Exp boost needs to come back now.

[Galacticus]

It was gone in the blink of an eye and that's how fast it needs to come back.

Population on peak hours is now less then half of what it was with the bonus implemented.

You were wrong if you didn't think it would hurt population, now we have the proof.

No exp on death benafits you the most the higher level you are, it does nothing for new players who already have no one to group with let alone pvp against.

Don't let the population dwindle even more month after month.

Don't let this server die, only hardcore no lifers are left keeping it active because they have no where to go.

Take action now.

[Vile]

Just needs a boost for lvls under 45 imo... let the newbs get to planar levels while still OOR of top dogs and gear up to compete imo...

[HeisChuck]

60 pop atm lulz

[heartbrand]

60 pop atm lulz

trak tonight, will hit 85

[Bazia]

actually 47 who all count at 7 pm

[reddi lol]

trak tonight, will hit 85

Lol

[Tradesonred]

No xp loss in pvp will do something for low levels, it makes them be able to have fun pvping for hours without all that mind numbing, boring fucking grind to backlog.

But hey theres no pop to pvp with, so yeah a little xp boost when its obvious its killing the server coupled with xp loss, wouldnt hurt.

Just bought mass effect 1 and 2 on steam cuz i expect these changes very soon. (Sorry Roge, glad to see you back btw but you know)

[Heywood]

trak tonight, will hit 85


actually 47 who all count at 7 pm


Oh, damn.

[Faerie Blossom]

I don't think a simple xp bonus will really help much, as that seems to hurt group-dependent classes more than help them imo...

Why not remove xp bonus, and introduce a group xp bonus that makes solo exp inefficient in comparison?

[Bazia]

Yes, make soloing not viable on a 45 person server.

That will help quite a bit.

[Faerie Blossom]

Yes, make soloing not viable on a 45 person server.

That will help quite a bit.

Thank you, it's always good to see people support my great ideas :)

...seriously though, just because grouping is encouraged by being made better than soloing does not mean that soloing suddenly becomes impossible.

[Tradesonred]

I don't think a simple xp bonus will really help much, as that seems to hurt group-dependent classes more than help them imo...

Why not remove xp bonus, and introduce a group xp bonus that makes solo exp inefficient in comparison?

You have the worst fucking ideas for making the server "thrive"

Yes, lets make the xp more horrible than the nerf that got the server peak from 204 to 70

On a server that averages 500 players, maybe.

You were one of the foremost defenders of xp loss in pvp back when server launched, then dissapeared for 1.5 years as server spiraled down the toilet and you come out of the woodwork when servers getting fixed, plz stay the fuck away from forums

[Bazia]

players need to be rushed to 52+ where they can interact with the other 97% of the population

[heartbrand]

Removing any kind of xp bonus is dumb as fuck. Put a group bonus in sure why not but for the love of god don't force people who already have to play solo quest when rolling here to have even worse xp because there's no one group to with.

[Vile]

Removing any kind of xp bonus is dumb as fuck. Put a group bonus in sure why not but for the love of god don't force people who already have to play solo quest when rolling here to have even worse xp because there's no one group to with.

Group bonus is lol there is no one to group with. Creating a group bonus won't have more people rolling here to find groups either.

[Rust1d?]

The problem is that everyone is too well established for someone like me (22 bard) to want to come back when I can go to LoZ with a similar population where I have lv 50's and 40's and can level easy...

[heartbrand]

If you like pve whatsoever loz is awful

[Faerie Blossom]

You have the worst fucking ideas for making the server "thrive"

Yes, lets make the xp more horrible than the nerf that got the server peak from 204 to 70

On a server that averages 500 players, maybe.

You were one of the foremost defenders of xp loss in pvp back when server launched, then dissapeared for 1.5 years as server spiraled down the toilet and you come out of the woodwork when servers getting fixed, plz stay the fuck away from forums

Stop being so mean, please. You can explain why you think my ideas are terrible without being terrible yourself.

That said, I just feel as though an xp bonus like we have now penalizes group classes (specifically melee types) and further encourages solo play, which we have way too much of. Getting necros, mages and druids like me to group more and solo less seems like it would be a good thing for population, but it certainly won't be if we have people crying about soloing (of all things) being too hard for them.

It sounds to me like you people just want everyone to solo up to 50s, and miss out on like most of the EQ experience.

[reddi lol]

bring pop back

Training

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9_p2xRwIKrw/UKyPyXm9xvI/AAAAAAAASl8/2KNeSksyyX0/s1600/legalize+2012.jpg

[SamwiseRed]

need /testbuff

[Faerie Blossom]

bring pop back

Training

How would making training legal increase population at all? I'm not saying it would kill the server, but why would anyone join or come back because of it?

[SamwiseRed]

some men just want to watch the world burn

[Faerie Blossom]

some men just want to watch the world burn

But if you burn the world for fun, what's there to do when you're left with big piles of ash? :(

Btw, are you playing again yet Sam? Server could use the +1 to pop :P

[princepolk]

rogean is chuckling at the time yall spend debating small changes to a server that he does not give a FUCK about

[SamwiseRed]

But if you burn the world for fun, what's there to do when you're left with big piles of ash? :(

Btw, are you playing again yet Sam? Server could use the +1 to pop :P

ya messing with my stream settings atm. was gonna stream eve but kinda need to ask corp first because alot of intel can be gathered from it which could be really bad.

[reddi lol]

rogean is chuckling at the time yall spend debating small changes to a server that he does not give a FUCK about

talking with rogean nilbog and zade was like...


thanks giving dinner.

I felt....






at peace.

For just a moment.


I felt like....









things could get better.





things WOULD get better.





I hope I see dad again....

[SamwiseRed]

he said he would be right back

[Bazia]

plz reduce exp want pop back at 6 ppl so i can run around slaying nihilum porting to raids

shits classic (literally)

[Tradesonred]

Stop being so mean, please. You can explain why you think my ideas are terrible without being terrible yourself.

That said, I just feel as though an xp bonus like we have now penalizes group classes (specifically melee types) and further encourages solo play, which we have way too much of. Getting necros, mages and druids like me to group more and solo less seems like it would be a good thing for population, but it certainly won't be if we have people crying about soloing (of all things) being too hard for them.

It sounds to me like you people just want everyone to solo up to 50s, and miss out on like most of the EQ experience.

already stated numerous times i think group xp should go up, but nerfing solo xp even more i dont even...

And im being terrible because you were one of the few people consistantly posting on the forums against removing xp loss in pvp, which to me is one of the prime reason why server isnt fun to play past the nostalgia factor, if your goal is to pvp like on the old servers.

Around 90% of server came around and now thinks xp loss should go, or is it because the large griefer pop left when there was no people left to grief?

[Faerie Blossom]

already stated numerous times i think group xp should go up, but nerfing solo xp even more i dont even...

If that's what it takes to make life better for the rogues and warriors out there, so be it! I soloed to 50 in like 3 weeks even with exp nerfed the once. I see absolutely no reason why soloing should be faster here than on blue.

And im being terrible

So quit it! :p

because you were one of the few people consistantly posting on the forums against removing xp loss in pvp, which to me is one of the prime reason why server isnt fun to play past the nostalgia factor, if your goal is to pvp like on the old servers.

I was under the impression that xp loss would deter people from bindrushing. Unfortunately, I was mistaken, as I found on my druid. With it not serving its intended purpose (because people are crazy imo), there is no reason to keep it. All detriment with no benefit is silly.

Around 90% of server came around and now thinks xp loss should go, or is it because the large griefer pop left when there was no people left to grief?

I don't understand the question :confused:

[Mocri]

um.

before January the red server was hitting 7%-10% of the blue server population.

with the addition of extra staff presence, some monthly pvp and pve events, and a little bit of love, the red server population peaked at 20% of blue population.

when the xp bonus was scaled back last month or so, the population dipped back into the 10%-13% of blue population range.

since that time the pop has been slowing going up again, and as i write this the pop is back at 20% of Blue server.

next time, don't just make things up. you never know who has been actually paying attention, and can call you out on your BS

actually 47 who all count at 7 pm

[Galacticus]

If that's what it takes to make life better for the rogues and warriors out there, so be it! I soloed to 50 in like 3 weeks even with exp nerfed the once. I see absolutely no reason why soloing should be faster here than on blue.
I was under the impression that xp loss would deter people from bindrushing.



Its not just for the warriors or rogues. It helps any class. Any new person. Not everyone rolled a druid or wants to roll a druid - the easiest class(bards r best) to solo to 1-50 with.

You see absolutely nothing possibly because your so focused on your own perspective. Did you read the post? Do you see our population compared to blue? Really? How about read the other 500 posts about people asking for exp bonus?

Exp loss isn't relevant to an exp bonus. The bonus should be there regardless of exp loss. Its to help the server get more people. Period.

Exp bonus is for everyone who is new to catch up to a server population that is 80% 50+

Exp bonus is an INCENTIVE to entice new players and returning players to grow population.

People don't come to the pvp server to exp grind or "experience the classic feels".

There is another server for that, are you playing on the right one?

[Galacticus]

That post sirken made is misleading. The population of blue fluctuated significantly from 400 people at peak to 900 at peak.

But still - why is 10% or 20% of blue population a GOOD thing?

[princepolk]

i dont think the issue is that theres anybody that honestly believes it helps population on red99 to have slower xp (there isnt), i think the issue is that yall think the management gives a fuck

[kotton05]

Need xp bonus back. I solo on amonky no fungi. I thought training was legal already lol. Then high level asses in mist pore steal my pulls so I pull for em

[Faerie Blossom]

Its not just for the warriors or rogues. It helps any class. Any new person. Not everyone rolled a druid or wants to roll a druid - the easiest class(bards r best) to solo to 1-50 with.

You see absolutely nothing possibly because your so focused on your own perspective. Did you read the post? Do you see our population compared to blue? Really? How about read the other 500 posts about people asking for exp bonus?

Exp loss isn't relevant to an exp bonus. The bonus should be there regardless of exp loss. Its to help the server get more people. Period.

Exp bonus is for everyone who is new to catch up to a server population that is 80% 50+

Exp bonus is an INCENTIVE to entice new players and returning players to grow population.

I don't think you understand what I was saying. Exp bonus as it is now is bad for rogues and warriors, because they get passed up more quickly by their solo class friends than they would without the bonus.

People don't come to the pvp server to exp grind or "experience the classic feels".

There is another server for that, are you playing on the right one?

I'm not the one complaining about how things are run and demanding that the devs make changes to fit my preferred style of play. Maybe you're on the wrong server.

[Faerie Blossom]

Need xp bonus back. I solo on amonky no fungi. I thought training was legal already lol. Then high level asses in mist pore steal my pulls so I pull for em

Why would you think that training was legal? This is EQ lol.

[Aprisle]

You should make post count give you in-game experience.

Nothing wrong with forum pop

#thriving

[Xantille]

i dont think the issue is that theres anybody that honestly believes it helps population on red99 to have slower xp (there isnt), i think the issue is that yall think the management gives a fuck

Goog post

[Galacticus]

I don't think you understand what I was saying. Exp bonus as it is now is bad for rogues and warriors, because they get passed up more quickly by their solo class friends than they would without the bonus.



I'm not the one complaining about how things are run and demanding that the devs make changes to fit my preferred style of play. Maybe you're on the wrong server.

I don't think you understand what you are saying.

Current exp rates are bad for warriors and rogues because if they had no exp bonus then solo classes would want to group with them for some reason?

The thing that exp bonus doesn't do is make people group together, but there is a exp bonus already for that for an incentive.

The exp bonus brings in more people because it allows them to cut back on the thing everyone likes to do the least which is grind exp(go blue), especially on a pvp server.

I am not complaining or demanding. I am making a suggestion I have already made before because I think its relevant to the current state of the server.

[kotton05]

Why would you think that training was legal? This is EQ lol.

Well since you can kill each other I figured it's kinda lawless on red... Plus if you take my pulls and we cant pvp that might warrant a train lol.

Wish red had like 250+ primetime

[SamwiseRed]

remove hybrid penalty from groups.

pet classes get their pet penalty removed in groups

players > pets

lets do it.

[princepolk]

Goog post

did u notice how the spergs ignored my honourable truth telling and immediately went back to arguing over a nonissue?

[Grampy]

Why not remove xp bonus, and introduce a group xp bonus that makes solo exp inefficient in comparison?

You seem to have missed the part where we specifically said there are no low levels to begin with. I'm soloing 100% of the time at level 17 because there is almost nobody my level.

[Philipangoo]

My first group came at 27. Hang in there Grampy. Hang in there.

[juicedsixfo]

Is there any word on the status of this? The longer it goes like this the more detriment it's causing.

[Vile]

i got 4 buddies back on box.. they suffering but grinding... help out the newbs

[reddi lol]

Velious is pretty fun

[Nirgon]

How much of EQEmu has done all the Velious stuff for us so far =D

[Swyft]

Nah keep the exp as slow as it is, I know I came to a pvp server with pvp that resembles nothing like classic pvp(Unresistable highsun roots landing on 180 mr, and unlimited range nukes from across zone, draughts landing like lures with no partial lol).

To level slow as shit on a game from 1999, glad the pve is set to classic and the pvp is crazy town rules. No wonder why GM's don't give a crap about red.

[Crenshinabon]

Bonus Group XP would be amazing. Would be seriously fucking amazing to WANT to group instead of just tolerating it.
Make it so Hybrid xp isn't shared so I don't cringe when a troll or Ogre join group.

Encourage grouping instead of penalizing.
Would help server thrive.