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Vadd
05-01-2013, 10:28 AM
Allegedly:

Started here March 5th
Has "millions of plat"
Make his monies flippin in EC, although he just "kinda rips people off."
Only plays during work hours
Paid a b/o of 599k for Durison Neglectful-father
Has "no idea" the pillar of P99 DJ Durisad was.
Also selling old Sham acct: Swishahouse

Be wary of any business deals, may find yourself caught up in something you meant to be no part of!

Swish
05-01-2013, 10:35 AM
Allegedly:

Started here March 5th
Has "millions of plat"
Make his monies flippin in EC, although he just "kinda rips people off."
Only plays during work hours
Paid a b/o of 599k for Durison Neglectful-father
Has "no idea" the pillar of P99 DJ Durisad was.
Also selling old Sham acct: Swishahouse

Be wary of any business deals, may find yourself caught up in something you meant to be no part of!

Slightly offtopic but me and Swishahouse are two different people - always have been :p (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=22185)

So Swishahouse is Hungfuu? Or did Swishahouse sell up and Hungfuu just happened to be the next owner?

Rhambuk
05-01-2013, 10:37 AM
traded with him before, nothing major, seemed like a regular guy.

He bought a war with a bad rep
and is trying to sell a sham

lots of people buy and sell accounts.

some might find it shady but doesnt seem all that out of the ordinary by todays ec standard.

Swish
05-01-2013, 10:39 AM
Allegedly

Also be careful with that phrase Vadd... if you got legit screenies I wouldn't mind seeing them to watch out for the guy.

Doors
05-01-2013, 10:44 AM
The original swishahouse was cool as fuck.

Also yet another reason account selling should be done away with.

Rhambuk
05-01-2013, 10:45 AM
Also yet another reason account selling should be done away with.

What reason is that? someone that doesn't know the person is 'shaded out" by the activity?

from what hes posted nothing illegal or shady has been done, except the fact that hes dealing with a known shady account...

Ephirith
05-01-2013, 10:46 AM
This guy started about the time I started over, and at first he was just flipping cheap items. I made some money flipping items too, but I was also leveling, for about a week he was doing the same kind of items I was.

Fast forward about a month and this guy had a Blood Ember BP, Hand of the Reaper, Shiny Robe of the Underfoot, and over 100,000pp worth of stuff to sell.

In itself that's not incriminating nor does it even imply guilt... it's a well-known way to make money. I don't know why tunnel rats bother me because they aren't really doing anything wrong... but I just don't like them. I felt the same way about richgirl.

Aaron
05-01-2013, 10:49 AM
Allegedly:

Started here March 5th
Has "millions of plat"
Make his monies flippin in EC, although he just "kinda rips people off."
Only plays during work hours
Paid a b/o of 599k for Durison Neglectful-father
Has "no idea" the pillar of P99 DJ Durisad was.
Also selling old Sham acct: Swishahouse

Be wary of any business deals, may find yourself caught up in something you meant to be no part of!

Where are the quoted parts from? You have screenshots?

Who is the pillar of P99 DJ Durisad? I don't really know what that sentence means.

zanderklocke
05-01-2013, 10:49 AM
I got a degree in business, and I still don't think I could be a good tunnel rat. I'm too nice to buyers. I'm always like, "Hey, thanks for buying my item. Have a discount."

Swish
05-01-2013, 10:50 AM
I got a degree in business, and I still don't think I could be a good tunnel rat. I'm too nice to buyers. I'm always like, "Hey, thanks for buying my item. Have a discount."

Only way to get around that Zander is to price slightly higher than you're pricing... then the discount feels good for both parties ;)

Doors
05-01-2013, 10:51 AM
I've been flipping items in EC for years since I've came here. Unless you get lucky on a big item you can sit there for 6 months flipping mid tier shit and barely make anything.

Whenever I came back I sold him a peacebringer for 4k. He then immediately reauctioned it for 7k. Completely my fault for not checking but hes on a list now of people I just don't sell shit to anymore for any reason at all.

Swish
05-01-2013, 10:51 AM
The original swishahouse was cool as fuck.

Yeah we only met briefly but he seemed legit. People often ask me where he's got to, and I've no idea :(

SirAlvarex
05-01-2013, 10:53 AM
I've been flipping items in EC for years since I've came here. Unless you get lucky on a big item you can sit there for 6 months flipping mid tier shit and barely make anything.

Whenever I came back I sold him a peacebringer for 4k. He then immediately reauctioned it for 7k. Completely my fault for not checking but hes on a list now of people I just don't sell shit to anymore for any reason at all.

This. I've talked with "resellers" and it's almost impossible to turn a profit on the non-big money items. You might be able to flip a Fungi for a 10k profit, but most items will net you either 100-500pp, or you'll sell at a loss.

Yet these same people somehow end up making "enough money to buy 8 fungis" in a months time /boggle .

falkun
05-01-2013, 10:55 AM
This. I've talked with "resellers" and it's almost impossible to turn a profit on the non-big money items. You might be able to flip a Fungi for a 10k profit, but most items will net you either 100-500pp, or you'll sell at a loss.

Yet these same people somehow end up making "enough money to buy 8 fungis" in a months time /boggle .

They probably low-ball, and often get rebuffed. But occasionally they get the seller that's just "fuck it, i want to get the hell outa this zone, i'll take your lowball."

Swish
05-01-2013, 10:56 AM
The real money is flipping accounts I'd say, trying to skillup JC to profit is so 2011 :(

Vadd
05-01-2013, 10:56 AM
Where are the quoted parts from? You have screenshots?

Who is the pillar of P99 DJ Durisad? I don't really know what that sentence means.

Screens: Yes, receiving.

Off topic:

I once saw a video on YouTube by an aspiring "DJ David Deere," but I wasn't impressed.

Vexenu
05-01-2013, 11:44 AM
It doesn't take a genius to figure out that a certain three letters are what get most of these so-called "Pro EC traders" who pop out of nowhere started. It's easy to scalp a 5-10k profit on a Fungi or 20k on a CoF. Any idiot can do that: you just sit in the tunnel until you find a lazy, rich and desperate buyer. You aren't going to get rich with a month of tunneling starting with a low bankroll, though. Selling a few pairs of platinum fire wedding rings for 700 instead of 500 isn't going to make you an overnight millionaire. An SSB for 1.5k instead of 1k is a good start, but again, this is not big money.

It's ridiculously easy to make money in EC if you already have a huge bankroll, because you can afford 50k+ items then just charge an extra 5-10k on each. That strategy doesn't work with cheaper items, though, both for the fact that the absolute plat value is much lower, and the fact that there is much more selling competition and downward pressure on low & mid-range gear.

Vadd
05-01-2013, 12:00 PM
http://neglectfulfather.imgur.com/all/

Aaron
05-01-2013, 12:01 PM
OP delivered.

"I'm an economics guys."

Nice. :p

Rhambuk
05-01-2013, 12:02 PM
much better than just throwin it out there )

Swish
05-01-2013, 12:03 PM
OP delivered.

http://i.imgur.com/ogZBaEE.jpg

Too big a screenie to post on here but the TL;DR:-

Hungfuu/Durison is "rich irl".
Was given Swishahouse's account as he and his wife were about to be deployed - must have either sold his gear, or his gear AND the account on.

The fact that he said "old Euro account" at some point makes me wonder if he's also the owner of my old "Swish" account or got his wires crossed.

Swish
05-01-2013, 12:11 PM
599k for the Durison account... this is extremely fishy.

SirAlvarex
05-01-2013, 12:12 PM
That tell chain was an enjoyable read, especially once he found out about the post. It felt like I was watching an event unfold live!

Vadd
05-01-2013, 12:18 PM
That tell chain was an enjoyable read, especially once he found out about the post. It felt like I was watching an event unfold live!

"BET U FUK FAT BITCHES BRO!'

Vexenu
05-01-2013, 12:19 PM
Makes millions of pp in a month EC trading because he's "an economics guy".

Halfway through the conversation "suddenly remembers" that some random guy gave him his account which he liquidated.

Buys a VP geared 600k char whose reputation he is totally oblivious to and "doesn't intend to raid anything serious".

Verdict:

http://s21.postimg.org/gdp82sqfr/rmt.png

Stinkum
05-01-2013, 12:28 PM
Slightly offtopic but me and Swishahouse are two different people - always have been :p (http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=22185)

Oh dude. Trust me, we know. The original Swishahouse was an awesome dude.. You're just that dim guy who is way too immersed in ForumQuesting.

Swish
05-01-2013, 12:31 PM
Oh dude. Trust me, we know. The original Swishahouse was an awesome dude.. You're just that dim guy who is way too immersed in ForumQuesting.

My only EQ fix at the moment is on the forums, sorry that it troubles you so :(

I try to give advice where I can, help people out and have a good time here... rather than look to troll every thread.

Lyra
05-01-2013, 12:38 PM
My only EQ fix at the moment is on the forums, sorry that it troubles you so :(

I try to give advice where I can, help people out and have a good time here... rather than look to troll every thread.

Don't let him troll you Swish.

bubur
05-01-2013, 12:40 PM
is hungfuu = hungfoo?

if so i talked to him for several days last month and seemed like an ok dude. even offered to help me acquire items since we were both in 'the game' at the time of ec flipping

of course.. i have probably made about 20k lifetime out of several months ec flipping and i was shocked to see this dude transform from a rags lv 12'ish necro to a solid sk twink selling fungis, cof, hieros among other things

i guess the account he got explains it though

Swish
05-01-2013, 12:42 PM
Don't let him troll you Swish.

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n615/A_Ducky/I-aint-Even-mad.gif

bubur
05-01-2013, 12:44 PM
is hungfuu = hungfoo?

if so i talked to him for several days last month and seemed like a good dude. asked me a lot about living in indo (not while trying to sell/buy something).. even offered to help me acquire items since we were both in 'the game' at the time of ec flipping

of course.. i have probably made about 20k lifetime out of several months ec flipping and i was shocked to see this dude transform from a rags lv 12'ish necro to a solid sk twink selling fungis, cof, hieros among other things

i guess the account he got explains it though

other than that.. just a regular ec flipper. nothing to be afraid of. just talk him down now that you know he has cash, lol.

edit: anyway, the original owner of these accounts he got must have thought he was a pretty good dude too. just sayin

Stinkum
05-01-2013, 12:46 PM
I ain't even employed.

Just one glance at that signature shows the deep-sea water diving levels of immersion. Some people really need to take a step back from the computer.

alaiwy0503
05-01-2013, 01:32 PM
Let me walk through a scenario where you can easily make lots of money. This is a real scenario, you can see my posts if you want to see the type of trades that can occur if you look and trade correctly. I leveled an iksar monk to 26, decided I didn't want a monk at that time. Looked to trade/sell it. Somebody had a 30 rogue on red that they were letting rot and was thinking of coming to blue so we did a straight swap. Traded the rogue for a 50 red bard with a bad rep. Sold him for 10k red and transferred that 4:1 for 40k. That's 40k over a few days by watching the market and understanding where there is value. I then bought a necro with that 40k +20k I had and sold it for a fungi +20k a week later. Sold the fungi for 70k. So, now i've turned a 26 monk into 90k. It's possible folks. You just have to know how to evaluate commodities in a game and moving economy. And also get lucky.

Trading items/accounts etc is all about trading an asset that somebody else values more than you for an asset that you think is more valuable than they do. This doesn't always work out but if you can do that correctly you can make a LOT of plat on this server. I bought a gnome necro firepot bound for 190k and sold it for 250 one week later.

I don't know hungfuu from a hole in the ground. But you can make lots of plat if you make good decisions and trade the "commodities" the game has correctly.

And lets not assume that he couldn't have been gifted an account from a friend or something too. What if a friend had a level 50 account with a DE mask or something. There are a lot of ways that he could have come across the plat legitimately. Also a lot of ways it could be illegitimate as well but your "evidence" isn't anything except a statement that you don't think you could trade as well as he has. There are people that make lots of plat doing nothing but trading up.

DOPE
05-01-2013, 01:59 PM
OG Swishahouse wasn't from the UK.

Swish
05-01-2013, 02:40 PM
Let me walk through a scenario where you can easily make lots of money. This is a real scenario, you can see my posts if you want to see the type of trades that can occur if you look and trade correctly. I leveled an iksar monk to 26, decided I didn't want a monk at that time. Looked to trade/sell it. Somebody had a 30 rogue on red that they were letting rot and was thinking of coming to blue so we did a straight swap. Traded the rogue for a 50 red bard with a bad rep. Sold him for 10k red and transferred that 4:1 for 40k. That's 40k over a few days by watching the market and understanding where there is value. I then bought a necro with that 40k +20k I had and sold it for a fungi +20k a week later. Sold the fungi for 70k. So, now i've turned a 26 monk into 90k. It's possible folks. You just have to know how to evaluate commodities in a game and moving economy. And also get lucky.

Trading items/accounts etc is all about trading an asset that somebody else values more than you for an asset that you think is more valuable than they do. This doesn't always work out but if you can do that correctly you can make a LOT of plat on this server. I bought a gnome necro firepot bound for 190k and sold it for 250 one week later.

I don't know hungfuu from a hole in the ground. But you can make lots of plat if you make good decisions and trade the "commodities" the game has correctly.

And lets not assume that he couldn't have been gifted an account from a friend or something too. What if a friend had a level 50 account with a DE mask or something. There are a lot of ways that he could have come across the plat legitimately. Also a lot of ways it could be illegitimate as well but your "evidence" isn't anything except a statement that you don't think you could trade as well as he has. There are people that make lots of plat doing nothing but trading up.

Yep got to factor in the red/blue split and the economy balances. Red isn't some far off island that has no place in the blue market...even if you just log in for the /ooc its fun :)

Rhambuk
05-01-2013, 03:25 PM
Just one glance at that signature shows the deep-sea water diving levels of immersion. Some people really need to take a step back from the computer.

some people need to stop judging others when they have nfc

liveitup1216
05-01-2013, 03:45 PM
He's almost always in EC and I wouldn't doubt if its like two friends using the acct to play the EC, but I've also bought from and sold to him a few times. Decent dude and seems legit to me.

Gaffin Deeppockets
05-01-2013, 04:40 PM
Just one glance at that signature shows the deep-sea water diving levels of immersion. Some people really need to take a step back from the computer.

Every post I have seen you make is negativity, whats up your ass?

Skope
05-01-2013, 04:48 PM
OG Swishahouse wasn't from the UK.

He was a retiree from Florida. Errr, he was from Florida so he must've been a retiree.

webrunner5
05-01-2013, 05:01 PM
I have ported hungfuu and some of his alts around and he, she seemed like a very nice person and a good tipper. :) I have no problem with him or her. Never bought nothing form him. Out of my plat reach. I have WAY too many alts I piss it away on. :eek: My son used to make scary money in EC on original Live when it first started in 1999. Some people are damned good at it. :cool:

Thulack
05-01-2013, 05:46 PM
personally ive gone from 75k to 350k in my bank from 2 trades. Sometimes you get great deals and are lucky. Sometimes you see where the market is trending and you work it that way. There are plenty of ways to make money. On live when luclin hit my highest level toon was 28 and i had 2 million plat. All from buying and selling in EC. It's not my fault some people don't value their items the same way others do. But on that note there are plenty of "fishy" traders in EC.

Safon
05-01-2013, 06:19 PM
personally ive gone from 75k to 350k in my bank from 2 trades. Sometimes you get great deals and are lucky. Sometimes you see where the market is trending and you work it that way. There are plenty of ways to make money. On live when luclin hit my highest level toon was 28 and i had 2 million plat. All from buying and selling in EC. It's not my fault some people don't value their items the same way others do. But on that note there are plenty of "fishy" traders in EC.

Please elaborate on said fishy traders

Thulack
05-01-2013, 06:31 PM
Well some people that just pop out of no where with tons of plat buying things for more then market value strikes me as odd sometimes. But i have also seen people do just that that werent cheating. More so some of the fishiness that goes on between forums and contact in game. I rather not name names as i have contacted the right people about it but i'm all for getting rid of these people.

Vadd
05-01-2013, 06:45 PM
Well some people that just pop out of no where with tons of plat...

vulzol
05-01-2013, 06:46 PM
Has a site dedicated to listing sold characters/accounts been put up yet?

Kagatob
05-01-2013, 07:28 PM
personally ive gone from 75k to 350k in my bank from 2 trades. Sometimes you get great deals and are lucky. Sometimes you see where the market is trending and you work it that way. There are plenty of ways to make money. On live when luclin hit my highest level toon was 28 and i had 2 million plat. All from buying and selling in EC. It's not my fault some people don't value their items the same way others do. But on that note there are plenty of "fishy" traders in EC.

Calling bullshit here.

dscar23
05-01-2013, 07:34 PM
I made ~50k selling in EC for roughly a month and a half. It was from flipping gear and selling a 48 monk for like 15k. it's not too hard.

I know Hungfuu/Hungfoo and hes an okay guy, sometimes goes on power trips (like he did at the end of the SS logs) but he literally, and i mean LITERALLY sits in EC all day, like rarely ever actually levels and shit, so maybe the numbers are a little exaggerated but he definitely trades ALL DAY.

wingelefoot
05-01-2013, 07:34 PM
I got a degree in business, and I still don't think I could be a good tunnel rat. I'm too nice to buyers. I'm always like, "Hey, thanks for buying my item. Have a discount."

Being good at business and being good at sales are two different things, but you know that ;)

Kagatob
05-01-2013, 07:36 PM
Being good at business and being good at sales are two different things, but you know that ;)

As someone who's an amazing salesperson and a terrible businessman I can attest to this and the inverse both being true.

Rhambuk
05-01-2013, 07:41 PM
Well some people that just pop out of no where with tons of plat buying things for more then market value

Guilty. Sold my account for 1mill. Bought an account that hasnt been used in over a year and wanted to gear him bis. Trying to buy items over all the people looking to twink alts you have to go a little over sometimes.

joppykid
05-01-2013, 07:43 PM
Lol if those logs are from yesterday I sold those incarnadine boots to poffy for 7k lmfao

Swish
05-01-2013, 08:08 PM
yeah I enjoyed the Poffy mini conversation lol

Thulack
05-01-2013, 08:21 PM
Calling bullshit here.

Call it all you want. Some guy wanted a Fungi really bad and i had one and traded me a Cloak of Crystalline Waters for it. It was the first CoCW that was actually traded on the server as it was a few weeks after velious opened up. Apparently the guys bro gave it to him and was pissed he traded it for a fungi but i had already turned around and sold it for 500k within 2 hours. That netted me a 425k profit at that time. Sucks some people are stupid but someone has to profit off of it. That was the largest profit i ever made off a trade but it all added up. I would sit in EC for 4-5 hours every night and 12-18 hours on the weekend when i was in High school. Trust me it comes alot easier to some then others. It usually one of those "others" that calls bullshit to it too :)

Thulack
05-01-2013, 08:22 PM
Guilty. Sold my account for 1mill. Bought an account that hasnt been used in over a year and wanted to gear him bis. Trying to buy items over all the people looking to twink alts you have to go a little over sometimes.

If your gonna quote me atleast read the rest of the statement where i said i have seen it done by people who werent being fishy.

Misfitz138
05-01-2013, 08:53 PM
Hungfuu has done many transfer's for me. Most of them involving items ranging from 50k to 100k in price and has never done me wrong. One transfer involved a net worth of 250k and dude was legit.

Swish
05-01-2013, 09:10 PM
Hungfuu has done many transfer's for me. Most of them involving items ranging from 50k to 100k in price and has never done me wrong. One transfer involved a net worth of 250k and dude was legit.

Hmm, new(ish) trader account...doesn't normally post outside the EC forum...

http://www.gamesugar.net/media/images/2010/03/aprilfool.jpg

Misfitz138
05-01-2013, 09:16 PM
Hmm, new(ish) trader account...doesn't normally post outside the EC forum...

http://www.gamesugar.net/media/images/2010/03/aprilfool.jpg

I only use the forums to buy/sell. I don't really care what's said/done on the forums, just posting my encounters with Hungfuu. New account, but I've been here for 2 years now and quit on and off, make new account cause im horrible at remembering passwords. Got tons of forum accounts floating around that i wish i could remember

citizen1080
05-01-2013, 09:16 PM
personally ive gone from 75k to 350k in my bank from 2 trades. Sometimes you get great deals and are lucky. Sometimes you see where the market is trending and you work it that way. There are plenty of ways to make money. On live when luclin hit my highest level toon was 28 and i had 2 million plat. All from buying and selling in EC. It's not my fault some people don't value their items the same way others do. But on that note there are plenty of "fishy" traders in EC.

<---Fishy Trader

maximum
05-01-2013, 09:20 PM
The original swishahouse was cool as fuck.

Also yet another reason account selling should be done away with.

Gaffin Deeppockets
05-01-2013, 09:33 PM
Lol screenshots made this guy look like a total douchebag, everything he said sounded like a lie. Implying your rich irl just makes it look more like RMT. Maybe I'm wrong but cmon someone just gives you a account like that and does not know you other than a few sales in ec? Haha ok :p

senna
05-02-2013, 01:19 AM
Being a tunnel rat is an easy way to get burned out on EQ

FSR I always end up flipping money till I can pimp out a dream character, then when I finally have it I end up feeling bored.

Buying characters sucks too, they never feel like its really your toon. Sucks.

azxten
05-02-2013, 01:38 AM
Top 10 Auctioneers by Items

Seller Items Auctioned
* 8443
Hungfoo 6870
* 6706
* 4444
* 4192
* 3571
* 3406
* 2943
* 2624
* 2599

I've sent an uncensored list to the petition forum. When I started tracking auctions here I used an old log file and noticed Richgirl was the top auctioneer in terms of items auctioned (not unique, just total spam). It follows that any RMTers will be connected with these accounts as well.

Hope I can trigger a new ban wave.

Swish
05-02-2013, 05:12 AM
(If I joke about it, they might not ban me)

http://menversus.com/images/content/eJGSEzruIr2.jpg

webrunner5
05-02-2013, 07:49 AM
Looks like the Hammer is about to drop. Grab your ass. :eek::eek:

Rhambuk
05-02-2013, 07:49 AM
It follows that any RMTers will be connected with these accounts as well.


might be completely missing it but just because someone has a lot of auctions they must rmt? or are doing something shady?

Gadwen
05-02-2013, 08:20 AM
I don't know why so many people buy from this guy, I pretty much assume that 15-20% below what he is selling an item for is a fair price. I've waited it out on more than a few of the items he was selling that I wanted and ended up getting them within a day or two most of the time.

Lagaidh
05-02-2013, 08:35 AM
I've been flipping items in EC for years since I've came here. Unless you get lucky on a big item you can sit there for 6 months flipping mid tier shit and barely make anything.

Yeah. This is the way it is now. I haven't made any appreciable EC cash in a long while. Of course, the farming I relied on just isn't worthwhile for drops now. I have to be thankful I was able to gear myself and the missus. If I had to start today, the economy would be a lot harder on our progression as a duo and definitely on me when I bottom feed the darkblue con line.

It'll pick up again in Velious =)

Lagaidh
05-02-2013, 08:45 AM
Well some people that just pop out of no where with tons of plat buying things for more then market value strikes me as odd sometimes. But i have also seen people do just that that werent cheating. More so some of the fishiness that goes on between forums and contact in game. I rather not name names as i have contacted the right people about it but i'm all for getting rid of these people.

I may be naive, but I always saw that as a rich player gearing up another alt wholesale.

I pay attention for those folks because that's who buys my low end items =)

Unless you mean the /auc lines where someone is searching out about 5 BiS tradeable items...

Thulack
05-02-2013, 08:49 AM
I may be naive, but I always saw that as a rich player gearing up another alt wholesale.

I pay attention for those folks because that's who buys my low end items =)

Unless you mean the /auc lines where someone is searching out about 5 BiS tradeable items...

True and as i said it can be for real sometimes. Ive seen people /auction WTB a item and then turn around and sell it 10 mins later for same price. Hell i saw bouncerr one day buy a bunch of items for above market then hour or 2 later sell them for below market. He was on a alt at the time but knew it was him. You sit in EC long enough and pay attention there will be things that you see that make you scratch your head sometimes.

webrunner5
05-02-2013, 09:50 AM
The guys that do the Casino's in the tunnel can make some scary money. So some traders bring that to the table plat wise.

I don't EVER want to accuse someone of RMT. Hard to really prove unless they try to sell to you I guess for real life money. But having a shit pot of trades does sort of raise a red flag to me. Richgirl comes to mind.

gotrocks
05-02-2013, 10:17 AM
Swish crackin me up in this thread.

Also, ephi stated theres some serious cleanup going on as far as rmt'ers go. Hopefully that will take care of most of the bs (and dont be naive, theres lots of it right now)

Lagaidh
05-02-2013, 10:18 AM
Ive seen people /auction WTB a item and then turn around and sell it 10 mins later for same price.

I remember I did this once or twice in live. The first time, I landed those awesome Imbued Granite Spauldors (sp?) and learned quite quickly that dwarves need not apply...

You sit in EC long enough and pay attention there will be things that you see that make you scratch your head sometimes.

Tell me about it! I've spent a good chunk of my p99 time across from T1.

I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. During two-boxing witch hunts I'm always paranoid me and the missus are going to get a visit from a GM just to see if there are two of us at the keys. That alone makes me try and see "what else" may be going on.

But you sit there long enough... patterns emerge...

Lagaidh
05-02-2013, 10:20 AM
The guys that do the Casino's in the tunnel can make some scary money.

I've always wondered how well that works for the "casino owner". I always put them on ignore in EC due to the advertising spam. I've always assumed folks understood what a rip off they are. The house always wins. Especially with the EQ RNG running the show.

I've been tempted to see how many folks bite when my sales are super crappy.

Gaffin Deeppockets
05-02-2013, 10:46 AM
Shrug I won over 10k at the casino in EC and then quit. Some people dont know when to quit when their ahead, kinda like Vegas. Its a both way street playing them. Some are better odds like a lottery scratch off. I would not say the house always wins

Gadwen
05-02-2013, 11:19 AM
might be completely missing it but just because someone has a lot of auctions they must rmt? or are doing something shady?

Kinda wondering the same thing here, need some elaboration. Maybe he is working on the assumption that tunnel ratting is only useful up to a certain point, and then after that they are just collecting plat to RMT?

Macarena
05-02-2013, 11:22 AM
OP is an idiot, Hungfoo is legit/clean

xCry0x
05-02-2013, 11:26 AM
OP is an idiot, Hungfoo is legit/clean

Glad that is settled.

Nirgon
05-02-2013, 11:29 AM
Top 10 Auctioneers by Items

Seller Items Auctioned
* 8443
Hungfoo 6870
* 6706
* 4444
* 4192
* 3571
* 3406
* 2943
* 2624
* 2599

I've sent an uncensored list to the petition forum. When I started tracking auctions here I used an old log file and noticed Richgirl was the top auctioneer in terms of items auctioned (not unique, just total spam). It follows that any RMTers will be connected with these accounts as well.

Hope I can trigger a new ban wave.

I like this guy

Vadd
05-02-2013, 11:56 AM
OP is an idiot, Hungfoo is legit/clean

Busted!

Gaffin Deeppockets
05-02-2013, 11:59 AM
Busted!

EnnoiaII
05-02-2013, 01:29 PM
Who is the pillar of P99 DJ Durisad? I don't really know what that sentence means.

DJ DAVID DEERE!!!! 1s & 2s!!

Durison was a fuckshit scumbag who led Dark Ascension into the ground. Harbored a lot of cheaters and all around bad people (much like every other major guild on this server). There were a few good people, but the majority were scumfucks, and pretty stupid (ie, Mountaineer signing up on the IB forums to try to spy as 'Mountaineer').

chantersale
05-02-2013, 01:31 PM
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=107273

I bought a character from hungfuu and turned out it was a RMT character,

BUT I don't believe it was hungfuu's fault. AS you can see from the logs it was done in MARCH and hungfuu told me he bought the character only 2 weeks before that.

He seems like a legit guy in my mind but trading characters is a huge risk and everyone should know eventually if you do it enough like I have you will lose everything.

Swish
05-02-2013, 03:36 PM
...trading characters is a huge risk and everyone should know eventually if you do it enough like I have you will lose everything.

A good bet is to get the name of the character you're buying and type the name into a forum search to see if there's any dirt on him or associated with the account. I'm sure some people do this already and there's still no way of knowing but little steps can help.

Sounds like people are trying to launder characters following RMTs, I'd stay well away from big time EC account traders and new forum accounts myself.

TWDL_Prexus
05-02-2013, 03:50 PM
All I did was read the title of the post and then pressed reply with the most awesome reply ever

;)

Vadd
05-02-2013, 04:43 PM
Googling

DJ DAVID DEERE!!!

led me to this.... http://www.myspace.com/djdaviddeere/photos

Hungfoo
05-02-2013, 09:58 PM
OP is an idiot, Hungfoo is legit/clean

FUCKIN RIGHT IM CLEAN!

Swish
05-02-2013, 10:00 PM
FUCKIN RIGHT IM CLEAN!

oooh look, a new forum account...

gotrocks
05-02-2013, 11:50 PM
oooh look, a new forum account...

seems legit

Karafa
05-03-2013, 01:34 AM
This guy started about the time I started over, and at first he was just flipping cheap items. I made some money flipping items too, but I was also leveling, for about a week he was doing the same kind of items I was.

Fast forward about a month and this guy had a Blood Ember BP, Hand of the Reaper, Shiny Robe of the Underfoot, and over 100,000pp worth of stuff to sell.

In itself that's not incriminating nor does it even imply guilt... it's a well-known way to make money. I don't know why tunnel rats bother me because they aren't really doing anything wrong... but I just don't like them. I felt the same way about richgirl.

Richgirl was platlords in-game character until he moved on to just buying mass amounts of plat.

citizen1080
05-03-2013, 01:48 AM
Richgirl was one of 3 people on my ignore list on bob lol

August
05-03-2013, 06:53 PM
You're Bob? Cool! Thanks for transferring for me last night (Tomtee).

I always loved Bill Murray.

Rhambuk
05-03-2013, 06:56 PM
You're Bob?
I always loved Bill Murray.

Baby steps up the ec tunnel ramp.
Baby steps through the tunnel entrance.
Baby steps past T1.
Baby steps past T2.
Baby steps past T3.
Baby steps up to shady swashbuckler.

Vadd
05-04-2013, 04:09 PM
Suspected aliases:

Hungfoo (100%)
Sideswipe (90%)
Bonethugg (70%)
Barahir (70%)

% relevant to certainty.

Young detective....

Nerosys
05-04-2013, 04:42 PM
Guilty. Sold my account for 1mill. Bought an account that hasnt been used in over a year and wanted to gear him bis. Trying to buy items over all the people looking to twink alts you have to go a little over sometimes.

isin't this zuggsmash ?

Barahir
05-04-2013, 05:02 PM
Suspected aliases:

Hungfoo (100%)
Sideswipe (90%)
Bonethugg (70%)
Barahir (70%)

% relevant to certainty.

Young detective....

Lol you are an idiot or a troll. Not the best troll, but damn you'd make a great village idiot.


Anyways as to the on topic, I don't see any proof of anything that is shady. You can make a good amount of plat just buying and selling. It's not that hard people will sell cheap just to get rid of stuff and others will buy high just to get something quick.

Swishahouse
08-31-2013, 03:20 AM
Necroing this thread. I just got back and never sold anything to anyone. I want to know how the hell someone has my account, ruining my stellar rep!!!

susvain0362
08-31-2013, 03:28 AM
Hungfuu is the man. Dude hooked it up with like 1.5k in lowbie items, then he got me shield stalwart seasa and other nice items, rapier of Orion. Hungfuu is legit and so are his alts and other characters who's names I forget . He was the man tho

susvain0362
08-31-2013, 03:32 AM
Lol you are an idiot or a troll. Not the best troll, but damn you'd make a great village idiot.


Anyways as to the on topic, I don't see any proof of anything that is shady. You can make a good amount of plat just buying and selling. It's not that hard people will sell cheap just to get rid of stuff and others will buy high just to get something quick.

What? He isn't bonethugg. This dude is ponzy, who is the cousin of macarena irl. and he got rich by scamming platlord, now that I think about it maybe he is platlord? He also claimed to make a fortune with a ponzy scheme, which is ironic. I don't know what to believe now except the items he tossed me were legit

susvain0362
08-31-2013, 03:33 AM
His former char was ponzy? Or ponsy? Don't know how to spell it, just to pronounce it

Vadd
08-31-2013, 03:04 PM
Ponzi

quido
08-31-2013, 03:06 PM
What ever happened to Armani?

pasi
08-31-2013, 03:21 PM
What ever happened to Armani?

Banned for RMT on Red, iirc.

Visual
08-31-2013, 04:39 PM
http://24.media.tumblr.com/2ebd914a8b100e7380a4395883a538be/tumblr_mivyewT50Z1s28gj7o1_500.gif

Vadd
09-01-2013, 02:36 PM
Phil Anselmo