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Nirgon
02-28-2013, 01:27 PM
Charmable up to 2004

A Raptor:
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=3948

FYI since I don't see it here and the mob info is wrong - Raptors are animals. They can be charmed, fear kited, etc.


A Vicious Raptor:
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=3958

These puppies are animals, and can be charmed, animal fear kited, etc. Good place to practice charming for druids.



Hope these help. Btw, bards can do great here also, beside the regular druid and wizard visitors (except we can't bind in zone), they provide easy exp and non-stop charm kiting if you are into it.



I seem to recall a patch note, MAYBE, saying druids weren't able to charm them for a period... but ... when I look? I can't find it.

Bamzal Sherbet
02-28-2013, 01:29 PM
u posting these in RAnts and Flames instead of bugs now, because you know u gonna get instantly flamed these days? lol :(

Nirgon
02-28-2013, 01:30 PM
No because I suspect this won't turn into bug discussion.

Andis
02-28-2013, 01:31 PM
just another confirmation of the corruption going on here.

when will it end?

how many more nihilum must I slay?!?!

Nirgon
02-28-2013, 01:31 PM
They can be charmed, fear kited, etc

^ Note the animal comment and fear kited comment... fear animal... hint hint.

Things I post are routinely spun by idiots, so worth mentioning... pixel gain over classic EQ, right?

Lemons
02-28-2013, 02:32 PM
got deez nihi scumbags on the ropes, incoming hotfixes and "classic" adds. l00000000l

Nirgon
02-28-2013, 02:41 PM
I was just hoping with Sirken in charge, we could move past all of this... nope.

Where's the enty in the rule book for banning players who... fuck it lol.

tehruoh
02-28-2013, 03:01 PM
It works on eqmac so it should work here

Nirgon
02-28-2013, 03:12 PM
No evidence ever posted... and tried to sneak out the xp bonus cuz the big scary pvpers were starting to come back.

Turn it all the way off and keep it that way. These classic colors don't run from a little xping every night.

Rettii
02-28-2013, 03:16 PM
arzak is a stupid dumb fagat and is making everything nilbog works so hard for questionable

fire this piece of shit off staff for server integrity plz

mizin
02-28-2013, 03:18 PM
I like the part where sundawgs post about changing the mage pet was deleted.. along with people questioning if he had the power to do it and the threads questioning it too this morning. Shits corrupt as fuck around here and I ain't even level 60.

Nirgon
02-28-2013, 03:28 PM
If it's really deleted, Nilbog's faction could not get any higher with me and still did.

I really like the guy and hope he wins the lottery so he has more time or just wants to have more time.

Goes for Sirken too.

XP or no XP, classic or less than classic, some people around here make dishonesty and cheating the order of the day. To think that getting away with exploiting was a strong recruitment tool here for months.

Raptor change needs to be backed out, Arzak character banned too. Sounds fair to me.

Chardok faction change is fine with me, just the timing of it going in with the unannounced xp bonus removal and raptor change... Jesus, can you be any more obvious.

heartbrand
02-28-2013, 03:34 PM
- The EverQuest Team

.................................................. ...................

------------------------------
February 13, 2002 3:00 am
------------------------------
** Spell Related **

- Eye of Zomm and Eye of Tallon are now non-KoS in a fashion similar to
familiars
- Koadic's Endless Intellect stacking has been fixed. If a player has
Koadic's Endless Intellect on them and anyone casts Breeze, Clarity,
Clarity 2, Boon of the Clear Mind, Gathering of the Mind, or Gift of
Pure Thought on them, it will fail and the Koadic's will remain.
- Mind Wrack gives mana instead of taking mana away
- Charm is immediately removed from charmed NPC's when the character
that charmed them casts invisibility
- Made some small improvements to Marzin's Mark
- Corrected some stacking issues with Nature's Recovery
- Blast of Frost scroll has been made available for Beastlords
- Self-only level 51+ spells will no longer fail to cast if the caster
has a lower level character targeted.
- Egress should once again force a 'zone' to clear aggro
- The damage component of Elnerick's Entombment of Ice no longer causes
the spell to have a chance at breaking its root component
- Snakes in Lavastorm and Paineel are now animals
- Hammerheads are now animals
- Treants in the Plane of Growth are now plants
- Timorous Deep gators, fish, and raptors are now animals

Handpartytowel
02-28-2013, 03:34 PM
anyone want to take bets on how long it takes after azrael gets some trak teeth for pulling all of VP to zone in to get nerfed?

Nirgon
02-28-2013, 03:35 PM
- Charm is immediately removed from charmed NPC's when the character
that charmed them casts invisibility


^ hmm?

All those PoP stuff that had to be fixed around PoP era with spell changes etc.

Andis
02-28-2013, 03:36 PM
im gonna go with

same day

Nirgon
02-28-2013, 03:37 PM
I don't go out of my way to just make up crazy things out of no where like some people wished you would believe.

You used to be right behind me when I called shit out HB, oh how the pixels have warped you. To think people are actually here to play classic EQ is often beyond me.

heartbrand
02-28-2013, 03:38 PM
No idea what you're talking about, I found a patch note with relative ease that confirms raptors not animals till post luclin, what's issue again

Nirgon
02-28-2013, 03:39 PM
"Egress should once again force a 'zone' to clear aggro"

Let's go ahead and break egress and abscond now. That PoP era stuff needs to be very, very carefully considered. Or even better, someone who actually played classic EQ should be the judge.

I will definitely admit here that I remember something about raptors not being considered animals for a while. But I can't find anything about it, much like evidence for players in elemental and skeleton illusions being kos to NPCs in classic... but I KNOW it was true :P.

heartbrand
02-28-2013, 03:44 PM
Dunno patch notes seems to be evidence

Aprisle
02-28-2013, 04:02 PM
Charmable up to 2004

A Raptor:
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=3948


A Vicious Raptor:
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=3958





I seem to recall a patch note, MAYBE, saying druids weren't able to charm them for a period... but ... when I look? I can't find it.

this.

heartbrand
02-28-2013, 04:03 PM
RE:
QuoteReply
# Jun 07 2001 at 6:02 AM Rating: Decent
Koneko
4 posts
The raptors in WL are considered animals the ones in TD are not. No mad solo xp for rangers from these guys =(
Makes no sense to me why the ones in WL would be considered animals and these not.

heartbrand
02-28-2013, 04:04 PM
RE: They ARE animals
QuoteReply
# Mar 11 2002 at 12:43 AM Rating: Good
rhavenn the Sly
Scholar
42 posts
Actually they were just changed to be flagged "animal" in a patch Feb 2002. So up until this point animal only spells didn't work on them.

Nirgon
02-28-2013, 04:05 PM
What I DO have is recent raid kills by Azrael in Chardok and TD... the same patch without posted evidence at the time of making the change goes in very shortly after.

Not to mention I post things like lure of lightning 680 damage instead of 640 which has evidence and is a 2 second fix that doesn't get touched?

Lol.

heartbrand
02-28-2013, 04:08 PM
Wait, so I just posted a bunch of proof that raptors correctly flagged as non animals and you got nothing to say? Cool story

Nirgon
02-28-2013, 04:28 PM
Like I said, I recall for a period a druid could not charm them. I also found a comment that Glamour would not work from druids to debuff them, raptor issue conceded, but the entire point of all this is gladly being missed.

I bring up something like making 255 the resist cap, actually post evidence and something like this gets hotfixed in without any posting on the boards. So, I have make a bug post but other people don't have to find 100 examples of undeniable proof against all the bluebie ez-mode cravers? I have to defend invis pulling from 10 other people doing everything in their power to keep an exploit in the game but Nizzar who can just ask the dev in his guild?

Well, again, maybe if Nizzar or Diplo ask him to do it, he will do it...or tell you what, just show me a raid strat for killing Venril during Kunark that says either rune the tank or get 400ish magic resist. Doesn't exist.

Here's some easy logic for 255 max resist btw.

If (if statement is a complex coding concept) resist is over 255 when making checks ? Resist = 255 for making the check. Done, he could patch it in but he won't because it makes the content classic and it can't be gimped down.

Now consider this mage pet change we had to get pulled. Thank god we finally have someone stepping in and drawing a line but consider things a little further regarding what changes are made, what exists here and why.

What was Nilbog's policy regarding egg shaped pumices from vendors again? It was "stupid" to have them in? Raptors uncharmable seems to be in line with this, difference is, Azrael isn't benefitting from non-classic pumices to kill raid content.

One way of going about it?
Put in egg shaped and uncharmable raptors of course. Put in item recharging too sure. But as Nilbog said, no, because its stupid to have them. I want full classic, but not "pick and choose" classic.

Where's the consistency? Fair process for filing a bug report? Why is their favoritism shown towards getting issues patched in by a dev who is guilded against competition here? Especially stealth removing xp, changing Chardok faction and now this with the raptors after Azrael killed it? There's your problem, priority is decided by players and a great sense of urgency is given to changes that benefit the other team. He should have to deal with the same amount of bs I have to when addressing classic changes, have fun with the enormous bluebie druid community btw.

Another thing. He is supposed to be a faction dev, all of a sudden Nihilum wants things, and he's changing whatever he wants.

We had corruption issues here before, and rather than it being investigated and handled quietly, we finally got fet and quit, then posted it where it couldn't be deleted on FoH to get "it" (the problem) removed from the staff/foh blocked here. To try and obfuscate what's going on or address it otherwise is comical yet dismaying, just please put an end to it.

I'm sure this isn't your favorite thing to read because its negative or you make take it personally, but welcome to an issue threatening box integrity. I'd love to go back in time and ensure HPT (who noticed it) and I didn't tell Azrael that Faydedar was up, it would be EXCELLENT proof that the raptors would still be unchanged.

Nirgon
02-28-2013, 04:31 PM
Wait, so I just posted a bunch of proof that raptors correctly flagged as non animals and you got nothing to say? Cool story

No, I had something to say agreeing with the change made. I'm a lil busy and that took me a minute to type up.

Nirgon
02-28-2013, 04:33 PM
nothing to say

At almost exactly that time? No. But someone else who isn't "Nirgon the mad", did:

I don't see how you guys an play on this server with the corruption. Slow exp, sure, but all this other shit?

Here's what people think right now. Not everyone makes a (or 5, Heartbrand) quitting post when they leave.

heartbrand
02-28-2013, 04:38 PM
lol @ your fall back being year old quitting post from when server had 50 people and not even a B guild at the time. just play the game and enjoy it, all bug fixes go through nilbog meaning he approved every single one. even in your worst case tin foil hat scenario of selective bug fixes which I disagree with, they are all classic and correct.

Nirgon
02-28-2013, 04:42 PM
[QUOTE=heartbrand;867678]lol @ your fall back being year old quitting post from when server had 50 people QUOTE]

If we keep having selfish things that are in your favor patched (some stealthd) in, we'll be right back to it.

heartbrand
02-28-2013, 04:47 PM
Chardok faction hurt us as well, we had to sit in nurga for 16 hours farming faction for our pullers. QQ more?

Nirgon
02-28-2013, 04:49 PM
Farming faction before patch day to gain an advantage. No one is going to say that 16 hours of grinding isn't something you're happy to do for an advantage.


You think that these 3 specific changes, along with stealth removing the xp bonus... isn't awfully coincidental? Consider that there's no bug report post for raptors, or Chardok faction and then that Azrael was doing them that week.

So you're saying none of this is realted? People reading this aren't that stupid.

mizin
02-28-2013, 04:50 PM
lol @ your fall back being year old quitting post from when server had 50 people and not even a B guild at the time. just play the game and enjoy it, all bug fixes go through nilbog meaning he approved every single one. even in your worst case tin foil hat scenario of selective bug fixes which I disagree with, they are all classic and correct.

The problem is apparently the bug isn't considered important enough to fix until another guild starts to benefit from it. If you're to stupid to realize what he's trying to say feel free to continue playing dumb. Its blatantly obvious.

Nirgon
02-28-2013, 04:52 PM
You know, he really thinks he is being clever or defending any of this. That is how much of a miserable excuse for a human-being he really is. Some of us really want a classic eq server, or even a server that isn't rife with corruption.

heartbrand
02-28-2013, 04:54 PM
Farming faction before patch day to gain an advantage. No one is going to say that 16 hours of grinding isn't something you're happy to do for an advantage.


You think that these 3 specific changes, along with stealth removing the xp bonus... isn't awfully coincidental? Consider that there's no bug report post for raptors, or Chardok faction and then that Azrael was doing them that week.

So you're saying none of this is realted? People reading this aren't that stupid.

We farmed faction way before that, it's easy to make arguments when you're using lies and inaccurate statements as your premises.

Nirgon
02-28-2013, 05:04 PM
Except they were 3 exact things Azrael and ... oh.. and you didn't get Faydedar that week. Funny thing, that, all of them being patched in so quickly after it too.

Dullah
02-28-2013, 05:06 PM
http://tucsoncitizen.com/hispanic-politico/files/2012/05/tin_foil_hat.gif

heartbrand
02-28-2013, 05:08 PM
We kill faydadar as he spawns, one week we left him up, I'm sure that's why Azrael hasn't gotten any kills (charm fix) and not because they don't PVP for it

Nizzarr
02-28-2013, 05:08 PM
- The EverQuest Team

.................................................. ...................

------------------------------
February 13, 2002 3:00 am
------------------------------
** Spell Related **

- Eye of Zomm and Eye of Tallon are now non-KoS in a fashion similar to
familiars
- Koadic's Endless Intellect stacking has been fixed. If a player has
Koadic's Endless Intellect on them and anyone casts Breeze, Clarity,
Clarity 2, Boon of the Clear Mind, Gathering of the Mind, or Gift of
Pure Thought on them, it will fail and the Koadic's will remain.
- Mind Wrack gives mana instead of taking mana away
- Charm is immediately removed from charmed NPC's when the character
that charmed them casts invisibility
- Made some small improvements to Marzin's Mark
- Corrected some stacking issues with Nature's Recovery
- Blast of Frost scroll has been made available for Beastlords
- Self-only level 51+ spells will no longer fail to cast if the caster
has a lower level character targeted.
- Egress should once again force a 'zone' to clear aggro
- The damage component of Elnerick's Entombment of Ice no longer causes
the spell to have a chance at breaking its root component
- Snakes in Lavastorm and Paineel are now animals
- Hammerheads are now animals
- Treants in the Plane of Growth are now plants
- Timorous Deep gators, fish, and raptors are now animals

Ya'll a bunch of faggots

Nizzarr
02-28-2013, 05:09 PM
Nirgon owned by easy to get patch notes, loving it

Nirgon
02-28-2013, 05:09 PM
Where's the bug report? :/

Azrael: Chardok + Fay
Sundawg: 2 fixes (no bug post)

Recently...
Sundawg: mage pet changes (no evidence posted).



Back at you.

Nizzarr
02-28-2013, 05:10 PM
ITT: Sundawg doing god's work

Rettii
02-28-2013, 05:10 PM
- The EverQuest Team

.................................................. ...................

------------------------------
February 13, 2002 3:00 am
------------------------------
** Spell Related **

- Eye of Zomm and Eye of Tallon are now non-KoS in a fashion similar to
familiars
- Koadic's Endless Intellect stacking has been fixed. If a player has
Koadic's Endless Intellect on them and anyone casts Breeze, Clarity,
Clarity 2, Boon of the Clear Mind, Gathering of the Mind, or Gift of
Pure Thought on them, it will fail and the Koadic's will remain.
- Mind Wrack gives mana instead of taking mana away
- Charm is immediately removed from charmed NPC's when the character
that charmed them casts invisibility
- Made some small improvements to Marzin's Mark
- Corrected some stacking issues with Nature's Recovery
- Blast of Frost scroll has been made available for Beastlords
- Self-only level 51+ spells will no longer fail to cast if the caster
has a lower level character targeted.
- Egress should once again force a 'zone' to clear aggro
- The damage component of Elnerick's Entombment of Ice no longer causes
the spell to have a chance at breaking its root component
- Snakes in Lavastorm and Paineel are now animals
- Hammerheads are now animals
- Treants in the Plane of Growth are now plants
- Timorous Deep gators, fish, and raptors are now animals


Nizzar and Sundawg are faggots by selectively choosing things out of SAME PATCH

Nirgon
02-28-2013, 05:11 PM
I never said this wasn't true. I'm saying he didn't give any proof of his own before making the change, I'm also pointing out how convenient the timing is.

Why did Sundawg's bug post get deleted today? Oh. Let me guess. "Bug post? I don't see any bug post with fixed pending update? Fin foil alert!"

Dullah
02-28-2013, 05:11 PM
We farmed faction way before that, it's easy to make arguments when you're using lies and inaccurate statements as your premises.

One of our enchanters faction was so high, it was still apprehensive even after the patch. I'm sure somehow he was in cahoots with nilbog and co because they didn't want to inconvenience him by having him spend 5 minutes running all the way out to droga.

Nizzarr
02-28-2013, 05:11 PM
bug report is in the developer forums -- I dont think you have access to that.

You could if you applied to become a developer. They need the help. You too can get shit on by other players with no staff protections.

heartbrand
02-28-2013, 05:13 PM
Where's the bug report? :/

Azrael: Chardok + Fay
Sundawg: 2 fixes (no bug post)

Recently...
Sundawg: mage pet changes (no evidence posted).



Back at you.

Simply put... disparaging positive classic eq development will make you kos to me. It's hard enough to make enough time to develop and have an 80 hour a week job. If there is someone making positive contributions to the server, of which are then validated and approved by me, then that contributor is not to be fucked with in a developmental aspect.

All of Sundawg's development changes have been needed and classic. Not only does he provide independent research, he also is able to implement the changes.

Aside from the above, you may reference the Rogean thread to which you're referring. If bashing developer work is all you've got, try harder. It's against the spirit of volunteer work.

Rettii
02-28-2013, 05:14 PM
- The EverQuest Team

.................................................. ...................

------------------------------
February 13, 2002 3:00 am
------------------------------
** Spell Related **

- Eye of Zomm and Eye of Tallon are now non-KoS in a fashion similar to
familiars
- Koadic's Endless Intellect stacking has been fixed. If a player has
Koadic's Endless Intellect on them and anyone casts Breeze, Clarity,
Clarity 2, Boon of the Clear Mind, Gathering of the Mind, or Gift of
Pure Thought on them, it will fail and the Koadic's will remain.
- Mind Wrack gives mana instead of taking mana away
- Charm is immediately removed from charmed NPC's when the character
that charmed them casts invisibility
- Made some small improvements to Marzin's Mark
- Corrected some stacking issues with Nature's Recovery
- Blast of Frost scroll has been made available for Beastlords
- Self-only level 51+ spells will no longer fail to cast if the caster
has a lower level character targeted.
- Egress should once again force a 'zone' to clear aggro
- The damage component of Elnerick's Entombment of Ice no longer causes
the spell to have a chance at breaking its root component
- Snakes in Lavastorm and Paineel are now animals
- Hammerheads are now animals-
- Treants in the Plane of Growth are now plants
- Timorous Deep gators, fish, and raptors are now animals

dont remember snakes and hammerheads getting nerfed? is it because only raptors prevented people from getting exp/killing a dragon?

Nirgon
02-28-2013, 05:14 PM
Let's just all forget Arzak telling me that you gave him access to a character privately to confirm it.

Not only will he go out of his way to log on an EQ mac someone else here would offer him, there's many quick fixes in the bugs section with evidence that are ignored.

Again, the pick and choose.

Please, next defend the mage epic quick fix and the post that got removed. Where's the evidence saying anything about it? "Fixed pending update" -- are you fucking kidding lol?

They aren't accepting developers. Vile and others offered. Now what?

heartbrand
02-28-2013, 05:15 PM
Simply put... disparaging positive classic eq development will make you kos to me. It's hard enough to make enough time to develop and have an 80 hour a week job. If there is someone making positive contributions to the server, of which are then validated and approved by me, then that contributor is not to be fucked with in a developmental aspect.

All of Sundawg's development changes have been needed and classic. Not only does he provide independent research, he also is able to implement the changes.

Aside from the above, you may reference the Rogean thread to which you're referring. If bashing developer work is all you've got, try harder. It's against the spirit of volunteer work.

Nirgon
02-28-2013, 05:15 PM
What's a bug report Lol? What's a tin foil hat? Who's Arzak?

Nizzarr
02-28-2013, 05:16 PM
ITT: Nirgon whining about developers making things classic

Nirgon
02-28-2013, 05:16 PM
Apparently a classic change by Sundawg recently "needed" to be deleted from the forum, Heartbrand.

Nizzarr
02-28-2013, 05:16 PM
Nirgon currently lost access to the bug forums. Confirmed

Nizzarr
02-28-2013, 05:18 PM
Nirgon can no longer make shit post about trakanon gating at 30%.

Nirgon comes from Rallos zek where raid guilds were killing trakanon in Luclin because thats all they could do.

Nirgon isnt a reference for classic everquest raiding.

Rettii
02-28-2013, 05:19 PM
i can also put that i worked 8 hours on a holiday that my entire business was closed on and my boss would still sign it, just because nilbog approves everything doesnt mean he catches everything

http://www.gifcrap.com/g2data/albums/Celebrities/Bruce%20Lee%20plays%20ping%20pong%20with%20nunchuc ks.gif

Nirgon
02-28-2013, 05:19 PM
I'm not complaining that the changes are classic. Have you seen my bug reports? I want classic more than anything.

I'm "complaining" about their timing and by who did it. I'm "complaining" evidence isn't posted. And the mage epic change wasn't in the developer forum, and wouldn't you know it? No evidence in that public forum entry either.

Funny how a character you privately offered him is involved in testing Chardok too. What a coincidence.

Dullah
02-28-2013, 05:19 PM
Nirgon can no longer make shit post about trakanon gating at 30%.

Nirgon comes from Rallos zek where raid guilds were killing trakanon in Luclin because thats all they could do.

Nirgon isnt a reference for classic everquest raiding.

Rettii
02-28-2013, 05:20 PM
Nirgon can no longer make shit post about trakanon gating at 30%.

Nirgon comes from Rallos zek where raid guilds were killing trakanon in Luclin because thats all they could do.

Nirgon isnt a reference for classic everquest raiding.

u said nirgon 5 times in a double post, u mad bruh

Nirgon
02-28-2013, 05:21 PM
So I had Manna Robe and epic in early Velious.... how?

Nirgon
02-28-2013, 05:21 PM
I never admit to anything, even when Rogean posts pictures of us exploiting Vox

Nirgon
02-28-2013, 05:28 PM
gating at 30%.


Ok so I quoted a post showing that Rhak for the shaman epic gates at 20. AKA he made the decision to gate after being past a certain threshhold to do so. There's even a mob from Veksar (not classic I know, don't need to say not classic!) stated that it can gate as early as 30%. This is a mechanic that didn't change bub.

Then you can lots of posts saying how much of a pain mob gate was (none mention percent of course)... if mob (these are trash mobs in sebilis mind you) gate was something they only attempted at 5% or less.. wouldn't it just be a non issue? I could have just casted one draught of fire and nothing would have ever gated.

Keep trying man. NPC gate isn't functioning correctly here, they should have a chance even multiple chances to go for it earlier.

HippoNipple
02-28-2013, 05:38 PM
lol @ your fall back being year old quitting post from when server had 50 people and not even a B guild at the time. just play the game and enjoy it, all bug fixes go through nilbog meaning he approved every single one. even in your worst case tin foil hat scenario of selective bug fixes which I disagree with, they are all classic and correct.

Why even argue back if after everything that was posted you refer to a small jab he took for entertainment purposes in parenthesis.

As for the Nilbog comment it wasn't argued that changes weren't classic. It is being argued that only changes are being made to be classic that benefit the only guide on the server with a character. The comment that it is classic doesn't even hold up anymore after all the changes that have been made that aren't classic.

The changes that have been made that aren't classic everyone agrees is a good idea and it has been agreed was an over site during classic (most likely not intended). For instance exploits that lovely used or the various other exp corners that were cut.

This raptors deal is an example of something that was maybe classic but shouldn't have been in. It was changed later in the timeline because that is when it was caught on live. The excuse to change it here is that it is "classic" but this server has been selective when sticking to the "classic" argument.


Many members your guild are linked to cheating and corruption on here or blue. Nihilum has had a track record of exploiting rooting back to day one. Every time it seems like an exploit is revealed it is after Nihilum has used it or shortly after a competing guild starts using it.

TWDL_Prexus
02-28-2013, 05:39 PM
Not reading 7 pages of this, however I could not find any information whatsoever on druids charming raptors pre 2002/2003. Everything has them as a quad kite location.

heartbrand
02-28-2013, 05:42 PM
Why even argue back if after everything that was posted you refer to a small jab he took for entertainment purposes in parenthesis.

As for the Nilbog comment it wasn't argued that changes weren't classic. It is being argued that only changes are being made to be classic that benefit the only guide on the server with a character. The comment that it is classic doesn't even hold up anymore after all the changes that have been made that aren't classic.

The changes that have been made that aren't classic everyone agrees is a good idea and it has been agreed was an over site during classic (most likely not intended). For instance exploits that lovely used or the various other exp corners that were cut.

This raptors deal is an example of something that was maybe classic but shouldn't have been in. It was changed later in the timeline because that is when it was caught on live. The excuse to change it here is that it is "classic" but this server has been selective when sticking to the "classic" argument.


Many members your guild are linked to cheating and corruption on here or blue. Nihilum has had a track record of exploiting rooting back to day one. Every time it seems like an exploit is revealed it is after Nihilum has used it or shortly after a competing guild starts using it.



Actually, this server with the exception of one or two things outside of nilbog's control such as exp loss and pvp resists is as close to classic as possible see: compass removal.

Nizzarr
02-28-2013, 05:44 PM
Why even argue back if after everything that was posted you refer to a small jab he took for entertainment purposes in parenthesis.

As for the Nilbog comment it wasn't argued that changes weren't classic. It is being argued that only changes are being made to be classic that benefit the only guide on the server with a character. The comment that it is classic doesn't even hold up anymore after all the changes that have been made that aren't classic.

The changes that have been made that aren't classic everyone agrees is a good idea and it has been agreed was an over site during classic (most likely not intended). For instance exploits that lovely used or the various other exp corners that were cut.

This raptors deal is an example of something that was maybe classic but shouldn't have been in. It was changed later in the timeline because that is when it was caught on live. The excuse to change it here is that it is "classic" but this server has been selective when sticking to the "classic" argument.


Many members your guild are linked to cheating and corruption on here or blue. Nihilum has had a track record of exploiting rooting back to day one. Every time it seems like an exploit is revealed it is after Nihilum has used it or shortly after a competing guild starts using it.

hows the cool aid? must taste like piss at this point

heartbrand
02-28-2013, 05:45 PM
Must suck to take to the forums to pvp rather than in game and actually, I dunno, show up and contest shit.

heartbrand
02-28-2013, 05:46 PM
p.s. we contested in holocaust / star wars time / founding fathers with far fewer numbers, including quite a few kamikaze fear runs

Rettii
02-28-2013, 05:46 PM
Must suck to take to the forums to pvp rather than in game and actually, I dunno, show up and contest shit.

LOL have u seen the many threads laughing at ur pvp abilities in game?

HippoNipple
02-28-2013, 05:47 PM
hows the cool aid? must taste like piss at this point

Well several accusations were made by several different people. Great post bout piss and cool aid.

tehruoh
02-28-2013, 05:50 PM
We should all take a step back and reevaluate our lives/priorities.

Nizzarr
02-28-2013, 05:51 PM
Trolls arent people

HippoNipple
02-28-2013, 05:52 PM
p.s. we contested in holocaust / star wars time / founding fathers with far fewer numbers, including quite a few kamikaze fear runs

What raid targets did you take down with the guild you ran to compete with Nihilum? You make a better follower than a leader, which is why you have followed suit and completely changed your vision. Your leader talks about others drinking the cool aid, shit.

heartbrand
02-28-2013, 05:56 PM
You don't have to get the target to have fun, and p.s. you can't win if you don't try. How many targets will you get if you don't show up?

Smedy
02-28-2013, 06:00 PM
I like the part where sundawgs post about changing the mage pet was deleted.. along with people questioning if he had the power to do it and the threads questioning it too this morning. Shits corrupt as fuck around here and I ain't even level 60.

not gettting involved anymore in this can o worms but can confirm i saw the threats and participated in them this morning.

Smedy
02-28-2013, 06:01 PM
* threats = threads

obviously

Supreme
02-28-2013, 06:02 PM
I am guessing after Azrael starts killing Trakanon the instant click effect will be removed.

And they will cry on the forums about how the change was made because they killed Trakanon.



Well at least they are safe in posky...

Handpartytowel
02-28-2013, 06:14 PM
bug report is in the developer forums -- I dont think you have access to that.

You could if you applied to become a developer. They need the help. You too can get shit on by other players with no staff protections.

i applied to be a developer a few weeks ago. i have no interest in gm powers, and would be willing to suspend my character while acting as a dev (as should be mandated to avoid conflicts of interest).

app has 12 views but i have not received any response.

if you want to use your ins with the staff to assist them in contacting me nizzar, i would be willing to forgo my allegiance to the mighty 2 person guild <arizona iced tea>, and spend my efforts instead on improving the server.

Nirgon
02-28-2013, 06:19 PM
He's trying to convince us we didn't see it... lol.

Zade
02-28-2013, 06:20 PM
I saw the title of this post and got all essited that there would be discussion of the ancient dinosaur. who cares about tim deep. lets talk about real raptors.

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Zade
02-28-2013, 06:23 PM
failed.

HippoNipple
02-28-2013, 06:24 PM
I saw the title of this post and got all essited that there would be discussion of the ancient dinosaur. who cares about tim deep. lets talk about real raptors.

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Attempt to lighten the mood and gain acceptance with the community. FAIL.

Zade
02-28-2013, 06:29 PM
Attempt to lighten the mood and gain acceptance with the community. FAIL.

Not really. Read the first post and saw it was some QQ, so immediately skipped to the end to post my discontent <3

Nirgon
02-28-2013, 06:30 PM
You keep your non-classic weapons and broken embedding outta here (doesn't work on red forums)

Rettii
02-28-2013, 06:42 PM
lol Zade

Supreme
02-28-2013, 06:47 PM
I figured it out...

Zade is Zarah!

Hi Zarah!=)

Yagebasto
03-01-2013, 01:49 AM
- Charm is immediately removed from charmed NPC's when the character
that charmed them casts invisibility


^ hmm?

All those PoP stuff that had to be fixed around PoP era with spell changes etc.

its the time you cast rather than the time the spell lands...

Yagebasto
03-01-2013, 02:09 AM
finally finished reading this whine fest. Whats with all the mad about raptors?...Does your guild only consist of druids and not enchanters? Last I checked, chanters can charm damn near anything.

The worst part of the patch was probably the change to trakanon/shadoo+PR... Nihilum killed it, changes were made, then continued to kill it (and they don't cry on the forums about the patch making it more difficult).

Finally, I'm pretty sure the changes on raptors/trak were both blue/red. Its safe to say the entire P99 community does not revolve around your paranoid as shit guild.

Carry on with whining/tin foil hattery!

Avon Barksdale
03-01-2013, 02:40 AM
Let's just all forget Arzak telling me that you gave him access to a character privately to confirm it.

Not only will he go out of his way to log on an EQ mac someone else here would offer him, there's many quick fixes in the bugs section with evidence that are ignored.

Again, the pick and choose.

Please, next defend the mage epic quick fix and the post that got removed. Where's the evidence saying anything about it? "Fixed pending update" -- are you fucking kidding lol?

They aren't accepting developers. Vile and others offered. Now what?

EQMac is nice. If you can get over not having PvP, and having the post-Velious content, there's no bias or even really player drama at all to be found anywhere. The server even feels more classic (read: difficult). I expected to stroll in and own shit (yes, I'm talking about PvE content) like I did on these servers and I actually have trouble breaking and maintaining camps that require breaking and maintaining, which in turn encourages me to find groups, play better, and feel more rewarded when I do finally break and hold some shit down.