Alternate Ruleset Server idea

[eqravenprince]

I have an alternate ruleset server idea. I assume I am not the only one who enjoys to play the game straight up. I don't mind people who solo, but some of the solo abilities are overpowered. I don't mind people who twink, but some of it is overpowered, fungi tunic and any high level weapons for melee chars. I don't mind someone helping a fellow player out with some buffs and heals, but the powerleveling that goes on is ridiculous. I don't mind a guild being all bad ass and can take down anything in the game, but it should be damn near impossible for them to kill all of them before other guilds can get to them. So with that being said, I thought up what my ideal alternate ruleset server would be.

Run speed, snare, fear, root, charm, teleportation spells and pets removed. Add level limits to items. You can only get buffs up to 1.5 times your level. Somehow remove Feign Death and any other overpowered powerleveling that I haven't thought of. This is optional, but I liked having no common language like on the FV server back in the day.

I think that would accomplish most of what I am wanting in a server. No more ridiculous powerleveling and twinking. No more overpowered solo abilities which I think would encourage grouping more. A single guild will not be able to dominate all raid mobs without teleportation which I think would make the end game more enjoyable for all guilds. But what I fear is that most people do not enjoy playing a game straight up, they want those advantages to breeze through the levels.

[Kieu]

Sounds like you need to make a private server, as this is completely absurd in my eyes. You're taking away what the game has to offer players.

[Tecmos Deception]

I think that would accomplish most of what I am wanting in a server.

Yep. Sounds like you should start your own hobby server. I'm sure it'll be a hit.

[eqravenprince]

Sounds like you need to make a private server, as this is completely absurd in my eyes. You're taking away what the game has to offer players.

Not really, making the game to be played more straight up with no unfair advantages. So I guess in your eyes, you like easy mode EQ.

[eqravenprince]

Yep. Sounds like you should start your own hobby server. I'm sure it'll be a hit.

Well both of you are confirming what I had feared, most people like easy mode EQ.

[Kieu]

No, I like the game how it was made by Verant. If it wasn't to your liking why did you play it?

[eqravenprince]

No, I like the game how it was made by Verant. If it wasn't to your liking why did you play it?

Do you honestly believe Verant meant for level 1's to be running around with a Fungi Tunic on. Or power leveled at ridiculous speeds. Or guilds dominating all the raid targets. Don't think so. They meant for it to be most a group game, not a bunch of powerlevelers, twinkers, and kiters.

[Kieu]

No use talking to you. Good day, gl with that server

[Emphase]

i think he means having run speed, snare, fear, root, charm, feign death, teleportation spells and pets in the game, as that's how it was created. it would be stupid without those

[Mangorange]

Who needs teleportation to dominate all raids mobs when you have enough alts camped out at spawn point?

[Depression]

You do know that guilds camp their toons at the, or near the spawn point of the raid target right? That makes it even harder for all the other smaller / more casual guilds to compete.

No teleporting would only hurt all the casual players / lowbies who would be turned off by the fact that they need to wait for boats, run for 10 hours (exaggeration, but it would be close to that!) just to realize that they can't speak elvish and can't ask anyone for a bind in Gfay.

Also since there's no SoW, and they'll probably die a million times since they can't run away from mobs.

If you want to try and prevent 1 or 2 guilds getting all the targets on this proposed server, your best bet is probably to try disable emails/vent/twitter/facebook/other batphone systems that guilds use.

[eqravenprince]

Who needs teleportation to dominate all raids mobs when you have enough alts camped out at spawn point?

Well you will have to excuse my ignorance on the high level game. I have never been there, I just see people bitching about TMO all the time. So I was attempting to come up with a way to prevent the hogging of raid mobs. I assumed it happened by someone who was camped there, alerting the guild, then they all port close to there, run in and kill. I truly only care about the 1-60 group game, if I could remove raiding I would.

[Thulack]

Not really, making the game to be played more straight up with no unfair advantages. So I guess in your eyes, you like easy mode EQ.

What you call easy mode are abilities that make classes unique. No port or snare? who would ever take a druid in a group again? Remove pets? why would anyone take a mage ever considering i'm sure you would want CoTH done away with too. You want all these things removed go play diablo 2. i dont think any of those things you listed is in that game :)

[eqravenprince]

You do know that guilds camp their toons at the, or near the spawn point of the raid target right? That makes it even harder for all the other smaller / more casual guilds to compete.

No teleporting would only hurt all the casual players / lowbies who would be turned off by the fact that they need to wait for boats, run for 10 hours (exaggeration, but it would be close to that!) just to realize that they can't speak elvish and can't ask anyone for a bind in Gfay.

Also since there's no SoW, and they'll probably die a million times since they can't run away from mobs.

If you want to try and prevent 1 or 2 guilds getting all the targets on this proposed server, your best bet is probably to try disable emails/vent/twitter/facebook/other batphone systems that guilds use.

Do guilds have enough camped at a spawn point to take down multiple raid targets? That is hard to imagine. If all the raid targets spawned at the same time, that would take an aweful lot of alts. With severe powerleveling/twinking removed, not many people would have the time to have that many maxed alts.

[eqravenprince]

What you call easy mode are abilities that make classes unique. No port or snare? who would ever take a druid in a group again? Remove pets? why would anyone take a mage ever considering i'm sure you would want CoTH done away with too. You want all these things removed go play diablo 2. i dont think any of those things you listed is in that game :)

Haha, I don't see Druids in my group anyhow, they are all off soloing. Pets, same deal, how many necros and mages do you see grouping. That is exactly my point.

[Depression]

if I could remove raiding I would.

http://www.farmville.com

That might be more your thing, no raiding, no porting, no sow, no feign death, no big guilds cockblocking you, no twinking, no powerleveling, there are pets though =/

[eqravenprince]

http://www.farmville.com

That might be more your thing, no raiding, no porting, no sow, no feign death, no big guilds cockblocking you, no twinking, no powerleveling, there are pets though =/

LOL... no depth, no traveling, no items, no classes, no races, no factions, no dungeons, not hardcore. What most people are arguing with me is they think I want easier. Those changes I mentioned would make it harder. I really think blizzard knew what the majority of people really wanted, they want easy mode. There is a reason I don't play WoW, too easy, but it sounds like a game for all you power levelers, twinkers, and soloers.

[Kieu]

You're just making yourself look dumber every post.

[eqravenprince]

You're just making yourself look dumber every post.

You haven't said anything of substance yet.

[Barkingturtle]

Ban spells, imo.

[Depression]

LOL... no depth, no traveling, no items, no classes, no races, no factions, no dungeons, not hardcore. What most people are arguing with me is they think I want easier. Those changes I mentioned would make it harder. I really think blizzard knew what the majority of people really wanted, they want easy mode. There is a reason I don't play WoW, too easy, but it sounds like a game for all you power levelers, twinkers, and soloers.

Reason why WoW did so well was because the majority of people aren't hardcore and like to play games casually, and in the end, it's all about the money.

To be honest, it doesn't sound like you want a new server, it sounds like you want a new game, cause all those things you're asking for isn't EQ at all.

You shouldn't be getting upset at seeing twinks with fungi tunics or power leveling, just play your game the way you want to play, it would be pretty easy not to ask for SoW, ports, or buffs from high level players. People play this game the way THEY want to play it, even those twinks.

[Tecmos Deception]

Well both of you are confirming what I had feared, most people like easy mode EQ.

You got me. I spend all day on my 60 chanter using an animation to clear orc 2. I would do orc 1, except I can zone to WC quick from orc 2 if I run into any trouble + Shin Ree scares the bejeebers out of me, ya know?

[Kieu]

You haven't said anything of substance yet.

And what is of substance in your thread? You wanting to have something you won't achieve because you find it blasphemic that people can port/sow/teleport/snare/fd/twink/ etc. Yeah, totally a grand post. There are games for you, typically they're called farmville.

[Tecmos Deception]

You shouldn't be getting upset at seeing twinks with fungi tunics or power leveling, just play your game the way you want to play, it would be pretty easy not to ask for SoW, ports, or buffs from high level players. People play this game the way THEY want to play it, even those twinks.

This guy gets it!

[eqravenprince]

Play the way I want to... kind of hard when a powerleveler comes in and wrecks an entire low level dungeon. Someone twinked out to a lesser degree. Either way those people aren't grouping which is the way I want to play. Gang up on me all you want. I'm obviously in the minority. I don't want farmville. I like a good hardcore game. Twinking, powerleveling, kiting all make it less hardcore. I would rather there just be a button for all of you powerlevelers and severe twinkers to start at level 60. Why the damn rush.

[Thulack]

Play the way I want to... kind of hard when a powerleveler comes in and wrecks an entire low level dungeon. Someone twinked out to a lesser degree. Either way those people aren't grouping which is the way I want to play. Gang up on me all you want. I'm obviously in the minority. I don't want farmville. I like a good hardcore game. Twinking, powerleveling, kiting all make it less hardcore. I would rather there just be a button for all of you powerlevelers and severe twinkers to start at level 60. Why the damn rush.

Go start on sleeper server. there is no twinking,powerlevel,Kiting(due to group xp being so much better then solo xp).

[Depression]

Play the way I want to... kind of hard when a powerleveler comes in and wrecks an entire low level dungeon. Someone twinked out to a lesser degree. Either way those people aren't grouping which is the way I want to play. Gang up on me all you want. I'm obviously in the minority. I don't want farmville. I like a good hardcore game. Twinking, powerleveling, kiting all make it less hardcore. I would rather there just be a button for all of you powerlevelers and severe twinkers to start at level 60. Why the damn rush.

That's the thing though, you're trying to make people play the way YOU want to play. It's true, you are the minority. I'm sure there are other people who feel the same way you do, but I think most people don't mind twinking/PLing/kiting. I don't think people are ganging up on you, I think most people disagree with what you're saying is all.

I've heard some good things about The Sleeper server, so your best bet is probably to try that out since it's still fresh and there's not much high level toons there yet. In the future though, there will be twinking / PLing on that server, but till then, you can enjoy yourself.

[Gadwen]

obvious troll is obvious

[eqravenprince]

obvious troll is obvious

Well it wasn't meant to cause such an emotional response from people, but it did. So I guess by the very definition, it appears like a troll post. But it wasn't meant to be. I was a little fearful that I would get the kind of response I did because it does seem like most people like twinking, powerleveling, kiting, etc. But I also thought, there would be at least some people who do not like those things that might respond. I was sincere and I am still hopeful for an alternate ruleset server to be made more in line with what I like. Probably won't happen and that's ok, will wait to see what Everquest Next offers.

[Valium]

Well it wasn't meant to cause such an emotional response from people, but it did. So I guess by the very definition, it appears like a troll post. But it wasn't meant to be. I was a little fearful that I would get the kind of response I did because it does seem like most people like twinking, powerleveling, kiting, etc. But I also thought, there would be at least some people who do not like those things that might respond. I was sincere and I am still hopeful for an alternate ruleset server to be made more in line with what I like. Probably won't happen and that's ok, will wait to see what Everquest Next offers.

I understand where you're coming from - whether you wanted a serious discussion or not. We all know those things go on in any MMO. Those things will always happen and that will not change here. You either have to accept this or move on.

We all do what we want within the boundaries of the game. Some roleplayed, some raided hardcore, and some wanted it more challenging than designed. Hell, some people just signed on to chat! Nobody likes griefers but they're here, too! The creators wanted it to be OUR world as much as theirs. That's what made it so successful. They never did tailor it to any concept but theirs and they won't do that here, either. It wouldn't be the same game.

So with that in mind, who's to stop you from making some of those adjustments yourself to add some challenge? I used to raid without pants and nobody ever stopped me!

P.S. Ya know, perfect time to bring this up...this server needs to bring back pantsing! One of our GM's on live used to go to zones just to pants unsuspecting players. Oh man, so much hilarity. Big raid target and an AFK player? Pantsed and screenshotted for all.

[skipdog]

This post is hilarious. How the OP actually thinks he is going to get taken seriously on this forum with these ideas is totally beyond my comprehension.

[falkun]

This post is hilarious. How the OP actually thinks he is going to get taken seriously on this forum with these ideas is totally beyond my comprehension.

You assume a lot about a troll...

[NoWaiJ]

i really like your ideas for a new server, but i want to make a suggestion.

why don't you remove all npc's from the game as well? this way nobody can fight over spawns. we can all just run around and /hug one another in a wide open space. come to think of it, you should just disable all zones except for ecommons so we can /hug without too much trouble.

e: not sure why everyone is shitting on this idea. why go small with just an everquest private server? contact some of the big player companies and get them to fund your brilliant ideas and make a real game. it blows my mind that not a single respectable company has not thought of your ideas first. this could be huge.

[Valium]

This post is hilarious. How the OP actually thinks he is going to get taken seriously on this forum with these ideas is totally beyond my comprehension.

I remember Harbingers of Thule was a topic of discussion when they first wanted to do an Iksar only RP guild on here. I think the Guild Leader was labeled a troll and given a hard time but stuck to his guns and went with it. Aren't they still around now? More power to 'em if they are.

I'll give the lad the benefit of the doubt and see where this goes...

[Handull]

teleportation spells and pets removed.

LMFAO, are you serious?

Run speed, snare, fear, root, charm, teleportation spells and pets removed.

So you basically don't want anyone to ever play a Druid, Ranger, Mage, Necro, and arguably an Enchanter? And if no one bothers to play an Enchanter you can be sure that no one will roll a Wizard. Also Hate and Sky raids won't exist anymore.

Nice troll post.

[Chloroform]

most people do not enjoy playing a game straight up

LOL. holy shit where do these people come from. Advice to u, play an all instance game, and get out of EQ as fast as possible.

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[Done]

A group without snare or root is probably a really good idea.

[Chloroform]

free bump, still loling all over the casa, this is a funny concept.

Im sure this post will spark some interest in some players that will want to play by your Finely Tuned Rule set. then u guys can all group together and exp in the karanas. Cuz with out snare ur FUCKED, super fucked. GL

[Gadwen]

This is for you OP.

http://www.eqemulator.org/wiki/wikka.php?wakka=CategoryServer

[applesauce25r624]

0.8 star thread

[Infectious]

Only read the first page but lol... All them elements id what make this everquest. If you took out all them spells, then why have more then two classes? If you notice almost every class has a feature that no other class has. Its why people hated expansions past velious. It took away the uniqueness of the classes. Books, mercs and so on... If you had a caster who casted spells and tank, who tanked. It would be boring. Classic to velious did it so perfect from classes to items to camping items. Every mmo I played since eq, I compare to eq. Then I quit a month later.

[myriverse]

Ban spells, imo.
Ban armour! You haven't played "straight up" until you fight nude!

Of course, I'm not gonna group with a guy who's fighting "straight up.":eek:

[Depression]

Ban armour! You haven't played "straight up" until you fight nude!
Of course, I'm not gonna group with a guy who's fighting "straight up.":eek:

Still too easy, ban attacks all together for melees imo, real men walk away from fights.

[Sycho]

At first I thought OP was jk or trolling, then I was like omg he's serious...

[Clark]

Sounds like you need to make a private server, as this is completely absurd in my eyes. You're taking away what the game has to offer players.

^ :)

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

eq2 basically solves all of these problems, maybe not how you prefer, but it does solve them.

[Anesthia]

Every time I think of EQ2 I get visions of winged ogres dual wielding candy canes.

[eqravenprince]

Most of my ideas are in all the newer MMO's. I guess my ideas aren't all that ridiculous after all. I'm no expert, but I believe most games have level requirements on equipment or scaled based on level. I believe power leveling is either impossible or not nearly as crazy as it is here. They have anti kiting code. While I don't like instancing, that seems to be the way new MMO's prevent cockblocking and allow for everyone to have access to all content. And no I don't want to play those other games, I like most of EQ. Even in it's original form flaws and all, it is still the best MMO for me. Have a nice day, flame on.

[Elmarnieh]

If I wanted someone's misguided attempts to force everyone to be fair and equal according to their distorted beliefs I'd play on a server Obama created.

[loneless999]

no spells
no skills
no equipment
only human races
no classes

only your naked human char with your bare hands to slap the mobs with

thats how i want to play

[Kika Maslyaka]

its called Age of Wushu - released 2 days ago and free to play ;)

[Kieu]

At first I thought OP was jk or trolling, then I was like omg he's serious...

Oh he srs.

[Sinlea]

no spells
no skills
no equipment
only human races
no classes

only your naked human char with your bare hands to slap the mobs with

thats how i want to play

This is called a human monk.

[Clark]

DO THIS



not

[Swish]

Best custom EQ server on live was the Mayong 51/50 server (with hotzones in PoP and places).

Everyone's new character started at L51, with 50 AAs and obviously with "Live" rules I think characters went up to 85 at the time.

If there's potential for any custom server I'd love to see that again :)

[Sithel1988]

YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WHO LIKES THIS IDEA

[Wonton]

Run speed, snare, fear, root, charm, teleportation spells and pets removed. Add level limits to items. You can only get buffs up to 1.5 times your level. Somehow remove Feign Death and any other overpowered powerleveling that I haven't thought of. This is optional, but I liked having no common language like on the FV server back in the day.


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