Praise be to the TMO guys, Drumas and Qubhed who came out to CoM last night!

[Eighter]

Just wanted to send out a huge thank you for help getting my Spear of Fate last night.

Biggslick, Luchinno, Ghomie, and Icare from TMO, Drumas from A-Team and Qubhed from BDA I really appreciate it. I was sitting on that tear for close a year now!

Eighter

[Swish]

If they feel like letting a Ragefire spawn slip at any point so I can complete my cleric epic that would be incredibly awesome too :D

Grats Eighter, lovely looking epic :)

[Barkingturtle]

I was sitting on that tear for close (to) a year now!



Your butt must be really wet.

Grats on epic.

[skipdog]

Take your TMO bashing to RNF. Some of you are just so toxic with your jealousy. It's sad.

[Jarnauga]

freaking communists

[FenninEQaddict]

Congratulations! There was a time when people were actually happy for others accomplishments.

Im not real familiar with this servers politics yet but there seems to be alot of animosity towards TMO here for some reason.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Im not real familiar with this servers politics yet but there seems to be alot of animosity towards TMO here for some reason.

It's mostly a combination of 1) tensions between the "social" and "hyper-competitive" play styles, 2) top-dog hate, 3) legitimate complaint vis a vis endgame content monopolization, 4) haters, and 5) mouth breathers on both sides who like to hit each other with rolled up newspapers and flick boogers.

[RevengeofGio]

It's mostly a combination of 1) tensions between the "social" and "hyper-competitive" play styles, 2) top-dog hate, 3) legitimate complain vis a vis endgame content monopolization, 4) haters, and 5) mouth breathers on both sides who like to hit each other with rolled up newspapers and flick boogers.

As I found out on EQ Live's progression server the social guilds are usually *worse* in terms of politics. Leaders have even bigger egos etc... God help you if you get the dreaded husband and wife co-guild leaders.

[heartbrand]

I feel for TMO this is pretty much what red forums are like but a bit nastier and replace the word TMO with Nihilum

[kotton05]

Epic shMn grats:)

[spoils]

God help you if you get the dreaded husband and wife co-guild leaders.

Ex-Wrathful Inquisition like myself?

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

It's mostly a combination of 1) tensions between the "social" and "hyper-competitive" play styles, 2) top-dog hate, 3) legitimate complaint vis a vis endgame content monopolization, 4) haters, and 5) mouth breathers on both sides who like to hit each other with rolled up newspapers and flick boogers.

When you're a Jet, you're a Jet all the way

[A1551]

congrats man! Told ya it wasn't too hard to make that last epic fight happen! Just wish I coulda come too lol

[Servellious]

Congratulations! There was a time when people were actually happy for others accomplishments.

Im not real familiar with this servers politics yet but there seems to be alot of animosity towards TMO here for some reason.

its blind hate.

[Ashintar]

Congrats on your epic, I was happy to heal for you.

[MaksimMazor]

Blind hate confirmed

[Hailto]

all praise be to allah

[Crimsonghost]

Congrats Eighter! Glad to see you got it done, soloing just became very, very easy :)

CG

[RevengeofGio]

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=110009

TMO trains a guild

GMs do absolutely nothing about it as usual. They literally are useless when it comes to enforcing their own rules if it's against TMO or Nihilum. Everyone else gets punished.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=68664

TMO blatantly exploiting in front of a GM, no bans.

That's just two reasons everyone hates TMO. They're cheating pieces of shit and the staff are obviously complicit, seeing as no bans have occurred.

Seems kind of baseless without a reason: why? Now if the GM staff is in TMO then sure I could see it, but why otherwise?

Are they the only donors?

If they are the only donors then yeah that's sort of P2W, but if they stopped donating.... where does the server go?

So.... WHY?

Also - if they are "cheating"... what's the point? This isn't a huge community... its like cheating in Mortal Kombat against your friend.

[Swish]

Donors - on that subject we're back to the P99 account book. Is the server making a loss still from a lack of donors?

[Frieza_Prexus]

Seems kind of baseless without a reason: why? Now if the GM staff is in TMO then sure I could see it, but why otherwise?

Are they the only donors?

If they are the only donors then yeah that's sort of P2W, but if they stopped donating.... where does the server go?

So.... WHY?

Also - if they are "cheating"... what's the point? This isn't a huge community... its like cheating in Mortal Kombat against your friend.

You can generally ignore Harrison. He's fixated within his own reality, and refuses to acknowledge the mere possibility that he's mistaken.

Most of the claims that TMO "cheats" stem from this thread here: http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=68671

Long story short, TMO invis pulled VP dragons to a ledge that was otherwise mob free and totally safe. On occasion, say one every six or seven pulls, the dragons would inexplicably warp through the walls onto the raid. However, this was random and conferred no benefit whatsoever because of how invis pulling works (any dragon can be solo pulled in VP via this mechanic without warping, thus the warp confers no benefit).

Amelinda initially warned us off claiming that our use of "warping" was in violation of the rules, but quickly changed her explanation discussed here: http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=591737&postcount=46
This is because we demonstrated that the warp was not intentional and that it gave no benefit whatsoever.

However, Harrison refuses to acknowledge Amelinda's later reasoning that TMO was not cheating because she's "corrupt." However, it is convenient for him to use her earlier, incorrect, conclusions against us so he does so. If you decide to read up on this subject, you'll find that he's rather selective about his facts. In fact, he categorically avoids any form of debate or discussion on the topic and he refuses to defend his points.

Examples:
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=591420&postcount=29
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=592272&postcount=85
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=593242&postcount=143
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=593331&postcount=149
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=593346&postcount=153
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=593877&postcount=159
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=594047&postcount=174
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=594190&postcount=185
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=595124&postcount=212
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=601466&postcount=395

And that's just one thread.

At the end of the day, TMO has done a few wrongs which were punished to the same extent that any other guild would receive. However, there is no widespread public "cheating" of any nature that Harrison would have you think there is. If you research his post history (no easy task given that you'd be tracking it across 40+ banned accounts), you'll find that he's pushed this same agenda against TMO since we merged with Dark Ascension. The only thing that's changed is that he's selectively adopted facts since then to make his hatred seem more legitimate when he's just justifying it after the fact.

Bonus round: You'll find that Harrison's responses are generally limited to one of three types, so I'm going to link them all and save him the trouble of responding.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=909151&postcount=229
Lol this lawyer wannabe faggot knowingly stays in a guild that has been proven to cheat, hack, and exploit content, and acts like he's morally superior and defends the guild anyways.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=932663&postcount=74
Cheating at 12 year-old elf simulators with a corrupt GM allowing it for years
Bragging about your skill in the 12 year-old elf simulator you're cheating at

Annndddd, my personal favorite:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=961877&postcount=99
3,754 pictures.


Sadly for him, ctrl+v is not a substitute for wit.

[RevengeofGio]

It's 100% documented that they cheat. It's not even some super secret thing. Everyone knows it.

It's fucking posted by the very GM that watched them do it, and subsequently did nothing about it. (Because she was taking bribes to allow them to cheat amongst other things)

That isn't baseless. This shit really happened.

I read the links provided and didn't see "cheating"... training isn't cheating btw. Amelinda isn't even a GM anymore due to corruption.

So where's the beef? Why would TMO even cheat? Who is even competing with them?

[FenninEQaddict]

Thank you for the information it deffinately sheds some light on some of the things ive been reading here.

That was why I was curious a game around this long there is really no point now to exploit or cheat. It would be like using a Game Shark or Game Genie or other cheat code/exploit on Super Mario Brothers. Whats the point of playing if you cant lose?

[RevengeofGio]

Snip



From what I've read I agree with you. So let me ask you this on a pure curiosity note: does TMO actively try to foster competition? IE Leave some things up till prime time and see if you can encourage it? I'd like to raid at some point, but I'm not the kind of guy who can wake up at 3am during the week anymore.

(All based on heresay and past experience in EQ)

[Frieza_Prexus]

From what I've read I agree with you. So let me ask you this on a pure curiosity note: does TMO actively try to foster competition? IE Leave some things up till prime time and see if you can encourage it? I'd like to raid at some point, but I'm not the kind of guy who can wake up at 3am during the week anymore.

(All based on heresay and past experience in EQ)

Honestly, not in the way you put it. On occasion we used to leave select mobs up, but this policy was mostly abandoned for several reasons (some good, some bad, some silly)

The prevailing thought is "if you want it bad enough, you'll put in the effort." While I generally agree with that statement, I personally would like to leave more mobs up for everyone else than we currently do.

[RevengeofGio]

Honestly, not in the way you put it. On occasion we used to leave select mobs up, but this policy was mostly abandoned for several reasons (some good, some bad, some silly)

The prevailing thought is "if you want it bad enough, you'll put in the effort." While I generally agree with that statement, I personally would like to leave more mobs up for everyone else than we currently do.

Is TMO open to talking to another guild to leave certain mobs up?

I understand where you're coming from: if you guys don't then others will. In the end all it did was encourage more 3AM fights. However, what I don't get is that the majority of people who played EQ live during this time period are my age or older... how are we able to still do this stuff?

[Frieza_Prexus]

Is TMO open to talking to another guild to leave certain mobs up?

This is very possible in my view, but I do not presume to speak for the leadership.

how are we able to still do this stuff?

Batphones + laptops will tethered smartphones will enable surprisingly easy response to a raid call at all times of the day. Also, a lot of Euro's and Aussies play p99.

[Messianic]

Harrison, the perennial troll.

[Nirgon]

Luchino is a good guy

[Frieza_Prexus]

It's cute that he still thinks if he continues to post longwinded inane bullshit that it negates the fact you guys cheat and should all be banned as per the rules you blatantly broke countless times.(documented occurrences, all)

Don't be rustled that I cramped your style.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/5c65eaa684fef2fa9f70effcfbd85cd7/tumblr_mm7gpeVokp1r6aoq4o1_250.gif

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Thank you for the information it deffinately sheds some light on some of the things ive been reading here.

That was why I was curious a game around this long there is really no point now to exploit or cheat. It would be like using a Game Shark or Game Genie or other cheat code/exploit on Super Mario Brothers. Whats the point of playing if you cant lose?

world domination?


just a guess.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

how are we able to still do this stuff?

massive zerg roster + call lists + mandatory spawn camping.

it's not rocket science, but it is the worst guild structure eq ever suffered from. And, it owns p99.

Not complaining, just describing.

[Hex]

massive zerg roster + call lists + mandatory spawn camping.

it's not rocket science, but it is the worst guild structure eq ever suffered from. And, it owns p99.

Not complaining, just describing.

Many guilds had the same exact structure in live........ and over several games.

[Alarti0001]

You have no ability to do so. You just put a TL;DR every time someone rightfully outs your guild for the scum pit it is. Your attempt to spin a PR campaign when it's documented how awful you and your faggot friends are, is quite fucking pathetic.

No one is buying it.

The only more pathetic part is Sirken trying to claim he's the be all; end all of "legit" and yet his excuse for not banning the lot of you? "lol that happened X amount of time ago"

Sad. This project has so much to give and it's pissed on by unemployed manbabies.



Apparently, Sirken did not read the rules himself.

Harrison Faggotz response...

You're completely forgetting Paypalling GMs.

Harrison Corrupt GM response



Bonus round: You'll find that Harrison's responses are generally limited to one of three types, so I'm going to link them all and save him the trouble of responding.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=909151&postcount=229


http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=932663&postcount=74

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showpost.php?p=961877&postcount=99





Seems Xasten is on to something here

[RevengeofGio]

This is very possible in my view, but I do not presume to speak for the leadership.



Batphones + laptops will tethered smartphones will enable surprisingly easy response to a raid call at all times of the day. Also, a lot of Euro's and Aussies play p99.

I'm just going to ignore Harrison...

Don't people work lol? I mean I can chat here during a meeting. Anyone caught gaming would probably be fired in short order (even at the executive level).

[Bubbles]

Is TMO open to talking to another guild to leave certain mobs up?

The TMO secretary will pencil you in for the day Velious opens, if that's good for you. :)

[TarukShmaruk]

Funny - there was a TMO Cleric in LOIO last night handing out free rezzes to anyone who would drag their corpse to them.

Then he ran with me all the way to Dalnir and rezzed two of my corpses.

But yeah I guess they're all shitbags.

(Thanks again Abe)

[Messianic]

I'm just going to ignore Harrison...

Don't people work lol? I mean I can chat here during a meeting. Anyone caught gaming would probably be fired in short order (even at the executive level).

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_23479060/most-workers-hate-their-jobs-or-have-checked?source=rss

I work at a public university (in other words, 30% of student tuition comes from state $$). I see some pretty useless people here fulfilling petty functionary roles that we cannot yet automate or program. I wouldn't be surprised if plenty of them are sneaking in stuff like gaming on the side. One of them brings in his Mac notebook and Ipad and has them out while he "works".

Heck, many of the things *I do* are monotonous things that can't *yet* be automated...

[bizzum]

I'm just going to ignore Harrison...

Don't people work lol? I mean I can chat here during a meeting. Anyone caught gaming would probably be fired in short order (even at the executive level).

This one manager of mine (granted I'm at a game company) plays LoL literally 4 hours a day and it irritates me so hard. Fire him plz.

[Alarti0001]

This one manager of mine (granted I'm at a game company) plays LoL literally 4 hours a day and it irritates me so hard. Fire him plz.

You are just jelly.

[Harrison'sNewName]

You have no ability to do so. You just put a TL;DR every time someone rightfully outs your guild for the scum pit it is. Your attempt to spin a PR campaign when it's documented how awful you and your faggot friends are, is quite fucking pathetic.

No one is buying it.

The only more pathetic part is Sirken trying to claim he's the be all; end all of "legit" and yet his excuse for not banning the lot of you? "lol that happened X amount of time ago"

Sad. This project has so much to give and it's pissed on by unemployed manbabies.

Third Party Tools, Exploiting
We do not tolerate cheating on Project 1999. Any program that provides an unintended advantage or gleams access to information not otherwise available is very strictly prohibited. Please be aware that while other EQEmulator servers may allow the use of such programs, we do not. We have many systems in place to detect the presence and usage of these programs passively, with regular sweeps to purge users that have utilized them. This is typically a permanent ban.

Do not make the mistake that you may get away with it because you used it on Live Everquest. We put much more effort into the detection of these utilities than SOE ever did. You will be caught and banned if you use them.

The same holds true for exploiting. If you have the slightest doubt that what you are doing may not be intended, please cease immediately and seek clarification from the server staff. Failure to do so and discovery of your actions will lead to disciplinary action.

Apparently, Sirken did not read the rules himself.

Reposted because amateurs can't do their jobs, but can troll forums to protect TMO from being punished for breaking the posted rules.

[Harrison'sNewName]

massive zerg roster + call lists + mandatory spawn camping.

it's not rocket science, but it is the worst guild structure eq ever suffered from. And, it owns p99.

Not complaining, just describing.

You're completely forgetting Paypalling GMs.

Ask Sirken about his good friend Amelinda and how much she was gobbling down in bribes.