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Kagatob
06-05-2013, 01:05 AM
http://www.torontosun.com/2013/06/04/teen-denied-diploma-fined-over-native-american-feather
If it was a cross it wouldn't of been a problem though. :rolleyes:

joppykid
06-05-2013, 01:19 AM
How is the school allowed to enforce that fine? I feel like that could quickly get dismissed in court. Though it probably be cheaper to pay the fine but at this point it'd be out of principle. I know they warned her and everything but still...

HasbinHarrisonMindHump
06-05-2013, 01:44 AM
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What was that?

EchoedTruth
06-05-2013, 12:49 PM
http://www.torontosun.com/2013/06/04/teen-denied-diploma-fined-over-native-american-feather
If it was a cross it wouldn't of been a problem though. :rolleyes:

This is so fucking stupid. What happened to freedom of speech and expression? :(

Klendathu
06-05-2013, 01:30 PM
Kid wears the feather, after asking permission and being denied and then told the consequences for her actions. She wears it anyway. She suffers the consequences. I have no problem with that.

I do have a problem with $1K fine. That is excessive and heavy-handed. Punishment should fit the crime; Don't let the kid walk in the ceremony. But FFS the kid did the work and met the scholastic requirements to graduate, feather or not. You don't deny the kid the diploma over a fucking feather, and you don't exact ANY monetary fine, much less a gross amount like that. This is, perhaps, someone new to the school's administration trying to put their "stamp" on the situation, and flex some authoritative muscle. Hopefully a level headed judge presides over this and throws it out.

Nihilist_santa
06-05-2013, 02:09 PM
This is so fucking stupid. What happened to freedom of speech and expression? :(

What happened to just going to school and getting an education? Why is everything a 1st amendment issue with these people.

I don't agree with the fine but this student was warned and went ahead and broke the rules anyways.

Cant wait for this kid to get a job and see what the world is like. Plenty of time to wear feathers in the unemployment office.

FoxxHound
06-05-2013, 02:14 PM
Duh Fuq

Samoht
06-05-2013, 05:07 PM
Cant wait for this kid to get a job and see what the world is like. Plenty of time to wear feathers in the unemployment office.

puh-lease. college was no where near as hard as high school made it out to be, and real-life is no where near as hard as college made it out to be.

hell, this guy works at nasa:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2012/08/06/Interactivity/Images/Mars_Curiosity-0dff1.jpg?uuid=XjZr1t_FEeGPxafc8fwWHQ

i had a mohawk when i worked at dell. never once had my job threatened over it.

it's just a feather. the school is just attempting to homogenize the populous and suppress individuality.

Hasbinbad
06-05-2013, 05:21 PM
i called this school as part of the anon callout dox haha

never thought it would make it here!

Nihilist_santa
06-05-2013, 07:39 PM
puh-lease. college was no where near as hard as high school made it out to be, and real-life is no where near as hard as college made it out to be.

hell, this guy works at nasa:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2012/08/06/Interactivity/Images/Mars_Curiosity-0dff1.jpg?uuid=XjZr1t_FEeGPxafc8fwWHQ

i had a mohawk when i worked at dell. never once had my job threatened over it.

it's just a feather. the school is just attempting to homogenize the populous and suppress individuality.

If the guy with the mohawk's boss told him to cut that off or lose his job that thing would be gone tomorrow. Its not about her not getting a job because of a feather, it is about the fact that she asked first and decided to do it anyways regardless of the response.

Samoht
06-05-2013, 09:12 PM
And your response was that you can't wait for her to experience the real world, but the reality is the real world doesn't have the arbitrary rules like they have in high school.

Ahldagor
06-05-2013, 09:12 PM
This is so fucking stupid. What happened to freedom of speech and expression? :(

supreme court has consistently upheld rulings that the first amendment is not applicable in public schools.

Kagatob
06-05-2013, 09:27 PM
supreme court has consistently upheld rulings that the first amendment is not applicable in public schools.

If this was true we'd still have prayer in said public schools.

Samoht
06-05-2013, 09:28 PM
also, this wasn't in school.

Daldolma
06-05-2013, 09:33 PM
this rly gets my blood boiling

Yardcore
06-05-2013, 10:37 PM
What happened to just going to school and getting an education? Why is everything a 1st amendment issue with these people.

I don't agree with the fine but this student was warned and went ahead and broke the rules anyways.

Cant wait for this kid to get a job and see what the world is like. Plenty of time to wear feathers in the unemployment office.


It depends on what part of the real world you are talking about. Some places are stricter than other. People have choice, and it goes both ways, whether you are the employer or employee. Again, we are talking Alabama here...even in Houston, when I graduated, some kid even worn a jester clown hat to a fkin graduation '96 and no one said anything.

Rhambuk
06-06-2013, 12:40 AM
If someone tells you "If you do this, these are the consequences." and you decide to go ahead and do it anyway, then feel it's not fair and make a big fuss about it.

Sounds like all this attention is what she wanted in the first place...

Daldolma
06-06-2013, 12:46 AM
clearly ridiculous to penalize her for this

also do not care even a little bit

Rhambuk
06-06-2013, 12:48 AM
clearly ridiculous to penalize her for this



100%

but its a feather for christ sake, after being told not to and what would happen she HAD to wear it...like something in her brain was broken. Would anyone care so much about their appearance that would even risk all of the hardwork they did to earn it?


extremely stupid, on both sides

Gwence
06-06-2013, 04:51 AM
I would've paid them $1000 then got my money's worth by breaking $1000 worth of bones on all the administrators while wearing an extravagant feathered mask

then as a point of good drama would have taken a feather out of the mask and left it on them as they are screaming in pain on the ground knowing there knee's are never going to work correctly again.



BOOYA!!!!


nah I probably wouldnt do that, maybe just dream about it for a few days.

JonathanHancock
06-06-2013, 11:04 AM
puh-lease. college was no where near as hard as high school made it out to be, and real-life is no where near as hard as college made it out to be.

hell, this guy works at nasa:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2012/08/06/Interactivity/Images/Mars_Curiosity-0dff1.jpg?uuid=XjZr1t_FEeGPxafc8fwWHQ

i had a mohawk when i worked at dell. never once had my job threatened over it.

it's just a feather. the school is just attempting to homogenize the populous and suppress individuality.

Ironically, the lower you are on the totem pole, the MORE restrictions you're met with. People working at any kinda chain restaurant, retail store etc would NEVER be able to go to work looking like that.

Samoht
06-06-2013, 11:17 AM
it's the peasant effect. the peasants try to emulate the life style and attitude they see the aristocrats lead, but in reality, the aristocrats do whatever pleases them and don't actually care about outward appearance.

it's like cursing in the modern day. fucking rich fucking people don't give a fuck how many fucking times they fucking say fuck. but someone pretending to have higher social class might refrain from exercising such vulgarity.

it's like how elementary schools are run like prisons, which make way to secondary schools that are more relaxed, but still controlled like nazis (as in this case), to tertiary schools (college/trade) which are run on a do what you please model because you paid and it's your education, to adult life where you can pretty much do whatever you want as long as you don't impose on someone else's rights to do what they want

Rhambuk
06-06-2013, 11:21 AM
Ironically, the lower you are on the totem pole, the MORE restrictions you're met with. People working at any kinda chain restaurant, retail store etc would NEVER be able to go to work looking like that.

So true, while working at retail after highschool (kmart,walmart) they piss test and refuse to hire anyone who tests positive, whether legal by the state or not. After that I joined an organization caring for adults with mental disabilities. a job in which you regularly handle schedule 2 drugs, transport the consumer to and from appointments, etc. Lets hold the guys stocking shelves and greeting people at walmart to a higher standard than those we entrust to take care of a human life.

It doesnt exactly relate to your post but the less important a position is the more rules management can put in place because those positions are merely warm body positions and can be filled with anyone. If you need a guy to do nasa stuff maybe the one with mohawk really is the only guy for the job and you have to accept that part of him or risk a worse trusting a worse employee to aim that rocket at mars.