be the only guy online trying to get your corpse 5 hours after losing a big battle despite dying half a dozen times to kringe

[Silent]

Didn't read past first page, But you said "so Classic can bank some horn of wars"? There is PLENTY of dragon loot a majority of the guild still needs, We don't bank every single piece of dragon loot then have a auction once a month for bank cleanouts. Our members would actually use the items, They wouldn't go to a bank char to sit and be sold. You guys have no reason to kill them other then to gather more dragon loot to sell. But you are all picky about what you sell, You don't want to allow any wizard epics or possible fight changing items out on the market. You took a mage staff epic MQ for 3 fungi tunics which was an obvious deal since we had them available. But you knew the value of it due to the coming invis pull nerf that hit 2 weeks after making the trade a substantial win.

But anyway, Like the others said...On non raid day/trak spawns, You see the same dozen or so nihilum members on only. The rest only login for respawns.

[Nirgun]

Terp,

You would be right if people didn't rage log because Lite tells people to run in a cave as a "viable" pvp strat.


But ya, i know what you are saying. I'd be down to sit by karnors zone-line and have a plug battle than get wiped at Trak lair. Especially after these gay rogue nerfs.

[Aenor]

All that will remain is a non classic feature that does nothing but punish the only people who play here.

Heartbrand, although you are the most gigantic sell-out faggot on red99, you are completely right here. This is why I proposed a separate new server. Keep the current server running and let the population be 100% nihilum, then launch a new server, maybe with a teams ruleset to distinguish it, for the hundreds of players who have lost interest in Nihilum99. Sirken, Rogean, Nilbog, et al, I am offering to donate the cost of equipment plus one year's bandwidth if you will commit to launching a new PvP server. I work for a large service provider so I have a good idea what that cost is.

[Feniggles]

i should prolly read this thread before posting, but no one else does. vallon zek was controlled by a "bluebie" guild. cant beat them can only hope to agitate them.

[Feniggles]

guy below me said it better.

[runlvlzero]

If people really want to compete against nihilum like they say they do then they will stop throwing temper tantrums and rage logging over not getting a raid boss. Instead they should learn from the mistake made and work on strengthening numbers and getting more efficient at mobilizing for a raid so they can try again next week. As it stands right now you cant even attempt to compete because with one loss half of you whine and rage quit.

The majority of stoners that don't make the cut into nihilum really don't give a fuck about any of this. It will never happen.

There will never be an underdog guild that kicks ass. That wants to succeed. Maybe... Heresy, maybe LiteGuildv2.0

But ya'll are still to divided up and with your own agendas and short term desires.

I bowed out of that shit a long time ago to level alts and fuck around having fun 1-30-40

Maybe one day I'll give a shit again. But its unlikely.

But Terp is 100% right. People just don't want to, are afraid to, can't (physically and mentally incapable) of investing time in mobilizing, training, and supporting a guild.

If my purpose was pixel farming this box I would have never come back. Because I know Nihilums opposition has a long way to go to even have a chance at acting like a professional team.

Simply put, the majority of serious people on this box seem to be in Nihilum. A few hardcore dedicated pvpers aside.

[Terpuntine]

As Woody Harrelson would say to all the ppl crying about nilly.

"It's time to nut up or shut up"

[SamwiseRed]

To quote Wu Tang Clan

"Shame on a ***** who try to run game on a *****"

[Smedy]

What don't you get? There were 30 nihilum members on stand by last night at 2am for a potential server reset.

God damn, just thinking of gongshow and gyno handholding with resident retard heartbrand sitting 2am on a friday waiting for mobs that there's zero contest for amuses me, looks like i won at everquest by not doing exactly that.

[Banai]

Nihilum sounds like the saddest bunch of people ever, especially heartbrand. loller at you, oh and wipe it clean

[Jezibell]

Heartbrand, although you are the most gigantic sell-out faggot on red99, you are completely right here. This is why I proposed a separate new server. Keep the current server running and let the population be 100% nihilum, then launch a new server, maybe with a teams ruleset to distinguish it, for the hundreds of players who have lost interest in Nihilum99. Sirken, Rogean, Nilbog, et al, I am offering to donate the cost of equipment plus one year's bandwidth if you will commit to launching a new PvP server. I work for a large service provider so I have a good idea what that cost is.

[Bazia]

I'll throw 50$ in the ring with Aenor

lets return to the land where the man with the rusty two handed sword is king

[kotton05]

To quote Wu Tang Clan

"Shame on a ***** who try to run game on a *****"

I thought that was b I g

[Giovanni]

Another post for variance? So the plan is:

-train in VP
-make excuses
-cry for a wipe
-cry for variance that wouldn't change anything except bore a few nihilum off server
-trying to push back spawn timers to 4-5am

The 'opposition' will do anything but actually pvp for mobs. Could it be because so many of their bluebie players quit when forced to pvp? So very, very sad. If you don't want pvp, and want to see mobs pushed til Nihilum sleeps, why not just go to blue? You'll be safe there.

What we saw when we actually pvp'd for mobs
-We were outgeared and outleveled
-Each Nihilum would plug 2, 3, or 4 level 60's fully buffed into the zone line being contested.
-Every Nihilum has a soulfire and trak tooth
-If we win, someone throws the light switch, nerfs charm animal, or bans the opposing guild for using the same strats used by Nihilum for months. Signing bonuses start getting offered on Craigslist.

[Stasis01]

What we saw when we actually pvp'd for mobs
-We were outgeared and outleveled
-Each Nihilum would plug 2, 3, or 4 level 60's fully buffed into the zone line being contested.
-Every Nihilum has a soulfire and trak tooth
-If we win, someone throws the light switch, nerfs charm animal, or bans the opposing guild for using the same strats used by Nihilum for months. Signing bonuses start getting offered on Craigslist.

What you missed - Raze sounding like he wanted to cry when you guys took Trak at 5am.

[heartbrand]

What you missed - Raze sounding like he wanted to cry when you guys took Trak at 5am.

chuckled slightly. listen man, I feel you, competition would be fun, the server is incredibly boring. I just strongly feel variance / staggered spawns w/e you want to call it isn't going to help and in fact would hurt you guys more while also making the game even shittier for us. I feel the best chance you guys have is the fact that they all spawn on top of each other and you can snipe a target while we're doing another or set up before we get there or what not. Having said that, I'd be open to trying variance on a TRIAL basis for a month to see what would happen. Of course this is all a waste of breath because we know how many fucks are given here.

[Junkman]

LOL

[Silikten]

rogean could of saved server with YT/leaderboard at the release.. instead he banned the other opposing guild and ran red99 into the ground..


GG

FYI, the opposing guild was hacking and exploiting. Got caught, cried about consequence. Don't just act like you didn't deserve it.

Also, hopefully <Heresy> will be in the competition soon. We're mostly low numbers atm, but we will get there. Nihilum shall fall!

[Aenor]

lets return to the land where the man with the rusty two handed sword is king