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DeadlyApostle
06-07-2013, 05:07 PM
Fri Jun 07 13:52:21 2013] LOADING, PLEASE WAIT...
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:36 2013] You have entered Solusek's Eye.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:37 2013] You begin casting Superior Healing.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:39 2013] Players on EverQuest:
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:39 2013] ---------------------------
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:39 2013] [ANONYMOUS] American <Fair Fighters>
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:39 2013] [ANONYMOUS] Willan <Nihilum>
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:39 2013] There are 2 players in Solusek's Eye.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:41 2013] Your spell is interrupted.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:41 2013] You are stunned!
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:41 2013] You begin to spin from one hundred blows.. You have taken 80 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:41 2013] American tries to crush YOU, but YOU riposte!
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:41 2013] American crushes YOU for 40 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:41 2013] American kicks YOU for 56 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:43 2013] American tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:43 2013] American tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:45 2013] American crushes YOU for 92 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:45 2013] American crushes YOU for 75 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:46 2013] American's muscles bulge with the force of will.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:46 2013] American crushes YOU for 245 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:48 2013] American crushes YOU for 133 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:48 2013] American crushes YOU for 133 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:49 2013] Wanyo crushes YOU for 56 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:49 2013] Wanyo crushes YOU for 69 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:49 2013] American tries to kick YOU, but misses!
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:49 2013] Wanyo kicks YOU for 78 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:50 2013] American crushes YOU for 133 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:51 2013] Wanyo crushes YOU for 81 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:51 2013] Wanyo crushes YOU for 76 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:52 2013] American tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:52 2013] Letsjoe tells the group, 'Sealer is woof!'
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:53 2013] Wanyo crushes YOU for 123 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:53 2013] American tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:53 2013] American crushes YOU for 133 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:54 2013] You can't cast spells while stunned!
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:54 2013] You can't cast spells while stunned!
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:54 2013] You feel dazed.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:54 2013] You can't cast spells while stunned!
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:55 2013] You can't cast spells while stunned!
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:55 2013] Wanyo crushes YOU for 68 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:55 2013] Wanyo tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:55 2013] You can't cast spells while stunned!
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:55 2013] You can't cast spells while stunned!
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:55 2013] American tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:55 2013] American crushes YOU for 133 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:55 2013] You can't cast spells while stunned!
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:56 2013] Wanyo kicks YOU for 33 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:56 2013] You can't cast spells while stunned!
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:56 2013] American kicks YOU for 126 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:56 2013] You can't cast spells while stunned!
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:56 2013] You can't cast spells while stunned!
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:56 2013] You can't cast spells while stunned!
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:56 2013] You can't cast spells while stunned!
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:56 2013] Wanyo crushes YOU for 161 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:56 2013] Wanyo crushes YOU for 103 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:57 2013] You can't cast spells while stunned!
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:57 2013] You can't cast spells while stunned!
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:57 2013] Chubs begins to cast a spell.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:57 2013] American crushes YOU for 133 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:58 2013] Wanyo is looking at your equipment...
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:58 2013] You must be standing to cast a spell.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:58 2013] Wanyo crushes YOU for 49 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:58 2013] Wanyo tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:59 2013] American crushes YOU for 26 points of damage.
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:59 2013] You have been slain by American!
[Fri Jun 07 13:52:59 2013] [PvP] Willan <Nihilum> has been defeated by American <Fair Fighters> in Solusek's Eye!
[Fri Jun 07 13:53:03 2013] Returning to Rivervale, please wait...
[Fri Jun 07 13:53:03 2013] LOADING, PLEASE WAIT...



Tstaff was a 1-4 second random duration stun on live. Not 20 seconds... something needs to be done about this and skeen stuns as well.

Num1RecommendedByDentists
06-07-2013, 05:22 PM
lol first hit proc

there's definitely something wrong with procs on this server, have been first hit proc'd by tstaff so many times and have proc'd it on people first hit so many times

DeadlyApostle
06-07-2013, 05:27 PM
I don't mind first hit procs since its all RNG but when it takes 2 monks and a druid 19 seconds to kill me when I have 0 chance to live... that's just wrong.

freez
06-07-2013, 06:04 PM
lol too bad you cant riposte the proc too

woulda been lulzy

Num1RecommendedByDentists
06-07-2013, 09:04 PM
no, there's something definitely wrong with first hit procs being WAY too common

freez
06-07-2013, 11:29 PM
make it zonewide aoe



double duration

Num1RecommendedByDentists
06-08-2013, 11:38 AM
the problem is people aren't slowed during these instances

quido
06-08-2013, 11:46 AM
That proc timer can be fooled, though. For instance, try meleeing a mob with Barb Spiritist's Hammer and sticking a JBB cast in between each swing without turning off attack... hammer will proc as if you weren't casting at all, despite the fact that like 90+% of that time you're not actually attacking, you're casting.

Asap
06-08-2013, 11:47 AM
tstaff proc lasts 20 seconds...wtf?

r00t
06-08-2013, 02:02 PM
That proc timer can be fooled, though. For instance, try meleeing a mob with Barb Spiritist's Hammer and sticking a JBB cast in between each swing without turning off attack... hammer will proc as if you weren't casting at all, despite the fact that like 90+% of that time you're not actually attacking, you're casting.

on live you could press Q and proc the Overthere port hammer on someone out of your pvp range even though you never attacked

quido
06-08-2013, 02:06 PM
I heard you could also do it on corpses, though I don't think either of these two most recent points have any bearing on the complaint that first swings proc too often.

r00t
06-08-2013, 02:06 PM
ya corpses too

SamwiseRed
06-08-2013, 04:31 PM
autoattack = q?

wtf newb

Num1RecommendedByDentists
06-08-2013, 05:06 PM
i remember auto attack being a

kaos057
06-12-2013, 02:08 PM
it was a in classic but it was changed at some point because a was such a common letter that people would attack guards by mistake way too often.

Nirgon
06-12-2013, 02:38 PM
Someone farm up or borrow a tstaff on eqmac and proc one of these things so we can put it to bed. Its too big an issue to just put to bed on heresay or otherwise. It was powerful but I don't remember it always being full duration stun.

Nirgon
06-12-2013, 02:39 PM
on live you could press Q and proc the Overthere port hammer on someone out of your pvp range even though you never attacked

This is true. Same with primals on corpses on pvp servers.

Not sure on PvE.

Handpartytowel
06-13-2013, 04:42 PM
Someone farm up or borrow a tstaff on eqmac and proc one of these things so we can put it to bed. Its too big an issue to just put to bed on heresay or otherwise. It was powerful but I don't remember it always being full duration stun.

please. the fact that tstaff / skean is GUARANTEED DEATH on any int caster and probably most other players changes how pvp plays out on the server. it is not ok to run in and fight against a melee just to fuck with them and then try to get out if things start looking grim because if they come within melee range once you have about a 50% chance of being 100-0'ed without any possible reaction.

this fact turns pvp on the server into a stupid zone hop fest that is boring. mass pvp is simply a matter of which side has more tstaffs / skeans. levels dont matter. gear doesnt matter. only number of death touch procs. i really dont believe this is how live worked. it seems like more drawn out fights with people using range, assist dpsing moving targets, dispelling, healing etc would be more fun than this servers custom random death touch lottery.

heartbrand
06-13-2013, 04:48 PM
i have one on live if anyone wants to /duel me to test

Nirgon
06-13-2013, 04:52 PM
They changed it on live after a certain date HB :/

Would hafta be on EQMac at this point.

Gustoo
06-13-2013, 05:14 PM
Someone go on EQ mac and find an EQ mac monk and have him beat u with stick and see what happens.

Nirgon
06-13-2013, 05:35 PM
It is extremely rare and Karnor's isn't terribly popular with Velks and PoP zones.

The one that I was able to find out about was going for millions of plat :P.