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Andis
06-13-2013, 03:09 PM
Andis said to put in Yellow Text and to Remove Exp Loss on PVP Death, and watch the server pop grow.

Well folks, as you see the server population has been growing by the day. (around 150 on weekend is pretty good)

NOW...

Andis is asking to please nerf the Tstaff proc. Everyone sees it. Even monks that have Tstaffs are saying you need to fix it. (pst gongshow)

Whether you change the duration or the proc rate, something has to be done.


At this moment, all lvl 60 pvp is, who has the most Tstaff monks and who can proc first. This as you may guess is cutting the fun out of the pvp scene.

Currently they proc way too often, and when they do proc they last for a very long time.

Listen to me, like you did with the YT and exp loss on PVP.



Let's make high end PVP fun again.



/signed Andis

r00t
06-13-2013, 03:13 PM
?

Nirgon
06-13-2013, 03:13 PM
I'm with you on this much:
random stun duration
random spin duration (you are still rooted for the spin but not stunned, spin as long as or longer than the stun randomed effect)
100dmg obviously
Unresistable obviously


Proc one on eqmac pals, see if I'm right.

diplo
06-13-2013, 03:16 PM
SKEAN the same?

r00t
06-13-2013, 03:16 PM
spin til u win

Slytherin
06-13-2013, 03:17 PM
T-Staff, High Sun, Skean and server is a better place. All easy fixes that most everyone can agree upon.

Andis
06-13-2013, 03:20 PM
SKEAN the same?

No, skean is not the same. Not in the slightest.

Skean does not proc even close to that of Tstaff.

This post is targeting the unfair Tstaff proc.

heartbrand
06-13-2013, 03:20 PM
just need Rogean to ok these changes hehuehuehueh

mendan
06-13-2013, 03:21 PM
I thought you uninstalled?

Andis
06-13-2013, 03:25 PM
lol why would I uninstall ? You never got any yellow on me dog. That kill you posted was like 5 months ago, and as you can see I had full quad of raptors on me as well. Not to mention the gate pot glitch.

Lets recap, my killshots to yours? oh thats right

lets focus on this post now kid

if you want to 1v1, PLEASE let me know.

diplo
06-13-2013, 03:28 PM
No, skean is not the same. Not in the slightest.

Skean does not proc even close to that of Tstaff.

This post is targeting the unfair Tstaff proc.

Was referring to the proc length - is it similar to tstaffs? Cause isn't that like 20 seconds lol.

BrobbVZ
06-13-2013, 03:29 PM
Tstaffs need to either be nerfed or more need to drop (more than once every 2months). Like make it kinda of a common drop so the playing field will be fair. We only see it as a huge problem right now because every monk in Nilly owns one and not so many on ze other side.

r00t
06-13-2013, 03:29 PM
lelelelelel

Andis
06-13-2013, 03:31 PM
Tstaffs need to either be nerfed or more need to drop (more than once every 2months). Like make it kinda of a common drop so the playing field will be fair. We only see it as a huge problem right now because every monk in Nilly owns one and not so many on ze other side.

no, regardless of who has one. facts are facts

pvp is now about who procs tstaffs first. its not fun period. and needs to be changed.

a staff should not be procing once every 30 seconds. and in most cases that I have seen lately, upon first contact.

mendan
06-13-2013, 03:33 PM
Lol..
Full quad!? No
Mobs hitting me also?! Yes
Malfunction?! Maybe, but who cares you died to me.
Another empty promise from you no life faggots that wanna talk shit?! Absolutely
Then you wonder why no one takes you or your guild seriously. You're a joke.

Andis
06-13-2013, 03:34 PM
lol if im a joke, 1v1 me bitch

evilldacbane
06-13-2013, 03:34 PM
please ban mendan for using the word faggot in general server chat.

mendan
06-13-2013, 03:34 PM
Oh yea and you've alrdy shown me multiple times that you log out 1v1 to my alt Druid and bring your rogue... God you're embarrassing...

heartbrand
06-13-2013, 03:35 PM
I'll 1v1 you Andis where at?

Nirgon
06-13-2013, 03:35 PM
just need Rogean to ok these changes hehuehuehueh

This post be good

Andis
06-13-2013, 03:36 PM
I'll 1v1 you Andis where at?

Andis slayed Ezpk 1v1

you think I cant kill you? no soulfires.

Nirgon
06-13-2013, 03:36 PM
lol if im a joke, 1v1 me bitch

Now we are getting somewhere in this little feud

mendan
06-13-2013, 03:36 PM
please ban mendan for using the word faggot in general server chat.

Cry more...

Andis
06-13-2013, 03:36 PM
Oh yea and you've alrdy shown me multiple times that you log out 1v1 to my alt Druid and bring your rogue... God you're embarrassing...

ya I log from you rofl

let me know when you wanna battle

heartbrand
06-13-2013, 03:37 PM
Andis slayed Ezpk 1v1

you think I cant kill you? no soulfires.

I'm like 13-0 vs Ezpk see the many screenshots I've posted. I'll destroy Andis 1v1 where @?

mendan
06-13-2013, 03:38 PM
Any time... Any place

Andis
06-13-2013, 03:38 PM
I'm like 13-0 vs Ezpk see the many screenshots I've posted. I'll destroy Andis 1v1 where @?

we can play, self buffs

all im saying is ezpk was confident too......

Andis
06-13-2013, 03:39 PM
OK FOCUS BACK TO THE TOPIC AT HAND


PLEASE NERF TSTAFF


THANK YOU

heartbrand
06-13-2013, 03:41 PM
Logging in what zone

Combobreaker
06-13-2013, 03:45 PM
You're both stupid fucks with enormous mouths that may need to be filled.

Andis - you landing 8 freecast spells on me @ 4am duel with no interrupts doesnt mean shit and that is the ONLY time we have dueled - self buffed

CR - you already know what it is and what I can do to anyone on this shit server

Andis
06-13-2013, 03:46 PM
yes and it was glorious haha - lets meet up us 3 and do again

@ checkraise - im at work

Combobreaker
06-13-2013, 03:46 PM
PS - Don't try and down talk someone you keep on the pedestal


bitches

Andis
06-13-2013, 03:48 PM
you my boy blue -- ezpks FF tag imminent

Nirgon
06-13-2013, 03:49 PM
More excited about Andis/Mendan 1v1 than t-staff or anything else.

Let's do this shit.

HB/Ezpk can be featured on the card as well.

Maybe have a Colgate vs Nizzar grudge match too.

Now that's a fight card I'd log in for.

Andis
06-13-2013, 03:51 PM
lets do it

mendan, you wanna do Guido vs Taiden, since you think I got scared of you right.

HippoNipple
06-13-2013, 03:53 PM
lets do it

mendan, you wanna do Guido vs Taiden, since you think I got scared of you right.

Does Guido have anything to do with why you want Tstaff nerfed but not Skean?

Nirgon
06-13-2013, 03:56 PM
Naw naw.

Andis vs Taiden.

Poison based stun should be flat out resisted at like 60 poison every time. Similar to other stun lines.

Andis
06-13-2013, 04:01 PM
we can do both

so I can show him that Guido aint never scared.

especially to him as a dru around close quarters, where you claimed I logged from you lol

and dru v dru can be boring as shit, but im still down, you know why?


cuz i am the king of pvp

runlvlzero
06-13-2013, 04:04 PM
I vote yes for Tstaff changes, whatever the vets/pro's want regardless of classicness. Nirgon for prez.

Nirgon
06-13-2013, 04:20 PM
If you're scared, go to church.

Would gladly accept pvp implementation crown and serve the people with fairness and integrity.

Andis
06-13-2013, 04:21 PM
if not tonight, I am def down for some pvp fights this weekend

lets set it up - pretty sure theres an event tonight as well

we dont need GMs to facilitate, we are mostly all adults, lets set up fights

without being kids and ganking during them

Stasis
06-13-2013, 04:23 PM
Do not change Tranquil Staff proc. Do not impede upon my lover. I love you Nizzar and I miss you.

Nizzarr
06-13-2013, 04:24 PM
Fix resists too, wildfires should do 300 or less damage with 100 fr. Same for wizards nukes

heartbrand
06-13-2013, 04:25 PM
Do not change Tranquil Staff proc. Do not impede upon my lover. I love you Nizzar and I miss you.

thanks slathar

Stasis
06-13-2013, 04:25 PM
thanks Stasis

mtb tripper
06-13-2013, 04:27 PM
Fix resists too, wildfires should do 300 or less damage with 100 fr. Same for wizards nukes

nizzarr i must know where you got that gif

Nizzarr
06-13-2013, 04:27 PM
Level based resist system,
Classic resists,
t-staff 4-10 sec stuns,

Do it all, or do nothing.

Stasis
06-13-2013, 04:30 PM
The Tranquil Staff proc known as "One Hundred Blows" is currently used by the most powerful monk, my idol, and my better half.

Please advise that the current state of this weapon is inadequate. Please note that the duration should be 60-90 seconds.

Thank you for your consideration. Remain calm.

this user was banned
06-13-2013, 04:30 PM
confirmed classic

Andis
06-13-2013, 04:33 PM
this server isnt classic

lets face the facts

time to cater to the players or watch this shit crumble like a piece of feta

BrobbVZ
06-13-2013, 04:33 PM
I just want more Tstaffs to drop, I got like 4monks that need em.. lezz go

Nirgon
06-13-2013, 04:37 PM
RZ didn't crumble between classic and day of Luclin.

Looked forward to that shit every day.

Still do.

Num1RecommendedByDentists
06-13-2013, 04:47 PM
i'll 1v1 nizzar for character deletion on colgate

no tstaff, no shuriken of the tranquil, no clickies, self buffs

ofc he wouldn't accept nor would he follow through when he loses considering all the times i've shat on him 1v1 before

Nirgon
06-13-2013, 04:49 PM
This would be the best GM event ever held on P99.

I will bet my sig on this as well or raise the stakes however Nizz decides and be a man about it.

Swyft
06-13-2013, 05:04 PM
I vote yes for Tstaff changes, whatever the vets/pro's want regardless of classicness. Nirgon for prez.

T-Staff should be lessoned to 6 sec's and cannot proc again for 6.5 sec's, just like it did on LIVE!

Skean is less troublesome because anyone with poison over 120 will most likely resist it and after pom will be less of a problem in pvp. but it should have max one tick(6secs) with duration lessoned based on poison resist.

Highsun should roll off mr and require bards to lower mr with denon's/fufils(or Occ in vellious) to land Highsun just like it did in live.

Of course than you'd need to change the bard back to there state at live since highsun is really the only thing going for the class atm with selo's charm and dot/dd's nerfed.

Sickpuppy
06-13-2013, 05:07 PM
No, skean is not the same. Not in the slightest.

Skean does not proc even close to that of Tstaff.

This post is targeting the unfair Tstaff proc.

your on drugs skean is a 18 second stun .. tstaff is a 12 second stun .. you just don't see as meny skean procs because it is in your off hand. if it could be your main hand it would proc just as much as a tstaff . so yes skean needs to be fixed .aswell as lots of other shit . lets start with resists

Sickpuppy
06-13-2013, 05:09 PM
18 second skean proc isn't a problem ? esp in a rogues hands ? GG

Andis
06-13-2013, 05:09 PM
skean is not 18 seconds

confirmed

and fact is fact it does not proc at all near to that of a tstaff

you cant put it main hand, so bad example

heartbrand
06-13-2013, 05:11 PM
18 second skean proc isn't a problem ? esp in a rogues hands ? GG

Andis
06-13-2013, 05:13 PM
and to make your arguement even worse

tstaff is UNRESISTABLE

skean gets resists more than 80% of the time

gg

heartbrand
06-13-2013, 05:18 PM
80% of the time? wut? god I wish that was the case with my 100+ PR.

Num1RecommendedByDentists
06-13-2013, 05:28 PM
skean and tstaff are both 18 seconds every single time

i've never resisted skean, but then again as a monk i'm pretty much fucked when it comes to PR

both of them are retarded

neither of them will get fixed

also who changed my sig w t f

Andis
06-13-2013, 05:28 PM
not sure if srs

skean gets resisted so much on nihilum chars

Stinkum
06-13-2013, 05:35 PM
first 8 pages of the thread

"1v1 me bitch"
"time and place fagggottt"
"im da besst mayyyn"

and you wonder why red99 has 25 players

Swyft
06-13-2013, 05:46 PM
80% of the time? wut? god I wish that was the case with my 100+ PR.

I said 120 not 100+ from 120 to 140 it does get resisted a lot and when vellious drops flowers will make this more common place. This is one of the things working like it did on live as far as land-ability goes. but if your not a necro your pretty much fucked for resisting one of these.

But the biggest problem is it lasts 3 ticks not 1.

I won't advocate changing the spell worse or better than it was in 1999 but only keeping things classic.

mendan
06-13-2013, 05:48 PM
so I can show him that Guido aint never scared.

especially to him as a dru around close quarters, where you claimed I logged from you lol

and dru v dru can be boring as shit

You have the reading comprehension of a 3rd grader.

Nirgon
06-13-2013, 05:57 PM
also who changed my sig w t f

lol'd again.

Stinkum
06-13-2013, 05:58 PM
arguing over everquest

Nirgon
06-13-2013, 06:09 PM
We done changed the image size, can't be going and changing perfectly good PG-13 content.

Num1RecommendedByDentists
06-13-2013, 06:10 PM
my 7900x238 signature wasn't acceptable according to zade

Nizzarr
06-13-2013, 06:24 PM
testing my new sig in this useless thread, very relevant to the above posters

Yagebasto
06-13-2013, 06:29 PM
lol if im a joke, 1v1 me bitch

sounds like something NW would say to you...

r00t
06-13-2013, 06:30 PM
i am above such blue forms of combat

Num1RecommendedByDentists
06-13-2013, 06:37 PM
nizzar afraid of 1v1 for character deletion ahuehauehauehaueheuehue

Andis
06-13-2013, 06:57 PM
sounds like something NW would say to you...

ya when NW had all the gear in the world - his FR through the roof

I would have done the same lol

Nirgon
06-13-2013, 07:03 PM
I am very relieved to see that the grandmaster's signature is restored.

Num1RecommendedByDentists
06-13-2013, 07:05 PM
they didn't like images 7900 pixels wide

Zade
06-13-2013, 07:16 PM
i liked my pic better :(

Yagebasto
06-13-2013, 07:21 PM
ya when NW had all the gear in the world - his FR through the roof

I would have done the same lol

i heard blizzard and frost were cold based spells

Faerie
06-13-2013, 08:03 PM
No PC casted stun should ever last longer than 3 seconds on another player imo.

Reddi who?
06-13-2013, 09:26 PM
lol mendan with the random rage in this thread

Feniggles
06-13-2013, 10:39 PM
Level based resist system,
Classic resists,
t-staff 4-10 sec stuns,

Do it all, or do nothing.


spell stuns which rarely land are limited to 4 seconds on other players same should be done for tstaff/skean

Nirgon
06-13-2013, 10:43 PM
add 4 levels up 4 levels down static to that mmmmmmmhm mhm mhm

Gustoo
06-14-2013, 12:12 PM
Agreed. The PvP level range is an easy change. Obviously important zones remain uncapped PvP range.

Nirgon
06-14-2013, 12:14 PM
The PvP level range is an easy change.

Other changes are great btw, keep it rollin'.

Nothxu
06-14-2013, 12:29 PM
The T-staff should be more powerful thank the skean as everyone and their mother has a skean because the quest is easy as fuck. The T-staff is rare as fuck in a zone that has constant pvp.

If you want to fix both weapons, fix earth pet, fix bard high sun, fix the resist system, fix the range of AE spells - only at that point, would a nerf to those weapons make sense.

Without all of the above issues, however, we would never see yellow text. Plugging would happen even more often and it would be extremely difficult to kill anyone. If someone dies in pvp, it is normally because of one the above.

Nirgon
06-14-2013, 12:40 PM
Nilbog is actually interested in seeing this stuff get done, so I have faith.

Velious is the big fish to fry right now, as is tieing up the loose ends like undead training and sky mobs.

Next patch is chock full of shit I have been dying to see.

Maybe we can see the static 4 level range change made. That shit would be classic. I'm sure there's just a method/function somewhere in there that does a range calc. You can junior engineer a one liner in there to just return true for the attackable flag or whatever if range is +/- 4 static regardless of player level (take that logic out too).

Sektor
06-14-2013, 12:41 PM
The T-staff should be more powerful thank the skean as everyone and their mother has a skean because the quest is easy as fuck. The T-staff is rare as fuck in a zone that has constant pvp.

If you want to fix both weapons, fix earth pet, fix bard high sun, fix the resist system, fix the range of AE spells - only at that point, would a nerf to those weapons make sense.

Without all of the above issues, however, we would never see yellow text. Plugging would happen even more often and it would be extremely difficult to kill anyone. If someone dies in pvp, it is normally because of one the above.

you sound kind of mad. Tstaff process right now dictates what side is likely to win. Not earth pets, not high sun, not skeans.

Stasis01
06-14-2013, 12:48 PM
Tough balance between staying classic and overpowered.

Tradesonred
06-14-2013, 12:58 PM
Good thing you came around Andis, and good thing i was a trooper, lone knight in the dark during the dark times of whatever, xp loss is irrelevant.

Im officially not raging at the devs anymore and could take their own sweet time adding little tweaks here and there while we wait for velious

Andis
06-14-2013, 01:11 PM
i heard blizzard and frost were cold based spells

didnt have frost at the time

thanks for you 2 cents baddy

Num1RecommendedByDentists
06-15-2013, 09:58 PM
The T-staff should be more powerful thank the skean as everyone and their mother has a skean because the quest is easy as fuck. The T-staff is rare as fuck in a zone that has constant pvp.

If you want to fix both weapons, fix earth pet, fix bard high sun, fix the resist system, fix the range of AE spells - only at that point, would a nerf to those weapons make sense.

Without all of the above issues, however, we would never see yellow text. Plugging would happen even more often and it would be extremely difficult to kill anyone. If someone dies in pvp, it is normally because of one the above.


holy fuck you're retarded

never post again, inferior monk

runlvlzero
06-15-2013, 10:01 PM
I died to a good ol fashioned non stunning SK weapon today. Dunno what your talkin about.

Yagebasto
06-15-2013, 10:08 PM
didnt have frost at the time

thanks for you 2 cents baddy

yes i'm the baddy... o wait. I'm not the one dieing to twainz's 53 wizard

PS check sig

Agatha
06-15-2013, 10:09 PM
The T-staff should be more powerful thank the skean as everyone and their mother has a skean because the quest is easy as fuck. The T-staff is rare as fuck in a zone that has constant pvp.

If you want to fix both weapons, fix earth pet, fix bard high sun, fix the resist system, fix the range of AE spells - only at that point, would a nerf to those weapons make sense.

Without all of the above issues, however, we would never see yellow text. Plugging would happen even more often and it would be extremely difficult to kill anyone. If someone dies in pvp, it is normally because of one the above.

can confirm since big agatha bound there a couple month's ago no pvp happens ever, no melee come thru, only people who show up are nihi wizards but not even they show up anymore cause noone is gonna catch big agatha slippin with a gloinzz level gank.

The last death I took at KC was nizzar gank squad. got lucky proc off on me, 3600dmg before i could get unstunned, GG.

Num1RecommendedByDentists
06-15-2013, 10:22 PM
yes i'm the baddy... o wait. I'm not the one dieing to twainz's 53 wizard

PS check sig

lul what a kill

35 second stun with no heals from the two druids in my group

aint even mad about that one

Yagebasto
06-15-2013, 10:55 PM
lul what a kill

35 second stun with no heals from the two druids in my group

aint even mad about that one

mad enough to post excuses....typical azrael scum

Num1RecommendedByDentists
06-15-2013, 11:09 PM
guild tag is dentists u dum fuk

Reddi who?
06-15-2013, 11:36 PM
35 second stun vlassic

Num1RecommendedByDentists
06-15-2013, 11:38 PM
2 tstaff procs in a row, the second one landing less than a second after the first

almost made it through entirely without heals bros

Knuckle
06-16-2013, 12:44 AM
T-Staff, High Sun, Skean and server is a better place. All easy fixes that most everyone can agree upon.

sure i can agree with these changes

Yagebasto
06-16-2013, 12:46 AM
guild tag is dentists u dum fuk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygr5AHufBN4

Tomato King6
06-16-2013, 01:13 PM
lul what a kill

35 second stun with no heals from the two druids in my group

aint even mad about that one

group with better druids, oh wait nm, red99 druids are a joke

STILLnotMORNIN
06-16-2013, 04:10 PM
Andis slayed Ezpk 1v1

you think I cant kill you? no soulfires.

ha.. its cute you think HB would 1v1 without full charge soulfire.