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Gel Mibson
04-10-2013, 01:20 PM
MQ users have been SERVED!

Reddi
04-10-2013, 01:28 PM
Need the deets

Num1RecommendedByDentists
04-10-2013, 01:42 PM
tweet the deets dawg

Nirgon
04-10-2013, 01:45 PM
tweet the deets

Destin have to reroll again? He was probably just finishing lvl 59 and his VP key.

Gel Mibson
04-10-2013, 01:59 PM
it's on the p99 homepage, updated at 1:07PM

http://www.project1999.org/index.php

STILLnotMORNIN
04-10-2013, 02:10 PM
Early word on the street is Supreme caught his second MQ ban. rip tacos

Nirgon
04-10-2013, 02:10 PM
Thats not a tweet of deets

Jenni D
04-10-2013, 02:17 PM
Yet again cheats are granted a chance to simply reroll and have their friends PL them back to where they left off within a couple weeks. the community unaware

Kraftwerk
04-10-2013, 02:18 PM
Any tweets of cheat deets?

Smedy
04-10-2013, 02:23 PM
Can we get a list of shame please, shit would be classic

Andis
04-10-2013, 02:26 PM
mornin how u gonna copy my sig

Jenni D
04-10-2013, 02:29 PM
Well, the red pop is low enough to notice if anyone has suddenly stopped logging in.
Could even make a thread for each big guild here with list of every player's main's name and edit it with "seen" or "not seen" over say the next week.

Andis
04-10-2013, 02:38 PM
rid this server of the trash

cheating on a 12+ year old game

prais to nilbog

Andis
04-10-2013, 02:40 PM
ALSO**

If you ban people, a list should be given, so the community knows

pls post, thanks

Nirgon
04-10-2013, 02:43 PM
Yeah way to place the responsibility on guilds not to invite known cheaters etc then not tell everyone, right?

How th'fuck are people supposed to know? Then they get branded for inviting cheaters to their guild.

Jenni D
04-10-2013, 02:47 PM
Guilds will never respect GM decisions until these cheats are outed and shamed

Andis
04-10-2013, 02:49 PM
Guilds will never respect GM decisions until these cheats are outed and shamed

take some notes people

A+++++ jenni

MC Epic
04-10-2013, 02:49 PM
Does anyone else think that banning accounts is not a very good "justice" or deterrent?

Wasn't Ender's account banned for such, and then his guild powerleveled & geared a new rogue for him?

This is why we need the deets.

Kimm Barely
04-10-2013, 02:50 PM
http://i.imgur.com/vpy8HZj.jpg

Rushmore
04-10-2013, 02:53 PM
account banning isnt that bad. Items need to be deleted. Levels need to be reset to level 1

Reddi
04-10-2013, 03:13 PM
mornin how u gonna copy my sig

Lmao

Smedy
04-10-2013, 03:22 PM
Yeah way to place the responsibility on guilds not to invite known cheaters etc then not tell everyone, right?

How th'fuck are people supposed to know? Then they get branded for inviting cheaters to their guild.

prasing for the truth to be spoken

Gel Mibson
04-10-2013, 03:27 PM
Does anyone else think that banning accounts is not a very good "justice" or deterrent?

Wasn't Ender's account banned for such, and then his guild powerleveled & geared a new rogue for him?

This is why we need the deets.

the time invested to relevel and regear and account is probably a decent punishment imo. that's like an extra 15 ingame days of your life.

Reddi
04-10-2013, 03:29 PM
Does anyone else think that banning accounts is not a very good "justice" or deterrent?

Wasn't Ender's account banned for such, and then his guild powerleveled & geared a new rogue for him?

This is why we need the deets.

Word on the streets are that he got the new character banned after hitting 55 with epic.

4 total.

Shrubwise
04-10-2013, 03:32 PM
account banning isnt that bad. Items need to be deleted. Levels need to be reset to level 1

What's the difference between banning an account, or wiping + stripping?
Banning is better. Sometimes it's a double-whammy and the offender has toons on both servers. A real two-fer-one, y'know?

Sirken
04-10-2013, 03:33 PM
they were banning people before this btw, I know of 2 people who had gotten banned in the past month for MQ/SEQ
wonder how they do these sweeps, either way pras be nilbog
when u see one or two banned, its because staff was doing something that led to that account and a flag was noticed. today Ephi ran a query to pull all flagged accounts and ban, same way that they did the 365 back in Aug2011.

pras Ephi

link: https://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=105052

Num1RecommendedByDentists
04-10-2013, 03:34 PM
how many banned this time sirkdawg?

Sirken
04-10-2013, 03:39 PM
how many banned this time sirkdawg?

not enough imo

Num1RecommendedByDentists
04-10-2013, 03:40 PM
out the names yo

need a red99 wall of shame

Sirken
04-10-2013, 03:48 PM
out the names yo
need a red99 wall of shame

list not complete. some of these are false positives, but we have 100% accurate means of seeing if it was used on p99 or not, and will clear that up.

also. some kids may have avoided the ban this time. i know we have acquired a new version of MQ that was made just for R99, and supposedly works without detection. so Ephi and staff will dig into that compile, and after its thoroughly torn apart, we'll add a way to detect it if in fact its currently not detected. should not take to long. but anyone using anything from that RG site will be going down very soon as well :)

Andis
04-10-2013, 03:50 PM
list not complete. some of these are false positives, but we have 100% accurate means of seeing if it was used on p99 or not, and will clear that up.

also. some kids may have avoided the ban this time. i know we have acquired a new version of MQ that was made just for R99, and supposedly works without detection. so Ephi and staff will dig into that compile, and after its thoroughly torn apart, we'll add a way to detect it if in fact its currently not detected. should not take to long. but anyone using anything from that RG site will be going down very soon as well :)

PRAIS sirken and team

the white knight this server needs.

Num1RecommendedByDentists
04-10-2013, 03:51 PM
cool shit man, good to hear

when you guys get the list sorted out, can we expect a public announcement of said scumbag list?

Smedy
04-10-2013, 03:52 PM
pras sirken nilbog ephi all the peeps making this box the best box for simply one reason, cleaning out the mq trash

Reddi
04-10-2013, 04:02 PM
Can I get a pardon for having a clean no MQ whistle?

Sirken
04-10-2013, 04:03 PM
cool shit man, good to hear

when you guys get the list sorted out, can we expect a public announcement of said scumbag list?

its doubtful. P99 is the 4th or 5th EQEmu server staff(depending if u consider Searyx's vztz, and Null's vztz different server staffs) i have been apart of. and not a single one of those staffs have made the ban lists pubilc. (although, after we closed vztz for the final time, we did make the staff section open to the public so players could indeed finally see all the ban threads, along with all the QQ from players in those threads)

Reddi
04-10-2013, 04:06 PM
Pretty sure they listed the names from 2011 MQ sweep

Andis
04-10-2013, 04:07 PM
But Sirken,

What harm does it give us to know who is cheating in our community?

If anything it will help us catch them again if they do it.

Reddi
04-10-2013, 04:18 PM
Sirken.

heartbrand
04-10-2013, 04:26 PM
shud post names on red

quido
04-10-2013, 04:26 PM
Really though you should consider compiling a list of names and sharing it once all the false positives and such are sorted out. Is it really fair to people who want to avoid playing/guilding/whatevering with cheaters to not have any clue because of some dated policy that doesn't allow such a breach of "privacy" or whatever it is? I understand that part of it is "we don't answer to you" and you want to discourage a bunch of frivolous requests for information, but damn, help us help you. I guarantee you that if you assist the community in outing these cheaters - help us to better shun them - you will have much less work in that regard in the end and you will have a community with greater integrity overall.

Ephi
04-10-2013, 04:37 PM
Pretty sure they listed the names from 2011 MQ sweep

Oh, so lets do it because we did it last time.

Name and shame does nothing but gives the trolls more to do when they should be:

1) Outside
2) In school
3) At work
4) Not here

heartbrand
04-10-2013, 04:38 PM
I've seen basically every1 on so far post ban anyway so chances are if any1 got banned on red it's a bunch of non-factors no1 ever heard of

Reddi
04-10-2013, 04:44 PM
Oh, so lets do it because we did it last time.

Name and shame does nothing but gives the trolls more to do when they should be:

1) Outside
2) In school
3) At work
4) Not here

Why do u hate me so much every interaction with you is a condescending negative one.

quido
04-10-2013, 04:46 PM
1) There was just a tornado here
2) No class today!
3) No work today!
4) You love us

Having done it before is not a good reason for doing it again. However, enabling the community to identify and appropriately ostracize violators is not just feeding the trolls (though it is that too) - it is an additional (though clearly not necessary) means of further promoting server integrity. Why enable these people in creating new identities and shirking due justice partially? The community suffers because of these violators in more ways than them having simply broken the rules.

Ephi
04-10-2013, 04:48 PM
Why do u hate me so much every interaction with you is a condescending negative one.

... Who are you?

Heywood
04-10-2013, 04:49 PM
I've seen basically every1 on so far post ban anyway so chances are if any1 got banned on red it's a bunch of non-factors no1 ever heard of

You're calling your guildie Tox1c1ty a non-factor, bru? Harsh.

Bamzal Sherbet
04-10-2013, 05:00 PM
a new version of MQ that was made just for R99, and supposedly works without detection

this is why we gotta name & shame. because the worst offender is playing right here

hagard
04-10-2013, 05:04 PM
trolls gonna troll regardless.
RELEASE THE NAMES.
I'll donate 10$ on the front page paypal link.


ps. dont ban me 4 that last comment

Agatha
04-10-2013, 05:07 PM
l
MQ that was made just for R99, and supposedly works without detection.


are you guys in possesion of MQ MQ that was made for r99, or the totally different hook made from scratch? as far as i can tell your mq detection only detects MQ processes. There is a totally different program being run now.

Sirken
04-10-2013, 05:12 PM
are you guys in possesion of MQ MQ that was made for r99, or the totally different hook made from scratch? as far as i can tell your mq detection only detects MQ processes. There is a totally different program being run now.

i wont discuss that in public. if u or anyone else has any info that u feel could be useful or compiles you wish to talk about, or wish to send me, then feel free to drop a PM, and you will have my full attention.

anything to rid this server of hax, sploits, and the people that use them, is in everybody's best interest.

Gel Mibson
04-10-2013, 05:27 PM
pras pras pras

Tarwine
04-10-2013, 05:35 PM
I'm confused, Nizzar and Co. promised I'd be banned after this, but for some reason I can still log in. They promised they had fraps evidence, clearly something dirty going on here.

Doors
04-10-2013, 05:36 PM
pras nilberg

Ephi
04-10-2013, 06:04 PM
I'm not really getting involved with all this, but Jeremy made some very pertinent points, which were not acknowledged by any staff member in this thread. Releasing the names would serve as a deterrent to hax, sploits, and anyone who would think to use them as far as I can tell.

I don't see any argument to how releasing the names would increase hax.

We aren't releasing the names because... we're not. Sorry guys. Pick a different fight.

Num1RecommendedByDentists
04-10-2013, 06:05 PM
l o l

quido
04-10-2013, 06:07 PM
we're missing out on tons of fun =(

SamwiseRed
04-10-2013, 06:10 PM
list not complete. some of these are false positives, but we have 100% accurate means of seeing if it was used on p99 or not, and will clear that up.

also. some kids may have avoided the ban this time. i know we have acquired a new version of MQ that was made just for R99, and supposedly works without detection. so Ephi and staff will dig into that compile, and after its thoroughly torn apart, we'll add a way to detect it if in fact its currently not detected. should not take to long. but anyone using anything from that RG site will be going down very soon as well :)

praise staff, i was starting to think you guys just ignored the shit RG is spewing out. pras

SamwiseRed
04-10-2013, 06:13 PM
also the reason name and shame is important on red is to nullify any kills by these cheating scum.

Vile
04-10-2013, 06:18 PM
PRAS AYRO

Captivate
04-10-2013, 06:19 PM
no names no pras

Vile
04-10-2013, 06:24 PM
agreed.. i think it sucks names aren't public info.

the thing that sucks for GMs, if they did out the names, there are some false flags, and knowing this cesspool community... if a ban that was unjust was overturned, you guys would cry GM favoritism all day. so it pretty much puts the GMs in a shitty situation.

i am sure you guys can do your own detective work and see who doesn't log in the next few days... post your own speculated lists and cross off names when those people are seen in game imo.

Feniggles
04-10-2013, 06:26 PM
Yet again cheats are granted a chance to simply reroll and have their friends PL them back to where they left off within a couple weeks. the community unaware

=(

Agatha
04-10-2013, 06:31 PM
from what i can tell, the mq detection logs any MQ use, so if you use MQ on another server, it flags you, since the MQ detection software is on your own PC. it detects any and all mq processes, im not sure exactly what it logs and sends back to the server, i imagine a date and time. Since you could simply claim you where on a different emu.

hopefully thats the case, or else if i got banned for MQ id just say i was on another server at the time.

Ephi
04-10-2013, 06:38 PM
from what i can tell, the mq detection logs any MQ use, so if you use MQ on another server, it flags you, since the MQ detection software is on your own PC. it detects any and all mq processes, im not sure exactly what it logs and sends back to the server, i imagine a date and time. Since you could simply claim you where on a different emu.

hopefully thats the case, or else if i got banned for MQ id just say i was on another server at the time.

This wreaks of inaccuracy. Do not speak to that which you do not know.

Ephi
04-10-2013, 06:39 PM
Sorry ephi,rogean,nilbog

this server will be legit as fuck because or sirken

why are people getting thier characters back?

Wut?

Agatha
04-10-2013, 06:42 PM
This wreaks of inaccuracy. Do not speak to that which you do not know.

so when im on another server, and using MQ, your MQ detection software is not running? or what?

Barladore
04-10-2013, 06:45 PM
Ephi, you're intense bro

Ephi
04-10-2013, 06:47 PM
Ephi, you're intense bro

I think you'll find I'm quite nice. Just have zero tolerance for idiots/trolls who think they know things and spread disease around this community.

Ephi
04-10-2013, 06:51 PM
so when im on another server, and using MQ, your MQ detection software is not running? or what?

If you think I'm going to share anything that would compromise our methods, you be wrong ;)

Agatha
04-10-2013, 06:54 PM
exactly what i thought :P

Yagebasto
04-10-2013, 07:12 PM
Ephi has ascended to god status IMO

Jenni D
04-10-2013, 07:30 PM
Example 1;

banned player makes sob story about their ban on guild private forums. guild believe it or simply dont care about gm decision. guild PL and regear banned player. community never knows. banned player is not ridiculed off svr.

Example 2;

banned player rerolls a new toon. Tells their guild oh hai guys, ive retired xxxx this is my new char, gonna play casual now due to work/school. reguilds when hits 50+.

example 3;

Banned player secretly levels up new toon. Then tells old pals they quit svr on a whim many months before and sold account for blue plat. but they are back now, any pl plz?

Jenni D
04-10-2013, 07:34 PM
I had 4 more examples but then i remembered cheats always get a 2nd chance here lals

Jenni D
04-10-2013, 07:37 PM
Triple post for the umad factor.

Why are gm's bothered about trolls trolling cheaters?
also thats what rnf is for. just forum ban trolls outside rnf.

am i missing something?

SamwiseRed
04-10-2013, 07:42 PM
ender/destin on his 5th rogue as we speak getting PL'd

Faerie Blossom
04-10-2013, 07:58 PM
I hope these account bannings come with free IP bans too. Regardless, this is great news! Any steps taken to eliminate cheating are steps worth taking. Kind of a shame that devs have to spend time reverse engineering new cheating methods instead of coding in the big pvp changes they're working on, but I guess that's just how things are.

Captivate
04-10-2013, 08:00 PM
ender/destin on his 5th rogue as we speak getting PL'd



... im glad you guys did a ban wave... but without names ^^^^^^^^ THIS is whats going to happen.

Nihilum is so desperate for beating hearts they could give a shit less that they just had a member banned. They WILL toss him all the banked loot they have which serves a purpose for things like this.

Sirken
04-10-2013, 08:10 PM
praise staff, i was starting to think you guys just ignored the shit RG is spewing out. pras
nah. just takes a minute to get in the vip section ;)
but alas, we got what we needed ;)

Ephi has ascended to god status IMO
hes been there, try to keep up ;)

so when im on another server, and using MQ, your MQ detection software is not running? or what?
We know what you do on our server. thats all you need to know.

Nirgon
04-10-2013, 08:16 PM
Grats to whoever got banned (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0ZBrmkJ_-s)

SamwiseRed
04-10-2013, 09:49 PM
lol that VIP, say hi to wakkawakka while you are there :)

hagard
04-10-2013, 11:46 PM
Hey Sirken, about how many from red got the banhammer?

Captivate
04-10-2013, 11:46 PM
yeah could you atleast post some numbers?

Captivate
04-10-2013, 11:48 PM
There is a reason why people are publicly outed in real life for their crimes.


Seriously what is to deter someone especially with friends banking dragon loot of all sorts from cheating?


exactly.

Labanen
04-10-2013, 11:50 PM
Good job swinging the banhammer, server needed that

Jenni D
04-10-2013, 11:59 PM
Heh, for all we know there were only bans o n blue. maybe nobody on red got banned. we'll never know.

Kimm Barely
04-11-2013, 08:14 AM
We know what you do on our server. thats all you need to know.

Do you know what I do when I'm off your server? thats all I need to know.

Smedy
04-11-2013, 08:46 AM
pretty sure rogean knows when i'm loading up porn on my second screen while medding, pretty sure he jacks off to cause my taste is fucking amazing

heartbrand
04-11-2013, 09:25 AM
Do you know what I do when I'm off your server? thats all I need to know.

lol'ed

Andis
04-11-2013, 09:55 AM
pretty sure rogean knows when i'm loading up porn on my second screen while medding, pretty sure he jacks off to cause my taste is fucking amazing

this

SamwiseRed
04-11-2013, 10:10 AM
dat

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS2lGgy1MOC02B0XJ25Qe6ytcIzinuw3 WYb1N48rroGwKPMd2enZA

Nirgon
04-11-2013, 10:54 AM
Rogean isn't going to fuck with your shit. People know where he rest at homeys.

Ephi
04-11-2013, 11:41 AM
Do you know what I do when I'm off your server? thats all I need to know.

nope

Lazortag
04-11-2013, 12:07 PM
Last time a sweep like this occurred, guild officers were told which of their members were banned (so that they could remove them from the guild or take whatever action was necessary). Why didn't that happen this time?

Kimm Barely
04-11-2013, 12:14 PM
http://i.imgur.com/avjqGeN.png

Shrubwise
04-11-2013, 12:16 PM
Players always
need need need. Banned a bunch a people? Oh that's cool.
But
we want more.
Need
need
needing. Always.

Original poem by, Shrubwise. Signed &framed copies available.

Sirken
04-11-2013, 01:45 PM
Yes blue got hit with more bans than red. but thats because blues population is roughly 400% higher than Red.

to clarify, people on both servers were banned. we are currently working through peoples (mostly sad) attempts to appeal. we also have just acquired new versions of MQ, SEQ, and HPMaps. so, id expect another wave in the near future.

REMINDER - If you share your account with guildies and friends, and they log in your account with MQ, it will flag YOUR account, and YOU will be banned.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7153/6761389627_53eb2206fe_z.jpg

Reddi
04-11-2013, 01:51 PM
Yes blue got hit with more bans than red. but thats because blues population is roughly 400% higher than Red.

to clarify, people on both servers were banned. we are currently working through peoples (mostly sad) attempts to appeal. we also have just acquired new versions of MQ, SEQ, and HPMaps. so, id expect another wave in the near future.

REMINDER - If you share your account with guildies and friends, and they log in your account with MQ, it will flag YOUR account, and YOU will be banned.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7153/6761389627_53eb2206fe_z.jpg

So what your saying is that if someone decides to share their info, and GMs ban that character, that person is SoL because account sharing is at your own risk?

MC Epic
04-11-2013, 01:57 PM
So what your saying is that if someone decides to share their info, and GMs ban that character, that person is SoL because account sharing is at your own risk?

plz yes

Faerie Blossom
04-11-2013, 02:02 PM
I hope they get around to making it an offense to trade/sell accounts soon.

Yagebasto
04-11-2013, 02:04 PM
So what your saying is that if someone decides to share their info, and GMs ban that character, that person is SoL because account sharing is at your own risk?

not sheriff srs...

Ephi
04-11-2013, 02:13 PM
So what your saying is that if someone decides to share their info, and GMs ban that character, that person is SoL because account sharing is at your own risk?

100% correct!

Captivate
04-11-2013, 02:28 PM
waddaya know

not one of the 6 + people with my enchanters info has broken 1 rule.


not everyone over the internet is out to get you and ruin your shit pals.


pras freez pilots

heartbrand
04-11-2013, 02:53 PM
Correction, no one has been caught breaking a rule on freez, lite boxed him in hate before and when I told him you can't do that with someone else's char he joked you never play anyway.

Captivate
04-11-2013, 02:56 PM
Id like for you to prove it pal, plus i play allmost daily.

MC Epic
04-11-2013, 02:57 PM
This message is hidden because heartbrand is on your ignore list.

heartbrand
04-11-2013, 02:58 PM
Yaw yaw supreme never used MQ, xico never died in pvp, I've never trained, zozo has never insta quit with ip exempt, lite never boxed yaw yaw

Captivate
04-11-2013, 03:00 PM
supreme was banned from blue for mq so thats proven, he wont deny it.

i have killshots of xico

are you saying on this line you train? never noticed you must be terrible.

zozo never insta qd on me.. i have too many killshots on my wizard.

proof of lite boxing? de hurr lol

derp

heartbrand
04-11-2013, 03:02 PM
Folks the above post is what years of drug abuse looks like

Captivate
04-11-2013, 03:10 PM
or i could possibly be typing illiterately on purpose because after all we are on a 15 year old emu web forum.

heartbrand complete failure, with no confidence or self worth, joins nihi after years of talking shit and crying about them. even failing to run a guild to compete.

Reddi
04-11-2013, 03:18 PM
100% correct!

Thank you sweet prince. It's nice to see staff say that sharing accounts is AT YOUR OWN RISK.

I hope everyone reads this an understands it. Please put on font page so no grey area occurs.

CCing Sirken.

Runya
04-11-2013, 03:25 PM
Sharing accts is at your own risk......selective enforcement on that rule.

Andis
04-11-2013, 03:36 PM
This message is hidden because heartbrand is on your ignore list.

Captivate
04-11-2013, 03:38 PM
heartbrand asshole ripped, taking a nap to save face? too late!

Tomato King3
04-11-2013, 11:08 PM
13 pages of pure derp

Dullah
04-14-2013, 09:54 AM
Destin have to reroll again? He was probably just finishing lvl 59 and his VP key.

59?

Please.

Try 60.

karsten
04-14-2013, 10:01 AM
Please.

Jenni D
04-14-2013, 10:12 AM
geez...that is a sign of true addiction

Tomato King3
04-14-2013, 06:58 PM
booring thread