Velious Sleeper Pre/Post-woken Exclusive Items

[zanderklocke]

With rumors of Velious coming out within the next year, I thought it might be interesting to have a compilation of items that will exclusively drop prior to the sleeper being woken. If anyone can indicate that new loot drops after the sleeper is woken on a classic Velious server, I'll add this information into the thread.

My knowledge on the subject is only from reading Allakhazam, as I never raided Velious when I played live. I know Sleeper's Tomb was revamped some time after Velious, but I'm not sure when. So if anyone has input so I can get this list correct to the classic Velious timeline, please provide it in this thread.

Once the list is correct based on the timeline information people can give me in the thread, I will just edit this post to be a list.

Pre-woken Kerafyrm Exclusive Items*:
Blue Resistance Stone: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6006
Clawed Guardian Bracer: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4809
Dainty Gloves: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4810
Dragon Scaled Mask: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5622
Green Resistance Stone: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6446
Mask of Tinkering: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4811
Red Resistance Stone: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5622
Salindrite Dagger: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4812
Sceptre of Destruction: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6090
Shield of the Clawed Guardian: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=20263
Shroud of Longevity: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4808
Smolder: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6091
Staff of the Elder Claws: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6504
Staff of the Morning Dew: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5621
White Resistance Stone: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6092

*Did not include Primal Weapons because they still drop (although less often) from The Progenitor and The Final Arbiter.


Post-woken Kerafyrm Exclusive Items*:
Nothing. (Sleeper's Tomb 2.0 revamp came later past the Velious expansion.)

[Arteker]

Nope, prismatics where released in stormhammer in luclin expansion when devs changed old sleeper after it was awakened by TR. months later was released to general servers.

[zanderklocke]

So is there anything new added that drops after Sleeper is woken?

[Arteker]

nothing the final insult is turn your quests itens and key into mela in WW and move to farm ntov like a pro.

[zanderklocke]

I am correct that Primals are still obtainable from the Progenitor and Final Arbiter?

[Arteker]

I am correct that Primals are still obtainable from the Progenitor and Final Arbiter?

yes they are . i awakened the sleeper in 3 servers and can confirm u will have not troubles for getting a primal (not warder loot) with some patience even if its awakened in p99.

[Splorf22]

i awakened the sleeper on 3 servers

!!

[zanderklocke]

nothing the final insult is turn your quests itens and key into mela in WW and move to farm ntov like a pro.

Hmm... I suppose I should have renamed this thread Pre-woken Sleeper Exclusive Loot.

[akahdrin]

I hope no one wakes up it. The server only loses out.

[Ravhin]

Thanks for this nice list, I added it here: http://wiki.project1999.org/Removed_Items#Velious

Noticed while doing so you missed "Writ of Dragonkind"

[zanderklocke]

Thanks for this nice list, I added it here: http://wiki.project1999.org/Removed_Items#Velious

Noticed while doing so you missed "Writ of Dragonkind"

Awesome. Wiki page probably more useful than a forums post.

[zanderklocke]

I hope no one wakes up it. The server only loses out.

Three categories of people desire to wake the sleeper. None of the categories are mutually exclusive.

1. Those that want to witness the live event of Kerafyrm terrorizing Velious.

2. Those that have no desire to gear alts and want their characters with exclusive warder items to stand out and be elite compared to other characters on the server.

3. Those that want to compensate for low self-esteem or lack of attention in real life by griefing other players on a computer game. You can see Relaspse's thread in Rants and Flames of waking the Sleeper on EQMac.

Personally, if the server were ever going to shut down for some extenuating circumstance, I think it would be cool if the server globally came together to wake the Sleeper as a last hurrah.

[Swish]

3. Those that want to compensate for low self-esteem or lack of attention in real life by griefing other players on a computer game.

This will be the reason it's done here... too many people chasing infamy :p

[bulbousaur]

1. Those that want to witness the live event of Kerafyrm terrorizing Velious.

I really don't expect that the devs here would bother trying to script something as complex as this. From what I recall, it didn't really work on live back in the day.

[Arteker]

I really don't expect that the devs here would bother trying to script something as complex as this. From what I recall, it didn't really work on live back in the day.

it worked prety well in solusek ro, antonius bayle and stormhammer:p

[falkun]

I really don't expect that the devs here would bother trying to script something as complex as this. From what I recall, it didn't really work on live back in the day.

You underestimate the Dev's desire for "Classic."

[Ele]

I really don't expect that the devs here would bother trying to script something as complex as this. From what I recall, it didn't really work on live back in the day.

*Spawn giant ghost dragon
*Path from spawn to zone out
*DT everyone in the zone along the way to the next zone line.

[FenninEQaddict]

When was the sleeper first woken on live? It was still during Velious right?

[Aeolwind]

When was the sleeper first woken on live? It was still during Velious right?

he was killed on emarr first, while still bugged. Da'Kor got him maybe a month or 2 into Velious? They locked down Zland and Kland and no one could figure out why (no 'l33t b3t4 1nf0z'), or at the time beat LTK, Sont, or Yeli.

[zanderklocke]

(no 'l33t b3t4 1nf0z')

"No elite '?' infos?"

What the heck does that say...sorry I'm not up on 1337 speech.

[Rhambuk]

I hope its a long time before the sleeper is awakened but it will and needs to happen.

Bards/rogues will want Dwarf masks!

Edit to add the best illusion item ever!

http://zam.zamimg.com/images/d/c/dc9d190f09d7f078ac7fa1cd2f3e0c0b.png

[Ele]

"No elite '?' infos?"

What the heck does that say...sorry I'm not up on 1337 speech.


beta

[SamwiseRed]

beta, also hope the sleeper is awoken first month.

[zanderklocke]

Aha, I see it now.

[zanderklocke]

I hope its a long time before the sleeper is awakened but it needs to happen.

Opinion noted.

[Ele]

I hope its a long time before the sleeper is awakened but it will and needs to happen.

Bards/rogues will want Dwarf masks!

gnome mask!

Dwarf mask is Sleepers 2.0 (upgrade with new ancients, not the post-awakening version)

[zanderklocke]

Bards/rogues will want Dwarf masks!

http://zam.zamimg.com/images/d/c/dc9d190f09d7f078ac7fa1cd2f3e0c0b.png

Pretty sure that isn't classic and won't be added to the server. Others can confirm?

[Rhambuk]

gnome mask!

Dwarf mask is Sleepers 2.0 (upgrade with new ancients, not the post-awakening version)

well i fail =p

so loot doesnt change when the sleeper awakens? no reason to not wake him then?

[Ele]

June 19, 2001
http://web.archive.org/web/200106191...il.asp?ID=3945

Sceptre of Destruction
MAGIC ITEM
Skill: 1H Blunt Atk Delay: 18
DMG: 10
STR: +10 DEX: +10 STA: +10 HP: +50
Effect: Anarchy
WT: 0.2
Class: WAR CLR PAL RNG SHD DRU MNK BRD ROG SHM
Race: ALL


August 15, 2001
http://web.archive.org/web/200108150...il.asp?ID=3945


Sceptre of Destruction
MAGIC ITEM
Skill: 1H Blunt Atk Delay: 18
DMG: 12
STR: +10 DEX: +10 STA: +10 HP: +50 MANA: +50
Effect: Anarchy
WT: 0.2
Class: WAR CLR PAL RNG SHD DRU MNK BRD ROG SHM
Race: ALL

[zanderklocke]

The reason to not wake him would be to keep scepter of destruction, gnome mask, and other items, as listed in the first post in the thread, still dropping in the game.

[Ele]

Don't forget pre-2hb upgrades on the primals!

http://i.imgur.com/2BtSOnA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rKfIfLs.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/URBSHxt.jpg

[Rhambuk]

laaaame, well lets form a kerefyrm protectors guild then, when a raid kills 3 dragons we train the SH!T out of them so they cant do the 4th

[zanderklocke]

Don't forget pre-2hb upgrades on the primals!

http://i.imgur.com/2BtSOnA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rKfIfLs.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/URBSHxt.jpg

Those all still drop from the Progenitor before and after Kerafyrm is woken though, right?

[zanderklocke]

laaaame, well lets form a kerefyrm protectors guild then, when a raid kills 3 dragons we train the SH!T out of them so they cant do the 4th

Now you can see why there is certain controversy when certain guilds indicate they have a desire to wake the sleeper.

[Rhambuk]

Now you can see why there is certain controversy when certain guilds indicate they have a desire to wake the sleeper.

the only thing that matters is that server first list....apparently it means something to some people

[Ele]

well i fail =p

so loot doesnt change when the sleeper awakens? no reason to not wake him then?

Sleepers 1.0 (This server's only version) has pre-awakening and post-awakening modes.

Pre-awakening (i.e. never killing all 4 warders at once, always leaving at least one alive)
The items dropped are what is listed in the original post.

Post-awakening (releasing the sleeper, all 4 warders are dead at the same time)
The items listed in the original post, except for primals, never drop again.

Sleepers 2.0 is a much later revamp that includes dragons called "Ancients", which this server probably won't see due to timeline issues.

[Ele]

March 19, 2002: Sleeper's Tomb Key is now Soulbound.

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20020319.html

Real risk up in this place.

[zanderklocke]

the only thing that matters is that server first list....apparently it means something to some people

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=94220&highlight=woke+sleeper

These people exist on P99.

TMO has claimed they have no desire to wake the sleeper, and I don't see why they would because they would want to farm it for their alts.

However, I seem to recall IB indicating they have a desire to wake the sleeper. I think it would be very interesting to see what type of train wars might happen with whoever decides they want to kill the last warder. I could see a full server collaboration among guilds to stop the last warder being killed.

[Ele]

Those all still drop from the Progenitor before and after Kerafyrm is woken though, right?

Yeah, they get a general upgrade along with a bunch of other 2-handers in the weapon upgrade toward the end of Velious. Those are how they should appear 33/35 rather than 45/44 post-upgrade patch.

[zanderklocke]

Yeah, they get a general upgrade along with a bunch of other 2-handers in the weapon upgrade toward the end of Velious. Those are how they should appear 33/35 rather than 45/44 post-upgrade patch.

Man, I love the info you have. It's great.

[Rhambuk]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=94220&highlight=woke+sleeper

These people exist on P99.

TMO has claimed they have no desire to wake the sleeper, and I don't see why they would because they would want to farm it for their alts.

However, I seem to recall IB indicating they have a desire to wake the sleeper. I think it would be very interesting to see what type of train wars might happen with whoever decides they want to kill the last warder. I could see a full server collaboration among guilds to stop the last warder being killed.

Would probably be the funnest server event in p99 history, having a majority of players/guilds on one side or the other.

[Nirgon]

laaaame, well lets form a kerefyrm protectors guild then, when a raid kills 3 dragons we train the SH!T out of them so they cant do the 4th

TMO will definitely be training IB in there given time

Orville makes some gr8 popcorn

Hopefully keys are correctly body bound and not soul bound

Shit will get classic fast

[Nirgon]

And I thought the primals got bumped to 51 top end damage

[Rhambuk]

TMO will definitely be training IB in there given time

Orville makes some gr8 popcorn

Hopefully keys are correctly body bound and not soul bound

Shit will get classic fast

VP keys were supposed to be body bound werent they? or are they....

vp is a joke here anyway, shame could've been a lot of fun.

[zanderklocke]

Hopefully keys are correctly body bound and not soul bound

Shit will get classic fast

I think if I ever ended up in a situation in which I couldn't get my corpse back without doing a key quest again, I'd permanently be done. In 2013, I don't have the patience or time for that sort of thing.

[Rhambuk]

I think if I ever ended up in a situation in which I couldn't get my corpse back without doing a key quest again, I'd permanently be done. In 2013, I don't have the patience or time for that sort of thing.

its not like your the only person with a key )

Back in the day when raids would wipe in vp they would have to ask other VP capable guilds to rescue them. Rep actually mattered because if you were a dink guild theyd let you rot, and supposedly lots of people lost epic characters to corpse rot.

but here you just have to wait a week and let your corpse rot, /petition and they resummon it to you.

[Nirgon]

Seb and HS keys were both body bound for a long time, but were changed

If we killed an enemy guild member in seb, we charged them a necro sac (or 2 if we really hated them) to get it 0% rezzed back

I loved Verant's stance on high risk zones

Please make it so for Sleeper's

Rogean will taste the finest popcorn he has ever tasted watching his "favorites" ruin each other

[Ele]

VP keys were supposed to be body bound werent they? or are they....

vp is a joke here anyway, shame could've been a lot of fun.

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20000719.html

Was changed in July 2000 or ~3 months after Kunark release. Sebilis and HS keys were also body bound until that patch. HS keys were also tradeable. lol

[zanderklocke]

Seb and HS keys were both body bound for a long time, but were changed

If we killed an enemy guild member in seb, we charged them a necro sac (or 2 if we really hated them) to get it 0% rezzed back.


It's funny, playing PVP on live just sounds like an entirely different game from what I played back in 2000/2001.

I played blue because I never had desire to kill others or work against others really, I was more interested in beating the game's environment and mobs. Although that mentality isn't as easy to hold on P99 due to higher end content being over crowded, I've still never felt the desire to train competition or wish I could kill their character. I could never see myself charging someone money to get their body after I just griefed them; I would feel way too much guilt.

[Arteker]

I hope its a long time before the sleeper is awakened but it will and needs to happen.

Bards/rogues will want Dwarf masks!

Edit to add the best illusion item ever!

http://zam.zamimg.com/images/d/c/dc9d190f09d7f078ac7fa1cd2f3e0c0b.png

thats a revamped st 2,0 item

[Rhambuk]

thats a revamped st 2,0 item

so i've heard =)

unfortunate though, dorf bards would be epic. at least we'll see dok 2.0 here and get halfling bards.

[Nirgon]

You wouldn't feel bad doing it to certain people, trust me

[zanderklocke]

Takes bigger balls to walk away from a fight or ignore others harassing you sometimes. At least that's the motto I've always sort of lived by. Kept me out of fights I suppose. I mean, I assume that whenever people fuck with me in computer games, just for the sake of fucking with me, they're usually compensating for lack of something in their real life. I dunno what that thing is, but I feel bad for them more than wanting to retaliate.