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lite
07-25-2013, 03:45 AM
In this thread I will continue to post all footage I get that I beleive to display Cheating. I encourage to do the same. I name this thread Nihilum MQ, because it is an established fact that the player Handparty Towel was banned for it and distributed it to many Nihilum members. He was not caught however until one of the people he provided it to turned him in.

SO on lite the other day I had Tune and Dreadtoker follwing me from zone to zone, countless times. And I always found Dreadtoker's ability to Target me very Unusual... The guy truly had a talent. It seemed extremely fishy. Today in KC as I zone out on Wanyo, I am out of line of sight of him. However, immidiately upon zoning out, He has me targeted and is shooting at me before even knowing where it is that I am.

He targets me and shoots me before I get to click on him, and I've already zoned out ahead of him to arrange the camera angle. Jesus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky2p2JpgTaE

I took the time to make a second video with my alt, showing how I can not /target hashtag until I am actually in line of sight of him. I welcome you guys to test it out for yourselves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbyyRfh1ShE

Bulletproofx
07-25-2013, 04:05 AM
This is funny coming from the guy who boxes multiples characters EVERYDAY. I can't wait until you get smashed by the banhammer. Less QQ more pewpew

Slathar
07-25-2013, 04:41 AM
Bulletproofx is easily one if the worst players in the history of red99.

LOL

Clark
07-25-2013, 05:26 AM
http://s21.postimg.org/43t5tjax3/walkingdead1.png

DeadlyApostle
07-25-2013, 06:27 AM
It is your ghost... trying zoning and chasing someone and 9/10 times they will have a ghost waiting for you to target at the zoneline.

Twain
07-25-2013, 07:11 AM
Ghosts are wizards best friends. You have no idea how many people I pillar that are zoning into BW and I'm at KC.

Agatha
07-25-2013, 07:13 AM
for real my favorite way of griefing is to aquire dat ghost n make sum toast.

also, sup stagecoach, morning :)

Twain
07-25-2013, 08:23 AM
Sup Aggy. How you doing this fine morning pal.

Gel Mibson
07-25-2013, 08:33 AM
/target wanyo doesn't work if you're not los?

Smedy
07-25-2013, 08:57 AM
In this thread I will continue to post all footage I get that I beleive to display Cheating. I encourage to do the same. I name this thread Nihilum MQ, because it is an established fact that the player Handparty Towel was banned for it and distributed it to many Nihilum members. He was not caught however until one of the people he provided it to turned him in.

SO on lite the other day I had Tune and Dreadtoker follwing me from zone to zone, countless times. And I always found Dreadtoker's ability to Target me very Unusual... The guy truly had a talent. It seemed extremely fishy. Today in KC as I zone out on Wanyo, I am out of line of sight of him. However, immidiately upon zoning out, He has me targeted and is shooting at me before even knowing where it is that I am.

He targets me and shoots me before I get to click on him, and I've already zoned out ahead of him to arrange the camera angle. Jesus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky2p2JpgTaE

I took the time to make a second video with my alt, showing how I can not /target hashtag until I am actually in line of sight of him. I welcome you guys to test it out for yourselves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbyyRfh1ShE

I haven't read any of this thread but just looking at your video i can debunk the cheating accusements right there.

EQEMU has syncronization issues between the client and server and when you zone it will take x amount of seconds for the server to update the client where the players in the zone are. What you are presented with in the first seconds upon zoning is an old "last updated" location of the person in question, now that when you zoned in before dreadtoker your client flagged that pos as your most recent and when dreadtoker came in he could probably tab target you for the first seconds and then it updated and he ran out.

This is probably what happened

If there's more strange targetting tho i dno, but i'm just commenting about the video i saw

Elderan
07-25-2013, 09:12 AM
Lol knew lite was dumb but this one is pretty funny.

Lite plays 12 hours a day and has never heard of targeting a ghost?

Ghosting happens when someone zones ahead of you and runs away. You can target their ghost. It is extremely common.

Zereh
07-25-2013, 09:16 AM
The cheating / hacker theory makes for a better thread though, so lets just run with that.

Twain
07-25-2013, 09:18 AM
Zarah confirmed MQ2 user. She hacked my heart and stole my love. =(

Dullah
07-25-2013, 09:27 AM
http://cdn.meme.li/instances/600x/40032104.jpg

Colgate
07-25-2013, 09:32 AM
http://cdn.meme.li/instances/600x/40032104.jpg

sig

half your guild cries about my alleged "5% runspeed offsets"

smiling hard as hell

Colgate
07-25-2013, 09:33 AM
Bulletproofx is easily one if the worst players in the history of red99.

LOL

agreed

heartbrand
07-25-2013, 09:34 AM
If only Ryan Braun had used the 5% PED's he would've never been busted

Kraftwerk
07-25-2013, 09:58 AM
If only Ryan Braun had used the 5% PED's he would've never been busted

Hehehe I traded him off my fantasy team for Giancarlo Stanton and Jed Lowrie 4 days before he got suspended.

Unfortunately I had to drop Tim Hudson last night....

Gustoo
07-25-2013, 10:22 AM
Zarah confirmed MQ2 user. She hacked my heart and stole my love. =(

haha

lite
07-25-2013, 10:58 AM
I am far too familiar with the ghost that can be occur when zoning. From my experience this occurs when there is a greater time gap between zoners. Also, I've never seen it occur when the person remains close. Can't be too quick to dismiss things when it is a known fact that Nihilum gladly harvors MQ users and benefits from them as was the case with Enderr, and Handpartytowerl who distributes the client.

Zade
07-25-2013, 11:25 AM
Any legit evidence should go to petitions and not server chat anyways



/target doesn't work if you dont have LOS

Thrilla
07-25-2013, 11:51 AM
I am far too familiar with the ghost that can be occur when zoning. From my experience this occurs when there is a greater time gap between zoners. Also, I've never seen it occur when the person remains close. Can't be too quick to dismiss things when it is a known fact that Nihilum gladly harvors MQ users and benefits from them as was the case with Enderr, and Handpartytowerl who distributes the client.

I have been in the guild for nearly 2 years now (crazy 2 years p99) and I can say that if anybody is using MQ they're doing an awfully good job of hiding it, even among their peers.

Let's be real, having to use a crutch in a 14 year old emulated 150 population server is pathetic -- I'm not saying there aren't people out there using it, but I'd highly question their sanity in doing so. It's fun to wear the tinfoil cap every now and then, but I think you're just witch hunting here.

Andis
07-25-2013, 12:00 PM
remember the time when ender got banned for ghost hacking in seb, as he tried to pass our grp in trakanons lair.

but no nihi doesnt cheat...

heartbrand
07-25-2013, 12:15 PM
Isn't Retti that guy who was in Nihilum for close to 7 months when it was 30+ people farming a box that no joke struggled to break double digits during the day time? Ya, thought so just makin sure. Carry on.

lite
07-25-2013, 12:28 PM
sig

half your guild cries about my alleged "5% runspeed offsets"

smiling hard as hell

:rolleyes:

Combobreaker
07-25-2013, 12:31 PM
Isn't Retti that guy who was in Nihilum for close to 7 months when it was 30+ people farming a box that no joke struggled to break double digits during the day time? Ya, thought so just makin sure. Carry on.

LOL pniner is rettiwalk

Nirgon
07-25-2013, 12:35 PM
You're all scum but I like some of you.

Ezpk lemme pass on some advice I gave to Heartbrand when he switched sides.

It's not your job to defend anyone but yourself on the boards. Don't gargle the Jizzarr bro.

Nirgon
07-25-2013, 12:36 PM
The cheating / hacker theory makes for a better thread though, so lets just run with that.

For the BEST thread we need Uth and Rogean trashing and confirming your guild officers as cheaters.

But yes the cheater/conspiracy threads are better than the usual run of the mill stuff here.

lite
07-25-2013, 12:40 PM
You're all scum but I like some of you.

Ezpk lemme pass on some advice I gave to Heartbrand when he switched sides.

It's not your job to defend anyone but yourself on the boards. Don't gargle the Jizzarr bro.

Switch implies voluntary. We mutinied that disgusting rat after he tried to get me to help him strip Cinda.

Nirgon
07-25-2013, 12:43 PM
I'm implying a change of tag for whatever reason

lite
07-25-2013, 12:45 PM
It was beautiful, he tried to make everyone an officer to stay with him. Including EZPk and brennard, when that failed. Then when all was lost, he tried to make Noah his leader.

Andis
07-25-2013, 12:46 PM
heartbrand, you should make an appointment with the doc

time for a checkup

Nirgon
07-25-2013, 12:48 PM
My door is open

Combobreaker
07-25-2013, 12:48 PM
Ezpk* was exploiting spectres* in feerrott river during the same dark days when he would roll around solo as a warrior and fuck everybody

and for not even an entire level, which I posted the bug about in BETA. Turn off the vacuum

e/ still funny that you're rettiwalk HAHAHA

Nirgon
07-25-2013, 12:50 PM
Is Nizzar getting the Retti treatment or vice versa yet? That's the funniest thing about him imo.

big league chew
07-25-2013, 12:55 PM
and for not even an entire level, which I posted the bug about in BETA. Turn off the vacuum

lol wut
i still dont get why some ppl are permabanned for this while ez roams free
can confirm he was snorklequesting on red99 not beta

Andis
07-25-2013, 12:59 PM
I remember that - was funny

Agatha
07-25-2013, 01:10 PM
nihi cheats, nothing new. used to make me blue, here is a picture of some...
http://i.imgur.com/XnRDGoc.jpg

Combobreaker
07-25-2013, 01:20 PM
lol wut
i still dont get why some ppl are permabanned for this while ez roams free
can confirm he was snorklequesting on red99 not beta

No1 is permabanned for shit unless they did something terrible to someone else.

See inbox chew, how dare yew

big league chew
07-25-2013, 01:37 PM
No1 is permabanned for shit unless they did something terrible to someone else.

See inbox chew, how dare yew

i skimmed, seems mad

Colgate
07-25-2013, 01:52 PM
only thing i have exploited on red99 is bad players' jousting skills

Harr1son
07-25-2013, 02:49 PM
did party towel really get lolz banned?

Colgate
07-25-2013, 02:54 PM
confirmed

Harr1son
07-25-2013, 02:58 PM
what a bitter, bitter defeat.

Harr1son
07-25-2013, 03:03 PM
Minnesota is the land of 11,842 lakes, which I believe party towel hails from. Hmm either that or Nebraska. I'll have to reference my EQ dox file. Its the prism database for all players of EQuest

Harr1son
07-25-2013, 03:08 PM
Lol knew lite was dumb but this one is pretty funny.

Lite plays 12 hours a day and has never heard of targeting a ghost?

Ghosting happens when someone zones ahead of you and runs away. You can target their ghost. It is extremely common.

"soandso is dumb"

hay, don't throw sand in the sandbox

http://raisingcreativechildren.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/2248418981_0299482336_z.jpg

Loli Pops
07-25-2013, 04:15 PM
Bulletproofx is easily the worst player in the history of red99.

LOL

Fixd

Dullah
07-25-2013, 08:16 PM
remember the time when ender got banned for ghost hacking in seb, as he tried to pass our grp in trakanons lair.

but no nihi doesnt cheat...

Walked right thru you blind baddies like 5 times, not a single person noticed so I must be a cheater.

Sirken as my witness, never counselled, warned, suspended or banned for anything related to exploiting, cheating or hacking.

Tune
07-25-2013, 08:17 PM
only thing i have exploited on red99 is bad players' jousting skills

less talk more action

nice k:dr

Terpuntine
07-25-2013, 08:22 PM
Ghosts are wizards best friends. You have no idea how many people I pillar that are zoning into BW and I'm at KC.

Love the ghosts

Loli Pops
07-25-2013, 08:23 PM
http://imgur.com/4vEHlbu.jpg

Clark
07-25-2013, 08:31 PM
Bulletproofx is easily one if the worst players in the history of red99.

LOL

Nizzarr
07-25-2013, 09:16 PM
ill just leave this here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ2Uj2WYu3o&feature=youtu.be

Bazia
07-26-2013, 08:05 AM
I don't even play here anymore but yeah you're kinda being an incredibly big hypocrite lite

You routinely boxed 2-3 characters at a time all day while I was guilded with you. Some characters (Maximillien) were exclusively leveled from being boxed in a corner during seb groups.

Boxing is cheating as well, therefore you're on king ****** status.

Junkman
07-26-2013, 08:15 AM
its the ghost......... holy shit lite you dumb

Loli Pops
07-26-2013, 08:22 AM
I'll have to reference my EQ dox file. Its the prism database for all players of EQuest

Need to email me this information. Plox.

Agatha
07-26-2013, 08:25 AM
Need to email me this information. Plox.

smedy honestly has the best information dump of box history, dating back to box 1.0. he's got the most organized file system i ever seen

runlvlzero
07-26-2013, 08:30 AM
I don't believe you've seen his filesystem.

Smedy
07-26-2013, 08:34 AM
antihaxx has access to my systems

will post dox for wizard epic mq

Fentanyl
07-26-2013, 10:20 AM
I'm guessing Lite didn't win this fight. Said I'm guessin Lite didn't win this fight, and as I sit in the night and consider his plight I'm thinkin post woulda never been, and all these allegations by her, allegations by him The Zeit The Zeit wouldn't be here if Lite woulda just won that fight on that fateful night.

Elderan
07-26-2013, 10:34 AM
Lites 2boxing is obvious on a daily basis. Logs on other chars to fully buff himself, uses Cheeseycakes to port himself around.

If you plan on wanding Wayno make sure to use at least 4 charges because since he 2 boxes it is pretty easy for him to go around 12+ buffs deep.

Nirgon
07-26-2013, 10:38 AM
Got past 10+ people staring at a narrow corridoor, everyone blind/bad.

But we were so terrible we killed you when you did appear.

HM!!!

PS: WB kinda don't hate you.

Agatha
07-26-2013, 10:45 AM
i like elderan

Nirgon
07-26-2013, 10:50 AM
Talkin' to that Destin foo.

Needs to stop zee modem tactics in zee geeld.

RoguePhantom
07-26-2013, 10:51 AM
i like elderan

It is the equivalent of liking the kid who comes to school in the full Gundam Wing suit, but only because the suit you made isn't as good.

A.K.A. You both are ridiculous.

Tomato King6
07-26-2013, 12:03 PM
lol lite, time to give up.

lite
07-26-2013, 12:57 PM
Oh look , its the nihilum Alt squad Exploiting out of range pelling ! jesus even they can't stop catching Nihilum cheating.

mtb tripper
07-26-2013, 01:03 PM
Oh look , its the nihilum Alt squad Exploiting out of range pelling ! jesus even they can't stop catching Nihilum cheating.

lite
07-26-2013, 01:04 PM
Lites 2boxing is obvious on a daily basis. Logs on other chars to fully buff himself, uses Cheeseycakes to port himself around.

If you plan on wanding Wayno make sure to use at least 4 charges because since he 2 boxes it is pretty easy for him to go around 12+ buffs deep.

Give me the names of the people using the HPT compile. Come clean.

Something'Witty
07-26-2013, 01:11 PM
Oh look , its the nihilum Alt squad Exploiting out of range pelling ! jesus even they can't stop catching Nihilum cheating.

So wait, dispel is currently bugged just like pillars? I thought that was just an /ooc troll.

lite
07-26-2013, 01:14 PM
yeah Nihilum has about 10 alts camped there that everyone Logs out to whenever we spank them in PVP. They log in and start out of range dispelling everyone, blatant exploitation of an unintended bug. Vaporize = Nunzio Nizzor = Nizzar, he generally uses that enchanter to come up to raids out of range and start spamming that enchanter clicky to attempt and lag everyone out. Truly pristine beaks.

You know whose beak is impeccable ? The guy streaming all the time.

heartbrand
07-26-2013, 01:15 PM
You blatantly boxed during our red dawn hate raids you kidding?

Smedy
07-26-2013, 01:17 PM
boxing should be legal during euro hours, we have like 1/4 of the population to play with, shits unclassic

lite
07-26-2013, 01:17 PM
and this guy, he tried to get me to strip Cinda. If any GM's care to check Lite's logs you will see that in game. We're talking Ender status, you should really look into him.

Sektor
07-26-2013, 01:18 PM
I wish boxing was legal like on classic. had NP paying for two accounts

Harr1son
07-26-2013, 01:18 PM
how long is party towel banned for?

heartbrand
07-26-2013, 01:18 PM
So it wasn't you playing maniaco and lite at the same time and commonly freez at the same time? You didn't use basiah's monk to pull jugs for us while on lite at the same time? You didn't port yourself on chubs? Lol ok bro.

Elderan
07-26-2013, 01:19 PM
Give me the names of the people using the HPT compile. Come clean.

Sorry but if I were going to use MQ I would write my own compile.

But I don't need it nor do I cheat. If MQ could stop you from 2boxing, training or zone plugging all day I might change my mind though.

Twain
07-26-2013, 01:20 PM
I wish boxing was legal like on classic. had NP paying for two accounts

I'm $ure you wouldn't mind paying for anything $ektor.

Elderan
07-26-2013, 01:20 PM
I wish boxing was legal like on classic. had NP paying for two accounts

You have paid for more than two accounts here...

Sorry but couldn't pass that up... :)

lite
07-26-2013, 01:20 PM
Sorry but if I were going to use MQ I would write my own compile.

But I don't need it nor do I cheat. If MQ could stop you from 2boxing, training or zone plugging all day I might change my mind though.

Ok, you don't. Who does? Are you going to sit here and pretend like it's some secret ? You give me the name of an MQ user, I give you the name of a boxer.

Twain
07-26-2013, 01:21 PM
Sorry but if I were going to use MQ I would write my own compile.

But I don't need it nor do I cheat. If MQ could stop you from 2boxing, training or zone plugging all day I might change my mind though.

Write me a compile that levels my LoL account.

lite
07-26-2013, 01:21 PM
And don't Say nizzar. I am talking the ones that haven't been publicly outed.

heartbrand
07-26-2013, 01:21 PM
Btw I support legalizing two boxing, but its unfair for some to do so if its against the rules while those of us who obey the rules do not. Amelinda was really good at cracking down on two boxing but its become rampant since she left.

Twain
07-26-2013, 01:22 PM
Ok, you don't. Who does? Are you going to sit here and pretend like it's some secret ? You give me the name of an MQ user, I give you the name of a boxer.

Obviously Nizzar is the biggest boxer on the server. Sirken said it himself, Nizzar boxes 28 people.

heartbrand
07-26-2013, 01:22 PM
Notice how lite ignores the boxing accusations

lite
07-26-2013, 01:25 PM
It seems almost expected that the likes of checkraise would miss Amelinda. PS, I've never boxed. But Nihilum's 45 Man raids to uncontested Trakanons make it seem damn appealing.

Nirgon
07-26-2013, 01:25 PM
Write me a compile that levels my LoL account.

I have an LoL account if you're intere$ted hue hue hue hue

Elderan
07-26-2013, 01:26 PM
It seems almost expected that the likes of checkraise would miss Amelinda. PS, I've never boxed. But Nihilum's 45 Man raids to uncontested Trakanons make it seem damn appealing.

I think its more a question of what day HAVEN'T you boxed....

heartbrand
07-26-2013, 01:27 PM
There you have it folks lite has never boxed, his mom must of been playing maniaco in hate and it must have been a different lite who was pulling jugs on basiah while still on lite. Maybe his sister? Who knows we may never find out who the mystery man is.

Twain
07-26-2013, 01:56 PM
I have an LoL account if you're intere$ted hue hue hue hue

You trying to $ektor that account dawg?

Twain
07-26-2013, 01:58 PM
Would support boxing. Bard speed wizzy around to pk lowbies.

Kinamara
07-26-2013, 01:59 PM
Same rules for all please.

The video clearly shows the same person is playing Cheeseycakes and Lite at the same time.

If it is no longer the policy that boxing is a bannable offense, then remove it from the ruleset so that we all can box, otherwise - justice for all.

Jepaxis
07-26-2013, 02:00 PM
Would support boxing. Bard speed wizzy around to pk lowbies.Don't you do that already?

lite
07-26-2013, 02:10 PM
1

Nirgon
07-26-2013, 02:24 PM
I dunno Twainz maybe you should $end me a PM

Twain
07-26-2013, 02:43 PM
I dunno Twainz maybe you should $end me a PM

Does the account have Ma$ter Yi? Would you like to get in AIM. I hear it i$ $afer.

Twain
07-26-2013, 02:45 PM
Don't you do that already?

Only time my characters have ever been logged on at the same time was during 1 VP raid and when I turned in Tyva's VP key. Both times, Saidin was playing Tyva.

Nizzarr
07-26-2013, 03:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ2Uj2WYu3o&feature=youtu.be

here's lite cheating.

Cmon dawg, stop boxing.

Supreme
07-26-2013, 03:40 PM
What's MQ?

Nirgon
07-26-2013, 04:19 PM
Ma$ter Yi is only 450 IP, but it ha$ everything you want

PM me your $creen name

Nirgon
07-26-2013, 04:24 PM
Only Supreme knows that X+Y=A=X+B and therefore that Y and B are equal.

What'd you get on your SATs bro?

Tomato King6
07-26-2013, 09:23 PM
you guys are funny

tattling on eachother like anyone cares

mtb tripper
07-26-2013, 09:24 PM
tomato doing way to much forumquesting, not enough fox news

Agatha
07-26-2013, 09:27 PM
tomato def plays, cuz he is on forums more when server down.

paying 50 Tomato'$ for info on his new char

SamwiseRed
07-26-2013, 09:30 PM
whats up with you guys and aim. also do you have the the early 90s version or that new shit because the new shit ISNT CLASSIC

i use icq cuz i love that "uh oh" sound everytime you get a pm :)

Twain
07-26-2013, 09:30 PM
woah Aggy. Stay off my $hit.

Agatha
07-26-2013, 09:35 PM
woah Aggy. Stay off my $hit.

bite you're swag all day dog.

Harr1son
07-26-2013, 10:47 PM
Dat Swag Juice (http://youtu.be/7vDeQhJnXdE)

Silent
07-27-2013, 07:10 AM
So let me get this straight, You say Lite boxed back in the days when you guilded with him but you never reported him for it despite all the shit talking you are saying now about it being equivalent to hacking and quoting amelindas post? But wasn't that over a year or two ago, Why now do you all of a sudden decide to bring up boxing? Is it because you know your own members run MQ and YOU are trying to deflect?

I gotta give nizzar props for recording a so called 2 box of a couple select videos where one player moves, then another player moves. All the while hes abusing the bugged OOR lvl dispell. Go record another 100hrs of video and pick out what could be 2 minutes of anything.

There are obviously members in nihi who run MQ, Just because your in the guild doesn't mean your privy to everything especially something that could get multiple characters/accounts banned if any word is leaked to wrong person. Though seeing all the up and coming <enter the 2 newest pvp guilds on red with former vztz'ers> and other people playing.

Yes sometimes people can get a lucky cast off on a ghost. Other times its just so blatant you can't use the ghost excuse forever. When playing vs AoE pvp I am very familiar with ghosted chars especially since I zone faster then most. Easy way to beat this is to simply zone hop, Or if you can afford to take the damage. Zone and pray you have no ghost left behind while you run far out of range of said player so that even if they get one cast off it doesn't kill you. A recent encounter in lavastorm where my monk was ice cometed(while my brother sat there and watched from OOR char at sola entrance) I had a 15-20 second head start zoning out of sol a, I ran up the hill past the goblins down the hill and kept running a bit further and started camping as the zone was still empty of only us two. 15 seconds into camp I am hit with a ice comet while said wizard never ran any further then then out of the cave entrance of sol a yet acquired target on my monk. Now as far as I know only AoE's have a no range check, Maybe I wasn't far enough away and Ice comet was in range and it didnt take the world between us into effect. Sometimes you get beat up, or die and suck it up. Sometimes a certain encounter can sit there and puzzle you as to how it happened.


tl;dr version - some of nihi run MQ confirmed, nizzar attempts to post video evidence of 2 boxing but instead records himself OOR exploit pelling level 60s on a level 30 enchanter. Tomato_king still plays on red confirmed. I whined about possible MQ /target hax. Agatha wants to eat tomato swag.

Colgate
07-27-2013, 07:23 AM
didn't read thread

don't like to cry hax but video looks highly suspicious of nizzar using /face, with my good ol pal hpt added to the group would not surprise me if he uses it

would explain how he beelined to me at a random point behind a tree way out in feerrott the other day despite me having 15 second headstart run before he got into the zone

either way /face doesn't save him from being an awful player, don't really care, box still sucks at the end of the day

Kinamara
07-27-2013, 08:42 AM
There is a lot of accusations in this thread. Only one person has posted proof of cheating / boxing.

What was supposed to be a big campaign against our guild backfired x10.

Quit the propaganda and post proof of people breaking the rules..if there was any, it would be all over this thread already.

To sum the thread up: Lite accuses dreadtoker for cheating by posting a video of him getting shot right after zoning. This is completely normal due to the ghost standing at zone for easy targetting. Nizzar posts a video of Lite blatantly obviously boxing Cheeseycakes. A lot of people post trash in the thread to hide the facts.

lite
07-27-2013, 09:15 AM
didn't read thread

don't like to cry hax but video looks highly suspicious of nizzar using /face, with my good ol pal hpt added to the group would not surprise me if he uses it

would explain how he beelined to me at a random point behind a tree way out in feerrott the other day despite me having 15 second headstart run before he got into the zone

either way /face doesn't save him from being an awful player, don't really care, box still sucks at the end of the day


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwiM3MwCv4c

I don't know Colgate. This video clearly shows that Nizzar does not go looking for people out in the middle of feerot. He clearly for no reason Turns right back around immidiately in perfect angles.....facing you....right back to the zone in....where there's noone...

SamwiseRed
07-27-2013, 09:18 AM
lite i love the effort but people been hacking/cheating/boxing this box since day 1. some get caught, some dont. shits like that in every game. all we can do is

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m76uxj6zMI1rqfhi2o1_400.gif

Kinamara
07-27-2013, 09:27 AM
.

lite
07-27-2013, 09:41 AM
Yeah, because that could not possibly be the wizard you procc'ed at zone screaming for help on TS.

Please explain the movement of Lite / Cheeseycakes though..

The video clearly shows him turning around at the 43 second mark, at the 44 second mark Salt enters the zone. Then at the 49 Second mark Samuell finally enters the zone in. When I arrive at them I hit nizzar first, and then I switch targets to Samuell ... 0 Procs occured. Clearly Observation is not your thing. PS .... Keep an eye on the center Chat box. It updates who is in the zone nonstop.

This is a whole 8 seconds after Nizzar already "magically" decided to turn around. Even though he always follows his Targets into the middle of feerot and finds them( Colgate , Sickpuppy ) . This time for some reason, he knew he didn't need to. Weird..

Clearly observation is not your thing, you should stay out of this. You are only incriminating Nizzar further by not being able to properly interpret the cheating clearly shown to you.

Kinamara
07-27-2013, 09:46 AM
I missed the explanation of Lite / Cheeseycakes movement at KC?

lite
07-27-2013, 09:51 AM
So I crushed your idea that a Wizard that wasn't even yet in the zone instructed him to turn around, which was your best opinion for why he turned around INSTANTLY while facing me. Does this mean that your mind is now open to the possibility that he was cheating ? If not, I want to hear another alternative opinion. And this time, please actually watch the video, rather than blindly trying to defend him. Proc'd on a wizard who called for help .... LOL

Kinamara
07-27-2013, 09:57 AM
You're right, I did not watch the video carefully. It could be that the wizard said Salt was zoning before he zoned - dunno.

However, I'm still missing the explanation for Cheeseycakes and Lite taking turns on moving.

lite
07-27-2013, 10:05 AM
Ok Now I want you to rewatch the video and keep replaying 40-42 seconds. Watch the perfect facing alignment towards me hidden inside the wall, as illustrated in this picture. Are you not open to the idea that the Facing speed is kind of Robotic and the facing angle is kind of perfectly aligned with me ? He doesn't do a 180 into the wallway. He does more like a 140 Directly to me. Carefully observe the character's body alignment.

http://i.imgur.com/A4F2Sfb.png


PS i am not dismissing you. I will be glad to discuss the idea that I was boxing. I just want to have people analyze what it is that is going here, for what it is.

lite
07-27-2013, 10:15 AM
http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/other/grand/fd7b879e4e63796a04de94edaa2b89d6.gif

Here, I went one better and made a Gif. Even in Gif slower motion the turning speed is just unrealistic, In addition to that. He even takes a few steps towards Wanyo, before realigning himself towards the hallway.

heartbrand
07-27-2013, 10:20 AM
I agree ban nizzar, grats tune new leader.

Dullah
07-27-2013, 10:23 AM
Ya, he was /facing him and he didn't even notice his legs sticking out of the wall. Can this get any dumber? Surely nizzar of all people wouldn't miss a pair of legs.

lite
07-27-2013, 10:27 AM
Ya, he was /facing him and he didn't even notice his legs sticking out of the wall. Can this get any dumber? Surely nizzar of all people wouldn't miss a pair of legs.

cept he did ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=JwiM3MwCv4c&t=29

Advanced Stealth tactics, dawg.

lite
07-27-2013, 10:29 AM
Also Ender it's so nice to have you in this thread, as your guild also never turned you in during your years of cheating. Thank god you got all your 60's banned, you scumbag cheater.

Jepaxis
07-27-2013, 10:33 AM
There is a lot of accusations in this thread. Only one person has posted proof of cheating / boxing.

What was supposed to be a big campaign against our guild backfired x10.

Quit the propaganda and post proof of people breaking the rules..if there was any, it would be all over this thread already.

To sum the thread up: Lite accuses dreadtoker for cheating by posting a video of him getting shot right after zoning. This is completely normal due to the ghost standing at zone for easy targetting. Nizzar posts a video of Lite blatantly obviously boxing Cheeseycakes. A lot of people post trash in the thread to hide the facts.
I've watched Nizzarr video and there's certainly not definitive proof in it and as for ghosting, ghost would only happen if the person who ghosted had moved out of the update radius which is a lot larger than around the corner from the zone out, so it wasn't ghost targetting.

HeisChuck
07-27-2013, 10:36 AM
dullah had like 250 days /played flushed down the toilet

Dullah
07-27-2013, 10:36 AM
Also Ender it's so nice to have you in this thread, as your guild also never turned you in during your years of cheating. Thank god you got all your 60's banned, you scumbag cheater.

Lot of anger in that remark. Never cheated, big Sirk as my witness.

You however, don't have a leg left to stand on. Busted and another suspension if not a ban surely imminent. Still 0 evidence of me ever cheating.

mad as fuck

lite
07-27-2013, 10:40 AM
Lot of anger in that remark. Never cheated, big Sirk as my witness.

You however, don't have a leg left to stand on. Busted and another suspension if not a ban surely imminent. Still 0 evidence of me ever cheating.

mad as fuck

so why'd u get all your accounts banned, brah?

lite
07-27-2013, 10:42 AM
I've watched Nizzarr video and there's certainly not definitive proof in it and as for ghosting, ghost would only happen if the person who ghosted had moved out of the update radius which is a lot larger than around the corner from the zone out, so it wasn't ghost targetting.


Exactly why I posted the video despite being familiar with Ghost remaining at the zone line. That sort of thing does not occur when the person does not gain substantial distance. Can a GM please confirm that those are in facts the mechanics around ghosting ?

lite
07-27-2013, 10:50 AM
In addition to that, IF dreadtoker's Client was perceiving my ghost at the zone in. (Which we've stablished it couldn't have been) Then he would have been told that I am too close to him to shoot me with range, since he's ontop of me.

His character Faces me as it shoots the arrow for fucks sake. His client was in perfect Synchronization with real time events.

http://i.imgur.com/Qww1NKb.jpg

heartbrand
07-27-2013, 10:57 AM
Lite step away from the computer bro

heartbrand
07-27-2013, 10:57 AM
dullah had like 250 days /played flushed down the toilet

Motherfucker needs Jesus in his life for sure

Giovanni
07-27-2013, 12:04 PM
MQ usage has had little impact on my enjoyment of the server.

Boxing has had a large impact on my enjoyment of the server.

Not sure how many "cousins" people have in LA, Chicago, or Guam of all places.

Combobreaker
07-27-2013, 12:18 PM
I just wanna say that maybe hiding in holes & walls isnt the best bet for PvP

lite
07-27-2013, 12:34 PM
MQ usage has had little impact on my enjoyment of the server.

Having Nihilum immidiately knowing where you are in Timorous deep, even though you were in the zone 15 minutes ahead of them and set your raid up on a random eastern island instead of chessboard..... Yeah, that can have a bit of an impact.

Labanen
07-27-2013, 12:52 PM
instantly ? oh wow, then next time we wont have to have bard/ranger squads waste time locating you like we did last time. Good to know.

big league chew
07-27-2013, 12:57 PM
http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/other/grand/fd7b879e4e63796a04de94edaa2b89d6.gif

Here, I went one better and made a Gif. Even in Gif slower motion the turning speed is just unrealistic, In addition to that. He even takes a few steps towards Wanyo, before realigning himself towards the hallway.

i finally get it
at first i was like DUHH HE SEES FEET
but he didnt

that 2 box shit pretty damning too

ban everyone in this thread besides me & maybe 2 other ppl

Kinamara
07-27-2013, 01:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ2Uj...ature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQ2Uj2WYu3o&feature=youtu.be)


PS i am not dismissing you. I will be glad to discuss the idea that I was boxing. I just want to have people analyze what it is that is going here, for what it is.

Still waiting for this.

Colgate
07-27-2013, 01:02 PM
dullah had like 250 days /played flushed down the toilet

Jepaxis
07-27-2013, 01:22 PM
MQ usage has had little impact on my enjoyment of the server.

Boxing has had a large impact on my enjoyment of the server.

You're either a lier or an idiot; I choose both.

Although boxing may have moderate impact on pvp, such as being able to buff yourself up, but no one does it during pvp unless they want to be obviously caught or just get one of their toons ganked. Ya, just can't really effectively pvp while boxing.

MQ on the other hand gives you lots of advantages like knowing where your target is or where to avoid being the target. Worse, the use of things like /stick which I know I've been attacked using, really makes it impossible to lose a melee. Either one of these features alone gives someone a huge advantage.

Tomato King6
07-27-2013, 01:50 PM
im pro boxing, would make leveling easier and groups formed easier too

helps everyone.

Jepaxis
07-27-2013, 01:59 PM
im pro boxing, would make leveling easier and groups formed easier too

helps everyone.
I agree this server actually NEEDS boxing. At least during slower hours.

You can spend hours spinning your wheels at times waiting for a group to form up; at least one that doesn't suck ass or one that do something more than just kill for XP.

Nads
07-27-2013, 02:04 PM
Some of you need to seriously chill the fuck out. It's a game. Relax.

lite
07-27-2013, 02:45 PM
So, we've established that you can not acquire a target if ....
/target doesn't work if you dont have LOS


I was out of LoS , check !

ghost would only happen if the person who ghosted had moved out of the update radius which is a lot larger than around the corner from the zone out, so it wasn't ghost targetting.

I was in way too close to generate a Ghost...(In addition to that the ghost excuse is lame because then he would have seen me ontop of him and the client wuda claimed I was too close to hit with range)

But yet... This occurred. Anyone else got a defense for dreadtoker ? I am looking to be proven wrong here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky2p2JpgTaE

heartbrand
07-27-2013, 03:11 PM
Ghosts happen all the time and have nothing to do with being in some sort of imaginary radius, and you can target ghosts. This is a common occurrence on red not sure why this has reached like twenty pages. People need to go outside, beach is nice.

Elderan
07-27-2013, 03:59 PM
Having Nihilum immidiately knowing where you are in Timorous deep, even though you were in the zone 15 minutes ahead of them and set your raid up on a random eastern island instead of chessboard..... Yeah, that can have a bit of an impact.

Really?

You cannot be this dumb man.

We zone in, we send bards with rangers in 3-4 directions. After 5-7 min we locate you. We come kill you. All this was happening in TS live as it happened.

Could it be.. and now I may be crazy here lite. That Nizzar is just a better player than you?

Also you still have not explained why cheeseycakes is not moving when lite its and lite is not moving when cheeseycakes is in that video.

Colgate
07-27-2013, 04:06 PM
That Nizzar is just a better player than you?

ha
hahaha

hahaahahhahhaah

HAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAH

Awwalike
07-27-2013, 07:24 PM
lite dum as evr

Tomato King6
07-27-2013, 09:00 PM
dunno northwest your posts are either

tite

or

huh

or

wut

I think you are as dumb as a bucket of shrimp

Syft
07-27-2013, 10:18 PM
I was never sold on the corruption topic until I saw HPT blatantly hack infront of me, reported it and nothing happened to him.

I've seen him port directly to the zone the player he was just fighting was bound in, run into the middle of T.Deep and OOT on player he could have never gotten a target on to bindsight. Train with insta poof out at raptors(could have been gate pot but doubt it). And best of all I've seen him appear in south ro and OOT the second the AC spawned on many occasions.

And despite multiple petitions from me and other's that witnessed it nothing happened.
So to me two boxing is a BS complaint compared to Blatant hacks, which were immediate PERMA BAN offenses on live.

Colgate
07-27-2013, 11:16 PM
you realize that hpt got permabanned weeks ago for MQ2 use, right?

Silent
07-27-2013, 11:18 PM
I remember when nihi found us on that faydedar attempt, Don't even try that bard/ranger bullshit. You had one bard, Tune, in the zone ahead of your raid. Tune never found us, Then immediately as the next boat floated in everyone ran straight in the general direction of us. We had people testing track as we did this, To make sure we weren't in tracking distance. So Bard + ranger group tracking excuse failed. Try again.

lite
07-27-2013, 11:19 PM
Yup, unfortunately in the process he provided with much of Nihilum with a currently undetectable MQ. The only reason he got caught is cus someone actually turned him in and assisted the GM's in catching him.

lite
07-27-2013, 11:20 PM
I remember when nihi found us on that faydedar attempt, Don't even try that bard/ranger bullshit. You had one bard, Tune, in the zone ahead of your raid. Tune never found us, Then immediately as the next boat floated in everyone ran straight in the general direction of us. We had people testing track as we did this, To make sure we weren't in tracking distance. So Bard + ranger group tracking excuse failed. Try again.

I don't doubt that this is what they were telling their more out of the loop members though.

Bazia
07-27-2013, 11:21 PM
if you dont think people have been running showeq through linux on p99 since its creation you are a moran

its just something you gotta deal with

Awwalike
07-27-2013, 11:24 PM
TITE ghost

Syft
07-27-2013, 11:55 PM
you realize that hpt got permabanned weeks ago for MQ2 use, right?

I reported him on 6-13-13 for obvious hacks being used so if he wasn't banned within 7days of that then yea I call BS. I have seen many players banned on various pvp server's on live and they didn't require anywhere near as much proof to do it.

HeisChuck
07-28-2013, 12:01 AM
I boxed 2 chars all the way to 59 in little over 2 weeks

who the fuck wants to rely on ppl who suck at this game?


http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l5ia1is9QH1qze5g2o1_400.gif

Pudge
07-28-2013, 12:12 AM
dumb as a bucket of shrimp

i like this. insult has kindof a down-south appeal

Tomato King6
07-28-2013, 11:41 AM
nobody still gives a fuck , but keep bumping

Labanen
07-28-2013, 12:46 PM
I remember when nihi found us on that faydedar attempt, Don't even try that bard/ranger bullshit. You had one bard, Tune, in the zone ahead of your raid. Tune never found us, Then immediately as the next boat floated in everyone ran straight in the general direction of us. We had people testing track as we did this, To make sure we weren't in tracking distance. So Bard + ranger group tracking excuse failed. Try again.the bard isnt there to find anyone. the bard is there to move the ranger around. Cyborella found you, could ve been dreadtoker or Puddems, but i think it was Cyborella that time.

Labanen
07-28-2013, 12:48 PM
actually think both Dekadenz and Twainz was there as well. But i am not gonna go through logs to see who it was.

Rushmore
07-28-2013, 01:06 PM
This is funny coming from the guy who boxes multiples characters EVERYDAY. I can't wait until you get smashed by the banhammer. Less QQ more pewpew