View Full Version : Things you'd like to see implemented
heartbrand
05-15-2013, 07:00 PM
Now that YT and exp loss have been given the axe patch, what other stuff would people like to see that doesn't require a fresh server [aka no teams suggestions]?
For me this is my wish list:
1) Leaderboard. It will need a way to account for assists somehow to not be gimped but a Leaderboard of some sort would be cool and something to do when there's no dragons to slay pals.
2) EXP boost. While in theory I'm a fan of keeping exp slow for a variety of reasons, none of those reasons seems to carry any weight when the initial impression people get here is a barren wasteland with no groups and only fungi wearing rogue epic twinks griefing you.
3) Variance. I never thought I'd say this in a million years but the whole all mobs on a one day timer within three hours thing is getting old fast. The excitement of quickly assembling to kill a mob against another guild seems more fun to me at this point than killing Trakanon for the 500th time.
4) Item loot even if its implemented as a flaggable option that makes you wait maybe a week to unflag from it. This would remedy the claim of people who say its too late to implement it now. I think most people would flag tbh.
5) Fix CC. While I've seen some posts like player x resisted my root all the time what is the issue, the point is I shouldn't have to wear MR gear in every slot just for a chance at resisting root.
6) Maybe in lieu of variance a once a week at random time raid mob pop in a random zone that could drop a piece of LR or something else cool. Something to fight over that can't be predicted when it will pop etc.
Just some thoughts.
Colgate
05-15-2013, 07:01 PM
1) more threads like this that will go unanswered for years at a time
heartbrand
05-15-2013, 07:03 PM
I just wish the devs would accept that keepin shit reallll classic isn't going to work on red, if having people actually play this server is the goal. They need to start thinking outside the box in terms of how to make this shit exciting again. It seems as though at least nilbog has begun to do so.
GODPARTICLE
05-15-2013, 07:13 PM
/pizza
tehruoh
05-15-2013, 07:30 PM
Tired of trak for the 500th time? Same day repops in a3 hr time window? Loz awaits thee
Faerie Blossom
05-15-2013, 07:31 PM
Remove exp bonus, add in group exp bonus. Make us solo classes group if we want fast xp imo.
Teams, hopefully some that break up Nihilum (no offense to you guys, oldschool Nihilum worked hard for first place) to force some life into endgame.
Item loot could be cool, if players could loot no drop and droppable items.
End to account trading, end to RMT entirely.
Bigger population somehow; hopefully bringing in a variety of players so we could have anti-PK guilds, roleplayers and stuff.
Dedicated GM staff that is able to ban anyone who abuses ooc, trains, or w/e.
A lot of this is impossible, but an elf can dream... :)
tehruoh
05-15-2013, 07:37 PM
Item loot would make most people shy from pvp even if exp loss is removed. Would pretty much negate shit.
heartbrand
05-15-2013, 08:03 PM
That's why I suggested a flaggable item loot option. Maybe if you flag item loot you get an exp bonus or a Leaderboard that only counts for flagged players. /shrug
Colgate
05-15-2013, 08:07 PM
item loot would need to be all or nothing
variance would be nice because then one guild wouldn't keep every single raid mob within their time window for eternity, and there would be no point in poopsocking to push mobs into your own time window
leaderboard/yt flavor things that don't really improve the game all that much
resists most important thing that needs to change right now, favors zerging heavily like we've been saying it would since the dawn of time
exp bonus also pretty important but when exp loss in pvp is removed i don't think it'll be that big of a deal
Sickpuppy
05-15-2013, 08:07 PM
I will flag day 1. for item loot .but we all know this aint going to happen to meny bluebies / carebears
Nirgon
05-15-2013, 08:11 PM
Chuck vs Stasis
Twainz vs Lite
heartbrand
05-15-2013, 08:12 PM
I'd support a full implementation of item loot I only suggested a flag because many people would prolly object to putting it in this late. But the more I think about it the more I truly believe item loot would be amazing for this server and could be done without having to wipe. Give people a month warning or whatever that its going in to change their gear around, or even do it on a trial basis and see what happens. Shrug.
Colgate
05-15-2013, 08:14 PM
item loot would necessitate not god awful resists
imo call this a beta, wipe server, fix resists, add yt, add exp bonus, take exp loss in pvp out, add item loot, put sirken and nilbog in charge
heartbrand
05-15-2013, 08:18 PM
I'm out if they wipe and I know many others who would be as well. I'm trying to think of ways to increase pop not kill it.
Faerie Blossom
05-15-2013, 08:20 PM
item loot would need to be all or nothing
This. Can't have your cake and eat it, too. Should also be able to loot no drop items from players, because otherwise you have raid geared Nihilum fighting players (like me) in little to none no drop gear, and that's just wrong. I shouldn't have to risk all of my gear when they already have gear advantage and are risking much, much less of it.
PvP skill would certainly matter more.
heartbrand
05-15-2013, 08:22 PM
Many of the no drop items, which are really only VP gear and planar gear, are bad items for pvp.
Faerie Blossom
05-15-2013, 08:28 PM
Many of the no drop items, which are really only VP gear and planar gear, are bad items for pvp.
Planar gear is better than the stuff I've worked hard for here, and how 'bout Velious?
Get real, Heartbrand.
heartbrand
05-15-2013, 08:32 PM
1) I'm not saying they are irrelevant or worthless but anyone can get planar gear. In VP outside of weapons which are already not loot able regardless, you have yes crown of rile / ear / robe, but to cater an entire systems implementation around that seems extreme.
2) velious isn't here yet
3) Allowing no drop armor to be looted obviously allows all loot to be transferred so we would basically playing with a FV ruleset. Nothing wrong with that, I actually like it and would support it, just pointing it out.
mostbitter
05-15-2013, 08:34 PM
Would be nice to see nihilum get their guild disbanded, leadership perma banned in response to the blatant DDoS attack against Azrael today.
Faerie Blossom
05-15-2013, 08:37 PM
FV ruleset is a fantastic idea!
My vote is for item loot with FV ruleset.
heartbrand
05-15-2013, 08:49 PM
Ya the more I think about it removing no drop tag with item loot seems exciting and gives everyone something to play for. Man the drama that would ensue would be epic.
Faerie Blossom
05-15-2013, 08:51 PM
Sometimes your genius surprises me, HB :)
Colgate
05-15-2013, 08:51 PM
hb simply puts up this retarded persona because otherwise the server is just another boring low pop eq emu server with broken resists and a father who doesn't love it
heartbrand
05-15-2013, 08:55 PM
I think I'm pretty candid about the server and most things going on here. This is a server that I still believe has immense potential but has squandered it for a variety of well documented reasons time and time again. My hope is that nilbog now seems somewhat more interested in performing CPR on this server and perhaps open to implementing things that while perhaps not 100% classic, will encourage people to actually play here.
One of the biggest struggles this server has, amongst many, is there just isn't much reason to log on other than Arzak Tuesday and holy dragon Sunday. Item loot, especially if in fact you could loot someone's crown of rile, with YT and Leaderboard O MY.
Giovanni
05-15-2013, 09:01 PM
1) I wouldn't mind seeing mob spawns moved to totally random timers. An announcement would be made serverwide when a named spawns similar to "A green mist seeps forth from Sebilis" etc.
Each of these events would result in mobilizing the entire server to fight for the raid mob, and entertainment would be provided throughout the week. As it exists, all the raid mobs get killed by one guild at 3pm on a Tuesday while the rest of the server is at work.
2) End cross server and account trading
3) Either remove boxing or allow all players to box.
4) Grouping in a 6 man group should provide better exp than bard kiting. Right now bard kites > soloing > grouping.
5) Spells files are incredibly broken. Why does pillar of frost still not have a range check at the end of the cast? Why am I constantly chain snared/stunned while fighting bards (who needs bard rapture or AA stun when they already have it on this server)?
6) Need hardcoded teams. A new player making a level 1 untwinked melee is unable to pvp, because they need to group with the other 2 people within their level range. With teams, new players would have a support group to help them stick around on the server.
heartbrand
05-15-2013, 09:03 PM
I love your idea for variance btw of the server wide emote as opposed to having to sit at a spawn.
Bazia
05-15-2013, 09:13 PM
still waiting on that earth pet fix
shits a wrap dogs
wipe it clean
Giovanni
05-15-2013, 09:16 PM
Leaderboard. It will need a way to account for assists somehow to not be gimped but a Leaderboard of some sort would be cool and something to do when there's no dragons to slay pals.
The sullon zek leaderboard and zone control maps adding a whole new dimension to forumquesting. Even if you can't login and play that day, the news updates provided by the leaderboard and zone control map provide a lot of entertainment and fresh topics for discussion.
It's not even a custom change if we had it on live.
Nirgon
05-15-2013, 09:18 PM
You know there was an entire team of paid designers that came up with RZ's ruleset, tons of fans until death and entire server that thrived under its specific and very fun/intentionally designed rule set.
Go with that.
heartbrand
05-15-2013, 09:21 PM
Been immersed in league lately I keep the dragon on lockdown
Salem Orchid
05-15-2013, 09:24 PM
didn't read anything nothing will happen
Dedicated GM staff that is able to ban anyone who abuses ooc, trains, or w/e.
oh hey, thanks, glad i'm appreciated.
QQ
I approve of this thread, on a serious note :) Can never hurt to put out what you would like to see.
reddi lol
05-15-2013, 09:38 PM
Quickly skimmed through.
Not worth making a recommendation will waste bandwidth.
Faerie Blossom
05-15-2013, 09:43 PM
oh hey, thanks, glad i'm appreciated.
QQ
I approve of this thread, on a serious note :) Can never hurt to put out what you would like to see.
Nooooo, omg :(
You guys are great, I just want like a hardcore police state server where people are afraid to say bad words or pvp anywhere near NPCs for fear of being banned by the ever-present powers that be.
Like really, we love you, but have you ever even considered complete fascism? Be honest.
Nah I'm more of a wild wild west state of mind.
Oh, don't like that I'm exping here? .44 mag headshot
Salem Orchid
05-15-2013, 09:48 PM
zade you are a pal but you cant bring me yellowtext
your efforts are in vein all at the hands of lord rogean
Hold the faith, Salem NaySayer.
tehruoh
05-15-2013, 10:09 PM
Been immersed in league lately I keep the dragon on lockdown
Aka he sits in the jungle watching his gold tick up
tehruoh
05-15-2013, 10:11 PM
I can agree with variance but id rather chop my dick off than to lose mu gear to a roving ganksquad
SamwiseRed
05-15-2013, 10:12 PM
item loots. gimme those nilly shinys
Colgate
05-15-2013, 10:14 PM
I can agree with variance but id rather chop my dick off than to lose mu gear to a roving ganksquad
;_;
my pixels
:((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( ((
increased XP up to lvl 45...
Salem Orchid
05-15-2013, 10:28 PM
lol rather chop his dick off then lose pixels yikes priorities man
mostbitter
05-15-2013, 10:32 PM
Would be nice to see nihilum get their guild disbanded, leadership perma banned in response to the blatant DDoS attack against Azrael today.
SamwiseRed
05-15-2013, 10:41 PM
how did you guys get ddos? your teamspeak?
Tradesonred
05-15-2013, 11:13 PM
Id go with a large group bonus to xp, helps with forced into monotonous solo grind if xp is close to being PLd or quadding
Id go with an optional, flag yourself for item loot system
I like the idea of putting no drop stuff droppable for people who flag themselves for item loot. Only people who have flagged themselves for item loot can loot other people who are flagged, pretty obvious but system wont take off without this.
A % of damage would have to be done to someone by flagged people for body to become lootable, to prevent abuse from 4 out of 5 people not flagged, and 5th lands the killing blow. Like 75, 80%?
Item loot would make most people shy from pvp even if exp loss is removed. Would pretty much negate shit.
It would be optional, so people can choose wether or not to participate
mostbitter
05-15-2013, 11:15 PM
I'm not sure how, there are plenty of ways to make it happen. It was verified by Zade. Maybe he will speak up since he has the evidence.
HeisChuck
05-15-2013, 11:38 PM
another god damn essay :(:(:(:(
STILLnotMORNIN
05-15-2013, 11:42 PM
HB cried his way back from his suspension early in order to make another cry post that will go ignored... pras
Tradesonred
05-15-2013, 11:54 PM
Heres another thing that id like implemented:
A less dumbass pop that doesnt think someone who lost the use of his legs is funny
The last week I grinded from 22-30, I've grouped ONCE for about 10 minutes with a rogue (awesome group, right?).. have not seen anyone else around my level. Need moar bonus < 45 imo!
tehruoh
05-16-2013, 12:27 AM
lol rather chop his dick off then lose pixels yikes priorities man
I have 65 days played ( was unemployed for 2 months at kunark launch, and just went back to work recently after a month layoff at the shop i work at).
Thats alot of time invested into my pixels, so i value them. Not value like platlord though, i know what some of you are thinking.
gloinz
05-16-2013, 12:30 AM
The last week I grinded from 22-30, I've grouped ONCE for about 10 minutes with a rogue (awesome group, right?).. have not seen anyone else around my level. Need moar bonus < 45 imo!
hohoho but 51+ is where the xp for hybrids rly gets fun
big league chew
05-16-2013, 07:32 AM
how many donuts to get unbanned on forums?
Jenni D
05-16-2013, 07:54 AM
I dunno i kinda like the forum handle "big league chew"
keep imo
big league chew
05-16-2013, 08:01 AM
mebbe im asking ahead of time so i can get this one unbanned when the time comes ;)
nah im jk i just wanna be a planar protector :(:(
wuz so close
Samhain
05-16-2013, 09:22 AM
I died yesterday morning to PVP and still took EXP loss. It's one thing to say they are going to do it... I don't know why it is not in yet.
diplo
05-16-2013, 09:24 AM
I died yesterday morning to PVP and still took EXP loss. It's one thing to say they are going to do it... I don't know why it is not in yet.
Pending update....
mendan
05-16-2013, 11:16 AM
Originally Posted by mostbitter
Would be nice to see nihilum get their guild disbanded, leadership perma banned in response to the blatant DDoS attack against Azrael today.
God you're a fucking retard.
Malevz
05-16-2013, 11:29 AM
imo call this a beta, wipe server
Nothing says 'you want to play on this server' like deleting everyone's characters!
GrobbGangsta
05-16-2013, 11:36 AM
The only people who don't want to a wipe are Nihilum and NONE of them will quit if it happens. And before you start saying otherwise, lets be honest bros, you aren't going to quit. This is your life.
That being said, what is the downside?
Colgate
05-16-2013, 11:36 AM
Nothing says 'you want to play on this server' like deleting everyone's characters!
i also have a lot to lose from a wipe
dont care though, would rather have a fun box with good coding, ruleset, and integrity than pixels on this server in its current state
heartbrand
05-16-2013, 11:38 AM
I will 100% quit especially with summer around the corner / eq next in the winter. You would alsp then have to wait out the progression for content again. I cant wait for velious to be out on blue while we're still on classic waiting for rogean to flip the switch for plane of fear. All you people asking for a wipe forget that it takes hours just to hit level five untwinked? But it doesn't matter because it will never happen ever so let's focus on ways to make the server better that actually are possible to be implemented.
NecroForSale
05-16-2013, 11:43 AM
The only people crying for wipes are people who are on the bottom of the barrel.
heartbrand
05-16-2013, 11:45 AM
My nostalgia for classic eq is over. I have zero interest in doing it again and I'm already completely burnt out on Kunark. Wiping everything will just be the final nail in the coffin for me here /shrug.
Colgate
05-16-2013, 11:46 AM
negative, i am the alpha monk colgate the grandmaster
reddi lol
05-16-2013, 11:56 AM
I'd rather run around unrest with a rusty sword and tattered mantel with 10 other news with no gear than be 60 with nobody to play with.
GrobbGangsta
05-16-2013, 12:00 PM
I'd rather run around unrest with a rusty sword and tattered mantel with 10 other news with no gear than be 60 with nobody to play with.
100% agree
Jenni D
05-16-2013, 12:05 PM
Hehe the magic of a brand new server is tragically the best moments in a box's lifetime
GrobbGangsta
05-16-2013, 12:09 PM
When you login at any given time, this is the current state of the server:
One group of Azrael or Nihilum holding down Seb.
4-5 people zone hop pvping in KC/DL.
Chewie sitting in Guk.
Gloinzz ganking lvl 52 Force in CoM.
Epic rogues "cleansing" Unrest.
Sub-50 players begging for ports or items, attempting to group in empty zones, and camping out soon after.
Again, like I said, unless Runed Mithril Tunics are involved, what do you have to lose from a wipe?
Malevz
05-16-2013, 12:16 PM
The only people who don't want to a wipe are Nihilum and NONE of them will quit if it happens. And before you start saying otherwise, lets be honest bros, you aren't going to quit. This is your life.
That being said, what is the downside?
The people crying wipe are the ones that lost, and know they can't win by pvp/competition.
If GM's decide to wipe so be it. This is my first emu, and will likely be my last. There is no way I'd start over, and 0 chance I'd play on a box where wiping was the solution. Why would anyone want to level up when they know the box could just get wiped again?
I also disagree that Nihilum members wouldn't quit. After the time that many people have put into this box and leveling/gearing, I think it would be likely that nihilum would lose the highest % of people. But I think that's why people suggest it. They see it as the only way to 'win', and don't care if it kills the server.
GrobbGangsta
05-16-2013, 12:21 PM
The people crying wipe are the ones that lost, and know they can't win by pvp/competition.
If GM's decide to wipe so be it. This is my first emu, and will likely be my last. There is no way I'd start over, and 0 chance I'd play on a box where wiping was the solution. Why would anyone want to level up when they know the box could just get wiped again?
I also disagree that Nihilum members wouldn't quit. After the time that many people have put into this box and leveling/gearing, I think it would be likely that nihilum would lose the highest % of people. But I think that's why people suggest it. They see it as the only way to 'win', and don't care if it kills the server.
What you can't seem to understand (or don't want to acknowledge) is that you are just reinforcing my point. Yes, you won, and yes, the opposition cannot win by pvp or competition.
So, like I said, do you want to just flail around on an 80 pop server, regearing alt after alt with VP gear and occasionally ganking someone not in Nihilum who pops in from time to time to see what is up?
I would be like the Ravens staying in an empty stadium after winning the Superbowl and just running around in circles.
Start another season, IMO (unless all you care about is runed mithril tunics)
juicedsixfo
05-16-2013, 12:30 PM
exp thanks
Malevz
05-16-2013, 12:39 PM
Start another season, IMO
That's actually a solid argument. Server was won, lets do it again.
Problem is the server would lose a lot of it's players. The playerbase that put the most time in would be the least likely to come back. Personally I'd start looking for another classic(ish) server that didn't do wipes, or play another game. You make a good point though.
GrobbGangsta
05-16-2013, 12:46 PM
That's actually a solid argument. Server was won, lets do it again.
Problem is the server would lose a lot of it's players. The playerbase that put the most time in would be the least likely to come back. Personally I'd start looking for another classic(ish) server that didn't do wipes, or play another game. You make a good point though.
I really don't think so, though.
1. Like I said, its about as bad as it can be right now. You put a lot of time in but when there isn't any competition there is really nothing to show for it. You can't be depriving someone of what they have earned when there is nothing to deprive.
2. You and your buddies would cry foul but I guarantee there would be little attrition. The idea of forming up again and engaging in large scale chaotic PVP in classic zones is too much to resist from people who clearly like this game a lot.
3. The "fear of another wipe" argument does not hold up because this would have only been resorted to in a desperate situation.
gloinz
05-16-2013, 12:56 PM
lol wipe isn't happening no need to fret dawgs
Malevz
05-16-2013, 01:03 PM
Oh I know, it's a terrible idea. Just wondering if people actually believe it will fix things, or whether it's just trolling.
nilbog
05-16-2013, 01:17 PM
Just wondering if people actually believe it will fix things, or whether it's just trolling.
It would fix things temporarily.. till the same, or a different group rose to zerg ffa. A fresh start always temporarily increase playerbase, popularity, hope, and sense of rush. It would even personally be good for me as a developer to have unreported low level bugs discovered. It should not happen, though. Wiping characters isn't going to happen, as per Rogean and I agree with it.
From day one, I believe it should have been teams (2), item loot, and anti zone-plugging code. People thought it was too hardcore. Hardcore mechanics keep things in check when there are hardcore players. My IMOs.
Bazia
05-16-2013, 01:23 PM
Fuck the 20 pretend quitters. Lets get the 500 other people back.
Wipe.it.clean
GrobbGangsta
05-16-2013, 01:24 PM
It would fix things temporarily.. till the same, or a different group rose to zerg ffa. A fresh start always temporarily increase playerbase, popularity, hope, and sense of rush. It would even personally be good for me as a developer to have unreported low level bugs discovered. It should not happen, though. Wiping characters isn't going to happen, as per Rogean and I agree with it.
From day one, I believe it should have been teams (2), item loot, and anti zone-plugging code. People thought it was too hardcore. Hardcore mechanics keep things in check when there are hardcore players. My IMOs.
I understand where you are coming from, but at the end of the day you are choosing sticking to your guns over saving the server/providing enjoyable EQ PVP for more people.
Thepen
05-16-2013, 01:27 PM
1. Remove exp bonus completely
2. Remove Gate or double it's mana cost / cast time.
3. Fix unlimited range on aoe spells.
4. BRING BACK EXP LOSS ON PVP DEATH! Even better, double what it used to be.
Any form of exp bonus ruins the game. Want to play a melee? Roll a caster, farm, and re-roll just like everyone else.
Gate is plain stupid on this server. If I had my way, I'd have it removed completely. It needs to be nerfed so escaping isn't as easy and clicking a button and laughing at your ganker.
Pretty lame that you can nuke someone across the zone and under water as long as you got your spell to start casting. Need I say more?
There is now no reason to PvP on this server as a player that doesn't raid. I don't kill people for their plat, I kill them to waste their time. With no exp loss on pvp death people are going to treat a death like I do now. Rush your corpse until your enemy gets bored of killing you and leaves. What is the fun in that? I watched my roommate die 15 times to one person the other day with this strategy. It allowed me to get into the fight, win, and corpse camp his enemies for 3+ hours. How is this better than losing some exp? Want to know how long it took to get the exp back for those 15 deaths? 20 minutes. There isn't any reason to not be bound at your farm spot now. I plan to switch my bind as soon as the next patch is implemented. If someone comes to kill me, I'll just let them over and over until they leave. SO FUN!
For all the flamers, I'm not level 60, I have gate, a bugged aoe spell with unlimited range, my highest level melee toon is level 35 and I work a full-time job. These changes would affect me just as much as everyone else.
Bazia
05-16-2013, 01:27 PM
Well honestly a wipe may not be neccesary if they woukd massively increase the exp.
Increasee the exp so people can get to the only populated part of the serrver and wipe may not be neccesary.
reddi lol
05-16-2013, 01:31 PM
But nilbog, the second time around we wouldn't have big content contender B guild banned dooming server pre planar release.
The second time around would have all the first time around exploits removed that doomed box pre planar by creating large disparity in levels and advantage.
The second time around would have better resists and a hardcore rules er as you say that would prevent what is the shit causing pop decline #n.
The second time around would have exp bonus, yellow text, and removed xp loss on death which was request during original beta.
The second time around could follow a true accelerated timeline since box is ready to roll out updates up to current point with very low dev work since its alrdy been done.
Scrap this public beta and release Red99 live.
Something'Witty
05-16-2013, 02:16 PM
My only recommendation to the devs is that any changes be implemented in baby steps (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3JPa2mvSQ4). Large swings in game play mechanics would likely result in large swings in population (both good or bad). Adding yellow text and removing pvp xp loss are perfect examples of small scale changes; lets see what happens and then reevaluate other possible changes.
P.S. Wiping of the server would be bad imo. I for one would not re-roll on the new server for fear of just having my characters wiped again.
big league chew
05-16-2013, 02:29 PM
wipe and re-release server with permadeath enabled imo
heartbrand
05-16-2013, 03:10 PM
I would never play here if they wiped no thanks. The server needs fixes anyone can compete you saw what azrael did when they had enough people, the gear advantage meant nothing. The people on the sidelines choose not to play because they either think its (wrongly) corrupt, or they think the exp is too slow or the people they play with too dumb. A wipe won't fix any of that, if anything it would ony exasperate it. A FFA server will always have one guild on top dominating. Perhaps implement teams with a one time race change option or ability to choose your team even if it goes against the team code.
Again though this thread was for fixes that are able to be implemented not things that will never happen like wipes. I think contrary to some its not too late to implement item loot. Give people enough of a warning ahead of time to prepare accordingly. Fix resists with item loot implementation. Give a huge one month xp bonus to draw attention to server and call it a relaunch. Add in some form of a Leaderboard or point system (x points for kill or assist depending on player ranking and level) etc. Maybe a pvp vendor with some stuff. Shrug these are just my ramblings of what could make this server unique and enticing.
Bazia
05-16-2013, 03:16 PM
Massive exp increase needed if not wioe.
Rrally shud wipe tho
SamwiseRed
05-16-2013, 03:55 PM
It would fix things temporarily.. till the same, or a different group rose to zerg ffa. A fresh start always temporarily increase playerbase, popularity, hope, and sense of rush. It would even personally be good for me as a developer to have unreported low level bugs discovered. It should not happen, though. Wiping characters isn't going to happen, as per Rogean and I agree with it.
From day one, I believe it should have been teams (2), item loot, and anti zone-plugging code. People thought it was too hardcore. Hardcore mechanics keep things in check when there are hardcore players. My IMOs.
i think i just came, changing sig to show my support
Grampy
05-16-2013, 04:24 PM
I don't have time for item loot. Maybe the hardcore neck beards have time to deal with that crap but I don't. As is the server is already more demanding than any modern MMO out there and I'm ok with that but adding item loot would just push me and others like me away.
Grampy
05-16-2013, 04:26 PM
clearly spoken from experience
http://i.imgur.com/r5qaSBZ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cVlJpbw.jpg
LOL! Nice! Gate isn't a problem. As an enchanter I've had a couple druids try to gate away once rooted and I just interrupt with color flux. Hohoho!
SamwiseRed
05-16-2013, 04:26 PM
have you played recent mmos? there is full item loot enabled on a few of them. not sure how this one is more demanding unless demanding = timesink.
Grampy
05-16-2013, 04:37 PM
have you played recent mmos? there is full item loot enabled on a few of them. not sure how this one is more demanding unless demanding = timesink.
I think it is probably a given if I don't want item loot here I'm not going to play those piece of shit games either. Seriously, I work overtime every week and have a child. I'm here to have fun with a little nostalgia and some pvp with a decent amount of risk/reward.
I seriously don't understand the boners some of you get over item loot...
Jenni D
05-16-2013, 04:57 PM
Pras grampy
GODPARTICLE
05-16-2013, 05:13 PM
if (mr > 90 && spelltype == cc_thats_mr_based_and_not_unresistable) return false
SamwiseRed
05-16-2013, 05:20 PM
I think it is probably a given if I don't want item loot here I'm not going to play those piece of shit games either. Seriously, I work overtime every week and have a child. I'm here to have fun with a little nostalgia and some pvp with a decent amount of risk/reward.
I seriously don't understand the boners some of you get over item loot...
i work full time, have a kid, and woman is finishing nursing school (graduates tomorrow and i can almost smell the green back!) and i barely have time for EVE which requires no grinding. so trust me i know where you are coming from but goddamn this is the most boring ruleset possible for everquest pvp. at least item loot is something different altho id rather have teams.
Grampy
05-16-2013, 05:44 PM
i work full time, have a kid, and woman is finishing nursing school (graduates tomorrow and i can almost smell the green back!) and i barely have time for EVE which requires no grinding. so trust me i know where you are coming from but goddamn this is the most boring ruleset possible for everquest pvp. at least item loot is something different altho id rather have teams.
I would totally be into teams. :)
big league chew
05-16-2013, 05:54 PM
I think it'd be cool to log into Eqemu by going to a url and having the browser be the client instead of talking my pals into getting titanium
ur the only one that cares about this
Kastro
05-16-2013, 06:00 PM
i work full time, have a kid, and woman is finishing nursing school (graduates tomorrow and i can almost smell the green back!) and i barely have time for EVE which requires no grinding. so trust me i know where you are coming from but goddamn this is the most boring ruleset possible for everquest pvp. at least item loot is something different altho id rather have teams.
Why not have both? As much as I dislike the Sullon Zek Teams... if you did the following changes it would be pretty awesome...
Just allow some expansion of all classes through Diety changes for all teams..
Item Loot,
FV style gear with almost nothing no drop...
That would be a very interesting and Vibrant server...
SamwiseRed
05-16-2013, 06:07 PM
your ruleset is pretty flawed. especially being able to change teams. mmos lack consequences with the ability to just reroll to the winning side or reroll after shitting up your reputation. being able to defect to whomever holds the pixels is just as bad as this ffa bullshit.
hagard
05-16-2013, 06:08 PM
I just wish the devs would accept that keepin shit reallll classic isn't going to work on red
if it remains in its classic state there is no hope
Handpartytowel
05-16-2013, 06:15 PM
things id like to see implemented: tstaff toned down from 18s unresistable free win.
every death in last 3 weeks were 100%+rune to dead while tstaffed with 0 chance of any counter. shits vlassic. why dont we just put in a hammer that procs cazic touch?
if you made it 3s unresistable stun it would still be the best weapon for any class in game, and would mean death with a couple people assisting, but not just 1 monk procing then going afk to make a smoothie while auto attack kills his target.
reddi lol
05-16-2013, 06:20 PM
Lold @ afk smoothies
heartbrand
05-16-2013, 06:40 PM
Lold @ afk smoothies
Ya in teamspeak a few weeks ago I remember we were out numbered by a few in TT for trak pvp. Then rallyd showed up and proced on like eight people in a two minute period and it was GG.
heartbrand
05-16-2013, 06:44 PM
Another crazy idea, allow two boxing until pop reaches a certain threshold.
At least give new people coming here the chance to create viable groups or do content like planar clears without waiting for the one enchanter on the box not in nihilum to log on u no?
Faerie Blossom
05-16-2013, 07:18 PM
I dunno i kinda like the forum handle "big league chew"
keep imo
Also, a wipe will of course never happen, but let's get to work on those teams anyway Nilbog :)
Tradesonred
05-16-2013, 08:30 PM
It would fix things temporarily.. till the same, or a different group rose to zerg ffa. A fresh start always temporarily increase playerbase, popularity, hope, and sense of rush. It would even personally be good for me as a developer to have unreported low level bugs discovered. It should not happen, though. Wiping characters isn't going to happen, as per Rogean and I agree with it.
From day one, I believe it should have been teams (2), item loot, and anti zone-plugging code. People thought it was too hardcore. Hardcore mechanics keep things in check when there are hardcore players. My IMOs.
I dont like the idea of discovering that part of the team im with doing something really annoying and not being able to get back at em because of hardcoded teams. Thats like being stuck in a guild you dont like. Theres also balance, which is easier to maintain with non-hardcoded groups (guilds)
Its still not too late to implement optional item loot and up the xp gain a bit to repopulate server, and then eventually some better resists and tada, resurrected server, no need to talk about a wipe that wont happen.
I know i havent put 50% of the time some other people have put in the server and id quit forever, huge grind isnt new, nostalgia cannot make me grind all over again without my 55+ to fuck around with and gear my lowbies.
heartbrand
05-16-2013, 08:36 PM
Ain't no way in killin moss snakes again unless its in eq next
Faerie Blossom
05-16-2013, 08:50 PM
Ain't no way in killin moss snakes again unless its in eq next
The server isn't going to be wiped, but if it were I think we'd somehow manage without you.
heartbrand
05-16-2013, 08:52 PM
That hurts Nell we shared some warm moments in SOTN fighting the evil holocaust griefers.
Jenni D
05-16-2013, 08:55 PM
Whats our eq next guild gonna be called?
Heywood
05-16-2013, 09:06 PM
Wheelchair warriors.
Kraftwerk
05-16-2013, 09:08 PM
If everyone from Red (Nilly and non Nilly alike) joined forces for a mega guild on EQNext...they wouldn't know what hit them when that super neck beard force struck.
heartbrand
05-16-2013, 09:19 PM
;_;
my pixels
:((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( ((
If everyone from Red (Nilly and non Nilly alike) joined forces for a mega guild on EQNext...they wouldn't know what hit them when that super neck beard force struck.
Bazia
05-16-2013, 10:55 PM
eq next guild should be called <boosie fade>
reddi lol
05-16-2013, 11:05 PM
IM DOWN
Colgate
05-16-2013, 11:26 PM
tehruoh claiming he'd chop off his dick if someone ganked him and looted a VP no drop item
i fear for his life if this box were to be wiped
Littlegyno 9.0
05-16-2013, 11:29 PM
tehruoh claiming he'd chop off his dick if someone ganked him and looted a VP no drop item
i fear for his life if this box were to be wiped
pls refer to tehuroh as tehuroh the warlord pls grandmaster colgate.
FaithlessKR
05-16-2013, 11:48 PM
pls refer to tehuroh as tehuroh the tainted pls grandmaster colgate.
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