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bubur
04-25-2013, 12:25 AM
What would keep value better, cash or items? Let's assume Velious does not occur in that time.

This may seem like a no brainer in light of inflation, but I've seen the price of fungi go down some 20-30% in recent weeks.

Specifically, I have around 200k and I will have to take a 2 or 3 month hiatus and start playing in the middle of summer. In summer time are items losing value or is it generally a safe bet that inflation will prevail?

And if items are losing value in summer time, do high profile items (manastone, cloak of flames, etc) remain steady value/increase?

bubur
04-25-2013, 12:32 AM
utter speculation most welcome!

quido
04-25-2013, 12:33 AM
if you were smart you'd invest in fungi tunics right meow!

Ephirith
04-25-2013, 12:43 AM
Market has taken a shit compared to how it was a month or two ago (at least for the range of items I buy). It has followed a commensurate dip in population.

In the past, population decline has accompanied low prices. About 6-8 months ago the peak population was closer to 500~, and I was able to buy FBSS for 4k-6k, fungi tunics for 45k, sarnak battle shields as low as 10k, JBB 25kish, torpor could actually be found, jboots above 5k were rare, etc etc etc

I'm not sure it's a causal relationship, but I would be willing to bet if population dips in the next few months, prices will dip as well. I don't really know why.

All I know is, had I kept my 45k fungi tunic instead of given it away, I would have been a happy camper about 2 months ago.

if you were smart you'd invest in fungi tunics right meow!

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Pringles
04-25-2013, 12:45 AM
I would expect you could never go wrong investing in a manastone if you want one just to make money a few months down the road. ive only ever seen them increase in value, aside from a few other ultra rares, everything else fluctuates dramatically.

quido
04-25-2013, 12:50 AM
stone value seems pretty high vs lifetime lately though

fungi price undeniably going up

Triangle
04-25-2013, 01:07 AM
I have been spending some time at fungi the past 2 days and have had a crazy amount of robes, its almost like they changed it so robe is now common and tunic is rare (did this actually happen and i missed it??? the wiki says robe is common and tunic is rare now!?)

Coupled onto that, fungi will no longer be possible with 2 people, and will require a really solid group of 60's @ next patch.

Cippofra
04-25-2013, 01:32 AM
Solid group of 60's? Definitely not necessary.

Triangle
04-25-2013, 02:55 AM
We will see, but I bet when people have to camp king on his spawn, the least that will be required is 60 shammy, 59 enc, 55+ cleric, 60 tank, and two 57+ dps. Shrooms have incredible resists, and malo and tashani MIGHT give you a 40% chance of landing non-rapture mez or slow.

Nordenwatch
04-25-2013, 03:13 AM
2 monks and a sham could still do it np

Servellious
04-25-2013, 03:44 AM
if you were smart you'd invest in fungi tunics right meow!

he isnt usually right, but in this case he is.

Tecmos Deception
04-25-2013, 05:49 AM
It will definitely be interesting to see how the indirect aggro + nerfed invis pulls actually play out ingame.

Cecily
04-25-2013, 08:01 AM
I give it a month tops before people figure out how to single PH / King to tube room.

Sadre Spinegnawer
04-25-2013, 08:35 AM
gold coins. buy gold. I, personally, trust Goldline, the only gold company that pays me to sell, err, that I trust.

Swish
04-25-2013, 09:00 AM
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young speculators
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Swish
04-25-2013, 09:10 AM
http://i.imgur.com/m7sYUKQ.jpg

SirAlvarex
04-25-2013, 09:55 AM
The only thing that might depreciate a manastone is Velious releasing. That won't happen for awhile, so you could be pretty certain that it will maintain value.

Every other item will lower in price, unless the King camp really does become impossible to trio. Then you might see Fungi's jump back into the 75k range.

Swish
04-25-2013, 10:21 AM
There will be some slowdown... I can see the sun in the sky outside.

agdros
04-25-2013, 11:16 AM
Blue diamonds should be going down or getting close rock bottom prices soon.
Once Velious is out, thier value can only go up.

Buy a stack of BD's, and add it to your portfolio...look to spend between 30k to 40k for a stack. If they come back to the prices they were just a month ago, you can double your money.

jerok88
04-25-2013, 11:59 AM
What's going on next patch to make the king harder to kill?

xCry0x
04-25-2013, 12:09 PM
I think fungi prices would drop if anything because if it takes more than 2 people to camp it then the chances of a small select few people monopolizing the market for months at a time would go down as more random people will start to get them. It is not like they are going to drop less, they are just going to not all be owned by bigswurve =P. It will still be camped 24/7.

I would love to see the fungi camp actually involve killing the other mycnoids, it can be a good exp camp for high 50s not to mention they all have a chance to drop high level spells, cobalt bracer, green jade axe etc.

getsome
04-25-2013, 12:21 PM
We will see, but I bet when people have to camp king on his spawn, the least that will be required is 60 shammy, 59 enc, 55+ cleric, 60 tank, and two 57+ dps. Shrooms have incredible resists, and malo and tashani MIGHT give you a 40% chance of landing non-rapture mez or slow.

Daltheb and I were the first to duo king. He just split out the ph while timing roamers. We set up on the rock. It just took a few extra minutes to get him single.

SirAlvarex
04-25-2013, 12:53 PM
I think fungi prices would drop if anything because if it takes more than 2 people to camp it then the chances of a small select few people monopolizing the market for months at a time would go down as more random people will start to get them. It is not like they are going to drop less, they are just going to not all be owned by bigswurve =P. It will still be camped 24/7.

I would love to see the fungi camp actually involve killing the other mycnoids, it can be a good exp camp for high 50s not to mention they all have a chance to drop high level spells, cobalt bracer, green jade axe etc.

While a fair point, what it could mean is that

1. The king is killed slower than usual, so fewer tunics coming out of the camp. This is because you have to keep the camp cleared as opposed to just killing the king/placeholder
2. There are more people who will camp the king who want it for use, and not money, so there will be fewer on the market

But your point still stands, there could be more sellers who aren't trying to control the market. And it could be a good thing.

This of course is conjecture, as other posters have mentioned it might be doable as a duo still.

Raavak
04-25-2013, 02:36 PM
What's going on next patch to make the king harder to kill?Harder to pull single.
Invis pulling being fixed.

quido
04-25-2013, 02:44 PM
Daltheb and I were the first to duo king. He just split out the ph while timing roamers. We set up on the rock. It just took a few extra minutes to get him single.

FD ez mode - don't think it will be that easy now, though definitely doable

Swurve
04-27-2013, 01:41 AM
I only have one Fungi Tunic, dunno what you're talking about!