I tried to like it... I really tried...advice?

[Genedin]

I was so excited upon hearing about proj1999 through a random reddit post a few months ago.

I've been lvl 31 for 2 months now and can't muster the will to log back on. I really got back into EQ when i found out about this server, played a lot and then really lost heart out when I figured out everyone had millions of plat and just solo'd to 60 with a fungi tunic.

Everything I missed about EQ...the community, keeping up your reputation to get groups and make friends, trying hard to get rare items, and end game content... oh man how disappointed was I when i heard that it is all dominated by one guild so I didnt really have the option to jump into a naggy raid and fulfill my nostalgia....though I did learn the term "poop socking' which is fantastic.

Really wishing there was a server like this with a good pop but wasn't so old that everyone has 5 lvl 60's with millions of plat so I could be on the same level as others or at least somewhere close.


Are there any other severs out like this? I'm pretty sure this is my only real option but I'd love to hear if there is.


Spare me the "don't like it leave" or "don't be a cry baby" posts. I'm fully aware of the sentiments of the poop sock posse that frequents this message board.

[Nordenwatch]

don't like it? leave. don't be a cry baby.

[quido]

If I believed everything every loser on this server ever said, I would quit too. Why quit before you even really try to get what you want?

[rsloans84]

Theres a new sleeper server post somewhere maybe that would make u happier? Im sure theres several lowly characters around

[falkun]

There's the sleeper (epicemu.com) and EQClassic (eqclassic.org). However, Sleeper is horribly un-classic and EQClassic isn't even in Alpha testing yet, so you'll have to wait. There is a Live option, but that goes up through PoP, and that is EQMac (eqmac.com). P99/R99 is not all trash, and there is lots to be done outside the raid scene. Do not be lazy and wait for groups, be proactive and make your own. You'd be amazed what you can accomplish if you put your mind to it.

[Genedin]

Well, it's funny you comment this because you are one of the reasons I started feeling this way Guido.

I duo'd with your Necro killing Aviaks. Very friendly btw not blaming you for anything.

However, it seemed to put me in the mindset that even if I grind out for the next few months and level to 60 I still won't be 1/50th as elite as most of the people playing this game due to the fact that I'm coming in so late. And what's the point of playing everquest if you cant show off a little.

When I started playing again I had such a nostalgia burst, my biggest motivation was leveling to 50 so I could kill Nafagen again. I get on these forums and read about how pretty much everything is perma-camped and there is really no room for casual players end game at all.

Hey, maybe I am mistaken but that's the perspective I have gained this far and it's holding me back.

I realize I do kind of sound like a bitch, but it is what it is.

[Honest]

If you don't enjoy it, don't play. Seems like there are a lot of you out there more concerned about items and lvl 60 as opposed to enjoying the game with other like minded people. A lot of you are more concerned about what you dont have, as opposed to enjoying the game. Get a guild, make some friends, have some laughs. Ive been playing a year and a half and don't have a lvl 60, or a fungi, or millions of plat, hell I dont even have thousands of plat at this time. But the journey has been fun.

[Honest]

don't like it? leave. don't be a cry baby.

oh, and well played.

[quido]

/shrug

Not everyone can be the 1% I guess =P if you need to be to be happy, I don't know what to tell ya!

I wasn't for a long time.

[Swish]

Nobody can level your characters for you. Groups in the 30s arent easy, just today someone else a few threads down was saying his monk couldn't get a group started.

Are you a healing class? We may have just killed 2 birds with one stone...could be the start of something awesome, PM the guy and find out when he plays, or do you want me to do that for you? :p

[quido]

Furthermore, it is true that there's a lot of people for too little content... you're probably never going to find a pickup Naggy raid during Kunark here... but there are plenty of quality guilds with good folks all of whom kill some stuff.

Give it a try bud =) you might like it

[eqravenprince]

I agree with the OP, It's a flaw in EQ design. Instancing would be one way to solve the problem with people competing for resources. I don't want to compete with people, if I wanted that, I would play on a PvP server. Twinking is fun, but equipment should scale down to the level a person is. For instance, on a Fungi tunic, at level 1 it shouldn't even regen, by level 10 maybe has a regen of 3, by level 20 it has a regen of 6, etc.

Unfortunately nothing will change here because the intent of this server is to be as close to classic as possible flaws and all. Good luck on finding a custom server that fixes some of EQ's flaws.

[Nordenwatch]

I started later than everyone else and felt exactly the same, my friend who had a 30 char gave me some flayed skin and told me to roll a human necromancer so i would be able to wear said flayed skin.

I farmed spectres, seafuries, HS, droga, crypt... anything i could for plat to gear my necro. Eventually I was able to buy a few things and get a monk geared up to camp king.

Everyone has to start somewhere. Reputation is still extremely important in this server even if people are twinked. and yes, some people are still going to be richer than you but this is going to be true for the vast vast vast majority of the server.

[rsloans84]

He aint lying

[Faerie Blossom]

I realize I do kind of sound like a bitch...

There's nothing "kind of" about it, you most definitely are acting like a bitch. If you want to show off a little like the other players, you'll have to put in the time just like they did. There are a ton of casual raid guilds on blue that accomplish impressive things, but you'll never make it there with them because you're too busy complaining about how you can't do it.

TMO/FE have a monopoly on a lot of things sure, but once Velious is released this will be alleviated somewhat. And if your goal is to kill Nagafen, then you should get the levels and then work on the community aspect of EQ you claim to miss so much. Get enough people interested in making it a reality, and then use your diplomatic skills to receive permission from the monopolies to attempt it. I think you'd be surprised what a little dedication, tact and patience can accomplish here.

[Odeseus]

I don't raid, only play a few hours a week and I'm having fun. Your only problem is your mindset. It isn't the server's fault your expectations are screwed up.

From your posts, you said you wanted to raid and more or less be the most awesomest ever, and seemed jealous of people who were already super awesome. But here's the thing, you have the exact same opportunities they did, regardless of when you started playing. People got to the top by playing, a ton. They joined one of the top raiding guilds (and there are normally at least 2 that push each other, even if one has a decided advantage from time to time) and got a bat phone. When not raiding, they farmed gear to sell. Rinse and repeat. Very simple.

Best part is, you too can do all of that, just like them! Get to 60 and join one of the (or the) raid guilds. Start raiding. Earn DKP (if that is even still used) and get all your super awesomest pixels. Spend time not raiding farming. There is nothing in this game that prevents you from doing this.

[Malphite]

It seems like starting now would be easier than in the beginning. Hand outs are always there, maybe not raw plat, but decent items that were better than shit alot of us had to get in the classic era. More casual players in better gear, so they don't care what yours is like eliminating the elitist only groups. Honestly, what are you crying about? You can't log in and have a fungi / hasted melee? Then no one can do anything for you, and this server isn't for you.

[azxten]

Being twinked isn't going to really make things that much more enjoyable. If anything once you've accumulated too much its hard to even get excited about playing anymore.

People who are super twinked have already leveled to 50+ on multiple characters. We all did our first grind, man up you bitch.

I honestly can't remember the last time I even looted anything in this game because I just don't care anymore. Be happy you can still get excited about an item dropping from some shitty dungeon.

Also someone just handed me an RBG the other day while I was playing an alt in MM. Around 60k just for being somewhere at the right time. People like me who don't rally care do stuff like this all the time.

Be cool and people will help you out. I enjoy giving level 20 Ogre Wars a nice item and then months later I see them in their 50s still using it.

[billpaleq]

I hate to tell you but this is how live was for me as well. One group will always be number 1. This is a game with competition. The reason I played was the connection to players and the enjoyment of setting goals and completing them.

[xCry0x]

I just started in Feb, didn't know a single person on the server and managed to level a cleric to 53 and counting just fine. Just finished my epic, am apping rapture.. in past 2 weeks i have done sky,fear,hate,hole,naggy,vox.

Leveling up was a ton of people on the same page as me, just found out about the server etc. A few twinks hear or there but every single one of them that wanted to actually group were more than happy to be social, answer questions etc. Level 30-40 suck because the grouping options are really few and far between but I made friends with a couple of DPS and ended up duoing with them. From day 1 I was going out of my way to make friends with monk twinks, rogue twinks, enchanters etc so I could duo/trio with them and that is eventually what I ended up doing. As you mentioned, EQ is about networking and it sounds like although you acknowledge that you failed to do it.

As far as rich people and twinks; I don't know what people are expecting, as soon as kunark came out and people started farming fungi's the monk twinks started coming out of the wood work on live. If someone has been playing since the server came out consistently of course they have a lot of money and/or multiple 60s. If twinking is your goal then level an account to level 50+, sell it for a fungi and start over, now you are a twinked level 1 without spending any time farming, congratulations.

I also think almost across the board there was always 1 uber guild who controlled everything unless you played on some sunshine and rainbows server; that is what made EQ EQ. If you have people on at 3am to kill the boss, you get the boss, if you don't then the chinese guild that does gets the boss.

[47shadesofgay]

Project 1999 reality check:

1. Will project 1999 recreate the way I feeled when I discovered EverQuest 14 years ago? no
2. Will the GMs on this server be like they were in 1999? no
3. Will soloing be the same it was in 1999? no
4. Will grouping be the same it was in 1999? no
5. Will raiding be the same it was in 1999? no
6. Will the other players on this server be like they were in 1999? no
7. Will the encounters be as close as possible to what they were in 1999? yes
8. Will project 1999 attempt to recreate the EverQuest game world as it was 14 years ago? yes
9. Will there be effort made to replicate things server side as close to they were 14 years ago? for the most part?


Is Project 1999 a time machine? no

Can I have fun on Project1999? Only way to find out is to try.

[Genedin]

Haha nah I'm not retarded. My first character back in classic was a warrior. I learned the hard way not to make a meele as your first character.

I made a necro. I dont expect anyone to level for me or to be the 1%. I just get annoyed when I try to get a group in the classic places I used to and there is a shaman with a fungi camping it solo..for example. Or try to buy a shitty item and it's inflated 1000% from what it probably should be worth due to the millions of platnium floating around. This is part of the server I understand that.

that is really why i was asking about a newer server. I dont want anyone to level for me/pwer lvl me/etc. I was just looking for a more balanced community. Thanks for the input.

[Done]

I started playing in February, first week of February to be exact. I'm level 57 now, I did very little soloing, and I feel I have geared myself up a pretty decent bit. I'm by no means rich, and I am just now starting to get "throw-away" plat. Up until now I was scraping every little bit I could to buy that next piece of gear.

Leveling a monk from scratch, and getting into groups, was a daunting task for me (as it seems Monk is everyone's favorite twink class and there's sooo many around). I still managed to get it done. It just takes dedication and the desire to do it. I've made a lot of good friends along the way, and a good number of acquaintances who I would call upon when I needed their specific role filled, or they would call on me.


This is a social game; unlike the MMOs of the current generation. You need to get out there, you need to make friends, and you need to do decent in the groups you do end up in.

No groups asking you to join? Okay...just do a / all LFG for your level range, grab who is there and go do something. You'd be surprised at the amazing things people can pull off with a less than "perfect" group make-up.


As far as raiding goes, and the current "monopoly" on raid content....all I can say is welcome to EverQuest? It's been like this since 1999. You wanna do a good amount of raiding? Cool! Get your ass some levels and app to one of the raiding guilds. If you're good and consistent I'm sure they'd take you.

[Nordenwatch]

made a necro.

trying to get a group.

why?

[Odeseus]

Sorry if I came off really mean, but this topic strikes close to home. I felt the EXACT same way when I first started P99. I wanted to be as uber as I was on live back in the early 2000s, when I was one of the top shaman on my server. I wanted to recapture that.

But that was a goal I would never achieve, not because of the game or server, but because of myself. Back when I was one of the best of the best, I was in high school in a small town that was frozen over 8 months out of the year. I had nothing else better to do than to play EQ for hours and hours a day.

10 years later, I have a job, a wife, a kid, live in a city with stuff to do and money to do it. All of that cuts into time that I had previously devoted to EQ. Now I had to ask myself, would I give up any of those for more EQ time? The answer for me was hell no.

It might be different for other people though. If I had REALLY wanted it, I could give up my job, divorce my wife, disown my son and move to the middle of nowhere again and devote all my time to being the most uber thing p99 had ever seen.

You have the same choice. It is completely up to you what you do.

[Genedin]

I haven't asked for items or power levels. I haven't asked to be the most elite.

My point was simply that coming back to EQ I expected to be able to enjoy end game content somewhat casually without having to poop sock.

For those telling me "bro you can be leet too just divorce your wife quit your job and stop having friends!" thanks, I realize if I dedicate my life to this I can do that.

I don't have to be super leet, that's not what I was getting at. Anyway, I know you guys love this server it's obvious from your predictably overly aggressive reactions that I expressly said were not necessary. I was really asking if there were any other options.

[Hitchens]

The nostalgia has worn off and it is time to play something else. This is the nature of emus.

[xCry0x]

My point was simply that coming back to EQ I expected to be able to enjoy end game content somewhat casually without having to poop sock.



What server did you play on that you DIDN'T have to poopsock for raid targets? That was how EQ worked back in 99 and it is how EQ works now.

It seriously sounds like you are confusing classic EQ with WoW and expecting to get something from the game that never existed before. I felt like this game was everything I remembered it being. Dying from trains, horrible corpse runs, lfg for hours, check, check, check. That is EQ.

[Done]

I haven't asked for items or power levels. I haven't asked to be the most elite.

My point was simply that coming back to EQ I expected to be able to enjoy end game content somewhat casually without having to poop sock.

For those telling me "bro you can be leet too just divorce your wife quit your job and stop having friends!" thanks, I realize if I dedicate my life to this I can do that.

I don't have to be super leet, that's not what I was getting at. Anyway, I know you guys love this server it's obvious from your predictably overly aggressive reactions that I expressly said were not necessary. I was really asking if there were any other options.


Are there options? Sure. The problem is, mostly, you're going to encounter the same thing anywhere else you encounter here. "Poop socking" has always been around, even since the game was first released. If you can't devote all of your free time to this game that's fine, but you better know that there's a shitload of people out there who can, and will, to be at the top and take the top spot on the server (whichever server that may be).

On live I was one of the top Enchanters in game, in the top raiding guild of my server. And I can honestly say I'm having more fun now than I did then. I honestly don't miss being in that top-tier.

Play the game to have fun with the actual game, not to relive what you had on live.

[Genedin]

Perhaps I played on a "rainbows and butterflies" server back in classic.

I played on tarrew-marr. The premier guild was "Engligtned Dark"

They were amazing, super elite, had the best items and spent all their time playing.

I had no illusions with my more casual play style I would never join that guild and that did not bother me.

On this same server I successfully organized and led a pick-up Naggy raid. How? Because the elite 1 or 2 guilds that ran the server didn't care about monopolizing ALL of the content. Also there was Velious by the time I was 50 so perhaps that will help in the future.

Thanks for all of the snide and immediately jumping to "this guy just wants to cry and get twinked" conclusions even though I never asked for a thing. That is classic.

[Briscoe]

So tired of these threads...

[xCry0x]

On this same server I successfully organized and led a pick-up Naggy raid. How? Because the elite 1 or 2 guilds that ran the server didn't care about monopolizing ALL of the content. Also there was Velious by the time I was 50 so perhaps that will help in the future.


End of thread.

[arosian]

So tired of these threads...

Is it really that hard to ignore them?

[raitheon]

Lawd. The man just wanted some direction. Then again; coming to these boards for advice is probably not the best first move. Hell; i got flamed for saying goodbye to a friend of mine who stopped playing.

I say stick with it. Ignore the trolls and flamers in this thread and do what you want to do. you CAN make it. it WILL be difficult. I think the overwhelming message presented by the other posters, sans self-felating 'must destroy whiny person' persona, is that you have to carve your own bit of nostalgia out of the game.

As for things being classic and not classic - who cares? This is the closest incarnation of EQ there is. You don't need to Pewpsok to be good; you just need to play and better yourself.

I find it funny that the prior post i was in people were talking about 'how can we increase the population of P99?' - I'm pretty sure shouting at a guy looking at advice and allowing new players read said thread probably isn't the best PR.

Hang in there champ, we're all in this together.

[Swish]

I played on tarrew-marr. The premier guild was "Engligtned Dark"

This is totally unrelated to the thread, but I'll never forget a guild on my WoW server called <Horde Intelligence> who managed to spell the guild name correctly had a recruit macro riddled with spelling mistakes.

Pointed it out. Still the same later, I don't think they're around anymore... it was a while ago.

That was it. I'm done.

[Genedin]

Raitheon.
I appreciate your response. I knew I was going to get flamed and really tried my best to be objective and state that I was not trying to bash the server at all as I have a lot of respect for what it is.

If there are no other options I do plan to stick with this, I was just asking. Apparently there are some other options but I didn't make this thread to promote them so I won't bring it up.

[Ephirith]

It's so god damn easy to work your way up on this server, I've quit and given away all my shit three fucking times. Sometimes I get tired of the game and I go off and do something else for a while, and I come back and start over fresh both because 1) I'm shamefully addicted and 2) I adore the journey.

Guess what, the server being flooded with plat and high end items also works to lower the barriers to entry. It's much easier to get a fungi tunic here than it was on live if you're savvy about making money. EQ does not hand you shit.

Also, I've done the journey when the server population was around 450 peak, and I've done it when it was closer to 900. Never once did I have considerable difficulty finding groups, even when I did it as a ranger. You make friends, you learn where to go to find people, and you don't have trouble.

It's perfectly fine if you don't like the way the server is, and you have some legitimate complaints, but if all you wanted to do was ask if there is a server offering more of a fresh start, you would have worded your post much differently... basically you did a pretty shit job at being objective.

[mike90]

Hard to sympathize with all the players complaining on here. It feels like they're playing on a different server or something. Since I've started its been a blast and most of the people are amazingly nice that I run into.

I'm only level 14, but I'm already an officer in a guild and have a bunch of friends, and I make new ones almost every time I log on. Thanks to donations from guildies, friends, but mostly complete strangers I have almost a complete set of gear and enough money to buy all my spells, which is a hell of a lot more then my 1st character on live had.

Is my gear elite? Of course not. do i see people with waaaaaay better gear then me every day? You better believe it. but none of that stops me from enjoying the game. Who cares what other people have, and do you think they were just handed that fungi? Why are so many people so upset that people that invested a lot more time and energy at something then they have done have more to show for it? Isn't that how its supposed to work? Just do you and stop worrying about everyone else.

[mike90]

Oh and another thing. all the people complaining about inflation are nutso. Are high end items really expensive? Hell yes, but they were on classic too and most of the complainers are NOT really high level. Low level equipment is dirt cheap. I managed to equip myself and 2 friends for under 500 plat. If you really cant buy gear you need to learn how to farm or learn how to trade and do research on prices to get the best deals.

If you can't manage to do ANY of that then its on you. There's a wiki with prices for just about ever item in the game for gods sake which sure wasn't around in classic.

[Genedin]

im glad you are enjoying it, i hope you continue to do so even through end game.

[Anesthia]

Genedin: ignore the forum PvP and play the game. If I let the forums guide my impressions of the server, I would never log on. If you play the actual server and remember that EQ is a game of social networking, you'll find friends to group with, relive some old adventures, and find that some people are very different in-game than on the forums.

[mike90]

I thought you were level 31........

[odiecat99]

when I first seen the subject I thought you meant anal sex. further investigation rendered my theory false.

[odiecat99]

There's the sleeper (epicemu.com) and EQClassic (eqclassic.org). However, Sleeper is horribly un-classic and EQClassic isn't even in Alpha testing yet, so you'll have to wait. There is a Live option, but that goes up through PoP, and that is EQMac (eqmac.com). P99/R99 is not all trash, and there is lots to be done outside the raid scene. Do not be lazy and wait for groups, be proactive and make your own. You'd be amazed what you can accomplish if you put your mind to it.

well said mate

[fuark]

Perhaps I played on a "rainbows and butterflies" server back in classic.

I played on tarrew-marr. The premier guild was "Engligtned Dark"

They were amazing, super elite, had the best items and spent all their time playing.

I had no illusions with my more casual play style I would never join that guild and that did not bother me.

On this same server I successfully organized and led a pick-up Naggy raid. How? Because the elite 1 or 2 guilds that ran the server didn't care about monopolizing ALL of the content. Also there was Velious by the time I was 50 so perhaps that will help in the future.

Thanks for all of the snide and immediately jumping to "this guy just wants to cry and get twinked" conclusions even though I never asked for a thing. That is classic.

I agree with most of the posts on here that the server isn't that hard to get established on, but I had to comment on this post. I've come to realize that Tarew Marr was indeed a rainbow and butterflies server. I played a druid there to 60 from release to beginning of Luclin. Enlightened Dark was the top guild on the server, but there was a plethora of lesser guilds that all did very well, and were able to get raid targets without the countless hours of poopsocking that goes on in P99. I think it helped that ED was more of a quality over quantity guild.

Sanctus Arcanum
Minions of Kaer Barr
Black Company
Clan of Shadows...

If you were in any of these guilds and more you were going to be doing Trak/VS/dragons in Kunark.

I was also part of numerous pick up Naggy/Vox raids on TM. Fun times.

[Stormhowl]

I've come to realize that Tarew Marr was indeed a rainbow and butterflies server. I played a druid there to 60 from release to beginning of Luclin. Enlightened Dark was the top guild on the server, but there was a plethora of lesser guilds that all did very well, and were able to get raid targets without the countless hours of poopsocking that goes on in P99. I think it helped that ED was more of a quality over quantity guild.

Tarew Marr was great to play on. I wonder why P99 has such a violently volatile end-game compared to TM? It worked wonderfully there, and there were plenty of guilds doing stuff. I don't recall ever encountering people that were overly upset about a missed raid or not getting something. Hell, I never had a problem getting my fear raid to complete my Shaman epic, and there was never any major competition for those golems. So what gives with this server? :(

Inb4 someone makes some remark about "Carebear Casuals wanting free loot / free dragons" (yes I'm aware that this will just instigate someone)

[Cippofra]

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[Vermicelli]

The most fun I have when I play is savoring the delicious morsel that is being a gnome enchanter =) I have been in a big raiding guild before and got some tasty pieces of gear, but that scene is not for me.

[webrunner5]

Hell a Necro can't even wear a Fungi or need one. WTF. :confused: Like you need a Haste item also??

[Gadwen]

And what's the point of playing everquest if you cant show off a little.

Do you play a monk?

[Heavydrop]

Keep at it. This is EQ. Its supposed to be hard.
That's what makes it good.

[Kieu]

You could get a group in FM doing the giant fort. I found that to be the easiest place to get a group when MM was mega packed. Could also solo guards in HHK. There are a lot of options, you just have to be ready to travel, and be patient. Nothing in this game is fast.

Besides level 1.

[Genedin]

Haha why are people thinking I want a haste item and fungi tunic?

Anyway thanks for the constructive criticism from those of you who offered.

I find it most interesting that other players from Tarrew-Marr had a similar experience and see the stark contrast between the communities.

I understand the factors that lead to these differences but didn't realize that other servers in classic were more like this one.

I'm going to solider on hope to see you in game.

/w Gorthold if you want to bitch at me in real-time :)

[LizardNecro]

epicemu.com might be what you are looking for. Just started, no twinks, and there's raid tokens so the raid content won't be blocked.

[Safon]

epicemu.com might be what you are looking for. Just started, no twinks, and there's raid tokens so the raid content won't be blocked.

That server is for boxers and the banned of P99, hell it was founded by a banned cheater

[Kope]

Well, it's funny you comment this because you are one of the reasons I started feeling this way Guido.

I duo'd with your Necro killing Aviaks. Very friendly btw not blaming you for anything.

However, it seemed to put me in the mindset that even if I grind out for the next few months and level to 60 I still won't be 1/50th as elite as most of the people playing this game due to the fact that I'm coming in so late. And what's the point of playing everquest if you cant show off a little.

When I started playing again I had such a nostalgia burst, my biggest motivation was leveling to 50 so I could kill Nafagen again. I get on these forums and read about how pretty much everything is perma-camped and there is really no room for casual players end game at all.

Hey, maybe I am mistaken but that's the perspective I have gained this far and it's holding me back.

I realize I do kind of sound like a bitch, but it is what it is.

It's truly up to you as to what's important in this 14 year old game. If you want to be the 1% you need to put the hours in (just like on live). If you want to enjoy the casual scene, you can do that without putting those hours in but you won't be "the uber 1%."

I have a couple of main perspectives you should take into account:

1) Everyone came to this server to do their own thing, relive the EQ experience and in one way or another do things they weren't able to do. For a lot of people this means raiding high end stuff, so yea the end raids are overcamped right now.

2) No one knows when velious will come out, but Kunark has been out for...2...3? years now? When on live it was out for like 8 months? Don't worry about "how far you're behind" or "how uber everyone else is." You can get incredibly uber gear compared to what you had on live incredibly easy. Because this server is so weighted towards the high end everything else is next to worthless for people. Comparatively every character I have is 200X more geared than I was on live.

Enjoy the game for what it is imo, but play it how you want. Don't worry about what every other person is doing, get groups and enjoy dungeons.

I make new characters and yea I gear them out pretty well but I only do that to go enjoy the dungeons with people again. I know others do as well (may not be a majority but just keep grouping and you'll find a good group of like-minded individuals.

[Tecmos Deception]

No one knows when velious will come out

Sirken said Velious beta should be this year.

[webrunner5]

Sirken said Velious beta should be this year.

I think someone said the same thing last year. :rolleyes: As u can see from my picture I am pretty old. I would like to live long enough to see it happen.

[quido]

Hit me up if you wanna team up with my necro again sometime! I really hope his extreme twinkieness didn't discourage you... most people don't have 3 million plat twinks =P

[Barkingturtle]

Hit me up if you wanna team up with my necro again sometime! I really hope his extreme twinkieness didn't discourage you... most people don't have 3 million plat twinks =P

How's it make you feel to know someone grouped with you and then was like, "Damn, if I want to be that cool I'm gonna need to neglect all of my real-world responsibilities"? I am reminded of that mantra from TRAINSPOTTING: "Choose Life".

Not meaning to offend; genuinely curious.

[stormlord]

Not all players can adjust how they play if a game doesn't fit what their preferences are. Moreso, for some the nostalgia doesn't work. The OP is the the type of player that wants to have access to everything in the game, but he's older now and has less time. So he's looking for a game that requires less time to reach maximum.

Most modern games allow you to see everything in the game by having easy/medium/hard versions of the content. This way a casual can go from the bottom to the top and see most everything. Of course, for a person that wants to be elite, this means repeating content in the harder difficulties rather than having exclusive content. Raids aren't new zones so much as they're just more difficult versions of what they've already done.

I'd suggest to find a game that requires less time or to find a game that offers the above.

The way I played p1999 was not to level past 15-20. I never twinekd them. I did this to avoid the grind and to relax. Corpse runs are small in the lower levels and the deaht experience is small too. Plus, you have a strong tie to your homecity. I made many alts. I had lots of fun. Did quests I had never done b4. It felt like learning more about an old friend. Tried to accommodate new players by grouping and offering information.

Unlike many others, I think this is hte worst time to play. I first played in 2010 when the mudflation was smaller. It's actually worse now because of the expansion and the patches that're meant to emulate live.

Ya, there's more content now with kunark (and perhaps velious), but more and more is mudflated.

[Safon]

I think someone said the same thing last year. :rolleyes: As u can see from my picture I am pretty old. I would like to live long enough to see it happen.

Shuddered a bit at the prospect of ending up like you

[Lyra]

How's it make you feel to know someone grouped with you and then was like, "Damn, if I want to be that cool I'm gonna need to neglect all of my real-world responsibilities"? I am reminded of that mantra from TRAINSPOTTING: "Choose Life".

Not meaning to offend; genuinely curious.

Not meaning to offend? Sounds pretty judgmental to me.

Live life the way you chose. You can decide on your death bed if you won or lost.

"I wish I had been working 10 hours days instead of playing Everquest. I could have had more STUFF"

[stormlord]

Not meaning to offend? Sounds pretty judgmental to me.

Live life the way you chose. You can decide on your death bed if you won or lost.

"I wish I had been working 10 hours days instead of playing Everquest. I could have had more STUFF"
And lived longer. Anybody sitting more than 45 minutes is harming their body.

This is proven fact. People who play video games are limiting their lifespan.

(no being sarcastic or making a joke... being serious... this is common medical knowledge)

Labor-like work is actually one of the best things you can do for your body. Ironically, many people have jobs where they end up sitting. So they get more stuff, but they don't get a longer life necessarily.

I'm not advocating staying single and working less so you can play games. I'm just saying that if a person chooses to do that then there're consequences to that choice.

Of course, no matter what anybody does, they're going to die. So you can only pick the poison that suites you as a person. Still, how we're remembered after we die is probably the most important thing that occurs to us as we age. Does a person want to be remembered as an extreme gamer? Or as an extreme gamer that just so happened to give all his extra earnings to charity? Or a man that had a couple kids and spent his extra money on their education and had fun by being creative? Most people do not view video gaming as a good thing to remember about someone. I know that when I'm on my deathbed, I don't want to be remembered for scoring 151 successive kills without dying in Quake 10. I want to be remembered for something meaningful and real.

[quido]

How's it make you feel to know someone grouped with you and then was like, "Damn, if I want to be that cool I'm gonna need to neglect all of my real-world responsibilities"? I am reminded of that mantra from TRAINSPOTTING: "Choose Life".

Not meaning to offend; genuinely curious.

What makes you think I've neglected anything? Such a statement is a really dim-witted assumption.

[Safon]

What makes you think I've neglected anything? Such a statement is a really dim-witted assumption.

Out of genuine non hostile curiosity, how many hours would you say you've put into P99 across all your characters

[quido]

over the course of 3.5 years, quite a few

how many of those are good industrious hours of playing and how many are semi-afk doing homework, doing my jobs, and watching movies and jerking off? I have no idea

[Lyra]

how we're remembered after we die is probably the most important thing that occurs to us as we age.

Is it now? Such wisdom....

If that is important to you, feel free to live your life that way.

I wonder how much you can tell me about your great grandparent....

[Barkingturtle]

What makes you think I've neglected anything? Such a statement is a really dim-witted assumption.

Honestly, I didn't mean to insinuate anything. Was just wondering what you thought of someone feeling so discouraged by your wealth--the fruit of extensive effort and dedication--that they threw up their hands and said, "I yield. I am not willing or able to commit myself to this degree."

Reading about it gave me thoughtful pause, and for a moment I considered casting off my own fungi--but then I was all like, "Newbs can suck it. I'm rich, bitch".

[sambal]

Shuddered a bit at the prospect of ending up like you

That's a horrible thing to say.

[Safon]

That's a horrible thing to say.

Meh, he chirped me in another thread recently. Means he's fair game

[Genedin]

Interesting to see where this thread has gone.

As far as the comment towards Guido about me playing with him and thinking I had to give up my life to be like that. My point was, even if I did give up my life I still wouldnt be able to do so because of the sheer time the server has sat stagnant and allowed people who have been playing so long to reach such a level.

Now for 1. I don't feel the need to have 1 million plat and a pre-nerf fungi staff to enjoy the game, but having to beg for permission from other players to experience content that I rejoined EQ to experience is not something that I am interested in. If I wanted that I'd go play EVE.

Playing with Guido's alt was very fun and kept me playing so don't use my post as a platform to bash other people.

Ultimately, I think that this server exists at all is awesome.
EQ was and will be my favorite game of all time, even if I no longer play it, and I'm glad there are so many others still able to enjoy it in these times of easy-mode mmo's that always seem so promising and fun in the beginning and always leave you feeling so hollow after only a short time.

[doraf]

Come back when Velious is released. You're the right level to start grinding there and there will be a shit ton of new players and old players returning. There will be a shit ton of new gear around then as well. Even the most uber players today won't be that uber to velious standards.

You can reach the level you want then I'm sure.

[quido]

Honestly, I didn't mean to insinuate anything. Was just wondering what you thought of someone feeling so discouraged by your wealth--the fruit of extensive effort and dedication--that they threw up their hands and said, "I yield. I am not willing or able to commit myself to this degree."

Reading about it gave me thoughtful pause, and for a moment I considered casting off my own fungi--but then I was all like, "Newbs can suck it. I'm rich, bitch".

I dunno man, wealth begets wealths. I was lucky and started early and at least was always comfortable. Anyone can farm fungis as well as I did if they really want to, well at least until the next patch!

[Safon]

What's coming next patch?

[Barkingturtle]

Fungis turn no-drop.

[Safon]

Lies

[Barkingturtle]

My point was, even if I did give up my life I still wouldnt be able to do so because of the sheer time the server has sat stagnant and allowed people who have been playing so long to reach such a level.

Now for 1. I don't feel the need to have 1 million plat and a pre-nerf fungi staff to enjoy the game, but having to beg for permission from other players to experience content that I rejoined EQ to experience is not something that I am interested in.

So is your problem more that the raid-scene is crap?

Because I think it pretty much always has been. Arriving earlier wouldn't have helped.

Guess I just inferred from your post that you were more-or-less discouraged by what you perceived to be the extraordinary wealth of the established elite and the impossibility ever reaching that echelon yourself, but if it's just content you crave then all you have to do is conform to one of a few guilds. Which again: would have been the case even if you joined p99 on Day One.

[Stormhowl]

beg for permission to experience content......

did you ever play live there was always a top guild(s) monopolizing content until it all became instanced

not sure if OP is srs or dum

not sure if trolling or just ignorant.

As mentioned earlier, Tarew Marr had a, as it was put, "rainbows and butterflies" mentality. There was no monopolization to the extent that everyone insinuates was the norm on live.

[webrunner5]

Shuddered a bit at the prospect of ending up like you

I can tell you time goes fast as hell. Enjoy it day by day because you never know. It is starting to get scary for me. :eek:

[Noselacri]

I was so excited upon hearing about proj1999 through a random reddit post a few months ago.

I've been lvl 31 for 2 months now and can't muster the will to log back on. I really got back into EQ when i found out about this server, played a lot and then really lost heart out when I figured out everyone had millions of plat and just solo'd to 60 with a fungi tunic.

Everything I missed about EQ...the community, keeping up your reputation to get groups and make friends, trying hard to get rare items, and end game content... oh man how disappointed was I when i heard that it is all dominated by one guild so I didnt really have the option to jump into a naggy raid and fulfill my nostalgia....though I did learn the term "poop socking' which is fantastic.

Really wishing there was a server like this with a good pop but wasn't so old that everyone has 5 lvl 60's with millions of plat so I could be on the same level as others or at least somewhere close.


Are there any other severs out like this? I'm pretty sure this is my only real option but I'd love to hear if there is.


Spare me the "don't like it leave" or "don't be a cry baby" posts. I'm fully aware of the sentiments of the poop sock posse that frequents this message board.

That's what P99 is. Nothing new has happened for 2+ years, and the endgame has always been completely monopolized by one guild or another to such an extent that it has caused enough drama to make generations of GMs quit. P99 was in a pretty good place before Kunark, but eventually it just fell apart and turned into a server of two noteworthy guilds plus a lot of solo classes and twinks. People await Velious like it'll be some kind of saviour, but anyone with a clue will realize that that expansion will be the ultimate death sentence for this server since Velious content is the first great divide between poopsockers and the rest. It's when Everquest turns into a game where you are nothing if you don't raid, and this server's raiding environment has always been absolutely rotten to the core.

[Safon]

That's what P99 is. Nothing new has happened for 2+ years, and the endgame has always been completely monopolized by one guild or another to such an extent that it has caused enough drama to make generations of GMs quit. P99 was in a pretty good place before Kunark, but eventually it just fell apart and turned into a server of two noteworthy guilds plus a lot of solo classes and twinks. People await Velious like it'll be some kind of saviour, but anyone with a clue will realize that that expansion will be the ultimate death sentence for this server since Velious content is the first great divide between poopsockers and the rest. It's when Everquest turns into a game where you are nothing if you don't raid, and this server's raiding environment has always been absolutely rotten to the core.

Please kill yourself and spare the rest of us your inconceivable stupidity

[Stormhowl]

Please kill yourself and spare the rest of us your inconceivable stupidity

So yeah, that's a perfectly natural and acceptable reaction (outside of RNF), huh?

If you don't like what he has to say and can't be bothered to respond to it appropriately, why say anything at all? You'd at least spare us the headache of you flaming someone for their opinion on a public message board where people come to share their opinions and discuss things.

Besides, it's not as if he honestly doesn't have a point.