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Trojanman
04-22-2013, 05:39 PM
I'm not talking in the event of a server failure or any unforeseen catastrophe, I just mean will the server ever get a purposeful wipe?

I can already see without velious having been implemented that the server has gone through a few struggles that imbalanced its players by a large margin. I know that in some cases cheaters have gotten away with a lot up to this point and a lot of much appreciated effort has been put into putting a stop to it, but damage has been done.

To put it another way, how long can this server continue trying to capture a moment in time? I love the idea of p1999 and I know we all do, but there were not lvl 20s with rogue and clerics epics in that time as I remember. The economy of this game isn't designed to last 10 years without expansion packs or further growth, and there is no marketing done to reach out to new players except word of mouth. I just think a project like this only really works if it gets reset every 4 years or so.

This will surely be unpopular with all the regulars on this forum and all the hard-cores, but sometimes in the woods you need to light a fire so it can grow back better then ever. I've spent a great deal of time on this server and it would feel like a gutpunch to lose my characters, of course. But I would return feeling revitalized and better then ever.

Hit meh.

-Catherin-
04-22-2013, 05:44 PM
this thread again :p

Iznog
04-22-2013, 05:45 PM
I don't think I'd play on a server I know gets reset over and over. Why work so hard to get everything taken away.

Ele
04-22-2013, 05:46 PM
I don't. And let me be clear.. it'd be nice for most of the players and for me personally. It would allow low level zones to be re-explored, bugs previously undiscovered to be reported, and adds that initial rush feeling.

Resetting the server is a horrible idea, though. People do not play when they feel their time can be reset on a whim. Live servers don't do that and neither do we.

SirAlvarex
04-22-2013, 05:46 PM
If Catherin ever gets a Pre-Nerf Fungi Staff, then the time has come.

The time to start over shall begin.

The devs have already stated the server will never be wiped. They *might* start a new one waaaay down the road once Velious has been hammered to death. But that means the year 2020 would be the time to shoot for.

Pringles
04-22-2013, 05:47 PM
Seems like the better idea would be to start a new server as a progression server. That way, those that want to start over can, and those that are happy here the way things are dont have to start over.

lecompte
04-22-2013, 05:50 PM
... Agreed ... Eventually the server will boil down to the same 400 people and their alts -- that doesn't sound like a lot of fun. But I'm having fun in the moment and hope that Velious will shake things up enough to get another year out of the game.

Tiggles
04-22-2013, 05:55 PM
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=105797

Verenity
04-22-2013, 05:58 PM
The instant Catherin purchases a pre-nerf fungi staff, the server will end and be wiped clean, as was foretold in P99 lore.

Trojanman
04-22-2013, 05:59 PM
Seems like the better idea would be to start a new server as a progression server. That way, those that want to start over can, and those that are happy here the way things are dont have to start over.

Then you are just displacing people. Now all of a sudden you have 2 low pop servers rather then one medium.

joppykid
04-22-2013, 06:07 PM
http://24.media.tumblr.com/1c0573ec729a2cbbbb5e8beba6778050/tumblr_mla87sqRhq1rp2zn0o1_r1_250.gif
http://24.media.tumblr.com/061fa74ff53b9be4356d179ee24b66f3/tumblr_mla87sqRhq1rp2zn0o3_r1_250.gif

Trojanman
04-22-2013, 06:08 PM
Thanks for that nilbog post, Ele. Hes probably right, people might not want to continue playing if a wipe was imminent.

Path of Exile took an interesting approach. Whenever they make a major change to balance or fundamentals in a patch they "move" all existing characters to a legacy server that can forever continue to play (under the new patch). This way the main server technically starts fresh and is unaffected by the imbalances caused by previous exploits, and older players who liked where they were and didn't want to lose out on their time invested could continue without interruption.

Edit: Spelling

Kritimus
04-22-2013, 06:23 PM
I'm not talking in the event of a server failure or any unforeseen catastrophe, I just mean will the server ever get a purposeful wipe?

I can already see without velious having been implemented that the server has gone through a few struggles that imbalanced its players by a large margin. I know that in some cases cheaters have gotten away with a lot up to this point and a lot of much appreciated effort has been put into putting a stop to it, but damage has been done.

To put it another way, how long can this server continue trying to capture a moment in time? I love the idea of p1999 and I know we all do, but there were not lvl 20s with rogue and clerics epics in that time as I remember. The economy of this game isn't designed to last 10 years without expansion packs or further growth, and there is no marketing done to reach out to new players except word of mouth. I just think a project like this only really works if it gets reset every 4 years or so.

This will surely be unpopular with all the regulars on this forum and all the hard-cores, but sometimes in the woods you need to light a fire so it can grow back better then ever. I've spent a great deal of time on this server and it would feel like a gutpunch to lose my characters, of course. But I would return feeling revitalized and better then ever.

Hit meh.

question is stupid

-Catherin-
04-22-2013, 06:35 PM
The instant Catherin purchases a pre-nerf fungi staff, the server will end and be wiped clean, as was foretold in P99 lore.

If Catherin ever gets a Pre-Nerf Fungi Staff, then the time has come.

The time to start over shall begin.


There you go. so I suggest those of you that want a server wipe get me a pre nerf fungi staff

Ephirith
04-22-2013, 06:50 PM
I'm not talking in the event of a climate failure or any unforeseen catastrophe, I just mean will the world ever get a purposeful wipe?

I can already see without world peace having been implemented that the world has gone through a few struggles that imbalanced its inhabitants by a large margin. I know that in some cases criminals have gotten away with a lot up to this point and a lot of much appreciated effort has been put into putting a stop to it, but damage has been done.

To put it another way, how long can this species continue trying to capture the world's resources? I love the idea of luxury and I know we all do, but we were not leveling forests for roads and coal plants in the times I remember. The economy of this earth isn't designed to last 65 million years without extermination attacks or further plagues, and there is no marketing done to reach out to new parents except in China. I just think a world like this only really works if it gets reset every 65 million years or so.

This will surely be unpopular with all the rich bankers on this planet and all the young people, but sometimes in the woods you need to light a fire so it can grow back better then ever. I've spent a great deal of time on this earth and it would feel like a gutpunch to lose my life, of course. But I would return feeling revitalized and better then ever.

Hit meh.

-Catherin-
04-22-2013, 06:54 PM
If Catherin ever gets a Nuke, then the time has come.

The time to start over shall begin

harnold
04-22-2013, 06:54 PM
lol, the funny thing about this game is, you dont need any platinum to get any item you want (as long as it still drops), so all the economy complaints are laughable

Swish
04-22-2013, 07:01 PM
Must be in double figures for the times I've said it... you can't bring a new P99 server up until there's at LEAST 1500 nightly because you'll end up with 2 quiet servers. Nobody likes quiet servers...

SamwiseRed
04-22-2013, 07:03 PM
there would be a mass suicide if p99 wiped. to some, this game is their life.

Trojanman
04-22-2013, 07:15 PM
there would be a mass suicide if p99 wiped. to some, this game is their life.

Eh well, Darwin. Would any one of them be missed IRL anyway? :D

webrunner5
04-22-2013, 10:23 PM
Hell Nilbog, just pull the plug. Put us all out of our misery. :cool:

HeallunRumblebelly
04-22-2013, 10:38 PM
this thread again :p

WIPE IT CLEAN CATHERIN. BACK TO THE FBSS CAMP FOR YOUUU.

liveitup1216
04-22-2013, 11:13 PM
I don't think I'd play on a server I know gets reset over and over. Why work so hard to get everything taken away.

All opinions aside, I don't get how this argument is still valid.

Nor the "People do not play when they feel their time can be reset on a whim."

It's been 3 years. There's no "over and over", there's no whim. It'd be a one time huzzah its velious time or whatever server wipe.

Not a single wipe in 3 years and you all think if we had one wipe Rogean and Nilbog would just mash their faces on the reset button once a month? Let's put some more thought into posts.

Also, wtb more threads about velious and/or server wipes. :p

Doors
04-22-2013, 11:22 PM
Wipe would be beneficial. People will always play. Has been proven in the past.

Sirken
04-22-2013, 11:28 PM
I'm not talking in the event of a server failure or any unforeseen catastrophe, I just mean will the server ever get a purposeful wipe?

No.