Rant

[heartbrand]

This box was close and I think even once or twice a month ago passed 200 pop. We had the wind at our backs, a nice exp bonus, lots of newbs leveling up, shit was great... but then something happened... shit got classic... REAL classic. EXP bonus was removed, pop plummetted, mage pets were machine gun rooting people with 200+ MR and Nilbog logged on to tell us shit is classic as fuck. PVP text aka yellow text was hinted, changes to exp loss hinted, month later nada. Resists still awful, communication still non-existent, pop dropping again. Blue transfers hinted, nada. Does any1 giev fuck?

[SamwiseRed]

waaaaay to involved man. step back its just a video game.

[Nirgon]

Sirken I read other forums, like this one too.

HB confirmed young hater, young conspiracist, young has every loot he ever wanted but still mad.

Calling out young pvp server?

>=)

The troll is strronnnnnnggggggggggg (read: stronk) today.

[Num1RecommendedByDentists]

you posted a thread even named "Rant" not in the section titled "Rants and Flames"

someone ban this jew

[Sektor]

This box was close and I think even once or twice a month ago passed 200 pop. We had the wind at our backs, a nice exp bonus, lots of newbs leveling up, shit was great... but then something happened... shit got classic... REAL classic. EXP bonus was removed, pop plummetted, mage pets were machine gun rooting people with 200+ MR and Nilbog logged on to tell us shit is classic as fuck. PVP text aka yellow text was hinted, changes to exp loss hinted, month later nada. Resists still awful, communication still non-existent, pop dropping again. Blue transfers hinted, nada. Does any1 giev fuck?

Good rant, those are the issues that need to be fixed. I actually got killed last night 235 Mr mage pet roots me first try. Xp bonus needs to increase to 100% from 25%. Hybrid pen is retarded. Yellow text needs to be added also.

[Nirgon]

Sektor IM me

http://www.taospaint.com/WoodysBlog08/StirringThePot.jpg

[Sektor]

you posted a thread even named "Rant" not in the section titled "Rants and Flames"

someone ban this jew

Lol cwall is my hero.

[Reddi]

SOP

[fiegi 6.5]

how long till rogaine or nilbog are like "theres a meeting of the minds right around the corner, just be patient, big things are coming!" , we been hearing that since the amelinda days :(:rolleyes:

[Nirgon]

Chuck, its time for HB.

http://meetthecoach.com/images/header.jpg

[Reddi]

Lol

[heartbrand]

I dunno, I feel like they don't want to do anything to resists until it's completely overhauled fixed, why not just start with fixing MR and making root resist rate classic? Why not have a round table discussion about t-staff? T-staff is classic but 20 monks on a 100 pop server with t-staff and 12 second stuff is not. Mage pet root should never be landing. I mean these seem like real ez coding changes but maybe I'm wrong, like I can't imagine it would take long to change the resist rate base on root to like 50 or w/e it's supposed to be, Nirgon posted it b4. Just put yellow text in for now and then implement your "pvp text" later. I just don't get it, like 99% of the box wants these things, I dunno it just blows the mind.

[Num1RecommendedByDentists]

tstaff is actually 18 seconds

[Vile]

ez fixes imo

[Nirgon]

You know its funny what you can fix in just a quick second with one line of text

[Reddi]

Turn off the 5% to land no matter what. 140 mr is alrdy the soft cap o resist root. It's the 5% possibility guaranteed that fux us.

[Nirgon]

Still won't open source resist code.... I saw better work from Null on vztz (he had more time/access). It's nothing terribly special, do yourselves a favor!

[Vile]

xp bonus: 1 simple mysql query
yellow text: 2-3 lines of code? -- i still wouldnt add it, doesn't help pop imo
fix resists: there's already a formula.. edit it, maybe a couple lines of code, test...could probably be way better than what's working now in a couple of hours..
remove xp loss on death: remove some ez code

:|

[fiegi 6.5]

ahhhhhh yes I do enjoy this type of thread every 3.5 months when it comes up. "The why don't they care, it would take 2 seconds to fix, the pop is plummeting, the server is dying, yellow txt would be so great, resists are so screwed up, how did I just get perma stunned for 18 seconds??" shrieking cries.

[Vile]

ahhhhhh yes I do enjoy this type of thread every 3.5 months when it comes up. "The why don't they care, it would take 2 seconds to fix, the pop is plummeting, the server is dying, yellow txt would be so great, resists are so screwed up, how did I just get perma stunned for 18 seconds??" shrieking cries.

m2 m2

[Reddi]

why don't they care, it would take 2 seconds to fix, the pop is plummeting, the server is dying, yellow txt would be so great, resists are so screwed up, how did I just get perma stunned for 18 seconds??

[Captivate]

pretty dis heartening remembering sirken posts from months ago asking us what we want etc... Iirc nothing was changed.

box is 20% as fun as it should be and that has nothing to do with the pop levels.

[Nirgon]

You resist the fetter spell
You resist the fetter spell
You resist the fetter spell
You resist the fetter spell
You resist the fetter spell
You resist the fetter spell
You resist the fetter spell
Your feet adhere to the ground
You die

(Over 170MR)

[Reddi]

I log on For an hour a night unless there's pvp or raid

Losing immersion too fast :( need to repair box

[fiegi 6.5]

all it takes is two 3am nights for me and i'm in the TANK for a good 2 weeks.

[Sirken]

how long till rogaine or nilbog are like "theres a meeting of the minds right around the corner, just be patient, big things are coming!" , we been hearing that since the amelinda days :(:rolleyes:

this "meeting of the minds" happened quite a while ago. the topics have been discussed at length and verbally beaten to death. theres honestly no need to discuss it anymore. it's past time for changes imo.

but you guys seem to forget, there's only so much free time in a day to work on stuff, and we have priorities. while that may not want to be what you want to hear, its the truth. Right now Velious is top priority. definitely much more important than cosmetic changes to the red server, or making the red server easier for people that dont actually enjoy playing EQ but need a high level toon to run around on.

another priority has been our RMT/Platlord crackdown which has involved all of the staff at different levels assisting Ephi and the Anti Cheater Division, which has been extremely successful.

either write the code and submit it to Nilbog,
or wait for the staff to get to it,
or stfu

[heartbrand]

1) how is fixing resists and t-staff duration a "cosmetic" change, isn't that a game breaking change?

2) how long would it really take to fix those two things, @ the very list just doing a quick fix of the root / MR stuns resist? Nirgon already posted all the info verified etc., in bugs multiple times. Why not add him as a dev?

[heartbrand]

And I'd like to point this out one more time, double xp or w/e xp bonus DOES NOT EQUAL EZMODE HERE. It is HARDER to level here than on blue because there's no one to group with + the constant threat of pvp + dying in PVP post 50+ costs you anywhere from 25 minutes to an hour worth of XP.

[Nirgon]

We're talking about something that may very well take 2 whole seconds to do that has a dramatic impact on game play as far as we're concerned.

The time it takes to make a "we'll think about it" response should cover removing the 5% chance to land code.

Randomizing t-staff duration or yellow text would take about the same.

In fact, we already saw Rogean fire a yellow text.

I will not be lectured about "time" on these subjects or told to "stfu" along side trying to be convinced of bs.

That said, you're doing your job better than anyone else could Sirkdawg.

[fiegi 6.5]

this "meeting of the minds" happened quite a while ago. the topics have been discussed at length and verbally beaten to death. theres honestly no need to discuss it anymore. it's past time for changes imo.

but you guys seem to forget, there's only so much free time in a day to work on stuff, and we have priorities. while that may not want to be what you want to hear, its the truth. Right now Velious is top priority. definitely much more important than cosmetic changes to the red server, or making the red server easier for people that dont actually enjoy playing EQ but need a high level toon to run around on.

another priority has been our RMT/Platlord crackdown which has involved all of the staff at different levels assisting Ephi and the Anti Cheater Division, which has been extremely successful.

either write the code and submit it to Nilbog,
or wait for the staff to get to it,
or stfu

Hey pal I'm just a straight shooter, I guess I just missed the thread where it said nothing was coming out of everyones suggestions from that thread a few months back.

Either way I still play every now and then, bc theres literally nothing else out there to play at times, and I know yall are doing god's work, it may look like I am, but I literally ain't complaining ;);)

[heartbrand]

I'd like to point out I don't even care about the XP bonus that much, I mean yaw I think somethin should be done about it but it's not a game changer either way imo. What is a game changer is fixing resists, specifically MR based spells like root / stun and t-staff proc which is completely destroying PVP on this server at the moment as well as xp loss on pvp death. These changes would take less than five minutes, some conjecture less than 30 seconds.

[Captivate]

http://memeorama.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/deer-with-popcorn-gif.gif


much respect sirken but nirgon just laid down the truth.

[Sirken]

1) how is fixing resists and t-staff duration a "cosmetic" change, isn't that a game breaking change?
2) how long would it really take to fix those two things, @ the very list just doing a quick fix of the root / MR stuns resist? Nirgon already posted all the info verified etc., in bugs multiple times. Why not add him as a dev?
ill tell you what. Write up the changes and send them to Rogean, and you can answer your own question.


And I'd like to point this out one more time, double xp or w/e xp bonus DOES NOT EQUAL EZMODE HERE. It is HARDER to level here than on blue because there's no one to group with + the constant threat of pvp + dying in PVP post 50+ costs you anywhere from 25 minutes to an hour worth of XP.
xp loss for pvp needs to go as well as some of the other changes, im not fighting u on that, and nilbog agrees. but this server already has 25% bonus and a scailing 1-50 bonus. how much more insta 60 do u need to it to be? but im getting off point. im not saying all the ideas are bad, i'm saying that there is only so much time in the day available to the staff to work on things, and right now that very limited time is being devoted to other, more important issues.

[Nirgon]

Just delete the line of code for pvp xp loss, commit the change to the server and be done with it.

The bonus exists because soloing from 1-50 is MIND NUMBING and there is NO population. The 50+ stuff though, pretty good / very fun depending on time of day.

How much would you like to roll a new char here Sirken, or several, and see 1 person in every starting zone? That's why they want it. Players should have to level up, ABSOLUTELY, probably even take a week or two to a month.

But who wants to watch PAINT DRY for months.

There's terrible shows on television people would rather watch than do that.

Couple that with some epic rogue twink killing them 3-4 times now.

Just let people grind up faster to get into a guild and be part of this insane social adventure we have here (read: actually play EverQuest).

[Captivate]

how the hell is working on velious more important and changing shit like exp loss / tstaff / highsun etc ?

half of the needed changes are important

half are less important but would probably take 20 minutes to add/remove .. like yellow text and who knows what else.

[Nirgon]

Make the pvp code public and we'll fix it and stfu.

EQClassic is written COMPLETELY differently and no one is going to give half a shit to steal it. It's not going to be exactly classic either way but its not going to be some skillless root spam/resist don't work retard system.

Might I add, I posted 20 bugs and they were all fixed overnight there and they weren't 2 second things. This is literally asking for YT and putting in something you already have working but refuse to.

[Sirken]

We're talking about something that may very well take 2 whole seconds to do that has a dramatic impact on game play as far as we're concerned.
The time it takes to make a "we'll think about it" response should cover removing the 5% chance to land code.
Randomizing t-staff duration or yellow text would take about the same.
In fact, we already saw Rogean fire a yellow text.
I will not be lectured about "time" on these subjects or told to "stfu" along side trying to be convinced of bs.
That said, you're doing your job better than anyone else could Sirkdawg.
1) if it takes 2 seconds, write it up in notepad or notepad++ and send it to Rogean.

2) hi smartass, way to assume that staff members only view the forums from their house. being able to view/post on the forums during a quick break and being able write code or make server changes are very different things.

3) see #1

4) we are working on pvp text

5) LECTURE ON TIME! now STFU! ;)

6) much <3

[Nirgon]

1) Paste me the block of code and I'll determine the line and remove it. Make sure you commit the change.

2) he can restart the server from work apparently? hm.

3) see #1

4) Rogean already fired yellow text, just implement it on death.

5) This isn't rocket science, see my comment.

6) Yeah same to you buddy

[Heywood]

Once velious comes out, GMs will say "sorry gaiz, can't work on pvp changes. Gotta start working on shadows of luclin."


In all honesty, I doubt any changes will come soon. GMs were just trying to feed us bs we wanted to hear. A few months ago we went from "PVP changes in the works" to "if you want changes, write the code yourself and MAYBE nilbog will consider it, or stfu."

[Nirgon]

Being asked with a straight face to remove lines of code I don't have access to, this topped my day which is saying something.

[fiegi 6.5]

Once velious comes out, GMs will say "sorry gaiz, can't work on pvp changes. Gotta start working on shadows of luclin."


In all honesty, I doubt any changes will come soon. GMs were just trying to feed the bs we wanted to hear. A few months ago we went from "PVP changes in the works" to "if you want changes, write the code yourself and MAYBE nilbog will consider it, or stfu."

at least were moving in a direction, and its pretty clear - instead of just being stuck with blue balls




finally

[Sirken]

1) Paste me the block of code and I'll determine the line and remove it. Make sure you commit the change.

2) he can restart the server from work apparently? hm.

3) see #1

4) Rogean already fired yellow text, just implement it on death.

5) This isn't rocket science, see my comment.

6) Yeah same to you buddy

1) PM Rogean to get it.

2) the server admin can restart the server from anywhere. again, much different than sitting down and making actual changes, or writing code.

3) i forgot what #3 was about. so bla bla bla tell/ask rogean for it

4) firing a server wide emote in yellow font is not the same as the pvp yellow text u all are use to. i can fire off fake yellow text too. but ive already told you, we are working on our pvp text.

5) then you should have it in rogeans PM box pretty soon i suppose.

6) the wind beneath my wings

[SamwiseRed]

sirken, can we take a ride to RNF already?

[Captivate]

yeah all this shit might be possible if anyone has ever heard of rogean showing face in like a year


sirken you really think he will reply to any of us? can you imagine his inbox full of blue bullshit ?


atleast give us a real proposal not juts "send it to rogean" because rogean doesnt exist...

[Nirgon]

1) Rogean doesn't answer hence our problem

2) Having access to the server doesn't mean you have access to the server OK

3) ROGEAN DOES NOT RESPOND OR APPARENTLY CARE ABOUT MAKING CHANGES TO PVP. HENCE OUR PROBLEM HERE.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpxekhK6mG1qfj1cco1_500.gif

The entire point we're making is very small changes that he won't respond to. MONTHS ago Nilbog said he'd "ask Rogean" to make the pvp code public because obviously Null isn't returning. I'm sure no answer was given here also. Hence we're appealing to someone like Null or otherwise to try an... really?

I mean really. We're actually having a conversation about removing the xp loss from pvp death and processes and shit? Or raising xp? We've seen xp changed within 2 seconds of seeing the problem, twice. Once it went in with Sundawg's "hot fixes" to Chardok and TD raptors (funny thing considering the recent events). Another time Nilbog said "he noticed it and fixed it" in global OOC when he was online in red in about 2 seconds.

We notice and remember things. Treating people like they're stupid or trying to convince them how difficult something MEAGER like removing xp loss on death would be is fucking comical.

Tell me again these things wouldn't take more than a minute brudda.

We're not after you. Notice how there's 0 threads of "Sirken is a horrible GM playing sides!". We understand you can make a mistake or two. Amelinda, however, had entire novels written about how terrible she was, suspected corruption etc.. notice how things turned out? Imagine for a minute we can recognize obvious behavior and realize how much of a "nah fuck you" it is to be told the sky is fucking green or some shit.

4/5/6 got you covered on the job you're doing, save yourself trying to defend the rest

[lite]

fix the pvp deaths and everything else becomes irrelevant. People's level of frustration derives from one pvp death forcing them to exp for 3 hours. ( maybe more depending on class / race and assuming they find a group). The fun to grind ratio is not sustainable. People only complain about root / stuns / resist ect, because its the first thing that comes to mind after they look at their exp bar when they die.

[Jenni D]

Pop does seem to be dropping though ;(

[Nirgon]

Or when they have 168 magic resist and something that should be a total non issue at that point lands on the first cast :P.

[HippoNipple]

It is really sad the changes haven't been done yet.

Obvious facts:

1) Changes wouldn't take much time.
2) The ones in charge know what we want since the talk has happened according to Sirken.
3) Nilbog at least agrees with some quick and easy changes according to Sirken.

What else can be said besides they just don't care.

Implementing an expansion, Velious, takes a tremendous amount of time and of course if you have to choose which is most important you choose Velious, but in this case it is irrelevant since there is such a drastic gap in the amount of time each one requires.

Velious is going to take months and months to implement and it will benefit all active players of project 1999, red and blue.

These pvp changes literally take an hour out of someone's day and would benefit 15-20% of project 1999 player base. It is a no brainer on the priority list to implement the changes if the ones in charge cared.

[lite]

With Pvp death.

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME, I JUST GOT T STAFFED FIRST HIT. I LOST MY LEVEL> FUSjklbdalsjbdka

After pvp death fix.

OMG that faggot got so lucky, omw back . LUlzzz


WE JUST WANT TO FIGHT


we absolutely understand that there are things that take priority as far as the future of project 1999 goes. But this one crucial change that I believe is very simply to apply is a determining factor to this box.

[Dacuk]

you know that this issue is completely true when Heartbrand makes a post and everyone in the community agrees. +1 from me.

Sirken - appreciate your efforts and assistance, but there have literally been 0 PVP improvements since server release (with the exception of the xp bonus) - there is so much low hanging fruit for pvp improvement its silly to defend the status quo.

[Malevz]

Since no one else is going to say it I'll just do it:

Azrael asking for removal of exp loss in pvp and more exp because the people training and triggering DT cycle are too much work to relevel. With the DT's they took, and Gongshow killing them, they will need new people to trigger DT cycle and train.

Just buy a new char if Sektor and Sergei and whatever the other guys name is are too low level, and you need throw away accounts to train and die on. Quit whining

[fiegi 6.5]

the bin laden of norrath (coach) once was turned jihad by these issues, just let it go!!!!

[Nirgon]

Or do it like live?

Make someone chain aggroing CT illegal?

You know live EQ had systems that worked. Designed by many of the same people who made the content you all love.

Shrug, shame on me playing both sides and pointing out problems where they exist (objectively).




Well, that was good. Hadn't done one of those in a while. Back to your scheduled ForumQuest.

[karsten]

you know that this issue is completely true when Heartbrand makes a post and everyone in the community agrees. +1 from me.

[bigeasy]

nobody pays a red cent to play on this box,, so stfu already seriously,, if you dont like it move and play something else you pay for and also have to deal with things not getting changed,, how many times did Verant say "you're in our world now" how is that any different here? just because the GM's and devs are more accessible than they were on live,, doesn't mean for a damn second they should should be at your every beckon call

deal with it

[Reddi]

Malevz retarded.

CT is a PvE death.

[Graahle]

personally, i think exp loss on pvp death is the best thing about this server

carry on

Well that's because BIG CHEW goes hard as nads in the god damn paint.:cool:

[Reddi]

Since this is RnF: Filthed ur just another faggot that was griefed off pre50 and retooled a secret alt to suck the same guys weiner that you were making fun of before getting griefed.

[tarran]

my friend said he could fix the code.
not trolling.
ill have him get in contact with you sirken, and nilbog

also can u check my pm? i sent that shit like weeks ago, would really appreciate it

[raka]

This box was close and I think even once or twice a month ago passed 200 pop. We had the wind at our backs, a nice exp bonus, lots of newbs leveling up, shit was great... but then something happened... shit got classic... REAL classic. EXP bonus was removed, pop plummetted, mage pets were machine gun rooting people with 200+ MR and Nilbog logged on to tell us shit is classic as fuck. PVP text aka yellow text was hinted, changes to exp loss hinted, month later nada. Resists still awful, communication still non-existent, pop dropping again. Blue transfers hinted, nada. Does any1 giev fuck?

Dont worry. This emulated server is not just a cash cow for a few, cupid shufflin', jongleurs.

There is more to it...

fuck bitches, slay dragons, sip purp

[Heywood]

Since no one else is going to say it I'll just do it:

Azrael asking for removal of exp loss in pvp and more exp because the people training and triggering DT cycle are too much work to relevel. With the DT's they took, and Gongshow killing them, they will need new people to trigger DT cycle and train.

Just buy a new char if Sektor and Sergei and whatever the other guys name is are too low level, and you need throw away accounts to train and die on. Quit whining


Nautsheriff srs...

[Captivate]

Since no one else is going to say it I'll just do it:

Azrael asking for removal of exp loss in pvp and more exp because the people training and triggering DT cycle are too much work to relevel. With the DT's they took, and Gongshow killing them, they will need new people to trigger DT cycle and train.

Just buy a new char if Sektor and Sergei and whatever the other guys name is are too low level, and you need throw away accounts to train and die on. Quit whining

triggering dt cycle eating a pve death has nothing to do with anything fuck nut.

[fiegi 6.5]

Since no one else is going to say it I'll just do it:

Azrael asking for removal of exp loss in pvp and more exp because the people training and triggering DT cycle are too much work to relevel. With the DT's they took, and Gongshow killing them, they will need new people to trigger DT cycle and train.

Just buy a new char if Sektor and Sergei and whatever the other guys name is are too low level, and you need throw away accounts to train and die on. Quit whining

this man is from MARS

[Reddi]

fuck bitches, slay dragons

that's a keeper

[heartbrand]

what's so infuriating about this server is that it's just like one four hour session by someone who can make the fixes of caring away from being great. like rly that's all that's needed here just someone on a rainy day to care for four hours and make some fixes, many of which have already been pointed out exactly what is needed with documented proof ad nauseum on these boards 100000x. fuck i'd donate for that, im sure lots of other people wud too, what's the # what we need to get for someone to do that?

[Faerie Blossom]

Stop complaining, everyone. They've said that they are are working on most of the important changes we want to see, and with the way you're all acting it's no wonder they haven't been implemented yet. But this isn't the answer to increasing population, that honestly has to come from us.

You're all making the end game here almost unplayable, and this is something you complain about when it's up to you to make this better. I've stopped taking time out of my gaming time to buff/port Nihilum now (unless I'm not busy) because some of your players won't stop killing me naked and/or CCing me for fun. I didn't think it would happen, especially so quickly, but you're kind of making me feel bitter toward this video game. And this is one thing we are able to control. We can make this a fun environment to play in if we so choose, and I really try to, but I really don't think many people would put up with it. It's one thing when Flowers grief, they stay low level and don't really have anything else. Nihilum is big enough that they shouldn't feel they have to tarnish their reputation like that, but you'd rather prevent anyone else from getting any dragon kills than you would see the population increase.

I think that's the real problem; there's no reason for anyone new to join the server unless they want to join Nihilum and kill all the respawns once a week then log off. Azrael is no better. Just because you're trying to compete with the bad guys is no reason to bring yourself down to their level. Both guilds seem to completely lack respect for themselves, and for the server.

There is no dev/GM fix for this mess we've caused. Change must come from within.

[heartbrand]

I saw the words stop complaining and then a wall of china sized amount of text and immediately stopped reading

[Reddi]

You have my dollars
And my sword.

[Malevz]

this man is from MARS

Easier/double exp means more high level chars to train and set off DT cycle.
As for exp loss in pvp, Azrael is the (self proclaimed) number 1 pvp guild on the server, surely you don't worry about exp loss in pvp, it should only be us Nihilum that are worried bout losing exp!

(cue excuses)

[Faerie Blossom]

reported for slander
ill be home in 2 hours to stomp your level 50somethin face for literally the 80th time

Well, you know what I meant. Even back in 1999, grief was FoH's "thing". It's what you guys do, and to expect anything but is just silly. I didn't mean any disrespect.

[Captivate]

I for one would not cry when they fix all this stuff, implement velious, fix those kinks, then either wipe this server or make a new one. Blue needs it too from what i hear.

[fiegi 6.5]

what's so infuriating about this server is that it's just like one four hour session by someone who can make the fixes of caring away from being great. like rly that's all that's needed here just someone on a rainy day to care for four hours and make some fixes, many of which have already been pointed out exactly what is needed with documented proof ad nauseum on these boards 100000x. fuck i'd donate for that, im sure lots of other people wud too, what's the # what we need to get for someone to do that?

You should already have this time of information being a top donor imo

[Captivate]

Easier/double exp means more high level chars to train and set off DT cycle.
As for exp loss in pvp, Azrael is the (self proclaimed) number 1 pvp guild on the server, surely you don't worry about exp loss in pvp, it should only be us Nihilum that are worried bout losing exp!

(cue excuses)

none of you pvp without a full grp

case null

[fiegi 6.5]

Easier/double exp means more high level chars to train and set off DT cycle.
As for exp loss in pvp, Azrael is the (self proclaimed) number 1 pvp guild on the server, surely you don't worry about exp loss in pvp, it should only be us Nihilum that are worried bout losing exp!

(cue excuses)

or you can just get a rogue to drag the 20 pve corpses to the entrance and stick them in 25 minutes and lose about the equivalent of 3 pvp deaths tops.

use you're brian moran

[Malevz]

or you can just get a rogue to drag the 20 pve corpses to the entrance and stick them in 25 minutes and lose about the equivalent of 3 pvp deaths tops.

use you're brian moran

Also run back to corpse with no exp penalty, isn't that what they do in WoW? You got that from WoW didn't you?

[heartbrand]

I have no idea why this thread is gettin shit up by azrael v nihilum wut does it have to do with there being almost universally agreed changes that r super ez 2 b made, people volunteering 2 make them, and still nothin happening?

[Faerie Blossom]

I saw the words stop complaining and then a wall of china sized amount of text and immediately stopped reading

Stop complaining to the GMs. It's okay when I complain about the players.

[heartbrand]

This message is hidden because Faerie Blossom is on your ignore list.

noice

[fiegi 6.5]

Also run back to corpse with no exp penalty, isn't that what they do in WoW? You got that from WoW didn't you?

I think you have me confused, I prefer the xp loss in pvp, I don't need my hand held- don't bunch everyone together chief.

[Splorf22]

Removing PVP xp death, adding yellow text, and nerfing the tranquil staff would probably take about 5 minutes. Those are all literally 1 liners.

Implementing the classic resist system is also a 1-liner if the pvpresistX stuff is in the database and I understand things correctly:

resist = ((targetlevel-casterlevel)*(pvpresistbase-pvpresistmax)/pvplevelrange + pvpresistbase + GetResist()) > Random(0, pvpresistcalc-pvpresistbase)

Note that true classic resists do not equal trivial immunity to root. Lucy has Fetter at pvpresistmax = -49, pvpresistbase = 12, pvpresistcalc = 135. So a L60 would be immune at 123MR and a L52 at 184MR. If there is an enchanter around with the 50% SZ debuff bonus, you'd need 183MR. At 150MR as an even con with tash (effective 90MR) you'd only resist 75% of the time.

[heartbrand]

Removing PVP xp death, adding yellow text, and nerfing the tranquil staff would probably take about 5 minutes. Those are all literally 1 liners.

Implementing the classic resist system is also a 1-liner if the pvpresistX stuff is in the database and I understand things correctly:

resist = ((targetlevel-casterlevel+pvplevelrange)*(pvpresistbase-pvpresistmax)/pvplevelrange + GetResist()) > Random(0, pvpresistmax-pvpresistbase)

some1 who gets it, I knew I made the right choice givin this guy some hand outs

[Malevz]

I have no idea why this thread is gettin shit up by azrael v nihilum wut does it have to do with there being almost universally agreed changes that r super ez 2 b made, people volunteering 2 make them, and still nothin happening?

After we remove the exp death from pvp can we get those hearthstone things too so we can all gate/bind in the closest tavern? That would be awesome. EQ is hard and I should not be punished for losing in pvp, it's not like this is a pvp server. Wait, what? It is?

[Captivate]

Also run back to corpse with no exp penalty, isn't that what they do in WoW? You got that from WoW didn't you?

pvp exp loss is not or never was classic, you're blatantly stupid as shit.

[Malevz]

pvp exp loss is not or never was classic, you're blatantly stupid as shit.

I'm sorry you die a lot in pvp, I can bring a box a tissue to your bind spot if you like and together we can have a good cry :(

[lite]

seriously don't let this become a nihi vs azrael thread.

[heartbrand]

wait wut exp loss on pvp death isn't classic I don't follow

[Captivate]

I'm sorry you die a lot in pvp, I can bring a box a tissue to your bind spot if you like and together we can have a good cry :(

Lol i definitely do not die often in pvp.


If i do its never a 1v1. I come at you guys 1v6+ all the time.

You def dont want to see me when i dont have to hold back the most dangerous odds.


Also, thanks for confirming you have no idea how pvp servers were ran back in the day.

[Captivate]

Only server to implement exp loss in pvp was sullon, and you could res that corpse back for exp.


So shits not classic retards.

[heartbrand]

no1 even disagrees about removing exp loss from death it's just a question of y can't it happen today

[Heywood]

pvp exp loss is not or never was classic, you're blatantly stupid as shit.

[Reddi]

Malevz just derailing

[Malevz]

Lol i definitely do not die often in pvp.


If i do its never a 1v1. I come at you guys 1v6+ all the time.

You def dont want to see me when i dont have to hold back the most dangerous odds.


Also, thanks for confirming you have no idea how pvp servers were ran back in the day.

I've never seen someone named 'Captivate' in game, no name in sig, so I will go on a limb and confirm this person is a great pvper, who never dies, but feels exp loss should be removed from all the people he has killed. Truly a gentleman.

I was pvp all the way from kunark when I started to god when I quit. You never heard of me on prexus or xegony or whereever you were from? Seriously tissues, and you might even get a hug, no more tears now.

[Captivate]

I've never seen someone named 'Captivate' in game, no name in sig, so I will go on a limb and confirm this person is a great pvper, who never dies, but feels exp loss should be removed from all the people he has killed. Truly a gentleman.

I was pvp all the way from kunark when I started to god when I quit. You never heard of me on prexus or xegony or whereever you were from? Seriously tissues, and you might even get a hug, no more tears now.

< freez / cheeseycakes


so what youre saying is you just forgot? or youre downy?

[STILLnotMORNIN]

what's so infuriating about this server is that it's just like one four hour session by someone who can make the fixes of caring away from being great. like rly that's all that's needed here just someone on a rainy day to care for four hours and make some fixes, many of which have already been pointed out exactly what is needed with documented proof ad nauseum on these boards 100000x. fuck i'd donate for that, im sure lots of other people wud too, what's the # what we need to get for someone to do that?

Man.. same dude that was questioning my immersion and forum posts yesterday is going to town today saying same shit that is said every 2 weeks... I mean agree with u HB.. but cmon.. your wasting ur time.

[Reddi]

Downy, not the fabric softener.

[heartbrand]

just ignore derail attempts lets keep on point

[Malevz]

< freez / cheeseycakes


so what youre saying is you just forgot? or youre downy?

HAHAHAHAHAHA, omg this explains the whole crying about exp loss in pvp.

Seriously, I'm against this, there should be some other penalty beyond running back to your corpse, looting up, and jumping back in a fight. I'd be for it if there was like a PvP rez effects thing added to keep people out of the fight.

Another example is plane of fear (sorry) Azrael sends their DT triggers/trainers in from outside the portal, we root/snare kill them, NO WORRIES I'M BOUND OUTSIDE! I can do this FOREVER. Least with exp loss they would eventually be under 46 and could stop training/triggering. The trainer starts the DT cycle/trains the guild before we kill them, exp death, but they get what they want.

Exp loss removal for pvp for Azrael is win/win.

[Nirgon]

Fun thread while it lasted HB, try again next year

[Reddi]

Malevz literally retarded, and I'm usually against that politically incorrect word

[Captivate]

HAHAHAHAHAHA, omg this explains the whole crying about exp loss in pvp.

Seriously, I'm against this, there should be some other penalty beyond running back to your corpse, looting up, and jumping back in a fight. I'd be for it if there was like a PvP rez effects thing added to keep people out of the fight.

Another example is plane of fear (sorry) Azrael sends their DT triggers/trainers in from outside the portal, we root/snare kill them, NO WORRIES I'M BOUND OUTSIDE! I can do this FOREVER. Least with exp loss they would eventually be under 46 and could stop training/triggering. The trainer starts the DT cycle/trains the guild before we kill them, exp death, but they get what they want.

Exp loss removal for pvp for Azrael is win/win.



could you PLEASE look through my post history and find 1 post that sounds anything like crying about pvp exp loss?

shit would be nice but its damn sure not the top of my wish list.

[Reddi]

Don't worry his own guildies think he's annoying all he talks about is gay shit and his coke/alcohol problems

[heartbrand]

Gotta disagree pretty strongly with my fellow guild mate here

[Malevz]

Malevz literally retarded, and I'm usually against that politically incorrect word

If only I could be more like retti, if only the whole server was more like retti, we wouldn't need a heaven, we would already be in it.

[Captivate]

malev stop posting

[Sektor]

fix the pvp deaths and everything else becomes irrelevant. People's level of frustration derives from one pvp death forcing them to exp for 3 hours. ( maybe more depending on class / race and assuming they find a group). The fun to grind ratio is not sustainable. People only complain about root / stuns / resist ect, because its the first thing that comes to mind after they look at their exp bar when they die.

[STILLnotMORNIN]

lol Malevz shitting up this entire thread started by his own precious HB... A+ work Malevz

[Malevz]

lol Malevz shitting up this entire thread started by his own precious HB... A+ work Malevz

I live to serve sir, or mostly to keep myself entertained at work.

[Heywood]

Minus dkp for malevz

[lite]

exp death removal wouldn't fix all of our problems, it would make them less relevant and far more tolerable.

[Reddi]

If only I could be more like retti, if only the whole server was more like retti, we wouldn't need a heaven, we would already be in it.

[Sirken]

use you're brian moran
really? no ones gonna touch that?

[STILLnotMORNIN]

really? no ones gonna touch that?

IT A TRAP... that u just fell in..

[juicedsixfo]

i feel like im punishing myself to level here so that i can participate with my bros



definitely classic

[Reddi]

really? no ones gonna touch that?
Ya something looks off, I think he misused the word Use.

[juicedsixfo]

using ~classic~ as a justification as why things are they way they are is pretty frustrating considering there's fucking exp loss on pvp death

if you can have exp death, we should have yt

if you can't have yt, we shouldn't have exp death


does not compute

[Faerie Blossom]

I don't really have anything against yellow text, but can someone explain why it would improve the server?

[juicedsixfo]

precisely

[Casey II]

I want cosmetic changes for heartbrand's jew nose. Fuck resists.

[Malevz]

Thread was enjoyable, would troll again.

Also your slander against the Emperor has not gone unnoticed.

[Xantille]

oh god



oh god



oh god



i accidentally clicked on an ad at the top of the page? what do i do?

gonna throw my computer into a lake just to be safe.

[Reddi]

Show your receipt in IRC xant

[Heywood]

Catblock is your friend bru. Replaces ads with pictures of dacbane's cat.

[heartbrand]

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Just so this is .. on the books:

PC pet names should be distinct per class. I think. Research will verify, but I'm including this as it's a completely external research project. Necromancer pets should be named from a different list than Magician pets. The same likely goes for Enchanters and Shamans. i.e. Ever seen a necromancer pet named 'Laser' ?

I increased the known pet name list on eqemu prior to p99 launch in 2009. Nothing has been done since.

const char *GetRandPetName()
{
static const char *petnames[] = { "Gabaner","Gabann","Gabantik","Gabarab","Gabarer","Gabarn","Gabartik",
"Gabekab","Gabeker","Gabekn","Gaber","Gabn","Gabobab","Gabobn","Gabtik",
"Ganer","Gann","Gantik","Garab","Garaner","Garann","Garantik","Gararn",
"Garekn","Garer","Garn","Gartik","Gasaner","Gasann","Gasantik","Gasarer",
"Gasartik","Gasekn","Gaser","Gebann","Gebantik","Gebarer","Gebarn","Gebartik",
"Gebeker","Gebekn","Gebn","Gekab","Geker","Gekn","Genaner","Genann","Genantik",
"Genarer","Genarn","Gener","Genn","Genobtik","Gibaner","Gibann","Gibantik",
"Gibarn","Gibartik","Gibekn","Giber","Gibn","Gibobtik","Gibtik","Gobaber",
"Gobaner","Gobann","Gobarn","Gobartik","Gober","Gobn","Gobober","Gobobn",
"Gobobtik","Gobtik","Gonaner","Gonann","Gonantik","Gonarab","Gonarer",
"Gonarn","Gonartik","Gonekab","Gonekn","Goner","Gonobtik","Gontik","Gotik",
"Jabaner","Jabann","Jabantik","Jabarab","Jabarer","Jabarn","Jabartik",
"Jabekab","Jabeker","Jabekn","Jaber","Jabn","Jabobtik","Jabtik","Janab",
"Janer","Jann","Jantik","Jarab","Jaranab","Jaraner","Jararer","Jararn",
"Jarartik","Jareker","Jarekn","Jarer","Jarn","Jarobn","Jarobtik","Jartik",
"Jasab","Jasaner","Jasantik","Jasarer","Jasartik","Jasekab","Jaseker",
"Jasekn","Jaser","Jasn","Jasobab","Jasober","Jastik","Jebanab","Jebann",
"Jebantik","Jebarab","Jebarar","Jebarer","Jebarn","Jebartik","Jebeker",
"Jebekn","Jeber","Jebobn","Jebtik","Jekab","Jeker","Jekn","Jenann",
"Jenantik","Jenarer","Jeneker","Jenekn","Jentik","Jibaner","Jibann",
"Jibantik","Jibarer","Jibarn","Jibartik","Jibeker","Jibn","Jibobn",
"Jibtik","Jobab","Jobaner","Jobann","Jobantik","Jobarn","Jobartik",
"Jobekab","Jobeker","Jober","Jobn","Jobtik","Jonanab","Jonaner",
"Jonann","Jonantik","Jonarer","Jonarn","Jonartik","Jonekab","Joneker",
"Jonekn","Joner","Jonn","Jonnarn","Jonober","Jonobn","Jonobtik","Jontik",
"Kabanab","Kabaner","Kabann","Kabantik","Kabarer","Kabarn","Kabartik",
"Kabeker","Kabekn","Kaber","Kabn","Kabober","Kabobn","Kabobtik","Kabtik",
"Kanab","Kaner","Kann","Kantik","Karab","Karanab","Karaner","Karann",
"Karantik","Kararer","Karartik","Kareker","Karer","Karn","Karobab","Karobn",
"Kartik","Kasaner","Kasann","Kasarer","Kasartik","Kaseker","Kasekn","Kaser",
"Kasn","Kasober","Kastik","Kebann","Kebantik","Kebarab","Kebartik","Kebeker",
"Kebekn","Kebn","Kebobab","Kebtik","Kekab","Keker","Kekn","Kenab","Kenaner",
"Kenantik","Kenarer","Kenarn","Keneker","Kener","Kenn","Kenobn","Kenobtik",
"Kentik","Kibab","Kibaner","Kibantik","Kibarn","Kibartik","Kibekab","Kibeker",
"Kibekn","Kibn","Kibobn","Kibobtik","Kobab","Kobanab","Kobaner","Kobann",
"Kobantik","Kobarer","Kobarn","Kobartik","Kobeker","Kobekn","Kober","Kobn",
"Kobober","Kobobn","Kobtik","Konanab","Konaner","Konann","Konantik","Konarab",
"Konarer","Konarn","Konekab","Koneker","Konekn","Koner","Konn","Konobn",
"Konobtik","Kontik","Labanab","Labaner","Labann","Labarab","Labarer",
"Labarn","Labartik","Labeker","Labekn","Laner","Lann","Larab","Larantik",
"Lararer","Lararn","Larartik","Lareker","Larer","Larn","Lartik","Lasaner",
"Lasann","Lasarer","Laseker","Laser","Lasik","Lasn","Lastik","Lebaner",
"Lebarer","Lebartik","Lebekn","Lebtik","Lekab","Lekn","Lenanab","Lenaner",
"Lenann","Lenartik","Lenekab","Leneker","Lenekn","Lentik","Libab","Libaner",
"Libann","Libantik","Libarer","Libarn","Libartik","Libeker","Libekn","Lobann",
"Lobarab","Lobarn","Lobartik","Lobekn","Lobn","Lobober","Lobobn","Lobtik",
"Lonaner","Lonann","Lonantik","Lonarab","Lonarer","Lonarn","Lonartik","Lonekn",
"Loner","Lonobtik","Lontik","Vabanab","Vabaner","Vabann","Vabantik","Vabarer",
"Vabarn","Vabartik","Vabeker","Vabekn","Vabtik","Vanikk","Vann","Varartik","Varn",
"Vartik","Vasann","Vasantik","Vasarab","Vasarer","Vaseker","Vebaner","Vebantik",
"Vebarab","Vebeker","Vebekn","Vebobn","Vekab","Veker","Venaner","Venantik","Venar",
"Venarn","Vener","Ventik","Vibann","Vibantik","Viber","Vibobtik","Vobann",
"Vobarer","Vobartik","Vobekn","Vober","Vobn","Vobtik","Vonaner","Vonann",
"Vonantik","Vonarab","Vonarn","Vonartik","Voneker","Vonn","Xabanab","Xabaner",
"Xabarer","Xabarn","Xabartik","Xabekab","Xabeker","Xabekn","Xaber","Xabober",
"Xaner","Xann","Xarab","Xaranab","Xarann","Xarantik","Xararer","Xarartik","Xarer",
"Xarn","Xartik","Xasaner","Xasann","Xasarab","Xasarn","Xasekab","Xaseker",
"Xebarer","Xebarn","Xebeker","Xeber","Xebober","Xebtik","Xekab","Xeker",
"Xekn","Xenann","Xenantik","Xenarer","Xenartik","Xenekn","Xener","Xenober",
"Xentik","Xibantik","Xibarer","Xibekab","Xibeker","Xibobab","Xibober","Xibobn",
"Xobaner","Xobann","Xobarab","Xobarn","Xobekab","Xobeker","Xobekn","Xober",
"Xobn","Xobobn","Xobtik","Xonaner","Xonann","Xonantik","Xonarer","Xonartik",
"Xonekab","Xoneker","Xonekn","Xoner","Xonober","Xtik","Zabaner","Zabantik",
"Zabarab","Zabekab","Zabekn","Zaber","Zabn","Zabobab","Zabober","Zabtik",
"Zaner","Zantik","Zarann","Zarantik","Zararn","Zarartik","Zareker","Zarekn",
"Zarer","Zarn","Zarober","Zartik","Zasaner","Zasarer","Zaseker","Zasekn","Zasn",
"Zebantik","Zebarer","Zebarn","Zebartik","Zebobab","Zekab","Zekn","Zenann",
"Zenantik","Zenarer","Zenarn","Zenekab","Zeneker","Zenobtik","Zibanab","Zibaner",
"Zibann","Zibarer","Zibartik","Zibekn","Zibn","Zibobn","Zobaner","Zobann",
"Zobarn","Zober","Zobn","Zonanab","Zonaner","Zonann","Zonantik","Zonarer",
"Zonartik","Zonobn","Zonobtik","Zontik","Ztik" };
int r = MakeRandomInt(0, (sizeof(petnames)/sizeof(const char *))-1);
printf("Pet being created: %s\n",petnames[r]); // DO NOT COMMENT THIS OUT!
return petnames[r];
}If we had different lists for the different pet classes, we could distinguish them upon summoning.

are what are fucking driving us red players crazy when we see literally GAME BREAKING issues almost TWO YEARS into the server go untouched that would take LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES to fix

[fiegi 6.5]

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are what are fucking driving us red players crazy when we see literally GAME BREAKING issues almost TWO YEARS into the server go untouched that would take LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES to fix

gotta get the globe graphics just right on the skyfire portals

[nilbog]

Get crazy then.

I'm the lead content developer.

[Clark]

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[Reddi]

Get crazy then.

I'm the lead content developer.

Halp
H3lp

Who is the lead pvp developer? We would like a word with him.

[Malevz]

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Heartbrand lookin goooooooooooood. You need to ditch the Ender-rage and have a snapple/vodka sir.

[Heywood]

The problem isn't sirken or nilbog, afaik they have no problem implementing what the masses want (no exp loss of PvP, yt, free smallmee, etc), it's rogean who is putting his foot down, or he can't be arsed to make those changes. For one reason or another.

[Alecta]

either write the code and submit it to Nilbog,
or wait for the staff to get to it,
or stfu

Submitting code is a lot easier if we have the source available. I tried submitting a few lines o code, basing it off the public stock source, but just got trolled and asked if I knew what a code fork was.

Anyway, if the staff decides to rope in some folks from the community, I am sure there is no shortage of people willing to help.

[Stinkum]

The issues raised in this thread is the reason why I never bothered getting past level 2 on Red.

[Captivate]

hey glad to know shit like class specific pet names are being addressed today instead of just about any problem on red that could be fixed with 1/10th the wit and 1/100th the time.




bravo...

[Malevz]

Removing global ooc would correct 1000% of the problems on the server.

[Littlegyno 9.0]

I think we should get Voidd to help with race/sex class food/water requirements. Obviously a halfing or gnome consumes less food/water than a Troll or Ogre!!!!

[Sirken]

Halp
H3lp
Who is the lead pvp developer? We would like a word with him.

i think what nilbog meant was that just about all of these changes fall into Rogeans domain or require Rogean at some level.

[Num1RecommendedByDentists]

i think what nilbog meant was that just about all of these changes fall into Rogeans domain or require Rogean at some level.

aka happening never

[heartbrand]

O it needs rogean. Lol GG

[Captivate]

aka happening never

[heartbrand]

Not rly sure why rogean is needed for making classic changes but ok?

[Alecta]

I think we should get Voidd to help with race/sex class food/water requirements. Obviously a halfing or gnome consumes less food/water than a Troll or Ogre!!!!

Haha, I remember that. Shortly afterwards we actually started adding priority to the bugs in the bug tracker. El oh el.

[nilbog]

hey glad to know shit like class specific pet names are being addressed today instead of just about any problem on red that could be fixed with 1/10th the wit and 1/100th the time.




bravo...

No problem.

Want to research pet names together?

Not rly sure why rogean is needed for making classic changes but ok?

I've said many times regardless of the difficulty (-1 for these), code changes still must go through Rogean because he is in charge of the source. Not sure why this doesn't resonate with you.

Are you content with your content? I'm the lead content developer. Want to talk about pet names with me?

[Captivate]

i cannot wrap my mind around why nilbog would work on class specific pet names while the red server has vocally asked for this stuff to be fixed for literally "years".

[Captivate]

Ok so rogean is the only one who can change all of these problems?


Cant someone who can actually get in touch with him.... ask him?

[heartbrand]

Ok, so why does Rogean hate us? It's almost been two years. If he hates this server why can't he give it over to you? Why does someone who hates / doesn't care about this server run it? I'm not trolling here I'm being 100% serious, if he doesn't care about red why doesn't he give it to you? Does all he have to do is like say yes to changes is that really all we need for this server to be fixed for him to utter one word? This is why we're so frustrated here, you're admitting the changes needed for the last two years almost are incredibly easy to implement but can't happen without rogean saying one word, yes. Does it require more action from him than saying yes? Can we do something to help? Anything? Or should we wait another couple of years?

[fiegi 6.5]

no hoots given about the red headed step child (red99) since day 2

[Stinkum]

hb scuba deep sea diving immersed

[Captivate]

you can call me immersed too because its pretty sad to see such neglect when it has the same name as the other server, not tricking me, but possibly tricking some other new schmuck to assume both servers are updated equally and fairly.


No.

We have a server owned by rogean that will not lift a finger for his own project in years, to what i can only assume is some pretty easy shit to fix.

That pet names thing is just proof of how broken things are on blue (hardly) and proves to me you have almost created a perfect pve server.

Now look at the problems with red and tell me rogean cares.

No.

[Littlegyno 9.0]

I'll be honest. If every single change like Red99 needs requires Rogean to implement, there's no reason to hope for it. No offense to Rogean, but he has other things in his life and P99 has taken a really really far backseat to everything else.

I think we need to be happy with what we got. Nothings going to change as far as I can see.

[Captivate]

Just curious why were being egged on like we are supposed to expect changes?

[Silent]

Yellow text not really interested in unless more pop, All it would serve is extra spam and even more spam when it goes raid vs raid pvp. We need to get population back, I do agree I saw the incline of players the last month, but now the last week and half its gone back to the shitters. I don't know if its just an off week or whatever but no one is logging in.

Better exp bonus added, Pvp exp loss removed. Wouldn't mind spells/AEs/attacks NOT hitting grouped members, however this is classic so I highly doubt this would ever happen. If there was no pvp exp loss, Shit would be a LOT more fun.

Some of us at 60 can't go pvp and kill a few people and die a few times then require 15-20 hours of exping to get a few kills worth of exp back. There would be less plugging, Less running, More killing overall just due to the fact YOU WONT LOSE EXP. I mean at low levels you barely lose any and its easily made up. but 55+ its quite annoying.

edit - I realize this is all about a 'classic' server, However as far as red goes when you have a average player base of 130 or something. That is NOT classic, Certain changes need to be made to accommodate that amount of players. Exp bonus boosted would be a great start for more players and encouraging more people to level up higher so its not just nihi vs azrael/force. New players to this server either have to start a solo class and spend endless amounts of time leveling up, then Decide if they want to start farming plat/gear to gear up their real character to pvp with or whatever.

[Clark]

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Prison? Nobody is that busy.

hb scuba deep sea diving immersed lol

[SamwiseRed]

Get crazy then.

I'm the lead content developer.

bahahaha owned

[Clark]

Rogean your people need you.

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[heartbrand]

And just like every other thread like this a couple of posts by someone with a purple name and poof they're gone. Rogean bro if you're out there, I don't know what it is you need to do, I think it's just say yes or something, but please find it in the bottom of your heart to do so. Your pal and donator, HB

[Faerie Blossom]

Remember all the crying for PvP attention back in the day?

Shit's classic.

[Stinkum]

you guys are just victims of the longest-con troll in history of eq

[Splorf22]

Or . . . and just throwing this out there . . . OR, he could give it to the EQ EMU community like was the original intent of the EQ EMU community.

And by "it", I mean the source. Because as much of an assclown as 99% of the PvP forums posters might be (grammar fail?), we would all be infinitely more involved in managing this as a project than Rogean.

And literally all that needs to happen is YT, no GM interaction on PvP, and exp bonus.

If root never landed, there would be zero point in a caster. Tired of hearing the same small group of half fags complaining that out of 5 casters and 2 pets spamming root for 5 minutes, 1 landed.

I think Null just didn't understand the classic resist system. The beauty of the classic system is that each spell is individually tuned.

Eye of Confusion: 50MR for immunity
Cinder Bolt: 61FR for immunity
Char: 112FR for immunity
Draught of Ice: 123FR for immunity
Fetter: 123MR for immunity
Cripple: 181MR for immunity
Recant Magic: 181MR for immunity
Forlorn Deeds: 197MR for immunity
Splurt: 281MR for immunity

So you can see that not only are the resists gradually scaling up (61FR for cinder bolt vs 112FR for Char) which accounts for the increase in gear/resist buffs, but also more important spells are easier to resist (see Fetter vs Cripple). And its not like casters couldn't land their spells: if you start with someone who is at 180MR and stack Malo/Tash (-80) with the Sullon Zek +50% bonus that person now has 60MR and fetter will land half the time or so. The most important change though is that wizards/mages/druids can't just walk up behind you and chain blast you with super efficient nukes for huge damage.

What's really funny is that the resist system is so imbalancing that the melee have to hit with every attack to kind of balance things.

[nilbog]

Rogean and I are supposed to chat this weekend. I'll reiterate these points so at least there will be a definitive yes or no, because the dev work isn't really much of anything.

Sirken and I voted yes on pvp text and for the removal of exp loss on pvp death. The way I see it if these are later unwanted they can be removed.

I think Null just didn't understand the classic resist system. The beauty of the classic system is that each spell is individually tuned.


The last conversation I had with Null I was asking him about classic spell resists. His response was that if everyone wanted it, he would work on it. He hasn't been around in forever, but with that being said, I vote yes on classic resists as well.

I will attempt to get this portion of the code public so we can see where to go from there.

[Num1RecommendedByDentists]

does classic resists include fixing mezzes, mage pets, song of highsun, denon's bereavement and tstaff/skean procs? skean should basically never land, tstaff should be a random duration; it's currently a static 18 seconds from what i've seen

there are also glitches with the debuff staying on after the actual stun wears off and you can't do certain things like cast spells

[nilbog]

does classic resists include fixing mage pets and tstaff/skean procs? skean should basically never land, tstaff should be a random duration; it's currently a static 18 seconds from what i've seen

Portions of it could be, yes. I haven't worked with it, but if there are underlying mechanics for root, stun, etc.. for pvp, then it would be part of it yes.

there are also glitches with the debuff staying on after the actual stun wears off and you can't do certain things like cast spellsThis would be a source bug which would also affect pve encounters. If there is a bug report already, please bump it. If not, create one with as many specifics as possible. Ideally with specific steps to reproduce.

[Faerie Blossom]

I can't believe Heartbrand crying about this actually worked. Don't let them treat you this way Nilbog, they'll just keep doing it wanting more and more :/

[heartbrand]

A+ Stuff Nilbog maybe there's hope for red after all

[nilbog]

The irony is I had scheduled the Rogean meeting this morning before this thread was created.

Comparing my pet name bug report to.. anything here was ridiculous enough to make me respond. I prefaced that thread as "Just so this is .. on the books:" assuming it would emphasize the lack of priority.

I let this thread roll through the day to see what people had to say. Amazing results.

[Faerie Blossom]

The irony is I had scheduled the Rogean meeting this morning before this thread was created.

Comparing my pet name bug report to.. anything here was ridiculous enough to make me respond. I prefaced that thread as "Just so this is .. on the books:" assuming it would emphasize the lack of priority.

I let this thread roll through the day to see what people had to say. Amazing results.

Well, we appreciate you putting in work for the server and project as a whole. Thank you for that, and I'm sorry you have to deal with so many self-entitled man-children here.

[heartbrand]

This message is hidden because Faerie Blossom is on your ignore list.

Thx Nilbog, was beginning to question whether or not I was gonna re-up my diamond status but this sold me.

[Littlegyno 9.0]

The irony is I had scheduled the Rogean meeting this morning before this thread was created.

Comparing my pet name bug report to.. anything here was ridiculous enough to make me respond. I prefaced that thread as "Just so this is .. on the books:" assuming it would emphasize the lack of priority.

I let this thread roll through the day to see what people had to say. Amazing results.

Great responses Nilbog. I've personally seen you do a ton of shit. I'm glad you're still active. It's a shame Rogean seems to have moved on but I hope he's having fun in other games/endevours.

[Splorf22]

Great responses Nilbog. I've personally seen you do a ton of shit. I'm glad you're still active. It's a shame Rogean seems to have moved on but I hope he's having fun in other games/endevours.

Its amazing to me how much time you've put into this, and yes I really appreciate it.

Also just to emphasize this but if the classic resist system goes in then melee will have to be nerfed back to normal hit rates and damage in PVP to keep things balanced. http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=105838

[Galacticus]

code changes still must go through Rogean because he is in charge of the source.



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The Source is believed to be the mainframe computing center for the servers. In the Project 1999 Red pvp server, The Source is described also as a location where features not classic that are no longer needed to operate within the pvp server are obligated to enter, whereupon they will be absorbed into the Project 1999 Red mainframe.

Rogean, a human and The One true peter griffin, is initially misled, as part of the Prophecy dictates that he utilized the velious code to reach The Source as part of his role in ending the " was this change intended" War. However, Rogean never reached the Architect Sirken, a high-level GM that either represented The Source or, as part of his role in preserving the Project 1999 red server, served to help The One true peter griffin to actually access The Source.

Later, Rogean is once again redirected by The Oracle nilbog to go to the actual location of The Source in the server's City. He succeeds in reaching the highly-defended city and meets with what was presumably another effective representative of the Source, the Null. There, Rogean succeeds in brokering a truce with the red server population in exchange for ridding the project 1999 red server of a rogue program, tomato_king, who not only threatened the integrity of the project 1999 red server, but the world of norath itself.

[Miller]

This box was close and I think even once or twice a month ago passed 200 pop. We had the wind at our backs, a nice exp bonus, lots of newbs leveling up, shit was great... but then something happened... shit got classic... REAL classic. EXP bonus was removed, pop plummetted, mage pets were machine gun rooting people with 200+ MR and Nilbog logged on to tell us shit is classic as fuck. PVP text aka yellow text was hinted, changes to exp loss hinted, month later nada. Resists still awful, communication still non-existent, pop dropping again. Blue transfers hinted, nada. Does any1 giev fuck?

I agree with this poast, it's difficult cause I just started here... Need to add classic drops back (manastone/guise espeically) and ability to bind at firepots and a nice xp bonus would make pop ++++ guranteed!

[Num1RecommendedByDentists]

Portions of it could be, yes. I haven't worked with it, but if there are underlying mechanics for root, stun, etc.. for pvp, then it would be part of it yes.

This would be a source bug which would also affect pve encounters. If there is a bug report already, please bump it. If not, create one with as many specifics as possible. Ideally with specific steps to reproduce.

as far as tstaff goes, it's easily reproduced by proccing a tstaff on someone who is already procced on

[Clark]

Well, we appreciate you putting in work for the server and project as a whole. Thank you for that, and I'm sorry you have to deal with so many self-entitled man-children here.

I don't play there atm, but I always like to see people get help where it's due.

[Tradesonred]

I agree with this poast, it's difficult cause I just started here... Need to add classic drops back (manastone/guise espeically) and ability to bind at firepots and a nice xp bonus would make pop ++++ guranteed!

Just removing xp loss in pvp will do alot for pop health im pretty sure. Now you can say, run a gang of 5 guys to a camp taken by 3 guys, boot the 3 guys, and instead of the 3 guys leaving the zone by default, if they choose they can try to jump the 5 guys when theyre in a weak situation.

I havent played in a long time and as soon as xp loss is removed ill probably play 6 hours straight with my lowbie wiz just fuckin around in pvp.

This will make the server tons more fun, makin xp grind faster isnt that important when you can offset it with large doses of pvp.

With fixed resists it will be even harder for a naked noob to kill a melee twink, but at least he wont lose xp when he gets WTF'd by one.

[Faerie Blossom]

Just removing xp loss in pvp will do alot for pop health im pretty sure. Now you can say, run a gang of 5 guys to a camp taken by 3 guys, boot the 3 guys, and instead of the 3 guys leaving the zone by default, if they choose they can try to jump the 5 guys when theyre in a weak situation.

I havent played in a long time and as soon as xp loss is removed ill probably play 6 hours straight with my lowbie wiz just fuckin around in pvp.

This will make the server tons more fun, makin xp grind faster isnt that important when you can offset it with large doses of pvp.

With fixed resists it will be even harder for a naked noob to kill a melee twink, but at least he wont lose xp when he gets WTF'd by one.

Now you're back to the bindrushing thing, and I can't help but see it as grief play. Clearly my idea of what constitutes acceptable behavior doesn't fly with the SZ-minded crowd we have here, but it would be nice to see players adopting some of that behavior. If bindrushing gets that bad it's just going to mean that corpse camping will become mandatory, and if players that hold themselves to higher standards will lose their camps to bindrushers. You'll never see me bindrushing I hope.

Why can't you all just LnS? It's good :)

[Snufz]

Ban faerie for continuous trolling in a non RNF thread imo.

[Tradesonred]

Now you're back to the bindrushing thing, and I can't help but see it as grief play. Clearly my idea of what constitutes acceptable behavior doesn't fly with the SZ-minded crowd we have here, but it would be nice to see players adopting some of that behavior. If bindrushing gets that bad it's just going to mean that corpse camping will become mandatory, and if players that hold themselves to higher standards will lose their camps to bindrushers. You'll never see me bindrushing I hope.

Why can't you all just LnS? It's good :)

Clearly not the new player she claims to be, theres probably a nihilum under that wig

[Faerie Blossom]

lol <3

[Galacticus]

These posts are all stupid. Devs gonna do what devs want to do.

Your discussions just show how little power you have and how much power they control.

This is their SIDE recreational project, not even the main one.

They are already working on their dream car, this server is the old car they have been bugged about to fix but is sitting there in the garage under the dusty tarp.

Honestly how much time do you spend on your SIDE recreational things?

If you play EQ as your main recreational hobby im guessing you prolly dont have time for much else.

The sad truth is that this is a monarchy and not a democracy and our king has more important things on his mind then the rubble of some pesants.

[Nihilist_santa]

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