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Taboo
04-08-2013, 01:36 PM
Who is going? Post here your ingame names and lets get some groups going!

This server will be up to Velious era.

Will be nice to actually play a server from launch for once.



Taboo
Ranger

Nune
04-08-2013, 01:49 PM
I'm tempted but.. Idk. Think so few Blue players went to Red on launch that they've forgotten what a fresh launch is like.

50% of me loves the idea there'd be a server full of level 1's, and i can play any class i want without the rape penalty, legacy items, new pals, oh my.

50% of me loves having 200+ wis and 40+K in gear: all acquired by sitting on my ass in EC, semi-afk, flipping gear. It's also nice knowing that every day I decide on RL over EQ, I wont be left in the dust by the entire server who will probably camp their computer chairs for a week to go farm out everything Pre-Nerf.

On Red server, I probably played half the time the "serious" players did, and that was A TON of EQ for me. Did that for a month, stayed with the pack, and eventually got tired of 9+ hours of EQ a day and immediately got left behind. I know thats whats waiting for me on sleeper.

Aside from all this, when I got on their server, pretty much no one responded to tells. Talked to one GM who was pretty much a dick. I'll probably get on the minute it launches and take a bunch of sweet ass names then sell them :)

feanan
04-08-2013, 02:00 PM
Raid token idea sounds like a pretty good shot at an idea to combat the poisonous
end game here, so I like that.

Not so sold on the two boxing.

Also not so keen on going through the grind again.

Can I get a character transfer? :)

Swish
04-08-2013, 02:11 PM
Insta-start on Velious? They could risk scattering a low population across 2 expansions. Will they equal or better the P99 population? Doubtful.

EDIT: Have you seen their forums? Ghastly!

Swish
04-08-2013, 02:27 PM
Agreed on the 2-boxing.

RnF keeps that kind of stuff out of the main forum which can only be a good thing.

Also... if anyone is thinking of making an account there, DO NOT use the same username/password that you use for P99, because I bet there's a possible hack of the server at some point.

Thulack
04-08-2013, 04:54 PM
Agreed on the 2-boxing.

RnF keeps that kind of stuff out of the main forum which can only be a good thing.

Also... if anyone is thinking of making an account there, DO NOT use the same username/password that you use for P99, because I bet there's a possible hack of the server at some point.

99% of the garbage in RnF is only there because there is RnF forum.

Kagatob
04-09-2013, 04:57 AM
Going to give this a try, seems like a great idea in theory. If the population holds up it may be good in practice as well.

Vampiro
04-09-2013, 08:36 AM
is it eq official? or emulator?

Swish
04-09-2013, 08:40 AM
Had a quick look last night. 13 players online inlcuding the GM. I know its only beta, but that's not too encouraging. Nobody wants to play on a dead server, see R99 when it had 13 people on off-peak :D

Swish
04-09-2013, 08:41 AM
is it eq official? or emulator?

Emulator: www.epicemu.com

Vampiro
04-09-2013, 08:42 AM
whats the name of this sever?

Noselacri
04-09-2013, 09:10 AM
Had a quick look last night. 13 players online inlcuding the GM. I know its only beta, but that's not too encouraging. Nobody wants to play on a dead server, see R99 when it had 13 people on off-peak :D

Their beta was an absolute joke. No communication at all between devs and players, no changelog, no forum search function... it was impossible to test efficiently. Their devs generally don't seem like they have a clue, but the idea behind the server is good so that might be what saves it. The're basically VZTZ-style amateurs with no real sense of what it actually takes to make a server popular. If you decide to play there, give them a lot of critical feedback and don't hold back. They'll need it.

SamwiseRed
04-09-2013, 09:38 AM
weird the devs were always posting shit on rerolled.org

feanan
04-09-2013, 10:00 AM
Just curious, how many people do you expect to see online playing 2 days before a wipe?

What would be the point?

SamwiseRed
04-09-2013, 10:02 AM
new server is new, should be fun even without a huge pop

also the raiding token idea is pretty cool for a blue server, its not like you can really compete for mobs on blue so mite as well give everyone a chance at content.

Raavak
04-09-2013, 10:05 AM
Just curious, how many people do you expect to see online playing 2 days before a wipe?

What would be the point?Anyone know what the peak pop was before the release announcement? Just curious.

SamwiseRed
04-09-2013, 10:08 AM
had there not been other emus, i imagine it would be alot.

most players dont wanna fuck with beta knowing a char wipe is INC. i really dont think the population during beta will be any kind of reliable indicator for the pop on release tomorrow. besides the token thing and velious, legal 2 boxing is going to attract alot of people, especially the casuals who play at off-peak times.

fishingme
04-09-2013, 10:09 AM
Sounds fun, I'm willing to try it. I keep finding myself stuck on every alt, not wanting to go through the same mobs i leveled off of before. Need some velious!

Taboo
04-09-2013, 01:46 PM
I posted this in off topic as it has nothing to do with p99 out of respect. Why was it deleted ? Because it was a server other than p99? Thought that was the whole reason for an " off topic" forum.

SMH

Ele
04-09-2013, 02:15 PM
Because no one cares.

Alarti0001
04-09-2013, 02:17 PM
Because no one cares.

Velious is close enough on p99 that we dont need to waste time on some broken shadow of P99.

Ele
04-09-2013, 02:21 PM
Velious is close enough on p99 that we dont need to waste time on some broken shadow of P99.

I can taste the rainbow.

OforOppression
04-09-2013, 02:32 PM
pretty much the same as if you posted an ad for GW2 on the official WoW forums

Innovative
04-09-2013, 02:33 PM
Just got this email:

Greetings fellow Norrathians!

Announcing the official opening of The Sleeper server tonight at midnight (4-10-2013 12:01AM EST).

Our dev team has been hard at work for over 2 years to bring you the world of Norrath as it existed in the Scars of Velious expansion. Visit https://EpicEmu.com to get your account started.

A great thanks to all the players who helped us from alpha testing closed beta, and open beta - your characters will survive you and have access to Luclin on the new test server within a few months.

-EpicEmu Game Staff & The Sleeper Development Team-

A reminder of the Unique Features on The Sleeper

2 Boxing

Don't have time to look for a group? No problem, box an alternate character and you can have your own pocket healer or whatever helps you progress.
Dynamic Raid Spawning

In the event of overcrowded raid encounters, guilds will be allowed certain tokens per week to spawn raid boss encounters on demand, no need to wait around for random spawn timers while sacrificing valuable real life time. Enjoy the fact that your raid can have a set time and place, without dispute, incident, or provocation from other players.

Randomized Hotzones

Experience boosting hotzones will be randomly chosen and rotated through on a weekly - bi-weekly basis, providing you and other players the ability to group more often in higher risk / reward zones. Sometimes these hotzones may be announced without specifying the zone, making it a fun hunt for you and your friends.

Classic Items/Zone to Start

Remember the 'fire-pot' room? Manastones? Rubicite Armor? Dark Elf Masks? These items are now available, and will be for a limited time after launch.

Epics

The longest, sometimes most annoying and tedious quests are available for you to grind away at and you can get started on your epic quests as soon as you are able to!
Dedicated Development Team

You will have developers who are working hard to bring you content set as close as possible to the accurate era. Community feedback is appreciated, the developers will listen to your idea's to assist in reproducing the ideal Norrath.

Unique Resources

Sometimes the wayback machine just doesn't cut it, in order to get classic content you need classic data. Our development team has been dedicated to keeping track of EverQuest information since it's beginning. Be prepared to play an emulated EverQuest as close to its original content as possible thanks to our developers hard work from years ago.

Innovative
04-09-2013, 02:36 PM
Anyone going to try it out?

MC Epic
04-09-2013, 02:44 PM
Velious is close enough on p99 that we dont need to waste time on some broken shadow of P99.

You would rather waste your time on some broken shadow of live ^_^

To the OP - will check it out; thanks!

Taboo
04-09-2013, 02:52 PM
Was posted in off topic tho. Where things like Hello Kitty online adventures topics and League of Legends live. Those topics are still there.

Thought that where you post things like this. /shrug

Rellapse10
04-09-2013, 02:53 PM
hope Toops server does well... i will come play there if he posts nudes of Nari

Itap
04-09-2013, 02:55 PM
Nope, never heard of it

Taboo
04-09-2013, 02:57 PM
Be careful, I posted about that server here and it got deleted :(

Arclyte
04-09-2013, 02:58 PM
sounds like shit

OforOppression
04-09-2013, 03:26 PM
League of Legends isn't a rival to p99. Toops magical hackboxmcsmokeweed is.

Taboo
04-09-2013, 04:06 PM
Anyone can click guise from inventory. Firepots will be open to bind but not for long.

joppykid
04-09-2013, 04:21 PM
I've never been on a new server at launch before, and won't be due to my work schedule, but wondering what goodies will everyone be racing to get, which btw is mega gay when these Tards make it a race.

For example how does the dark elf masks work? Is it clickable to any race/class until nerfed and then only the lucky few that got one before can use it?

How about firepots room? is that open to anyone that can get there and get binded until nerfed? etc...

If you visit the website it covers all of this.

senna
04-09-2013, 04:35 PM
I'll be there.. super burned out on the wait for velious.

onwards and upwards

Dirkus
04-09-2013, 05:05 PM
wud play but boxing, boxing shits on servers as it is always abused with 3rd party programs and you have a single person capable of clearing planes and killing dragons

shits dum dogs

They are only allowing you to box 2 characters. Kudos if you can clear planes and dragons with 2.

fohkure
04-09-2013, 05:07 PM
They are only allowing you to box 2 characters. Kudos if you can clear planes and dragons with 2.

+1 even with MQ...

I'm going to give it a try for sure. I know it's heresy to say here, but I really liked Luclin and PoP was pretty fun as well.

Chris

Nune
04-09-2013, 06:22 PM
Had a quick look last night. 13 players online inlcuding the GM. I know its only beta, but that's not too encouraging. Nobody wants to play on a dead server, see R99 when it had 13 people on off-peak :D

There's almost no Euros there, I checked online at 2amESt and there were 0 people 4 days ago. Yesterday when I got on there were 150+. It's funny seeing everyone's mentalities shift when something threatening to their server pop comes along.

They wont even need a huge pop to start on a fresh server, everyone will be in a small group of zones for a few weeks. Once the crowd gets to 20-30 it will be interesting to see how thin the pop spreads amongst the multitude of places to go, and then even more so once you're high enough level for Velious content.

I'm trying it; if you ask me P99 has held off on Velious for so long because it's the end of this server forever, not because of server-end work to be done. And as long as there's one more chapter in the Game of Pixels, everyone will wait to read. Once Velious is released, raided to death, you'll see the TMO/FE/BDA crowd start leaving. I suspect a lot of P99 will come here (Sleeper) until Velious is avaliable here, then return where they left off.

Kevynne
04-09-2013, 06:59 PM
still looking forward to this server.
is honestly 90% better than p99.
but of course, the public sky raids here are clutch; so i'll be back eevry sunday!

Kevynne
04-09-2013, 07:01 PM
+1 even with MQ...

I'm going to give it a try for sure. I know it's heresy to say here, but I really liked Luclin and PoP was pretty fun as well.

Chris

die.
rot in the ground
burn in eternal hellfire.

Innovative
04-09-2013, 07:02 PM
They said themselves there is no literal "IP restriction" they said they are doing the honor system (Please don't box more then 2, but we have no literal way of preventing you).

I think EQ's history with an honor system can speak for tiself on any server that has ever existed.

False. They have ways to catch you like they do here.

Tecmos Deception
04-09-2013, 07:04 PM
is honestly 90% better than p99

:rolleyes:

Reiker000
04-09-2013, 07:08 PM
You can't go into this server with P99-like expectations, it's pretty much a straight PEQ db rip, in other words lots of things are gonna be fucked up for awhile.

I'll be boxing a shaman/monk, Reiker/Rahnza.

Kevynne
04-09-2013, 07:16 PM
You can't go into this server with P99-like expectations, it's pretty much a straight PEQ db rip, in other words lots of things are gonna be fucked up for awhile.

I'll be boxing a shaman/monk, Reiker/Rahnza.

nothing at all like PEQ; peq launched with PoP i thought?
and yes, it'll most likely be fucked up for a bit; but w/es if you /report a game breaking bug/exploit you get an item exclusive to ur class/race combo (hie pal gets str/sta pice maybe? :O)

also.
fp bound toons=rolling in plat
cant wait for them to take that out :p

Kevynne
04-09-2013, 07:17 PM
my computer can't handle boxing(so bad amirite?) but I'll be Lauretta (HIE PAL) PRAS MASTER RACE. FOR FELWITHE FOR FIRIONAAAAAA /eats dt
also 1/2 of blackout is rerolling there :)

Reiker000
04-09-2013, 07:26 PM
I can't understand most of what you're writing, but PEQ db doesn't mean PEQ server, it's easy to just shut off expansions... PEQ db is the main default database that almost all servers run, but it's pretty awful. That's what separates P99, they (essentially) built the db from the ground up instead of just plugging in PEQ.

Edit: For example, I did some math on the fingered skeleton for one of the early monk shackle quests. With PEQ drop rates, it'll take approximately 5 hours per finger, and you need 4 different fingers to complete the quest. PEQ drop rates / live accuracy is pretty bad.

Kevynne
04-09-2013, 07:27 PM
pras epicemu.com

Telron
04-09-2013, 07:31 PM
Billgo/Takoo See you at midnight folks!

Kevynne
04-09-2013, 07:32 PM
Billgo/Takoo See you at midnight folks!

Lauretta shall be present for 5 mintues, before i begin furiously grinding out levels on my soon to be sold clr/dru FP bound toons.

Kevynne
04-09-2013, 07:56 PM
38942562896 people on beta, server goes boom so kegz restarts it. :) promising for launch in 4 hours!

Kevynne
04-09-2013, 07:58 PM
anyways; Lauretta HIE pally will be in existence, but i will be leveling Hallistic (HIE CLR) come halps pls

rebeccablack
04-09-2013, 08:00 PM
I fully support epicemu if it results in Chellsea going away.

Anderdale
04-09-2013, 08:02 PM
Do you use the eq launcher or is this not affiliated with eqemu?

Kevynne
04-09-2013, 08:04 PM
Backup

Kevynne
04-09-2013, 08:06 PM
I fully support epicemu if it results in Chellsea going away.

Lololol

Swish
04-09-2013, 08:08 PM
Do you use the eq launcher or is this not affiliated with eqemu?

No affiliation at all. Surprised this thread still exists actually, but at least I know where to point the boxers :D

Reiker000
04-09-2013, 08:08 PM
This is "affiliated" with eqemu as it is an eqemu project. The EQEmu Launcher is not affiliated with eqemu directly, admins have to specifically provide the files to get their server "supported." The Sleeper does not use the default loginserver host, so you won't see it on the server list unless you install their files (which includes the host file that allows you to connect to their server). I'm not sure why they did it that way, but there you go.

Swish
04-09-2013, 08:09 PM
38942562896 people on beta, server goes boom so kegz restarts it. :) promising for launch in 4 hours!

13 last night including the GM, lets not exaggerate.

EDIT: Included boxers.

Anderdale
04-09-2013, 08:09 PM
Anyone can click guise from inventory. Firepots will be open to bind but not for long.

What do you mean?

Innovative
04-09-2013, 08:10 PM
Do you use the eq launcher or is this not affiliated with eqemu?

You can use your same P99 EQ Titanium install. You just have to use their server address and patch files.

Kevynne
04-09-2013, 08:13 PM
We're just 47 on earlier. Good try though.

Kevynne
04-09-2013, 08:14 PM
Incl boxers 37

SyanideGas
04-09-2013, 08:14 PM
...

Kevynne
04-09-2013, 08:15 PM
It's easy to switch back and forth between both servers too~

Noselacri
04-09-2013, 08:26 PM
Pretty worried about dupes and hacks. Their database is absolute garbage as well, but that can be fixed in a few months. It takes just one functional duping method to destroy a new server, and they haven't even really commented on what they've got to prevent hacking. Judging by everything their devs have said so far, they're total amateurs with a neat idea but no clue at all how to run a server.

SamwiseRed
04-09-2013, 08:27 PM
Pretty worried about dupes and hacks. Their database is absolute garbage as well, but that can be fixed in a few months. It takes just one functional duping method to destroy a new server, and they haven't even really commented on what they've got to prevent hacking. Judging by everything their devs have said so far, they're total amateurs with a neat idea but no clue at all how to run a server.

nothing prevents people from hacking here either. just fyi.

Kevynne
04-09-2013, 08:27 PM
Pretty worried about dupes and hacks. Their database is absolute garbage as well, but that can be fixed in a few months. It takes just one functional duping method to destroy a new server, and they haven't even really commented on what they've got to prevent hacking. Judging by everything their devs have said so far, they're total amateurs with a neat idea but no clue at all how to run a server.

Isn't that what pea was when it opened. Hmmm I believe so.

Gadwen
04-09-2013, 08:29 PM
in b4 maps

Swish
04-09-2013, 08:29 PM
For reference I've little interest in playing on a server with boxers on, but to indulge Kevynne I did log in to double check these numbers. As of 2 minutes ago:-

http://i.imgur.com/eWzA4l9.jpg

Must be a lot of anon folks on this open beta... (/who all count is busted)

Anderdale
04-09-2013, 08:46 PM
Anyone can click guise from inventory. Firepots will be open to bind but not for long.

Anyone know what he means? I want to start fresh and get a guise but not sure what he meant by this.

joppykid
04-09-2013, 08:53 PM
I just was on an /who all brought back more than 20. Could not request etc.

Innovative
04-09-2013, 09:07 PM
I just was on an /who all brought back more than 20. Could not request etc.

Same, I wouldn't be surprised with 100's for launch with more over the weekend.

rasik
04-09-2013, 09:10 PM
a lot of the people who have been beta testing through out its beta stopped when they announced a release date /shrug... Also they do have an ip cap at 4. They are assuming 2 per person with 2 people from a single ip.

Naked
04-09-2013, 09:29 PM
LOL! Right now global OOC is open to level 1's we should all go over and have some fun... also WTF, maps, target rings, and non-classic mob models?

Tecmos Deception
04-09-2013, 09:31 PM
(/who all count is busted)

Count me out then.

No, seriously. I must use /who count all commands like 30 times a day on p99.

Reiker000
04-09-2013, 09:35 PM
Yeah, I don't get why they go through so much effort to hide their server population. They don't display it on the login either.

joppykid
04-09-2013, 09:35 PM
Count me out then.

No, seriously. I must use /who count all commands like 30 times a day on p99.

It's not broken, it worked fine when I used it.

quido
04-09-2013, 09:36 PM
I think they would display it at server select if they knew how - most people would, but the public loginserver release doesn't contain such functionality.

Anderdale
04-09-2013, 09:39 PM
It's easy to switch back and forth between both servers too~

can you explain how i would do this? I would like to try it out but I want to be able to play p1999 still as well.

quido
04-09-2013, 09:40 PM
If you have the space, just keep two distinct installations and two shortcuts.

Noselacri
04-09-2013, 09:44 PM
You don't even need to install it twice, you can literally just copy-paste the folder and rename it.

Mortiiss
04-09-2013, 10:22 PM
pras epicemu.com

Hi Chellsea.

Mortiiss
04-09-2013, 10:23 PM
I fully support epicemu if it results in Chellsea going away.

Hey, don't be mean.

Kevynne
04-09-2013, 11:46 PM
I fully support epicemu if it results in Chellsea going away.

Hey, don't be mean.

Forgive me? :)

Also hum on epicemu @lauretta

Kevynne
04-09-2013, 11:50 PM
Launches in 10 minutes!

Inb4 debs delete

Anderdale
04-09-2013, 11:52 PM
boo

Naked
04-10-2013, 12:12 AM
boo

Naked
04-10-2013, 12:13 AM
xp is SO slow on the sleeper

Nune
04-10-2013, 12:13 AM
just logged into it, 53 people in Gfay alone. Good call on shitty pop guys.

Kevynne
04-10-2013, 12:14 AM
just logged into it, 53 people in Gfay alone. Good call on shitty pop guys.

Lol winning.

renordw
04-10-2013, 12:14 AM
Are manastones in the game?

Kevynne
04-10-2013, 12:15 AM
xp is SO slow on the sleeper

Lololol

Kevynne
04-10-2013, 12:16 AM
Yes.

renordw
04-10-2013, 12:25 AM
so, i dont see it on the eqemu screen?

Mortiiss
04-10-2013, 12:27 AM
Forgive me? :)

Also hum on epicemu @lauretta

Sure. :)

Taboo
04-10-2013, 12:51 AM
64 at one time in gfay already. Wonder what total numbers were for all zones ?

Kagatob
04-10-2013, 12:59 AM
So how's everything going on the new server? I'm stuck at work now and won't be able to get set up there for another 8 hours at least.

Kagatob
04-10-2013, 01:01 AM
so, i dont see it on the eqemu screen?

epicemu.com (www.epicemu.com)

Phats
04-10-2013, 01:11 AM
woot this is gonna be awesome been waiting for Velious FAR TOO LONG.

Phats
04-10-2013, 01:13 AM
Nice, already starting off stronger than p99 did. Can't wait to start raiding Velious!

Swish
04-10-2013, 01:24 AM
XP is slow, but not due to the lack of mobs as much as a huge XP nerf. Not sure what they're trying to achieve, takes 2 letters to Kelethin to get 1% XP and wasps/bats are 1% per kill each at level 1. Not how I remember Velious! I think they know they've screwed up, the beta was allowing 4 blues for the bard mail quest so they changed something purposely.

Also, met some P99 forum folks over there :D

King of the Hill...


http://i.imgur.com/pzfDcKr.jpg

Hailto
04-10-2013, 01:57 AM
Yeah not trying to grind to 60 again from level 1 if the xp is slower than p99

Innovative
04-10-2013, 02:03 AM
Was a couple hundred people on it but yeah xp seemed slow. Took an hour to get half way to level 2 in a duo. Devs said they know it's an issue but that's why they launched on Tuesday at midnight, so the kinks are ironed out by the weekend.

Hailto
04-10-2013, 02:11 AM
Are hybrid penalties in?

Reiker000
04-10-2013, 02:20 AM
2 hours to get about 10% into level 2... would be level 4-5ish by now on P99. Taking a break until they fix this shit.

Hailto
04-10-2013, 02:25 AM
Are hybrid penalties in? Confirm/deny

Swish
04-10-2013, 02:29 AM
Are hybrid penalties in? Confirm/deny

Someone suggested they were still in, probably an accident... devs couldn't run a piss up in a brewery it seems but I guess its day 1 and inevitable that something was going to go wrong :D

So many trolls in global OOC, people hating on me for my GIFs and all sorts :(

Hailto
04-10-2013, 02:32 AM
I like your GIFs you seem like a jolly old englishman

Kagatob
04-10-2013, 02:58 AM
I'm actually quite glad to be missing out tonight if things are that messed up. 1% to lvl 2 on a mail hand-in? At least you'll have a few hundred plat by lvl 3.

Nune
04-10-2013, 03:00 AM
lol, Lron confirmed mad about P99 life and banned for training my group in SF. Shits classic bros.

odiecat99
04-10-2013, 03:02 AM
In other news: IB members Reroll on Sleeper; Friday Celerbrates 'server first level 5' Reaction from the crowd was a bit hostile, with one person saying who gives a fuck

Swish
04-10-2013, 03:11 AM
XP now "fixed" but still slow as hell compared to here.

Would have been 200 mail hand ins to reach level 2 :D

Kevynne
04-10-2013, 03:21 AM
lol, Lron confirmed mad about P99 life and banned for training my group in SF. Shits classic bros.

Sup may beach Lauretta here.
Epicemu is100% better than here. Bugs were fixed very fast. Highest zone today was 84 in gfay

Kevynne
04-10-2013, 03:23 AM
Are hybrid penalties in? Confirm/deny

Deny. My pally leveling just as fast as my solo cleric.
Race penalty only

Kevynne
04-10-2013, 03:24 AM
2 hours to get about 10% into level 2... would be level 4-5ish by now on P99. Taking a break until they fix this shit.

Fixed it at 1ish am cst.

Swish stfu. I'm killing reds in full guild group and getting 20% Xperia per mob

Kevynne
04-10-2013, 03:26 AM
Server first level 2 pally right here.
Xperia fixed.
Join talisman.
Pars debs
Peas epicemu
Top in gray was 84

Deal with autocorrect.

Swish
04-10-2013, 03:27 AM
just logged into it, 53 people in Gfay alone. Good call on shitty pop guys.

Potentially 26 two boxers, I was the 53rd.

Sirken
04-10-2013, 03:28 AM
lets keep it in one thread

Kevynne
04-10-2013, 03:28 AM
Lol swish I saw you in felwithe!

Swish
04-10-2013, 04:02 AM
Lol swish I saw you in felwithe!

The dwarf's life was short lived, rerolled a halfling druid (never played a halfling or a druid before) :)

odiecat99
04-10-2013, 04:35 AM
IB fags 4 boxing in FoB

Swish
04-10-2013, 04:37 AM
IB fags 4 boxing in FoB

This is why you don't allow 2-boxing, its a gateway drug.

Swish
04-10-2013, 05:19 AM
^ heheh

Kagatob
04-10-2013, 05:30 AM
IB fags 4 boxing in FoB

This is why you don't allow 2-boxing, its a gateway drug.

im sure no one would take advantage of the "honor system" put in place by the devs there
lol

While I can't say with confidence whether or not what is said above is the norm, I can say with confidence that in my experience on servers that allow boxing (2.5 years on PEQ before P99 even existed and another 2 months on a localized progression server with pop under 100, again before P99 even existed.), I leveled a druid single box 1-65 without any issues finding a group/partner.

The only limitations that are set on you by not boxing are the limitations you decide to set for yourself, if you are a good enough player (your automatic condemnation hints that you at least believe you are good enough) you shouldn't need to feel that boxing is a problem or a threat. It's not like they're promoting the use of MQ or SEQ like PEQ did which I personally was not fond of since among a plethora of other things, it made both tracking and pvp retarded.

I'm happy that Sleeper is going to draw the line at 2 characters per player as that's the number of characters I had most been comfortable playing on the servers that did allow boxing, I know this because after attempting to 3box on PEQ I had ultimately decided to leave the 3rd character in the bazaar since it was seriously effecting how well I was playing the characters not to mention ruining the immersion factors since I refused to use MQ/SEQ to 'smoothe' things over.

That in the end is the whole point though, they drew the line at 2, they also deemed MQ/SEQ banworthy, so there won't be gigantic bot armies that plagued servers like PEQ. Sure raiding the Plane of Fire that one time with 3 humans (my 2 and a husband/wife combo's 28) was fun, but the novelty of it didn't last and the following raid with 20+ humans was much more fulfilling and if I had to choose between the two I'd pick the latter every time without hesitation.

Kagatob
04-10-2013, 06:23 AM
it allows 4 toons per IP

Indeed, which is why my girlfriend gets to play and one or both of us has the option to box a second character in the event that we decide to do so.
What's your point?

Tradesonred
04-10-2013, 06:35 AM
Before i waste time with this

Xp loss in pvp?

Kagatob
04-10-2013, 06:55 AM
a lot of people are just playing 4 characters themselves and using ISboxer which they have no detection for

Prove it.

also u have a girlfriend who not only plays everquest, but boxes everquest toons with you?

yea right

First off, where did I say that she boxes toons? Reading comprehension for the fail.

Secondly when I was on PEQ there were 4 husband/wife groups in my guild alone that boxed 6 or more characters each.

Just because you have shitty luck with the ladies doesn't mean that everyone else is. :rolleyes:

Tradesonred
04-10-2013, 07:05 AM
a lot of people are just playing 4 characters themselves and using ISboxer which they have no detection for

also u have a girlfriend who not only plays everquest, but boxes everquest toons with you?

yea right

lol 2013 for the win

Women drive buses? GET OUTTA HERE

Tecmos Deception
04-10-2013, 07:20 AM
Boxing :(

Faerie Blossom
04-10-2013, 07:50 AM
Before i waste time with this

Xp loss in pvp?

There is no xp loss in pvp, presumably because there is no pvp :(

Kagatob
04-10-2013, 08:32 AM
lol my level 3 halfling war just soloed a redcon mob naked with a short sword, got 35% exp through a level

seems legit

Where's your fraps?

Swish
04-10-2013, 08:50 AM
After playing for a session:-

+ Nice to experience a fresh server.
+ Tried a race/class combo I've never played before (never played a halfling or a druid ever)
+ Global /ooc kept people chatting.
+ Tons of people that are easily trolled and get mad :D
+ They want to move on to Luclin, PoP etc if a vote from the community supports it (would be good, IF its done properly)

- People already abusing the "2-boxing allowed" rule by boxing with more.
- Translocators on the docks in Freeport/OOT/BB - not a fan, even if it is a big time saver.
- Mob movement speed seems too quick.
- A handful of other bugs (including the Oggok forge not working and other stuff like it)
- No GMs online to deal with what was obviously going to be a problematic first 24 hours.
- No patches. On the patch timeline, they're already on the final "version" of Velious according to numerous people.

Overall: Doesn't compare to P99, and if the game is being made easier and easier - I'm all too happy to wait til the Winter or 2014 for it to be released here :)

Good luck to everyone that's having a go at it over there...boxers if nobody else have certainly found a home.

Tecmos Deception
04-10-2013, 09:02 AM
It was entertaining-ish to start a character (yes A character, fuck boxing) on here, but mostly just because of the random stuff that is different from what I'm used to. Meditate at level 1, level 2 mobs with 50 hp, gate guards that apparently hit for about 50, only making 3 gold in the time it took me to make 3 (I only saw one decaying skeleton with a weapon and I must have killed 20+ of them, none with pack drops, only got like 12 bonechips and a handful of copper), bunches of non-classic features like find and compass and starting off with a backpack and bandages and other little random crap like that. But it would have been just as entertaining, imo, to start a non-twink on p99, since the mechanics would be correct and the bugs few and far between.


As much as Chellsea claims the pop is fine, there are only 100 characters online right now less /role and /anon, I guess, and probably half of those are being boxed... so you're looking at MAYBE 100 actual players.

I know it's only 9 am est, but this is 9 hours after the server launch. This should be the highest pop 9 am the server ever sees. And yet it currently has only about 1/3 the players online that p99 blue has.

Kagatob
04-10-2013, 09:20 AM
It's somewhat concerning that there's absolutely 0 (ok one post) activity on the forums 9 hours after the grand opening...

rsloans84
04-10-2013, 10:21 AM
On live eq there was hardly any people agruing with each other etc it was usually guild leader and guild leader the way it should be

Stinkum
04-10-2013, 11:44 AM
lol my level 3 halfling war just soloed a redcon mob naked with a short sword, got 35% exp through a level

seems legit

Yeah that didn't happen.

You are weirdly obsessed with making random shit up to try and discredit the Sleeper. Shit is just for fun, don't feel threatened because of the no-lifer 1,000s of hours you've invested in R99 in unemployment.

Some people's immersion is just too damn high.

Noselacri
04-10-2013, 11:53 AM
I submitted a long list of bugs a couple of months ago, things like the fact that mobs don't start fleeing until like 7% and other similar shit. Kegz said it was all being worked on or already fixed on the test server. Now I see that literally nothing on that list had been fixed, and he plainly lied about it to avoid having to do it. For a dev crew that claimed to have secret authentic documentation of classic stuff and have been in development since 2011, it sure is a garbage server when it comes to bugs and being classic. There's something wrong with basically everything.

Innovative
04-10-2013, 12:09 PM
a lot of people are just playing 4 characters themselves and using ISboxer which they have no detection for

also u have a girlfriend who not only plays everquest, but boxes everquest toons with you?

yea right

You must be living in a bubble where facts cannot penetrate.

Endoku
04-10-2013, 12:46 PM
Was just there left in 10 minutes...Lots of unclassic going on was hopeful but fail. Anyone remember exp rate? I hear it was right at first now I don't know whats up cuz half a blue bubble per kill at level 1 is insane 50 kills to get to level 2 also cracked staffs supposed to be 1p sometimes 9g with low cha or whatever 6g there extra skeletons with hardly any weapons and goodluck buying any spells with that kinda stuff just saying it still needs a lot of works and I don't think anyone will change anything. It's just like here gl getting a dev to do ANYTHING YOU WANT to their servers they just plain don't care. Oh well back to games that work.Was an Enchanter but doubtfull I'll even try that one again.

Kruel
04-10-2013, 01:49 PM
Was just there left in 10 minutes...Lots of unclassic going on was hopeful but fail. Anyone remember exp rate? I hear it was right at first now I don't know whats up cuz half a blue bubble per kill at level 1 is insane 50 kills to get to level 2 also cracked staffs supposed to be 1p sometimes 9g with low cha or whatever 6g there extra skeletons with hardly any weapons and goodluck buying any spells with that kinda stuff just saying it still needs a lot of works and I don't think anyone will change anything. It's just like here gl getting a dev to do ANYTHING YOU WANT to their servers they just plain don't care. Oh well back to games that work.Was an Enchanter but doubtfull I'll even try that one again.

apparently you were not here the first couple months on P99. We had some problems but everything gets corrected in time. Enjoy it for what it is worth and look past a couple cracked staffs. They are working on everything and so far it isnt to shabby. Although I do agree all these things need to get changed asap

Treats
04-10-2013, 01:49 PM
Tried playing there this morning.

Experience rate was somewhat close to accurate after they bumped it up a couple hours after they launched it. Patched again a couple hours ago and it is now almost unbearable at Level 6.

If they cannot get the Experience right or even acknowledge that there is a problem, it gives me little to no faith in anything else getting fixed.

Other problems I encountered up to level 6:

Flee Rate
Post Luclin NPCs in game
Post Luclin Quests in game and working
Post Luclin NPCs having post Luclin loot
Some GUI stuff still enabled
Forums difficult to navigate through
Global OOC enabled (This is never used for it was meant to be for)

Overall just not a great experience.

Plenty of trolls there though if you are into that sort of thing.

Doubt I will try again, rather just wait for Velious here. I'm pretty confident Nilbog and others will do a fantastic job just as with Kunark.

senna
04-10-2013, 01:51 PM
I have less than 2 hours played and I just hit level 4

not sure if thats classic or not but its been easy as fuck for me

Stinkum
04-10-2013, 02:53 PM
shut up faggot my level 3 halfling warrior Tyrionn did slay "a large misty thicket rat" who was a red con with nothing but a short sword and my experience bar moved more then a quarter through my level

its a shit server dog, deal with it


Aww, look at how cute it is to watch the unemployed kid lash out because he feels threatened by another EQ server.

I know the illusion of permanent pixels after you invested 1,000 hours in Red99 shattering must be painful for you.

Telron
04-10-2013, 05:12 PM
and yes my first toon was an iksar war and tons of people were 4 boxing in FoB and joking about it

due to lack of mobs is why i changed to the halfling war then realized how doo doo the coding was

Did you report them? If not you are the problem :cool: not the server. Well see how the boxing shakes out in the coming months and see who is banned.

Swish
04-10-2013, 05:36 PM
Give it a week... see how many are still playing and divide the population by 2. Probably an accurate assessment. Way more in faith in Rogean/Nilbog to do the business here, and I'd venture to say that a Velious release here might just kill that server off.

The only real thing its got going for it is the server is new. Definitely poorly managed, I hate to think how bad it was in the beta and as someone rightly said that Kegz hasn't fixed a bunch of fundamental things that need fixing.

SamwiseRed
04-10-2013, 06:05 PM
Give it a week... see how many are still playing and divide the population by 2. Probably an accurate assessment. Way more in faith in Rogean/Nilbog to do the business here, and I'd venture to say that a Velious release here might just kill that server off.

The only real thing its got going for it is the server is new. Definitely poorly managed, I hate to think how bad it was in the beta and as someone rightly said that Kegz hasn't fixed a bunch of fundamental things that need fixing.

i dont think any server can be more poorly managed than the first year of red99. sirken the only thing keeping the server together atm.

Faerie Blossom
04-10-2013, 07:29 PM
If they're going up to PoP, no reason not to just play EQMac instead imo.

SamwiseRed
04-10-2013, 07:40 PM
youd be surprised how many people dont play eqmac because you cant scroll out :)

Nips
04-10-2013, 07:45 PM
These guys really don't know nearly enough about EQ for this server to be successful. I predict it'll be dead in a months time

Drob
04-10-2013, 08:53 PM
you guys know mouse scroll is not classic right?

getsome
04-10-2013, 09:06 PM
After a week on eqmac you will not care about scroll. Plenty of ways to adjust.

odiecat99
04-10-2013, 09:30 PM
Boxing :(

I seen tecmos boxing in HS the other day.

odiecat99
04-10-2013, 09:30 PM
lol main reason I dont.

also this server was a let down earlier, might try again in a few days

bouncer gets banned from every server he play on trollolol

Tecmos Deception
04-10-2013, 09:43 PM
I seen tecmos boxing in HS the other day.

As if I need to box to kill anything in HS :p

SamwiseRed
04-10-2013, 09:45 PM
you guys know mouse scroll is not classic right?

yup reported that shit a long time ago in bugs, not a single fuck was given

SamwiseRed
04-10-2013, 09:57 PM
if i was a bluebie i would totally goto new server. being able to spawn raid mobs and not poopsock is a pretty good idea. noone is playing blue to "compete" (out poopsock) unless they have no RL. is it classic? nah but we are playing an emu in 2014, server firsts and competition was 14 years ago.

Faerie Blossom
04-10-2013, 10:09 PM
And Eqmac isnt fuckin classic so what was the point of saying that?

I started at kunark launch and scroll was workin, I'm use to playing scrolled out.

You did not scroll out in Kunark. I think that was PoP or later.

SamwiseRed
04-10-2013, 10:13 PM
i dont even think my mouse had a scroll wheel back then lol

SamwiseRed
04-10-2013, 10:19 PM
back then you had to use f9 to get 3rd person. tbh red99 was the first time i use scroll out. even when it was available on live, i still played in first person.

arsenalpow
04-10-2013, 10:20 PM
Exp is brutally slow there even after the "fix"

Faerie Blossom
04-10-2013, 10:38 PM
Nah, im pretty sure you could zoom out using ALT + cursor keys or if you had a mouse wheel around that time.

Nope.

SamwiseRed
04-10-2013, 10:46 PM
Xp sounds classic there

Tradesonred
04-10-2013, 11:03 PM
Do you lose xp when you die in pvp?

Im willing to play on a server half as fast as red99 if it means i can spend 80% of my time pvping

Faerie Blossom
04-10-2013, 11:08 PM
Do you lose xp when you die in pvp?

Im willing to play on a server half as fast as red99 if it means i can spend 80% of my time pvping

There is no pvp.

Phats
04-11-2013, 12:16 AM
tis fun on the sleeper

Razdeline
04-11-2013, 12:17 AM
slow leveling, but pretty much p99 with velious.

Kevynne
04-11-2013, 01:08 AM
It was entertaining-ish to start a character (yes A character, fuck boxing) on here, but mostly just because of the random stuff that is different from what I'm used to. Meditate at level 1, level 2 mobs with 50 hp, gate guards that apparently hit for about 50, only making 3 gold in the time it took me to make 3 (I only saw one decaying skeleton with a weapon and I must have killed 20+ of them, none with pack drops, only got like 12 bonechips and a handful of copper), bunches of non-classic features like find and compass and starting off with a backpack and bandages and other little random crap like that. But it would have been just as entertaining, imo, to start a non-twink on p99, since the mechanics would be correct and the bugs few and far between.


As much as Chellsea claims the pop is fine, there are only 100 characters online right now less /role and /anon, I guess, and probably half of those are being boxed... so you're looking at MAYBE 100 actual players.

I know it's only 9 am est, but this is 9 hours after the server launch. This should be the highest pop 9 am the server ever sees. And yet it currently has only about 1/3 the players online that p99 blue has.

Pop earlier today at 6pm cst was 216. Suck it.

Kevynne
04-11-2013, 01:12 AM
Stop saying its too slow. You're used to sittin on ec getting super buffed as a level 1 twink and raping an entire Orc camp. Xp is fine there. Devs said solo xp is a bit broken ATM, but group do was just fine.

Innovative
04-11-2013, 01:34 AM
Had a great time playing today. Solo exp did seem slow, probably due to lack of gear. Having a rusty sword and a few pieces of cloth won't get you far. When I started grouping though we had 6 at the Orc hill in gfay and yellow/reds seemed to give 1/2 blue per kill. Works for me!

Treats
04-11-2013, 01:46 AM
Stop saying its too slow. You're used to sittin on ec getting super buffed as a level 1 twink and raping an entire Orc camp. Xp is fine there. Devs said solo xp is a bit broken ATM, but group do was just fine.

Experience doesn't change per mob due to buffs, godamn.

Killing 100 yellow con mobs to level from 6 to 7 in a two person group is not slow?

Maybe when a few players get 51+ they will actually figure out it's totally fucked.

Telron
04-11-2013, 03:53 AM
Experience doesn't change per mob due to buffs, godamn.

Killing 100 yellow con mobs to level from 6 to 7 in a two person group is not slow?

Maybe when a few players get 51+ they will actually figure out it's totally fucked.

XP was definitely adjusted around 8pm pst. It actually feels a lot like I remember. But ya I think what he meant was the kill rate is much slower her as our weapons suck. The 1-10 game was definitely slow as molasses on launch and is still a bit slow. But its honestly not that bad.

P.S. This is from me in Misty Thicket (not a hot zone) which the hot zones received some love I guess around the same time but I cannot comment on how much.

Kevynne
04-11-2013, 08:28 AM
in the patch they fixed the hot zones and made all the hot zones hot now C:

and my info coems from steamfont (and 2 hours in gfay) with full groups(grouping bonus here is massive) killing yellow,whit,and blue kobolds; and then even red and yellow orcs.
either way;
4 hours played->5pally 4cleric

Sirken
04-11-2013, 12:06 PM
Pop earlier today at 6pm cst was 216. Suck it.

so in actual bodies, 108?

or 54, depending how many peoples "girlfriends" are 2 boxing with them.


<3

quido
04-11-2013, 12:10 PM
I wonder how many people aren't boxing.

fohkure
04-11-2013, 12:15 PM
Stop saying its too slow. You're used to sittin on ec getting super buffed as a level 1 twink and raping an entire Orc camp. Xp is fine there. Devs said solo xp is a bit broken ATM, but group do was just fine.

Xp today seems much more accurate. When the server went live, it was definitely not correct.

It's been fun playing something a little different. There are definitely issues over there, but they have brought the server down several times since it opened, so hopefully they will get most things fixed. Mobs deathwalking at 7%, mobs movement speed to fast, and I believe agi is dropping at 30% and not 20% (I'm not certain about that, but it seems like that's what's happening) are some big issues without yet getting out of the newb zones.

I love P99 and won't be quiting it for this server by any stretch, but it's fun to do something a little different. I'd love to see AA's, Beastlords, and VT/SSRA/Planes raiding.

Chris

fohkure
04-11-2013, 12:17 PM
I wonder how many people aren't boxing.

I've wondered the same. It seems like there are quite a few actually. I see several groups that move around without toons auto-following each other. I definitely see A LOT of little two man tank/healer auto-following groups though.

I've been boxing a shaman/warrior personally. Feels just like live again! LOL!

Chris

arsenalpow
04-11-2013, 12:30 PM
I wonder how many people aren't boxing.

I'm not

Thulack
04-11-2013, 12:50 PM
I'm not

same. well til i can get home from where i am and back to my dual monitor setup. You people make it seem like boxing kills things. Same complaint as on live for the last 13 YEARS. How long will it take for boxing to actually kill the game?

Swish
04-11-2013, 01:08 PM
Crashed zoning into BB from the dock translocator yesterday. Logged back in just now for a laugh and found myself in TD.

Serious bugs...comical :D

Sirken
04-11-2013, 01:29 PM
I wonder how many people aren't boxing.

i just think its humorous that R99 hits 200 peak without boxing, and the players refer to the server as dead, buried, and rotting in the ground.

but this server hits 218 with 4boxing, and it is thriving?

/boggle


in seriousness i wish them all the luck in the world. from what ive heard, its more or less a stock PEQ database from the eqemu, with a few minor changes to recipies, turnins, loot tables.

the road ahead is long and hard, and filled with self inflicted wounds. but just do a bit of work every day, and she'll get there, good luck!

feanan
04-11-2013, 01:39 PM
Wonder what the population of p99 was on day one? I wasn't here, so can't comment.

How many IP exemptions on p99? How many "girlfriends" sitting in ec tunnel while boyfriends off playing? Don't make it seem like no two boxing going on here either.

Num1RecommendedByDentists
04-11-2013, 01:55 PM
p99 had like 100 people day one if i remember correctly

Sirken
04-11-2013, 01:56 PM
Wonder what the population of p99 was on day one? I wasn't here, so can't comment.

How many IP exemptions on p99? How many "girlfriends" sitting in ec tunnel while boyfriends off playing? Don't make it seem like no two boxing going on here either.

i was here on day 1 to reserve some names, dunno what population was. probably would have been higher if we had an existing successful server's message board/community to leach players from.

we have records for all ip exemptions, and every single day we ban people for 2boxing. i'd bet both of my lungs to one of your kidneys that at any given time theres no more than 5-10 people 2boxing on p99 (at the time of this writing, theres 1 person two boxing on blue and 0 on red)


but please, continue to speculate based on your fact-less assumptions :)

Swish
04-11-2013, 02:06 PM
^ That is why P99 will always be a better place to play.

Sirken
04-11-2013, 02:09 PM
Kruel, i had to delete your post because of the picture. i posted something i shouldnt have because i wasnt thinking.

my apologies

Kruel
04-11-2013, 02:16 PM
Kruel, i had to delete your post because of the picture. i posted something i shouldnt have because i wasnt thinking.

my apologies

No worries bud!

Nune
04-11-2013, 02:29 PM
i was here on day 1 to reserve some names, dunno what population was. probably would have been higher if we had an existing successful server's message board/community to leach players from.

we have records for all ip exemptions, and every single day we ban people for 2boxing. i'd bet both of my lungs to one of your kidneys that at any given time theres no more than 5-10 people 2boxing on p99 (at the time of this writing, theres 1 person two boxing on blue and 0 on red)


but please, continue to speculate based on your fact-less assumptions :)

Like.. Live Everquest? rofl.

Edit: And isnt one of the staff still active in FoH on live? One of the more famous MMO guilds evar?

Nune
04-11-2013, 02:36 PM
Server's fun. XP is a bit on the slow side in general, but i dont see too many people stressing now that the devs found a happy medium. Day 1 involved most of the forumwarriors and hollywood famous banned all-stars from here getting on and spamming global ooc about how bad the server sucked then logged.

The best part, for me? Being able to talk about all the shit you get banned for even mentioning here, seeing screenshots, emails, forum posts about what I really suspected went on behind the pixels on these servers but never got a chance to see before GM's removed it. There were obviously a few people bitter about getting burned by the staff/top tier raiding guilds here and used Sleeper's global /ooc as their medium for vengeance, but nonetheless it was very amusing.

Sirken
04-11-2013, 02:41 PM
Like.. Live Everquest? rofl.

Edit: And isnt one of the staff still active in FoH on live? One of the more famous MMO guilds evar?

yea, cause at the time 11year old EQLive was just busting at the seams with players that wished life was harder and that wanted P99

also, p99 wasnt allowed to advertise on sony boards. derp

but hey, i guess we are just nicer than they were ;)

Nune
04-11-2013, 03:05 PM
yea, cause at the time 11year old EQLive was just busting at the seams with players that wished life was harder and that wanted P99

also, p99 wasnt allowed to advertise on sony boards. derp

but hey, i guess we are just nicer than they were ;)

Haha for sure, /agree with ya there. In their defense, their guides and GMs asked specifically for people to not use P99 forums and game to recruit, despite people doing it anyways.

The fact that there hasnt been a single MQ/SEq ban yet makes me sad, they obviously aren't even on your guys' levels there. Idk.. the boxing thing just bothers me. Box + token = a different end game then i think people are realistic about. + i mean XP wasnt turned on when the server launched, my faith in a working raid is shook.

feanan
04-11-2013, 03:23 PM
Hey Sirken, I wasn't attacking P99, I'm just saying...kind of hard to compare a day one server to one that has been around for years.

I wasn't on P99 on day one, but was only a few months behind, and lets just say...P99 hasn't always been the gem it is now :)

feanan
04-11-2013, 03:26 PM
I also find it somewhat amusing that you are going to call me out for my guesses about two boxers on p99

"continue to speculate based on your fact-less assumptions"

when you are doing the exact same thing, basically implying that everyone is 4 boxing there.

Besides which, I think the boxing on p99 is more like ec mules staying logged in, and logging in other toons for ports, buffs, rezes etc.

Not one guy running his group in seb or whatever

Nips
04-11-2013, 04:21 PM
Server's fun. XP is a bit on the slow side in general, but i dont see too many people stressing now that the devs found a happy medium. Day 1 involved most of the forumwarriors and hollywood famous banned all-stars from here getting on and spamming global ooc about how bad the server sucked then logged.

The best part, for me? Being able to talk about all the shit you get banned for even mentioning here, seeing screenshots, emails, forum posts about what I really suspected went on behind the pixels on these servers but never got a chance to see before GM's removed it. There were obviously a few people bitter about getting burned by the staff/top tier raiding guilds here and used Sleeper's global /ooc as their medium for vengeance, but nonetheless it was very amusing.

Ppl complained about the server because it WAS bad, not because they just wanted to complain or whatever. It would of taken me 10-12 hours to get from 7-8 soloing yellows and reds in misty. In comparison, it took me 5 days played to get to 45 on red p99, and I played from the start. On sleeper, that means it would take 20 days plus played to get to the same level as I was on red, and thats not assuming that every level beyond level 7 is a lot more difficult than level 7 plus the fact that its a blue server and you don't spend hours on end on pvp. Lots of people came wanting a good server to mess around on and quit pretty quickly. The worst part of it all was all of the people who seemed to want to defend the server no matter what even though it was obvious the server was f'd. I'm sure the server already lost a lot of people that will never come back.

Kevynne
04-11-2013, 04:26 PM
so in actual bodies, 108?

or 54, depending how many peoples "girlfriends" are 2 boxing with them.


<3

try the server, there is surprisingly alot of people by themselves.
and even then, if boxing the boxer will log a toon to give you a spot in group.

Kevynne
04-11-2013, 04:27 PM
Wonder what the population of p99 was on day one? I wasn't here, so can't comment.

How many IP exemptions on p99? How many "girlfriends" sitting in ec tunnel while boyfriends off playing? Don't make it seem like no two boxing going on here either.

i know many people on p99 have/did box most left cus they found other servers where they could box classic w/o punishments

Bill Tetley
04-11-2013, 04:28 PM
Couldn't really get the theme behind the server... Is it suppose to be classic with some customization? It was fun at first but then I started getting rewards from quests that shouldn't really be on a 'classic' server... or there would be parts of a zone that are not classic. I feel like the server is very exploitable. Not going to invest major time on the server for I fear it's population may die out, especially when Velious is released on p99. Will get a druid high enough to plvl some characters to 14ish to bind them at firepots then call it.

Kevynne
04-11-2013, 04:30 PM
Server's fun. XP is a bit on the slow side in general, but i dont see too many people stressing now that the devs found a happy medium. Day 1 involved most of the forumwarriors and hollywood famous banned all-stars from here getting on and spamming global ooc about how bad the server sucked then logged.

The best part, for me? Being able to talk about all the shit you get banned for even mentioning here, seeing screenshots, emails, forum posts about what I really suspected went on behind the pixels on these servers but never got a chance to see before GM's removed it. There were obviously a few people bitter about getting burned by the staff/top tier raiding guilds here and used Sleeper's global /ooc as their medium for vengeance, but nonetheless it was very amusing.

server is pras because maybach is in my guild.

also that entire 2nd paragraph


sirken; i'd suggest you try out the server before you go saying L:OLBADBECAUSECOMPETITION. (no offense, cus i feel you're the only dev actually helping here.)

also p99 leached people from peq forums (thats how my brother and i found it) and at launch it only had 100-150 people

Elderan
04-11-2013, 04:42 PM
This server shows how bad people want Velious to come out.

P99 will lose 20-30% of its population because of it. What we really need is a real time frame on when Velious will come out here.

Anderdale
04-11-2013, 04:45 PM
I hope when velious comes out they have that event again where you can loot a guise or manastone. Until then I and going to try the new server

Anderdale
04-11-2013, 04:48 PM
And the boxing does kill it for me. Mainly because I don't have the ability to box (my pc can't handle it) so i feel like I am behind everyone else who does box.

Raavak
04-11-2013, 05:07 PM
I hope when velious comes out they have that event again where you can loot a guise or manastone.I think they should do an event like this every year to re-introduce these items. Since the progress of the server is frozen in time, yet real life goes on the number of artifact items in daily use declines to below Classic levels :/

Over a long enough timeline P1999 becomes a Classic server with no guises, manastones, Thex daggers, Box of Abu-Kars...

Sirken
04-11-2013, 05:10 PM
Haha for sure, /agree with ya there. In their defense, their guides and GMs asked specifically for people to not use P99 forums and game to recruit, despite people doing it anyways. The fact that there hasnt been a single MQ/SEq ban yet makes me sad, they obviously aren't even on your guys' levels there. Idk.. the boxing thing just bothers me. Box + token = a different end game then i think people are realistic about. + i mean XP wasnt turned on when the server launched, my faith in a working raid is shook.
i wasnt trying to put their devs on blast as much as i was simply pointing out differences. if u remember correctly, it took p99 quite a while to get a real MQ detector (and fwiw, dating to feb 08, going back across multiple staffs for multiple servers, ive never seen a better one than Rogean's).

Hey Sirken, I wasn't attacking P99, I'm just saying...kind of hard to compare a day one server to one that has been around for years.
I wasn't on P99 on day one, but was only a few months behind, and lets just say...P99 hasn't always been the gem it is now :)
agreed

I also find it somewhat amusing that you are going to call me out for my guesses about two boxers on p99
"continue to speculate based on your fact-less assumptions"
when you are doing the exact same thing, basically implying that everyone is 4 boxing there. Besides which, I think the boxing on p99 is more like ec mules staying logged in, and logging in other toons for ports, buffs, rezes etc.
Not one guy running his group in seb or whatever
P99 is not my first rodeo. im basing my opinions off of the previous 5 years of being on different EQEmu server staffs. people risk being banned here if they get caught boxing, and they do it anyway, so of course they will do it there. 2boxing (and cheating in general) in EQ is like steroids in baseball. a couple do it, then a couple more do it to keep up with the stars, eventually everyone is doing it or they get left behind.

try the server, ...
i would if it was on EQemulator. it would be nice to be able to play EQ.

I hope when velious comes out they have that event again where you can loot a guise or manastone. Until then I and going to try the new server
look, we could release velious today if we didnt give a shit about making sure it worked and was as classic as possible. VZTZ, and LoZ had/have velious. the problem is that they keep re-releasing the same stock borked version of velious. nilbog recently took me on a tour of velious, and i can tell you that even incomplete, our velious is the most functional one i've seen since EQLive. VZTZsVelious and LoZsVelious dont even compare. if you seriously do not believe that, go try any emu server with velious and report back to me.

Anderdale
04-11-2013, 05:15 PM
look, we could release velious today if we didnt give a shit about making sure it worked and was as classic as possible. VZTZ, and LoZ had/have velious. the problem is that they keep re-releasing the same stock borked version of velious. nilbog recently took me on a tour of velious, and i can tell you that even incomplete, our velious is the most functional one i've seen since EQLive. VZTZsVelious and LoZsVelious dont even compare. if you seriously do not believe that, go try any emu server with velious and report back to me.

Not saying i want you guys to rush velious out. I was just saying I hope that when it is released that there is chance that event will happen again. The only reason i am even tempted by this new server is the chance of being able to get some of the gear that will be taken out at a later date (mainly a guise). I am happy y'all take your time and appreciate that. However, please consider doing that event again!

Sirken
04-11-2013, 05:19 PM
we have events every 60 days or so, they are rare on purpose. people show up if they dont know when the next one will be ;)

but a guise(s) is usually always rewarded.

it is known. (<- because ASOIAF/GOT quotes make everything better) :)

Lazortag
04-11-2013, 05:28 PM
Just a bit of a PSA: if you criticize this server at all, you are automatically butthurt/jealous/nuthugging the p99 staff. There is no way anyone could possibly have a legitimate criticism of this server, as so many posters in this thread have confirmed. Repeat: this server is perfect and has absolutely no bugs, and nothing bad could possibly be said of it.

SamwiseRed
04-11-2013, 05:35 PM
the main turn off for this server (at least the only one ill mention for fear of ban hammer) is the raiding scene. people dont play on here to relive poopsocking. at least, i hope not. this server allows people to relive classic eq. noone with a life is going to be able to compete here on the level some people take it. clearly blue99 needs to figure out something or open up a new server. p99 is way too damn top heavy for just kunark and classic.

another one of the things i dont understand is some of the nerfs/changes that are made according to timeline. why punish new players by not allowing them to camp their own pair of jboots in najena or their own guise in lguk? what is the point of following the live timeline? i mean you are eventually going to stop. open up firepots to everyone, let people experience all classic has to offer.

all in all, even if it isnt perfect (im not playing either so i dunno how bad or good it is) new servers will always be fun. everyone on the same playing field nice once in awhile.

Sirken
04-11-2013, 05:39 PM
Just a bit of a PSA: There is no way anyone could possibly have a legitimate criticism of this server, this server is perfect and has absolutely no bugs, and nothing bad could possibly be said of it.
sig worthy imo

SamwiseRed
04-11-2013, 05:42 PM
that uthgaard sig you have is one of my fav

love uthgaard, dude as said some seriously funny shit to people he doesnt like in eve

i would share but classified top secret

Fame
04-11-2013, 05:44 PM
Already made a few accounts with a bunch of names from the rich and famous fucks here and on red. Let the bidding begin!

Auvdar
04-11-2013, 10:42 PM
that uthgaard sig you have is one of my fav

love uthgaard, dude as said some seriously funny shit to people he doesnt like in eve

i would share but classified top secret

"classified top secret" = you know jack shit.

Wanted to try this server, but reading all the negatives about it makes me pass.

Stinkum
04-11-2013, 11:27 PM
I think that Anderdale guy has mentioned how badly he wants a guise at least 30 times in this thread alone. People are pathetic. Turning into a Dark Elf won't make EQ fun for you. And if you want to be a Dark Elf so badly then just make one, doof.

Anderdale
04-11-2013, 11:46 PM
I think that Anderdale guy has mentioned how badly he wants a guise at least 30 times in this thread alone. People are pathetic. Turning into a Dark Elf won't make EQ fun for you. And if you want to be a Dark Elf so badly then just make one, doof.

at least? there is no way i mentioned it 30 times sir! i demand proof.

Anderdale
04-12-2013, 12:41 AM
so my corpse just poofed.. sitting here and no gm.. forced to log

Kevynne
04-12-2013, 12:46 AM
so my corpse just poofed.. sitting here and no gm.. forced to log

This happened to my pally today in ec while the cb zl was broken. Kegs summoned it immediately.

Kevynne
04-12-2013, 12:49 AM
*in cb.. Not ec

Swish
04-12-2013, 01:36 AM
I'll admit I logged in on the server again tonight. Something quite cannibalistic about knowing the path from L7 to L8 is ridiculously hard for what it should be... but not being able to turn the challenge down :(

odiecat99
04-12-2013, 02:16 AM
you smoke rocks while i shit on your face.


sup?

shut your whore mouth you tool :)

Anderdale
04-12-2013, 02:45 AM
This happened to my pally today in ec while the cb zl was broken. Kegs summoned it immediately.

yeah not long after i posted he came and got it for me. pretty impressed with how fast they are to help and such.

odiecat99
04-12-2013, 02:49 AM
yeah not long after i posted he came and got it for me. pretty impressed with how fast they are to help and such.

how long is that going to last?

keep it real man

fohkure
04-12-2013, 05:16 AM
I guess it's naive to think that we can like both servers and everyone gets along :D

Props to devs on both servers. None of the devs are gaining a whole lot from either server except for giving all of us nerds a chance to relive past experiences. If p99 or the Sleeper server were both complete crap, I'd still appreciate the time and effort you guys put into making it happen.

I'm about as far from a hippie love child as a person can get, but I have a lot of love for all of you! The entire population on both servers is still a HUGE niche that you guys are catering to. Kudos to you all!

Chris

fennixad
04-12-2013, 07:53 AM
Hi there, ive seen many people is moving to the new server (epicemu), a server where u can duo box and enjoy velious. Project1999 had 1k ppl on prime time, now its 650-750 on prime time.
I dont like to people spread on server, i think its useless having 200 servers all in low population.
Srly, you should say if velious will come or not and ofc when its gonna happen ;).
I dont like this, but i think this server is going to die :(

Itap
04-12-2013, 07:55 AM
I dont like this, but i think this server is going to die :(

lol no

Safon
04-12-2013, 07:56 AM
Poor troll? Or dim witted mongoloid?

You decide

Jenni D
04-12-2013, 08:05 AM
Some pity here as English clearly isn't the OP's first language

fennixad
04-12-2013, 08:15 AM
Sorry for my bad english. Safon just respect people.
Im not a troll, just asking because i just started to play project1999 3 weeks ago.
I dont think im gonna move. Just asking people what they think.

Safon
04-12-2013, 08:16 AM
Bah, apologies then friend

Raavak
04-12-2013, 08:21 AM
I haven't noticed a difference. Word is epicemu has "issues".

Tecmos Deception
04-12-2013, 08:23 AM
He makes a bunch of unsubstantiated claims, tells the staff how they should run their server, and then draws a ridiculous conclusion from his grapevine knowledge of this server and how it runs. Then he says "Oh sorry, I was just asking a question!" when he did not ask any questions even though I'm quite sure he knows how to. Did I mention that he apparently thinks he knows the ins and outs of the server after having only been here a few weeks?

The things that are wrong with what this guy is saying can't be attributed to poor knowledge of English.

SamwiseRed
04-12-2013, 08:26 AM
^takes his emulated eq server waaaay too seriously lol

Doors
04-12-2013, 08:31 AM
Release the kraken (velious).

Tecmos Deception
04-12-2013, 08:32 AM
Sam, you've spent more time on the forums than I've spent ingame :p

fennixad
04-12-2013, 08:34 AM
Nice to hear that tecmos, i was really scared :)

username17
04-12-2013, 08:44 AM
There will always be distractions that lower population from time.
Stick with it. You won't regret it.

NoWaiJ
04-12-2013, 10:52 AM
poorly masked advertisement thread should just be deleted.

Kieu
04-12-2013, 11:00 AM
Project1999 had 1k ppl on prime time, now its 650-750 on prime time.

At what point at any point in this week has the prime been 650-750? I've never heard of such malarkey.

SamwiseRed
04-12-2013, 11:01 AM
Sam, you've spent more time on the forums than I've spent ingame :p

that could be possible.

stormlord
04-12-2013, 11:44 AM
If epicemu or whatever it's is anything like Project EQ then ti's doubtful that its loot/mob database is anything like velious was when it was live. IMHO, the fact that project1999 goes out of its way to be accurate adds legitimacy and endurance to the experience. It ensures that p1999 has a draw.

But I do think people will go to other emu servers for periods of time just to goof around and box. I do see them coming back sooner or later, since p1999 is the only way to get (accurate) classic eq.

I wanted to point this out because the database differences are rather hard not to notice.

I will rescind my statements if it turns out that epicemu tries to be accurate.

Swish
04-12-2013, 12:57 PM
Velious release here could be the death of that server, in all honesty... it'll become a refuge for people from EQmac and here who want to 2-box.

Worse still, the grouping bonus over there means you're penalised for trying to play solo...so by NOT boxing you're losing unless you can find a group. Should it be that way?

Innovative
04-12-2013, 02:16 PM
If epicemu or whatever it's is anything like Project EQ then ti's doubtful that its loot/mob database is anything like velious was when it was live. IMHO, the fact that project1999 goes out of its way to be accurate adds legitimacy and endurance to the experience. It ensures that p1999 has a draw.

But I do think people will go to other emu servers for periods of time just to goof around and box. I do see them coming back sooner or later, since p1999 is the only way to get (accurate) classic eq.

I wanted to point this out because the database differences are rather hard not to notice.

I will rescind my statements if it turns out that epicemu tries to be accurate.

Until Classic EQ comes out which will top them all for being entirely recoded. From what I hear it's over 95% done and entering beta soon.

Swish
04-12-2013, 02:24 PM
Until Classic EQ comes out which will top them all for being entirely recoded. From what I hear it's over 95% done and entering beta soon.

Last I heard the skeletons now walk instead of slide along... good work Classic EQ. Looking forward to that in 2020.

Kieu
04-12-2013, 05:16 PM
Anyone that plays the sleeper at the moment is a sheer moron.

Stinkum
04-12-2013, 05:20 PM
Anyone that plays the sleeper at the moment is a sheer moron.

Calm down, kid. Your immersion levels are showing.

SamwiseRed
04-12-2013, 05:55 PM
so much sleeper hate, funny how another emu is getting your panties in a wad.

Nirgon
04-12-2013, 06:05 PM
XP is slow, but not due to the lack of mobs as much as a huge XP nerf. Not sure what they're trying to achieve, takes 2 letters to Kelethin to get 1% XP and wasps/bats are 1% per kill each at level 1. Not how I remember Velious! I think they know they've screwed up, the beta was allowing 4 blues for the bard mail quest so they changed something purposely.

Also, met some P99 forum folks over there :D

King of the Hill...


http://i.imgur.com/pzfDcKr.jpg

Did that duel broadcast to the whole server. Play say it is classic.

Razdeline
04-12-2013, 07:44 PM
Having tons of fun. Even if the xp stays the way it is I will stick with it due to challenge level. Its fun starting fresh with everyone around you again.

Kieu
04-12-2013, 10:08 PM
Sounds like total fun doing a 35 hell at level 1.

smokemon
04-12-2013, 10:11 PM
^^

Phats
04-13-2013, 12:04 AM
or you can be a druggy degenerate and complain about anything you come across

Innovative
04-13-2013, 12:38 AM
I'm getting over 1/2 blue for a dark blue solo kill at level 6 in BB at the moment.

Visual
04-13-2013, 06:33 AM
There is a reason many servers have risen and fell before the inception of p99.

To expect this new server to be polished before it's inevitable demise is naive.